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#851 mouserat159

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Posted 06 February 2019 - 06:54

This is Monty Leslie's photo . Does anyone know the drivers besides Norm Beechey. Would car no, 83 be Pat Peck? and could anyone be able abort that green Mini looks to be aborting the start of the race is numbered 17. The yellow EH Holden would be a bit hard to identify

 

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#852 Ray Bell

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Posted 06 February 2019 - 11:50

Someone else might know...

Didn't Wayne Mahnken run his car in yellow at one time?

While we're there, are you sure it's Beechey and not Mike Gore?

That looks like Ron Gillard getting into Pat Peck's Torana.

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 00:59

Thank you Ray,

 

I Just thought that was Beechey Monaro, didn't Norm always run the number 4 I  seen a photo of Monty Leslie's of Norm Beechey sitting in the Monaro taken on the day, so I am pritty sure that it would have been him.

 

Does anyone else know & is able to help us out?

 

Thanks Ray.

 

Regards, Mouserat

Someone else might know...

Didn't Wayne Mahnken run his car in yellow at one time?

While we're there, are you sure it's Beechey and not Mike Gore?

That looks like Ron Gillard getting into Pat Peck's Torana.



#854 ellrosso

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 07:20

I'll go for Norm Gown in the EH next to Beechey and Lakis Manticas in the Mini. Agree with Ray re Gillard and McKeown in the 911S over the back of course.


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#855 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 08:28

Mahnken in the ex Harrop EH was a good deal later than early 70s. 



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Posted 07 March 2019 - 03:15

Lou Eversteyn in the Austin A30. Can anyone please be able to tell me the car & driver of car no. 76? I should know it, some kind of Austin

 

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#857 Ian G

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Posted 07 March 2019 - 11:20

76 is a Wolseley 1500 i think,a rebadged Austin Lancer from the early 1960's.

They bolted MGA/MGB motors into them but still couldn't compete with contemporary cars such as 48-215/FJ or Ford Anglias.



#858 ellrosso

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Posted 07 March 2019 - 18:51

I'm wondering if that is actually Nev Beyer's Austin Lancer? Not sure of the A30, haven't seen that one before.



#859 Ray Bell

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Posted 07 March 2019 - 23:48

Actually, the Lancers were rebadged Wolseley 1500s (without the fancy trim inside)...
 
Wolseley 1500s were sold in England, Austin Lancers weren't. Nor were Morris Majors, IIRC.
 
 
 
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#860 Ian G

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Posted 08 March 2019 - 10:23

Actually, the Lancers were rebadged Wolesley 1500s (without the fancy trim inside)...

 

Wolesley 1500s were sold in England, Austin Lancers weren't. Nor were Morris Majors, IIRC.

 

 

 

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They did sell the Wolesley 1500 out here Ray,not that it matters but my Brother purchased one from Larke Hoskins,as well as better trim they had a slightly different grille/bumper but i can't remember what the difference was to the Lancer.



#861 Ray Bell

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Posted 08 March 2019 - 12:09

Oh yes, I didn't say the Wolseleys didn't come here, merely that Lancers weren't seen in England...

Riley 1.5s were the one that didn't come here.

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Posted 08 March 2019 - 23:29

Ok,for all the BMC Fans there is a Larke Hoskins Tankard for sale on Ebay UK ,someone should bring it back to OZ.

 

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#863 mouserat159

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Posted 10 March 2019 - 11:08

Thank you Ian G, Ellrosso & Ray

Thank you all for your help. All I know the red A30 is Lou Eversteyn by an other photo I have seen from the Weir.

Thanks

Regards

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Posted 11 March 2019 - 05:37

Oh yes, I didn't say the Wolseleys didn't come here, merely that Lancers weren't seen in England...

Riley 1.5s were the one that didn't come here.

I don't recall if they were sold here or not, but I had a Riley 1.5. It was a pretty good little car - nice leather and walnut and what I guess was basically an MGA engine with twin SUs



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Posted 11 March 2019 - 05:44

I used a Riley engine in my MGA as it had a mechanical drive output from the back of the camshaft as per the MGA engine. A chap here used to import the engines from NZ as the Riley wasn't sold in Australia, guess we already had the Lancer, Major and Wolesley.



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Posted 11 March 2019 - 06:27

Hello Everyone, Today I got to the bottom of the photo I posted the other day. Car no 76 is Nev Beyer's Austin Lancer

 

Thank you.

 

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#867 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 11 March 2019 - 09:44

Oh yes, I didn't say the Wolseleys didn't come here, merely that Lancers weren't seen in England...

