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#1 rallygirl

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Posted 18 July 2003 - 13:15

heres a good one....cars in movies

I really loved Vanishing Point and Christine (showing my Mopar side here) :love:

There was a pretty cool movie made in the early 1980s called Freedom about a young guy who steals a Porshe and heads off across South Australia. Theres a black Dodge Phoenix in it as well.

Years ago I watched a movie (maby early 70s flick) about a black car which followed a guy around trying to kill him (It wasn't THE CAR) anyone know it?

Another movie was The Man From Hong Kong which has a cool car chase in which involves a Valiant Charger, Torana and a Falcon down a mountain somewhere in NSW.

Whats everyone elses fav?

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#2 Richard Neale

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Posted 18 July 2003 - 14:20

American Graffitti takes a lot of beating for early 60's nostalgia ~ Cars & Music !!! :love:

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Posted 19 July 2003 - 23:42

Hi Rallygirl,

Was it "The Wraith" (with Charlie Sheen, Clint Howard, John Cassevetes' son, and others) ?

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Posted 20 July 2003 - 01:00

Originally posted by rallygirl
heres a good one....cars in movies
Years ago I watched a movie (maby early 70s flick) about a black car which followed a guy around trying to kill him (It wasn't THE CAR) anyone know it?


Whats everyone elses fav?


That'll be "Duel" then - Spielberg's first feature. Bloody big black truck....


Favourite car (and truck in some cases!) flicks:

Le Mans - need I say more?
Vanishing Point - splendidly nihilistic road movie with a superb soundtrack
Grand Prix - terrible soap opera. Gorgeous cinematography.
Thunder Road - plenty of handbrake turns to avoid the revenooers - and Mitchum SINGS! :)
Red Line 7000 (no plot to speak of but great 60s NASCAR action)
The Italian Job - of course!
any of the Sweeney movies... plenty of blags, slags and cars
Duel - see above.
The Cars That Ate Paris - bizarre!
Mad Max (only the first one) - had a low-budget charm that the sequels lacked
Death Race 2000 - if only 'cos it's daft.
American Grafitti - plenty of detail
Two-Lane Blacktop - another great road-movie
The Racers/Such Men Are Dangerous - contains some nicely-disguised Maserati-Plates as Buranos...
The Killers - splendidly nasty little thriller with some good early-60s sports car racing
Hell Drivers - nasty little British trucking movie from the 50s.
The Wages of Fear - a true classic - beautifully tense and dark
Winning - Newman got into racing during this movie, I think - slow film off-track but good on-track
Cannonball (aka Carquake, NOT "the Cannonball Run")
Checkpoint - gorgeous sports cars, terrible movie
The Green Helmet -- another with loads of stiff upper lip 50s sports-racers
Greased Lightning - Richard Pryor excellent as as Wendell Scott.
The Last American Hero - owes as much to Tom Wolfe as to reality ;)

#5 Ron Scoma

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Posted 20 July 2003 - 03:24

For chase scenes I have to say Ronin beats even Bullet or The French Connection .

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Posted 20 July 2003 - 03:33

Originally posted by rallygirl
heres a good one....cars in movies

I really loved Vanishing Point and Christine (showing my Mopar side here) :love:

There was a pretty cool movie made in the early 1980s called Freedom about a young guy who steals a Porshe and heads off across South Australia. Theres a black Dodge Phoenix in it as well.

Years ago I watched a movie (maby early 70s flick) about a black car which followed a guy around trying to kill him (It wasn't THE CAR) anyone know it?

Another movie was The Man From Hong Kong which has a cool car chase in which involves a Valiant Charger, Torana and a Falcon down a mountain somewhere in NSW.

Whats everyone elses fav?


I saw Freedom on SPEEDTV. That movie was very good. I would love to see it again.

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Posted 20 July 2003 - 08:16

for me the ultimate CAR movie has to be "repo man"....with one of the sheen boys...ingredients;
missing radioactive aliens-
top secret gov't agents in pursuit-
punks-
rival hispanic gangs-
more punks-
and the story is classic..boy meets girl,boy loses girl.boy gets girl back only to dump her for what else? the ultimate ride in a chevy nova.


" i love you! what about us,our future?"

" **** that...."


"they all have them you'll see....."

