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[Pikachu Racing]

He punched up Kurt Busch in the garage area after the race. Busch reportly got a bloody face when he went to the medical facility. The local police took statements from drivers about the incident. NASCAR officials talk to both of them in the trailer. Look like actions against Spencer coming up. Robby Gordon willing to pay the fine handed to Spencer.

What a bizarre twist. How about put these two in the boxing ring and let them fight it out?

[random]

Back in the day that sort of thing happened every other race.

He won't gain any fans by pressing charges for a pit-lane dust up. In fact, he'll likley lose fans and suffer boos and catcalls questioning his manhood.

He should just let Nascar handle the situation. They'd put Spencer on probation and send him to anger management classes. For what it's worth, Jayski's says Spencer was already on double-secret-probation for some incident last season.

[Bart]

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Originally posted by Pikachu Racing
Robby Gordon willing to pay the fine handed to Spencer.

Why?

NASCAR would be a lot better without these two a**holes.

[Pioneer]

I won't comment on assault charges or on what bit of bumping and shoving takes place on track, but Spencer purposely rammed Busch's car not once, but TWICE in the pitlane/garage area. In my mind that deserves at least a 3 race ban if not suspension for the rest of the season.

[aportinga]

Jimmy Spencer is a fat sow who only reflects poorly on NASCAR..... He just another hill billy left over from the good old days

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He won't gain any fans by pressing charges for a pit-lane dust up. In fact, he'll likley lose fans and suffer boos and catcalls questioning his manhood.

He should just let Nascar handle the situation. They'd put Spencer on probation and send him to anger management classes. For what it's worth, Jayski's says Spencer was already on double-secret-probation for some incident last season.

And the fact that fans will boo Bucsh or whomever decides to press charges against this fat ass doesn't reflect to well on NASCAR fans either.




Pah - let NASCAR handle it.... I'm sure they will

[mhferrari]

Well, I think both drivers should drive better. Remember at Indy when Busch started that incident, but went on to finish well. Its good to see new upcoming drivers better than Busch, I don't like him. I hope his brother Kyle, who is currently driving in ASA, will soon come to NASCAR and show up his older brother.

[Chris G.]

Right or wrong, Spencer fu**** himself with this move. I like this part from the wire:

"Both drivers left the track without comment. Busch, the left side of his face looking puffy, drove away in his own car. Spencer, smoking a fat cigar and looking straight ahead, was driven away by his wife, Pat."

[Newtsche]

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Originally posted by Bart

Why?

NASCAR would be a lot better without these two a**holes.

RG has always been a maximum turd but seems to have found a home with NASCAR. Go figure.

[Chris G.]

You know you are a redneck when ....

[Vilenova]

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You know you are a redneck when ....

c'mon man, Jimmy is just bigboned

[aportinga]

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c'mon man, Jimmy is just bigboned

That's fat boned babe

[random]

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Originally posted by Pioneer
but Spencer purposely rammed Busch's car not once, but TWICE in the pitlane/garage area. In my mind that deserves at least a 3 race ban if not suspension for the rest of the season.

Which looks to be precipitated by Busch looking for trouble, by parking his car right in front of Specer's garage area and blocking Spencer from going around him. Busch's team claimed Busch simply ran out of gas... right there, in front of Spencer's garage area while Spencer was driving right behind him... There's enough blame to go around on this one.

[Locai]

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c'mon man, Jimmy is just bigboned

...and Kurt's just big-ear'd.


These two morons have been going at it for awhile now.

A more fitting punishment for Spencer would be to make him drive the short bus during the races.

[Dmitriy_Guller]

I think the trouble has been coming mainly from the Spencer side, I don't know what he has against Busch. It started about two years ago when Busch was in top 10, and Spencer just put him into the wall when being lapped for no apparent reason. Half a year later at Bristol, Busch paid back by shoving Spencer aside while fighting for the lead late in the race, but Spencer didn't crash and still finished second. Later that year at Indy, Spencer pulled an inexcusable move, punting Busch into the wall at about 180 MPH when Busch passed him. Now we have this incident. To me, it looks like Spencer has been the one inflicting the damage all along. I hope he gets to sit out the rest of the year, hopefully in jail, to ponder his own stupidity.

[FredrikB]

From Nascar.com :

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NASCAR officials have suspended Jimmy Spencer for one week, fined him $25,000 and placed him on probation until the end of the year for Sunday's post-race altercation with Kurt Busch. Spencer will miss Wednesday night's Craftsman Truck Series race, in addition to Saturday night's Sharpie 500. Busch was also put on probation.