Riley 1.5s were the one that didn't come here.

Austin Lancer thats the answer,,,, you see the power of advertising. 50 years ago or so.

Early Lancers had a huge appetite for axles yet the Morris Majors did not. The Wolselys? 

Having owned a couple of Majors as used cars they did not seem near as good as they did in period. But did sell ok. Nice cheap little classic and one bought by a lady who had one as her first car in about 1970. A girlfriends mum had one in about that period and it seemed very nice,,, then.



#868 Ray Bell

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Posted 11 March 2019 - 12:07

Lee, there were two reasons the Majors were easier on axles...

Axle breakage was caused by a combination of not having compliance between the spline and the axle proper and also a propensity to lift wheels and have them come down spinning. Crunch!

Mind you, this is only for the Major Elite, which had no Lancer equivalent... they went almost overboard to fix the problem. They made a heavier hemisphere and used fine-spline axles, then they fitted tubular shocks. The housings had gone to cast iron for all the Mk 2 Majors and Lancers but I doubt that made any difference. They also changed ratios at that point from 3.78 (IIRC) to 4.222.

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Posted 12 March 2019 - 04:19

We had two Wolseley 1500's back in the day (one bought for spares). The old man had one as his run around car to go to work and Mum used the Wolseley 24/80 (owned from new in '62). We bought the 1500 second hand from a grandmother whose surname was "Sweet" (!!! true....) and from memory it only had 30,000 odd miles on it. Only cosmetic differences to the Austin Lancer. Good little car but crap on dirt roads, especially with washboard surface - like driving on ice, back end going everywhere. 

I used to commandeer it most weekends to go surfing when I got my licence in 1973 (hence the crap roads). We'd take the back seat out and put the boards in through the boot. Very reliable although I remember dad taking the motor out and

putting in a Repco recond unit. Coincidentally, my girlfriend at the time had a black 1500 too. They were great student cars back then.



#870 Ian G

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Posted 12 March 2019 - 10:35

 Only cosmetic differences to the Austin Lancer. 

 

Yeah,my Brother had one,went in to buy the Lancer and came out with a Wolseley,IIRC LH fitted a aftermarket Heater to the Wolseley to try and extract a few more £ out of Lancer buyers.



#871 Ray Bell

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Posted 13 March 2019 - 03:23

Don't forget that the badge on the grille was special...

It lit up when the parking lights were on.

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Posted 13 March 2019 - 06:52

Lee, there were two reasons the Majors were easier on axles...

Axle breakage was caused by a combination of not having compliance between the spline and the axle proper and also a propensity to lift wheels and have them come down spinning. Crunch!

Mind you, this is only for the Major Elite, which had no Lancer equivalent... they went almost overboard to fix the problem. They made a heavier hemisphere and used fine-spline axles, then they fitted tubular shocks. The housings had gone to cast iron for all the Mk 2 Majors and Lancers but I doubt that made any difference. They also changed ratios at that point from 3.78 (IIRC) to 4.222.

As I remember now a mate had a Lancer also in the early 70s.  A real revhead then and it broke axles wholesale. He fitted Mk1 Zephyr axles with some redrilling and stopped breaking them. Though Mk1 Zephyrs too had an appetite for axles as well. Shocks were half the problem so we made brackets and fitted FJ shockers. And yes they were not great but far better than the original lever ones.

This on our stockcar track in the bottom paddock.



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Posted 13 March 2019 - 08:21

The other problem, which saw the flanges break off those axles, was when wheel bearings wore...

There was often some pretty rough machining on the insides of the flanges which made great stress raisers and led to breakages.

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Posted 13 March 2019 - 18:50

Good Dick Simpson shot of Peter Woodward in the Elfin 350 Climax 2.5 from the September meeting in 1969.9452-F-Elf350-69-lo.jpg



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Posted 20 March 2019 - 05:12

Hi Would anyone happen to know who is driving the FJ Holden ( I can't quite make out the name on the bonnet) and who is in the black Mini?

 

Thanks

 

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#876 Dale Harvey

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Posted 20 March 2019 - 21:30

The 48-215 may be Barry Warwick. The blue looks the same as he used.
Dale.

#877 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 20 March 2019 - 21:44

Hi Would anyone happen to know who is driving the FJ Holden ( I can't quite make out the name on the bonnet) and who is in the black Mini?

 

Thanks

 

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Eden Blue an EH color. And it is a 48 series not a FJ. The early Holden people lynch people getting that wrong!!