#8 Paul Newby

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Posted 20 July 2003 - 11:22

Hey rallygirl, I checked out your site. It seems that you are something of a Mopar fan. :)

In that vain, how about Australian '70s movie "The Man From Hong Kong starring George Lazenby. OK, its a crap film, but it has a certain 70s period charm and there is a reasonably impressive (for its time) car chase with a (Chrysler) Valiant Charger.

As for the good stuff, well I have a copy of Le Mans, but really you can't go past "Grand Prix" I saw it not so long ago, adn for its time it was surprising good, even the story is just about believable. I doubt they would be able to do a better job on the same subject today. :)

#9 rallygirl

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Posted 21 July 2003 - 01:08

Originally posted by Paul Newby
In that vain, how about Australian '70s movie "The Man From Hong Kong starring George Lazenby. OK, its a crap film, but it has a certain 70s period charm and there is a reasonably impressive (for its time) car chase with a (Chrysler) Valiant Charger.


lmao...i already said that one...i have it on tape :rotfl:

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Posted 21 July 2003 - 01:11

Originally posted by Don Ludewig
Hi Rallygirl,

Was it "The Wraith" (with Charlie Sheen, Clint Howard, John Cassevetes' son, and others) ?

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no..not Wraith (that was a Chrysler concept car wasn't it ;) )

and it wasn't duel.

I saw it a long time ago.

There is also a movie called Wheels of Terror which stars a Dodge Charger :clap:

#11 Paul Newby

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Posted 21 July 2003 - 07:12

Originally posted by rallygirl


lmao...i already said that one...i have it on tape :rotfl:


I just checked your original post. My apologies :blush:

On a similar vein but talking Australian TV and not films. There were plenty of '70s cop shows that had a variety of Valiants, but it was "Ryan" starring Rod Mullinar and a very young Pamela Stephenson that featured our "hero" driving a Charger. It had a great intro and the Charger was an integral feature. I think we're talking 1973 ... :)

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Posted 21 July 2003 - 07:23

does 'grease' qualify?? i think that the car sequence made it, (maybe it was olivia)
there was another with Charlie Sheen and a BMW that he stole and took a girl captive, they later fell in love of course. ive forgotten the name unfortunately but it was a late 80's BMW if that helps with the list.

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Posted 21 July 2003 - 21:01

Does anyone know the name of the film that starred Charlie Sheen as a Porsche 911 thief, and another guy ,whose name i can't remember, who played an undercover cop that infiltrates Sheen's stolen porsche parts operation.
Early-mid 80s movie. Good flick.

My favourite car/truck/road related movies:

Duel
Le Mans
Mad Max 1 and 2 (3, i'd rather forget)
Convoy (made me want to be a truck driver)
Dead Head Miles (obscure b-movie with a plot that makes little sense but is insanely funny starring Alan Arkin. The beautiful Peterbilt 359 is the star really)
The Speed Merchants
Hell Drivers (Anyone know where i can get a copy of this on video/dvd)
Bullit (that exhaust note, gotta love it)
Back to the Future (Delorean will be the first classic car i'll buy)
They Drive By Night (1940s early Trucking movie with Humphrey Bogart)
White Line Fever

Most of the others mentioned by petefenelon in his post above are in my favourites too.

Not a car movie but a documentary series by the BBC called "The Power and the Glory 100 years of motor racing" I'm surprised that i've hardly seen it mentioned on TNF. I would consider it as a must see for anyone who frequents this board. Its a two video box set that was first broadcast in 1990-1 on the BBC. Anyone seen it?

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Posted 21 July 2003 - 21:46

Originally posted by Paul Newby


I just checked your original post. My apologies :blush:

On a similar vein but talking Australian TV and not films. There were plenty of '70s cop shows that had a variety of Valiants, but it was "Ryan" starring Rod Mullinar and a very young Pamela Stephenson that featured our "hero" driving a Charger. It had a great intro and the Charger was an integral feature. I think we're talking 1973 ... :)



That's okay. It took me ages to find Freedom on tape. I ordered it off the internet and received a tattered copy which i now treasure.

There was another aussie car movie: Running on Empty (I wasn't keen on that one)

Oh and FJ?? about a gang of skegs back in the 1970s.

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Posted 28 July 2003 - 00:08

I can not believe I saw no mention of "Death Race 2000"!! That was a movie wel ahead of its time! :lol: Starring David Carradine as "Dr. Frankenstein", Sylvester Stallone :lol: and many other up and coming stars. Here , is the "low down" on it. Please have a look, it's very interesting.