That'll teach him

F.

[Pikachu Racing]

Bristol is Spencer's best track and he's out. There goes his only chance for a win. Last week he challenged road course specialists to drive at Bristol. It would be funny if Boris Said got in the car for the race and qualify for it.

[Dudley]

They'd probably qualify very well.

Hopefully one of them will, in HIS car.

[Dmitriy_Guller]

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They'd probably qualify very well.

Hopefully one of them will, in HIS car.

I disagree, it isn't as easy as it looks, especially at places like Bristol. NASCAR may be a racing abomination, but those who only experience non-abomination racing will have some adjustment period, and some will not ever make it (like Chris Fittipaldi).

[Newtsche]

Roush was on Speed's "Wind Tunnel" w/Dave Despain this p.m. Spencer will be on tomorrow.

[Ross Stonefeld]

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I disagree, it isn't as easy as it looks, especially at places like Bristol. NASCAR may be a racing abomination, but those who only experience non-abomination racing will have some adjustment period, and some will not ever make it (like Chris Fittipaldi).

Success in NASCAR is as dependent on car/team as any other series out there. Fittipaldi wanking around in a Petty car doesnt mean much.

[troyf1]

Spencer got off easy IMO. He brings nothing to NASCAR except bad press.

[aportinga]

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Success in NASCAR is as dependent on car/team as any other series out there. Fittipaldi wanking around in a Petty car doesnt mean much.

Yeah I never got this with people when they bring up Fittipaldi. I mean he probably would not even be in racing if it wasn't for his last name for christ sake. He stunk in F1 and CART so why some people think that he would excell in NASCAR is beyond me.... He's never excelled anywhere....

On a side note..... I never enjoyed watching C. Fittipaldi, Gulgemin or Blundell in F1 or CART.....all over-hyped drivers period.

[ensign14]

To be fair to Christian, did he not win the F3000 title first go? Ahead of Zanardi et al?

[Vilenova]

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To be fair to Christian, did he not win the F3000 title first go? Ahead of Zanardi et al?

He's also had some very scary crashes. Not too good for your confidence.
As for Spencer he got what he deserves. In my experience these little dustups are not usually 1-sided.

The funniest gathering of the clans I ever saw was when that crusty 80 yr old redass A.J Foyt decided he wanted to try and rip poor little Arie a new one......rofl, that was funny.

[Manson]

I'm surprised NASCAR did anything at all. A good fued makes for good TV ratings, right? Isn't that what NASCAR is all about?

[random]

Spencer's appealing his suspension and he's got some compelling evidence that Busch attempted to wreck into him during the race. I'm not condoning what Spencer did, but if there is rock solid evidence the Busch started it, I'd probably drop his penalty to probation.

The following is a transcript during the race of Busch to his crew:

"Busch said, "See, I'm not very good at being bad. I was trying to flatten the 7 car (Spencer) fender and I got mine. I needed to be further forward on his car."

Someone on his crew responded, "They just showed that on TV. You just missed by about an inch or two. Ah, not far enough forward."

Busch replied, "Inches only count unless you're playing horseshoes and hand grenades. Ah, I don't want to play either with that clown."

http://espn.go.com/r...19/1599114.html

[wegmann]

Given this evidence, it seems both penalties are relatively fair.

But tell me, if you owned a race team, would you employ a driver who was as fat and old as Jimmy Spencer? I mean, he probably has some skill, since he appears to be able to make up for his huge weight penalty, but geez, there's gotta be better race car drivers in the world than this.

[shaggy]

Robby Gordon said that he would pay for Spencer's fine because Busch had been "asking" for it.

What did Busch do ? Is he dirty ? A loudmouth ?

A small and skinny guy does not usually pose such threat to others.

Is it envy from others ?

shaggy

[AndrewK]

Kurt Busch has been asking for it... he drives like an idiot and wrecks people for no reason, and now he suddenly has no idea why Jimmy Spencer is mad at him. Fool. Now has he not only shown he's a idiot but also a pussy.

Kurt Busch

Jimmy Spencer

Nascar in general

[Nasty McBastard]

i dont really know much about the fellas in nascar, appart from what you hear about them during races, and in the pre-race stuff....

having said that, ive always had the impression spencer would be an absolute bastard if you ever got on his wrong side.
just looks like the kinda bloke whod be out brawling on a sat night if he didnt have to race on sunday....

anyway..thats my stereotypical view for the day.

btw...it seems to be spencer who has the problem, not bush.

i think bush nerfed him once (was it bristol? thats understandable) and then spencer was 'after' him for ages......people seem to THINK it ended when spencer butt****ed him into the wall at indy, but obviously not.