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Posted 20 March 2019 - 23:22

Hi Dale & Lee

 

Thank you very much for your reply & answers.

 

Kind Regards

 

Mouserat



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Posted 21 March 2019 - 06:52

Hi would anyone know the first name of Mr. Grose? He drove a A9X Torana. Sorry I can't put up the photo as Postimages.org is down at the moment 

 

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#880 Ray Bell

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Posted 21 March 2019 - 06:55

That would be Les Grose, wouldn't it?

 

There was also a Ron Grose, but I think he raced Minis.



#881 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 21 March 2019 - 07:42

Les Grose was a minor player in those days. I think he had also raced Sports Sedans.

So many without a great deal of money who however could race at the top level on the occasion they had a budget.



#882 Ray Bell

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Posted 21 March 2019 - 12:34

I seem to recall something about Les Grose and a Torana V8 at Bathurst with Bruce McPhee involved...

 

A lime green car.



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Posted 22 March 2019 - 01:35

Hello Ray & Lee.

 

Thank you for your replies. Postimages appears to be working today. So I will post the photo of Lee or Les

 

Yes Ray, it would be a Lime Green in color?

 

 

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#884 Ray Bell

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Posted 22 March 2019 - 08:53

And 'W M Holden' is 'Wyong Motors', often a Bruce McPhee supporter...



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Posted 22 March 2019 - 11:35

Thanks Ray,so is the driver Lee or Les? Does anyone know. All my progames are to old.

Thank you

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#886 Ray Bell

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Posted 22 March 2019 - 11:47

Les, definitely...



#887 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 23 March 2019 - 00:35

Hello Ray & Lee.

 

Thank you for your replies. Postimages appears to be working today. So I will post the photo of Lee or Les

 

Yes Ray, it would be a Lime Green in color?

 

 

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I suspect that car started as an SLR 5000. Possibly a late model used car. Flares do not look correctly placed. Many L34 racecars started as such, even some HDT ones. Though they were new cars from Holden just updated into L34. They ever only raced as such for a few months.



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Posted 23 March 2019 - 01:33

Hello Ray & Lee.

 

Thank you very much for you reply's & answers. I do appreciate it  



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Posted 18 April 2019 - 02:39

Hi Would anyone know the cars & drivers in this photo & maybe the date?

 

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Posted 18 April 2019 - 03:30

Ernie Molina MGTC Special "Vulgarilla" leading Peter Candy ( MG Special) probably Dec 1973 perhaps Easter 1974



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Posted 18 April 2019 - 03:41

Hi John 

 

Thank you very much for your help.

 

Regards,

 

Mouserat

Ernie Molina MGTC Special "Vulgarilla" leading Peter Candy ( MG Special) probably Dec 1973 perhaps Easter 1974



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Posted 18 April 2019 - 05:27

Hi can anyone be able to help with this photo from the Weir- possibly from the same meeting as before. What's the first name of Mr. Nightingale- Gates? How is in the Volvo no 83?

 

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#893 Ray Bell

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Posted 18 April 2019 - 08:04

Brian Nightingale...

The Volvo is probably Phil Lucas, but it might be Gerry Lister. Seldo might know more.

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Posted 18 April 2019 - 08:06

The Brian Potts photo you've retired might well be from the same meeting/s...

Without my magazines I can't look up Maclean's name. Stephen might have a program from Hume Weir or Winton with him in, though.

#895 mouserat159

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Posted 18 April 2019 - 10:39

Thank you Ray, do you know Seldo or Stephen?
Thanks again Ray
All the best
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#896 ellrosso

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Posted 18 April 2019 - 19:34

It is Phil Lucas in the Volvo.



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Posted 19 April 2019 - 01:05

Hume Weir programmes are pretty thin on the ground. Well they are here anyway, with huge gaps between those I do have. 

 

The closest I can come to finding mention of  Les Grose and Phil Lucas at the same metting is Tom Naughton's December 28, 1975 meeting report in February 1976 RCN.

 

Stephen



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Posted 19 April 2019 - 05:05

Hi Ellrosso & Stephen 

 

Thank you very much for your help

 

Kind Regards

 

Mouserat  :up:



#899 Ray Bell

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Posted 19 April 2019 - 10:15

What about Maclean's Torana, Stephen, seen racing against Brian Potts?

Maybe that photo needs to go up again?




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Posted 19 April 2019 - 10:52

Hi would anyone pleas be able to tell me the cars (besides Ernie Molina MGTC Special "Vulgarilla" ) probably Dec 1973 perhaps Easter 1974 taken the same day as the above photo I'm guessing

Thank you

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