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Posted 28 July 2003 - 01:18

Originally posted by wibblywobbly
I can not believe I saw no mention of "Death Race 2000"!! That was a movie wel ahead of its time! :lol: Starring David Carradine as "Dr. Frankenstein", Sylvester Stallone :lol: and many other up and coming stars. Here , is the "low down" on it. Please have a look, it's very interesting.


Mentioned it further up the thread....

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Posted 28 July 2003 - 05:22

Meant to reply to this a while ago.

Wasn't The Car the movie that starred James Brolin (of Marcus Welby, M.D. fame at that point -- now Barbara Streisand's husband? Could be wrong there.)

The Car being some sort of demonic/possessed black mid-1970s Caddie built by George Barris.

It wasn't a Speilberg movie, I don't think. Far too awful for Speilberg. His Duel (with the truck and Dennis Weaver) was, and still is, great.

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Posted 28 July 2003 - 07:53

Halicki's Gone in 60 seconds.....the original from 1974 of course.
Huge sideburns...tacky sunglasses....bright yellow and green colours everywhere...nothing more 70 ish than that one IMO...
and Eleanor.... :love:

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Posted 28 July 2003 - 08:34

Not a car movie but a documentary series by the BBC called "The Power and the Glory 100 years of motor racing" I'm surprised that i've hardly seen it mentioned on TNF. I would consider it as a must see for anyone who frequents this board. Its a two video box set that was first broadcast in 1990-1 on the BBC. Anyone seen it?



I've still got an ancient VHS copy of it taped from TV. There was some very good archive footage in there but the narration was a bit ponderous and pretentious. Ivan Rendall (the producer) did a pretty average book based on it, and a rather better one called "Chequered Flag" which apart from getting the 1966 F1 season rather wrong wasn't bad at all. He's also done a pretty good history of jet fighter combat ("Splash One").

Something the BBC have never repeated is The Team, a series about Marlboro-McLaren in '93. Anything containing Ron Dennis talking to his kids on the phone ("Hello big boy! Hello Charlierascal!") has to be a winner ;)

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Posted 28 July 2003 - 16:39

Here we go again...

The Gumball Rally is my favorite car-oriented movie after LeMans and Grand Prix. It puts most of the other b-movie tripe in this thread to shame ;)

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Posted 29 July 2003 - 02:09

I thought I'd mention "the young in heart" (late 1930's?), mostly for featuring the only existing Phantom Corsair; a.k.a "The flying wombat". :cool:

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Posted 29 July 2003 - 08:02

No ones Mentioned"Eat my Dust" stared Ron Howard.

Yep the original Gone in 60 seconds was great laugh loved it whent they did the TV ad and trashed the other companys cars.

The car in Duel was a red one wasnt it.

One for the us Kiwis to remember "Goodbye Pork Pie" Yellow mini Chase Film and "Battletruck" if you into Trucks

One for us Kiwis to forget Film "Shakers Run" its on telly here next week by the way starred Cliff Robertson and Leif Garret

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Posted 29 July 2003 - 08:18

Originally posted by Phillip
The car in Duel was a red one wasnt it.


No problem finding pictures of the truck, the car is a bit harder:

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Posted 30 July 2003 - 14:15

The Car (1977, 95 min.) was directed by Elliot Silverstein and starred James Brolin, Kathleen Lloyd, John Marley, Ronny Cox, John Rubinstein and R.G. Armstrong.

It has recently been re-issued on dvd in the US.
The car in it was pitchblack and was, I think, created especially for the film. As for the film itself, I thought it was kinda funny, but I'm affraid that it wasn't suppost to be...

For more info you can look at www.imdb.com

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Posted 30 July 2003 - 15:34

Tucker, featuring Jeff Bridges as Preston Tucker. The story of the car of that name. Soundtrack by Joe Jackson, if my memory serves me well.

Jeff Bridges fans may also recall Thunderbolt and Lightfoot, with a certain Mr C Eastwood. Some interesting American machinery played a supporting role. What was the car with the jacked up suspension and all the rabbits in the boot (sorry, trunk for all you Yankees)?