[Paste]

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Originally posted by shaggy
Robby Gordon said that he would pay for Spencer's fine because Busch had been "asking" for it.

What did Busch do ? Is he dirty ? A loudmouth ?

A small and skinny guy does not usually pose such threat to others.

Is it envy from others ?

shaggy

It's not envy. Busch has a history of being an ass - he spun Robby Gordon out in the Winston (NASCAR's All-Star event) a couple of years ago because he "felt that the race needed a caution". Basically Busch does whatever he wants, and doesn't really ever seem to think that what he does will come back to haunt him. It finally did.

[AndrewK]

My opinion is biased because I dont like Kurt Busch... so I like it that Spencer broke his nose.

[Vilenova]

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Originally posted by shaggy
Robby Gordon said that he would pay for Spencer's fine because Busch had been "asking" for it.

What did Busch do ? Is he dirty ? A loudmouth ?

A small and skinny guy does not usually pose such threat to others.

Is it envy from others ?

shaggy

A small and skinny guy driving a 3000 lb car at 180 mph does pose a threat.

[random]

Seems like Busch left a smoking gun with that race recording. I won't be surprised if he ends up sitting out a race as well.

Nascar fans don't really care about the pushing on track or the punching off track. But what they really don't respect is someone that instigates trouble then cries like a baby when it comes back on them.

Busch should have shrugged off the injury and not made a big deal about it. Most of the drivers in the Nascar are smart enough to have done just that. But Busch had to publish a whole list of trumped up injuries that appear to have been written by an ambulance chasing attorney.

Busch obviously isn't too smart, or he's so arrogant that he think's he's above all this. He needs to get back in touch with reality because he's losing fan's by the minute. On the positive side, he's likely replaced Jeff Gordon as the most hated driver in the series.

[Ross Stonefeld]

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Seems like Busch left a smoking gun with that race recording. I won't be surprised if he ends up sitting out a race as well.

Unlikely, this is the series that rejoices in the on track revenge ram

[Lantern]

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Kurt Busch has been asking for it... he drives like an idiot and wrecks people for no reason, and now he suddenly has no idea why Jimmy Spencer is mad at him. Fool. Now has he not only shown he's a idiot but also a pussy.

Kurt Busch

Jimmy Spencer

Nascar in general

Right on the money!!



It's odd that a few friends and I were talking about why someone hasn't done this already.......BEFORE the end of the race. Kurt beats and bangs everyone on the track without a single word from NASCAR due to their "young gun" PR they have going on right now. It was only a matter of time before someone got some order of revenge and Robbie's comments seem to support my theory.

[Nasty McBastard]

at the risk of sounding like im using this to take a cheap shot at nascar........(which im not btw, i quite enjoy the series).....

jimmy spencer is just as argy-bargy as busch......probably doubly so.

spencer is also a ****.

people carry on about how hes a mans man and a racers racer etc etc, and how hes not afraid to be the guy in the middle when its 3 wide etc etc.......

all that probably accounts for why he always seems to be the first fella sliding down the road on his head, or constantly looking for weak spots in the walls by testing how much give they have when you hit them going backwards.

busch has one thing over spencer atleast......hes WINNING RACES.

when did spencer last win? 1994 or something? take the hint big fella (infact that goes for all those guys who run 36 races a year for a decade and never win).

any other race series would of spat him out long ago.

spencer personifies all those 'redneck' stereotypes that people have about nascar (fat, old, hasbeen, cant turn left, crys about road courses...etc etc etc)..those stereotypes other people claim are false, and complain about when theyre brought up.

sadly spencer proves them all true.

[Newtsche]

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Originally posted by random
On the positive side, he's likely replaced Jeff Gordon as the most hated driver in the series.

Ya think? It'd be a shame if the masses actually had a reason for their bile.

[Locai]

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Originally posted by random
The following is a transcript during the race of Busch to his crew:

"Busch said, "See, I'm not very good at being bad. I was trying to flatten the 7 car (Spencer) fender and I got mine. I needed to be further forward on his car."

Someone on his crew responded, "They just showed that on TV. You just missed by about an inch or two. Ah, not far enough forward."

Busch replied, "Inches only count unless you're playing horseshoes and hand grenades. Ah, I don't want to play either with that clown."

http://espn.go.com/r...19/1599114.html

Well, I heard the recording during "Windtunnel with Dave DeSpain" last night. That totally changed my opinion on the whole thing. They're both morons.

