Originally posted by .ru
1907 International Race Moscow – St. Petersburg
The race time of tourists category winner was 16h18', he was at the wheel of Darracq. Unfortunately I don't know his name.
Posted 14 April 2004 - 06:57
Originally posted by .ru
1907 International Race Moscow – St. Petersburg
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Posted 14 April 2004 - 13:45
According to Braunbecks Sport-Lexikon the Tourist Class was won by a driver called Schwarz in a Brasier in a time of 14 hours 2 minutes 50 seconds (45.978km/h). Oddly, this is faster than than Fokin, for whom 14h 18m (45.174km/h) is quoted. Just to round it off, it gives 9h 21m (74.730km/h) for Duray.Originally posted by Alexey Rogachev
The race time of tourists category winner was 16h18', he was at the wheel of Darracq. Unfortunately I don't know his name.
Posted 19 April 2004 - 10:21
Are you sure we mean the same race? I don't see Schwarz among these four entries...Originally posted by .ru
Tourists category (out of classification) – 4 entrants:
¹? F. Zhemlichka (RUS)
¹? Grachev (RUS)
¹? Leshchinsky (RUS)
¹? Schlicht (RUS)
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Posted 08 October 2014 - 21:34
As there will be first Russian Grand Prix this Sunday I prepared article about first motor race in Russia which took place in 1898.
http://racingchronic...for-cycling-en/ (only text)
http://racingstat.co...ety-for-cycling (only race results)
Sources used - this thread, book "Automoto passion in Russian Empire" about pre-1917 automobile and racing activities in Russia written by Melentiev and published in 2005, articles from Russian magazines - Automotosport from 1990, Za Rulyom (At the wheel) from 1968 and 1998, pre-1917 Kyiv magazine Sport and pre-1917 Russian magazine Automobile.
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Posted 09 October 2014 - 15:49
Biography of winner of 1898 race Petr Belyaev - http://racingchronic...elyaev-died-en/
Posted 22 February 2022 - 16:00
Well done, .ru!
I only concern spelling of some names.
Samuel Suurmets often appeared in contemporary reports as 'Surmets', but he is of Estonian ancestry and right spelling of his surname is Suurmets.
As to names of French entrants , I have found them only in Russian, but I suppose that right variants are:
Hippolyte-Auguste Deschamps (or Dechamps), not Dechan
Barbais, not Barbay.
I am not sure 'Mazy' or 'Mazi'; 'Merl' or 'Merle'
Maybe french-speaking experts will clarify what is right.
Spelling of German names - von Lode, Lidtke, Farich, and even Schneiderov with Russian 'ov' at the end is obvious.
John,
Troubetskoy is a branchy family of Russian noblemen, and I am quite sure that 1899 Troubetskoy and Prince Igor are from the same family but their exact relations are not known to me.
Genealogy of Troubetskoy family goes back to Gedeminovichi kin of Lithuanian Grand Dukes (XIII century).
Here you can trace the genealogy from Lithuanian Grand Dukes to Troubetskoy (but only in Russian): http://hronos.km.ru/...geanl_lt_1.html
Troubetskoy family coat of arms with description in Russian can be found here: http://library.tvers...oryane/0907.htm
Troubetskoy, Trubetskoy, Troubetskoi, Trubetskoi, Troubetzkoi all seem to turn up. Much later Igor Troubetzkoy was an early Ferrari customer after WW2?
RGDS RLT
Edited by Rupertlt1, 22 February 2022 - 16:03.
Posted 22 February 2022 - 19:03
Troubetskoy, Trubetskoy, Troubetskoi, Trubetskoi, Troubetzkoi all seem to turn up. Much later Igor Troubetzkoy was an early Ferrari customer after WW2?
RGDS RLT
Wikipedia gives the following spellings for the family: Trubetskoy (English), Трубецкие (Russian), Трубяцкі (Belarusian), Trubecki (Polish), Trubetsky (Ruthenian), Трубецький (Ukrainian), Troubetzkoy (French), Trubic (Croatian), Trubezkoi or Trubetzkoy (German). So it really depends on which language your original source was written in and whether or not it was translated/transliterated into something else.
There's an extensive genealogy here, but Igor doesn't seem to feature ...
https://www.geni.com...mes/troubetzkoy