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Posted 30 July 2003 - 17:31

I think i like to see movies like
The Racers/Such Men Are Dangerous
released on DVD
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Posted 31 July 2003 - 02:32

A couple of films which impressed me a lot at a much earlier age:

"The Devil on Wheels" circa '46. I remember first seeing it on a 6" TV screen in '51. At 13, I thought it was pretty hot stuff: kids and hot rods (mostly stripped-down Model A's) tearing up the streets of California. A couple of years ago, I stayed up to watch it at 2 ayem. Couldn't believe how naive it was!

"The Devil's Hairpin" '57 starring Cornel Wilde in Hollywood's big-screen Technicolor version of what sportscar racing was supposed to be like. Again: top-notch then, pretty pathetic now. My favorite line came late in the film when CW was trying to come from behind to win the Big Race. He's passing folks left and right when the trackside announcer screams into the microphone: "He's not even slowing down for the Devil's Hairpin!!" CW somehow manages to negotiate the DH -- without even slowing down! -- and of course wins the Big Race and the girl.

A few years later, I was doing the same thing, but oddly enough found I always had to slow down to negotiate hairpins. Maybe I was doing something wrong...

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Posted 31 July 2003 - 03:27

Much of The Devil's Hairpin track action was filmed at Paramount Ranch. At a Fabulous Fifties gathering there last October, several of the men who drove the competitors' cars were present, and told of their adventures during the movie-making.

Art Evans, whose XK120 was featured prominently, described how they were instructed to make their half-speed antics look serious, including "sawing at the steering wheel," gritting their teeth, and other such histrionics. They all agreed that one of their number created and recreated on demand one spectacular spinout with such consummate skill they still can't figure out how it was done. I might eventually remember who the driver was.

Someone claimed to have found a stash of VHS copies of the movie, but I missed a chance to acquire one.

There are some wonderful photos of action at Paramount Ranch on http://www.tamsoldracecarsite.net/ and on the http://www.allongs.com Nostalgia pages.


I finally found a VHS copy of Road Racers, the "drive-in movie era" film referenced on
Pits 1. Kind of lame in the story and acting departments, but the racing action was fairly convincing. I almost believed the Willow Springs Turn 5-6 complex dumped into Riverside's Turn Nine. There may have been some Paramount Ranch footage, too, but I'd have to watch it again to verify that . . .


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Posted 31 July 2003 - 03:36

the movie 'Driven' :lol:

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Posted 31 July 2003 - 04:08

'Gumball Rally' should be mentioned in a thread about car flix. Silly plot (but an Oscar winner when compared to the Burt Reynolds 'Cannonball Run' rubbish), but cool cars & Raoul Julia too.

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Posted 31 July 2003 - 07:34

There's also that early 70's film with George C Scott ("Last Run" or "Final Run") as a getaway driver, hired to take a fugitive from Spain to France. He drives his splendid BMW 507 (great choice of a getaway car) and I love the scene where he opens the hood, listens to his engine's sound for a moment and then says to his passenger: "intake valve on the third cylinder".

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...and then there are Disney's VW Beetle films. The first in the series has some good race and simulated race sequences in US tracks in the early/mid 60's with all sorts of period cars...

#32 rallygirl

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Posted 31 July 2003 - 11:00

I'm not even going to ay what I thought of The fast & The Furious :down: I watched about 5 minutes and that was it!!!

The car in Duel was a Plymouth Valiant? :up:

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Posted 31 July 2003 - 11:03

Originally posted by bpratt
Meant to reply to this a while ago.

Wasn't The Car the movie that starred James Brolin (of Marcus Welby, M.D. fame at that point -- now Barbara Streisand's husband? Could be wrong there.)

The Car being some sort of demonic/possessed black mid-1970s Caddie built by George Barris.

It wasn't a Speilberg movie, I don't think. Far too awful for Speilberg. His Duel (with the truck and Dennis Weaver) was, and still is, great.


The car was a Lincoln which was modified for the show. I'm not sure who made it? James Brolin was most certainly the star :love:

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Posted 31 July 2003 - 12:27

Anyone remember a movie starring Glenn Ford as the chauffeur to a rich American family in France whose daughter (named Millie) wants to drive in the Monaco GP - Ford stymies her by removing the engine from her racing-car and leaving a note which says something like
"here lie the bones of Millie the Nut
who lost the race but saved her b*tt"
...............and then it turns out Ford is a past winner of the GP.

Any offers? There was some good car footage in it, IIRC.

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Posted 31 July 2003 - 13:14

I rather liked the early Aston Martin in Widows Peak...Driver wasn't bad either ;)
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#36 Ray Bell

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Posted 31 July 2003 - 22:08

Likewise the Nash Healey in Sabrina...