How big of an idiot do you have to be to intentially play "chicken" at 180mph?


In the end, it will be the sponsors that have the ultimate say. I would assume that Rubbermaid and Sirius would rather not have their corporate identities tied to these two buffoons.

[aportinga]

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Ya think? It'd be a shame if the masses actually had a reason for their bile.

No ****.... Why they hate him is beyond me. Probably because NASCAR (no matter how you cut it) still remains a field of good old boys who'd rather see a fight while drunk off their asses then watch real racing.

Hopefully that will change.

[Math Soucy]

Bush is a nitwit and it's remarkable he hasn't been confronted earlier. He's drop-kicked many drivers, not just Spencer, and has been immune to the stewards for too long.

[Chris G.]

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Bush is a nitwit and it's remarkable he hasn't been confronted earlier.

Probably true, but can you leave the president out of this?




;)

[Jordan191]

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No ****.... Why they hate him is beyond me. Probably because NASCAR (no matter how you cut it) still remains a field of good old boys who'd rather see a fight while drunk off their asses then watch real racing.

Hopefully that will change.

of course real racing is that exciting brand of follow the leader that is showcased by F1 and CART

[Slyder]

here's an interesting opinion:

http://espn.go.com/r...dgo/030819.html

[FredrikB]

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here's an interesting opinion:
http://espn.go.com/r...dgo/030819.html

Spot on.
In any other sport he would be out for a long time.

F.

[aportinga]

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of course real racing is that exciting brand of follow the leader that is showcased by F1 and CART

Sometimes I wonder why you are even a member here.

[random]

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Originally posted by FredrikB

In any other sport he would be out for a long time.

F.

Not likely.

Busch not only tried to wreck spencer out during the race (which he admitted), he stopped his car right in front of Spencer's garage, blocking Spencer's car from entering and then verbally provoked him.

And now it comes to light that there's video and audio of the entire confrontation. http://www.thatsraci...cin/6603158.htm

There's enough blame in this one to go all the way around. I'd have thrown them both out for a race.

[Ross Stonefeld]

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Busch not only tried to wreck spencer out during the race (which he admitted), he stopped his car right in front of Spencer's garage, blocking Spencer's car from entering and then verbally provoked him.

Thats a liberal interpretation. He was trying to damage him, I wouldnt say he was wrecking him (in the relatively practical term of trying to DNF spencer)


My thoughts a week later

--Its good Spencer got thrown out for physical violence
--but why is it okay to hype the bejesus out of the drivers getting angryat Bristol and even keeping a running tally during the race?
--It was ridiculously funny to hear Spencer and his car owner say how upset they were at the idea someone would intentionally try to hit them, when NASCAR is all about the revenge ram
--Kurt Busch is a lying sack of ****, and an arrogant one at that
--NASCAR/TNT/FOX suck. Ive never seen such unprofessional journalism

[random]

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Originally posted by Ross Stonefeld


Thats a liberal interpretation. He was trying to damage him, I wouldnt say he was wrecking him (in the relatively practical term of trying to DNF spencer)


My thoughts a week later

--Its good Spencer got thrown out for physical violence
--but why is it okay to hype the bejesus out of the drivers getting angryat Bristol and even keeping a running tally during the race?
--It was ridiculously funny to hear Spencer and his car owner say how upset they were at the idea someone would intentionally try to hit them, when NASCAR is all about the revenge ram
--Kurt Busch is a lying sack of ****, and an arrogant one at that
--NASCAR/TNT/FOX suck. Ive never seen such unprofessional journalism

True, he was likely only trying to bend in his fender. But that could easily have cut his tire down and caused him to wreck. But you're right in that it's not clear as to his intentions.

I agree with the rest of that as well, but the post race was a bit amusing. I've never heard a winner so booed, not even Jeff Gordon. Well, maybe Schumacher at Austria last year, but even Schumi didn't have a good portion of 160,000 fans, all surrounding him in a small stadium and booing him.

And wasn't it Harvick that called Busch "rubber head" in the post race interview. The way he said it, it seemed that's the real nick-name that Busch has been dubbed with. I used to know a guy that picked up the nickname "Rubber Head", he was an idiot too. Funny stuff.

[Locai]

OK, I know that this whole subject has been beaten to death, but...

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In the end, it will be the sponsors that have the ultimate say. I would assume that Rubbermaid and Sirius would rather not have their corporate identities tied to these two buffoons.

...as I predicted...

Sponsor sanctions Busch after Spencer fight

Ultimately, it's the money that always has the last word.