But we are old perves, are we not? And the emphasis is not on the 'old'!

#37 Don Ludewig

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Posted 02 August 2003 - 04:27

Originally posted by Macca
Anyone remember a movie starring Glenn Ford as the chauffeur to a rich American family in France whose daughter (named Millie) wants to drive in the Monaco GP - Ford stymies her by removing the engine from her racing-car and leaving a note which says something like
"here lie the bones of Millie the Nut
who lost the race but saved her b*tt"
...............and then it turns out Ford is a past winner of the GP.

Any offers? There was some good car footage in it, IIRC.


Think it was "Love Is A Ball", with Hope Lange as Millicent, from 1963. And yes, I seem to recall some good footage as well (at least I thought so at the time).

#38 Barry Lake

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Posted 09 September 2005 - 07:52

Originally posted by rallygirl
I'm not even going to say what I thought of The Fast & The Furious :down: I watched about 5 minutes and that was it!!!
:up:


While doing some shopping last night I spotted a boxed set of DVDs with "A Collection of 10 Classic Movies" for $Aus9.99. A dollar per movie. Even I could afford that! Especially as one of them was "The Fast and The Furious", one motor racing movie that I had never seen. I had to have it.

Storyline: Unbelievably bad, REALLY unbelievably bad!
Cast: Well below average.
Acting: Atrocious.
Driving: Pitiful.

It's the sort of thing a bunch of motor racing enthusiasts could sit and watch together after having had a few beers and laugh themselves silly.

However... there are some interesting cars. Jaguar XK120s are thick on the ground, that of the villain who turns out to be the hero having only an aero screen instead of the full windscreen, and knock-off wire wheels.

There also is an Austin-Healey 100/4, Nash-Healey, Jowett Jupiter, Triumph TR2 - all of which dice together all the way (???) in a race that appears to be from California to Mexico.

At one point, after two XK120s dice wheel to wheel and side by side for what seems like forever, one of them is delayed for a considerable time, then catches up again in minutes. That would be impressive, except it is overshadowed by the heroine, who gives both of them a 10 or 20 minutes start, borrows an Allard J2, and catches up - driving in a dress and without a helmet!

I didn't actually sit down and watch the movie, I was packing for a trip while it was on, so missed large lumps. But there was a Concours d'Elegance at what appears to be Pebble Beach - possibly filmed at the real event, or a fairly reasonable imitation thereof. Quite a few interesting cars to spot. There also is some real driving (though probably set up) of a whole bunch of cars not in the race to Mexico, around a tree-lined road circuit. There's even the odd Italian etceterini in there, C-type Jaguar (maybe two) etc. More good car spotting to be done in those scenes.

And where was Hans Etzrodt when I needed him? There also was a race for... I am trying to think of the term they used, they treated it as a joke, but there were 10 or 12 pre-WW I grand prix type cars that looked like the real deal.

What a shame you can't do fast forward, fast reverse, slow motion etc on DVDs. To hell with the plot, there would be hours of fun identifying cars in this movie.

I got more than $1 worth of value out of it already. It's in black and white, by the way, and the movie appears to have been copied from a copy from a... and the villain/hero's (actually the lady's) Jag is white, so it occasionally "disappears" into white backgrounds.

Now, to see if I get $1 value each out of "Carnival Story" (Anne Baxter); three Sherlock Holmes movies, "The Road to Bali", "Penny Serenade", Abbott and Costello do "Jack and the Beanstalk", Alfred Hitchcock's "Blackmail", and Edward G Robinson in "Scarlett Street".

My bet is they were/are all duds. But what do you expect for a dollar each?

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Posted 09 September 2005 - 08:49

Last night, after a few beers, I caught the wonderfully bad Hell on Wheels on Sky's Bad Movies Channel. It was a combination of propaganda movie (Remember - moonshine kills!) and star vehicle for Marty Robbins. Set in and around NASCAR racing, featuring Federal agents blowing up moonshine stills in the woods, some frankly execrable country music from Robbins and Connie Smith and no discernible plot.

Was this a conscious attempt by NASCAR to rid itself of the "booze-running" image? Robbins was a public face of NASCAR at the time, so presumably it must have had some sort of official sanction.

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Posted 09 September 2005 - 11:30

Also on UK TV last night was the Steve McQueen film "Junior Bonner", usually described as "Sam Peckinpah's elegy to the Old West". Although the background is rodeo, not motorsport, some of the parallels are uncanny to anyone who has competed in a championship around the country - the greetings from fellow competitors on arrival at a venue, the "see you at...", hitching and loading the trailer (a horsebox and horse, but just like a trailer and race car), the long cross country travel between events, meeting the event officials and the "signing on" desk etc. etc.

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Posted 10 September 2005 - 10:20

A "dollar store" in a local mall has a bunch of dvds in flat envelope-style packaging for $2.99 (Canadian). I found a couple car movies (well, one car, one motorcycle). The Choppers, a 1961 b&w film about a gang of kids who "chop" disabled vehicles on the lonesome highways around where they live for kicks and cash. A blurb on the cover describes it as "60s Punk Car Thieves Gone Wild!" Hot dang! I've only watched the first half hour. Describing it as bad is being generous to it.

The other is the bio pic Evel Knievel (1971) starring George Hamilton. It's still in the shrink-wrap. I see it also stars Vic Trayback and Dub Taylor (didn't he have the great line "what we have here is failure to communicate" in Cool Hand Luke?).

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Posted 10 September 2005 - 15:12

While channel hopping this morning I stumbled by chance on a scene in Casino Royale where Peter Sellers playing James Bond orders his chauffeur played by Stirling Moss to follow the criminal's car.

The old visual gag has Moss running off in the direction of the crooks leaving Sellers standing by his Lotus F3 (is it a 31), the signwriting on the side of the car is James Bond - Team Lotus.

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Posted 10 September 2005 - 15:23

Does anyone seen a movie/"documentary" called Turbo Time ? It was a long time ago and it was shown on late night TV, I remebered there were some real racing footage, including (Lauda's ?) F1 big crash and interviews with Winkelhock. I tried to find more info on the web, but I can only find this: http://www.sd455.com/moviett.htm

Does anybody have more information?



Talk about car movies, does Herbie counts?

Ronin by John Frankenheimer had very good car chases including an Audi S8 in sthe streets of France.

the BMW movies by various directors all feature the new beamers, all are very well made! :up:

And how about Taxi ? not the US version, but the original French version, real driving skills, good music track.



and some very very bad ones ,

Thunderbolt with Jacky Chan, about a mechanic went to Japan to race in the JTCC series, it's good to see the JTCC cars but the racing action was :down: it was done in low speed and then they put the film in double speed........ :mad: :down: :down:

The car that ate Paris by Peter Weir (the director of Master and Commander and got nominated for Oscar). The film was just plain terrible....... :mad:

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Posted 10 September 2005 - 18:45

How about "Driving Miss Daisy"? :rotfl:

Those Herbie films used to nark me something rotten - who ever heard of a Beetle overtaking a T70?

A serious question for the historians: what would be recognised / documented as the first ever feature film dedicated to "Grand Prix" racing? Were there any silent feature films (i.e. not just footage, but something resembling a film, with a "plot" of sorts") made relating to the days when drivers raced on non-pneumatic tyres and got flies in their teeth, i.e. the "Belle Epoque"?

When did the movie industry first embrace motor racing?

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#45 Frank S

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Posted 10 September 2005 - 20:34

Originally posted by bpratt
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The other is the bio pic Evel Knievel (1971) starring George Hamilton. It's still in the shrink-wrap. I see it also stars Vic Trayback and Dub Taylor (didn't he have the great line "what we have here is failure to communicate" in Cool Hand Luke?).

Bargain bins, you gotta love 'em.


The Hamilton/Knievel film has one of the most diturbing clips to be seen in any general-distribution film: Evel's actual crash at Cesar's Fountains. When he lands it's heels first, then the backs of his knees, while his upper legs and body are twenty degrees above horizontal. Within a few months of its opening I showed it on 16mm to a group of disadvantaged youths. We ran that part forward and back, slow-slow motion, way too many times.

The "failure" actor was Strother Martin IIRC. The "You're a good ol' boy, Luke" actor was George Kennedy. I once said the latter in passing to P.L. Newman, who rased his gaze, laughed, and nodded. In the paddock/garage area at Riverside. Picture somewhre.

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#46 Jim Thurman

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Posted 10 September 2005 - 21:07

Originally posted by Vitesse2
Last night, after a few beers, I caught the wonderfully bad Hell on Wheels on Sky's Bad Movies Channel. It was a combination of propaganda movie (Remember - moonshine kills!) and star vehicle for Marty Robbins. Set in and around NASCAR racing, featuring Federal agents blowing up moonshine stills in the woods, some frankly execrable country music from Robbins and Connie Smith and no discernible plot.

Was this a conscious attempt by NASCAR to rid itself of the "booze-running" image? Robbins was a public face of NASCAR at the time, so presumably it must have had some sort of official sanction.


Marty Robbins music execrable?...maybe country music isn't your thing, but check out "El Paso", "Big Iron", "Don't Worry" or "Singing The Blues" or several more obscure Robbins recordings. He did a wide range, though far better known for his "Western" songs.

Then again, I haven't heard the songs from "Hell on Wheels", which isn't likely A-list material...much along the lines of some of the wonderful songs from Elvis movies (that will probably get a response ;) )

I'm not sure of the exact year of the movie, but I don't think Robbins had done much with NASCAR other than short track racing at the Nashville Fairgrounds at the time of it's release, so I doubt NASCAR gave much sanction - though it's likely they liked the plotline.

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Posted 10 September 2005 - 21:24

Originally posted by bpratt
A "dollar store" in a local mall has a bunch of dvds in flat envelope-style packaging for $2.99 (Canadian). I found a couple car movies (well, one car, one motorcycle). The Choppers, a 1961 b&w film about a gang of kids who "chop" disabled vehicles on the lonesome highways around where they live for kicks and cash. A blurb on the cover describes it as "60s Punk Car Thieves Gone Wild!" Hot dang! I've only watched the first half hour. Describing it as bad is being generous to it.

The other is the bio pic Evel Knievel (1971) starring George Hamilton. It's still in the shrink-wrap. I see it also stars Vic Trayback and Dub Taylor (didn't he have the great line "what we have here is failure to communicate" in Cool Hand Luke?).

Bargain bins, you gotta love 'em.


"Choppers", starring Arch Hall Jr. - whose father did everything he could to make his son into another Ricky Nelson. I caught part of that on a late, late, late TV movie. Hilariously bad. Worthy of Mystery Science Theater 3000. Too bad they missed sending it up. "Choppers" also featured 1959 Playboy Playmate Marianne Gaba. And the opening narration where the "gang" is introduced...

Both "Evel Knievel" and "Viva Knievel" are classics. The former had a very tongue in cheek feel, the latter was unintentionally hilarious and well over the top.

Frank already mentioned it, but Strother Martin uttered the "failure to communicate" line. Martin played off of Newman very well. Outstanding in "Slap Shot" alongside Newman.

Yes, I love those bargain bins. I won't even get into how many films that wound up on Mystery Science Theater 3000 that I've run across in those bins. Must be at least a dozen. As well as several suitable for MST3K, like other Arch Hall Jr. features.

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Posted 10 September 2005 - 22:41

I'm not much of a country fan, admittedly, but by any standards the soundtrack to Hell on Wheels is bad. Most of Robbins' stuff was fairly ordinary country fare, but it went rather over the top when he started playing a ukelele .... :rolleyes:

Connie Smith, OTOH, was just plain awful.

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Posted 11 September 2005 - 04:58

Then there was "Johnny Dark" with a very young Tony Curtis and lots of speeded-up footage. Like all 50s racing movies, it showed no sign of knowing anything about road racing. But I still remember it, must have mad a big impression when I was about 12.

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Posted 11 September 2005 - 05:31

Originally posted by Terry Walker
Then there was "Johnny Dark" with a very young Tony Curtis and lots of speeded-up footage. Like all 50s racing movies, it showed no sign of knowing anything about road racing. But I still remember it, must have mad a big impression when I was about 12.

I've heard a few of the drivers tell their stories about filming at
Paramount Ranch. One of the instructions was to "look like" they
were involved in intense competition. That apparently involved
sawing the steering wheels and assuming exaggerated and
aggressive postures in the cockpits.

Art Evans mentioned an episode when Max Balchowski was
asked to do a dangerous high-speed spinout. The director was
satisfied with the first effort, but Max knew better, and insisted
on repeating it until he was happy with it. Who knows which
version showed up in the film... Art was driving an XK120.

I don't remember seeing it, and it doesn't seem to be available
on tape or disk. Someone had a stash of VHS copies, but I didn't
get there in time, and don't remember who it was.

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