
1:18-scale CMC Auto Union V16
#1
Posted 10 October 2003 - 10:19
DCN
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#2
Posted 10 October 2003 - 10:35

Although perhaps erstaunlich (astonishing) conveys it better in German!
#3
Posted 10 October 2003 - 10:40
Going to pick up my Type C from St Martin's next week...
#4
Posted 10 October 2003 - 10:44
Originally posted by Vitesse2
Unglaublich![]()
Although perhaps erstaunlich (astonishing) conveys it better in German!
Quick Germans lesson
I think "unglaublich" fits indeed quite good. Or "enttäuschend" (disappointing).

#5
Posted 10 October 2003 - 10:54

#6
Posted 10 October 2003 - 13:17
I am dismayed...
Outraged of Tunbridge Wells

#7
Posted 10 October 2003 - 13:36
"Bridgestone" for instance...
.....Give me strength, please, not to mention 'Dunsafe'.....
#8
Posted 10 October 2003 - 14:04
The C-Type is one that I must have. Immediately. One of my all time favorite racing cars.
But with Dunlop tires? I just looked at the pics on the CMC website of this new model and it looks stunning in the photos.
Dunlop tires??????? This makes no sense to me. Herr Dietrich would not be amused.
#9
Posted 10 October 2003 - 15:01
[B]Long-awaited German scale GP car model arrived this a.m. At first sight quite wonderful but for one feature. Bloody thing's fitted with Dunlop tyres! What's German for "unbelievable"?
Peccato!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#10
Posted 10 October 2003 - 18:46
Originally posted by Doug Nye
On my bank manager's life - yes, Dunlop - not just the tread pattern but the sidewall lettering too...
I am dismayed...
Outraged of Tunbridge Wells![]()
But I read, in all other details the model must be perfect? So Doug, it's up to you to toast some detailled 19" and 22" tyres in 1:18 scale. Maybe on sunday morning?

#11
Posted 10 October 2003 - 19:25

#12
Posted 10 October 2003 - 19:34


"Mediocracy Sucks".



#13
Posted 11 October 2003 - 01:25
who knows? had cmc waited a bit the model might have come with [t] riden [t] tyres.....[sorry,inside vintage racing joke.. :smoking: ]
#14
Posted 11 October 2003 - 07:12
#15
Posted 11 October 2003 - 09:35
Originally posted by dbw
.... who knows? had cmc waited a bit the model might have come with [t] riden [t] tyres.....[sorry,inside vintage racing joke.. :smoking: ]


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#16
Posted 11 October 2003 - 14:39
The driver loves the road loves the driver loves the road loves the driver loves the road the driver loves the.......
The AU Typ C was a very good car.

And BTW: Did they always use Continental tyres? Are you sure? Realy? I'm not! For example Tripolis, I'm not sure they used Continental tyres all seasons.
#17
Posted 11 October 2003 - 14:56
It is way to small..

Why did they do that?????
Because...
The rest of the model is great!!
So now they only have to add or change
5 parts:
4 tyres
one steering wheel
all where easy to detach and change...
on the real Auto Union!!
a matter of a few seconds..
not a minute work
let's see how long it takes for CMC to correct of that!
Paul Hooft

#18
Posted 11 October 2003 - 15:05
I am almost sure that if they where not on Continental Tyres Herr A. H. and some others of his Nazi Regime would have got a Heart attack!
So putting on Dunlops

Would have changed the History of the World..
Paul
#19
Posted 20 October 2003 - 05:02
One of the points I noted was they refered to the tyres as Continental/Dunlop so maybe there was Dunlops used at one time maybe one race!?! or maybe all the historians at CMC and Exoto are just plane wrong.
Ian
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#20
Posted 20 October 2003 - 10:40
IAM
I couldn't find any pic's of the W196 on the EXOTO homepage.

Do you have a link to those pic's?
cheers Marty
#21
Posted 20 October 2003 - 11:11
In fact - having paid my money - the more I think about this the hotter under the collar I become...I just thought it was odd at first - now I feel a sense of humour failure coming on...

DCN
#22
Posted 20 October 2003 - 11:26
Posted by Martin Roessler
A friend of mine said that Rosemeyer and Delius tested Dunlop tires in South-Africa to let the world know how weak they were compared to the german Continental....
This is what Elly Beinhorn-Rosemeyer says in her book Mein Mann der Rennfahrer. But it was during a practise session only and not in the race.. Apparently they didn't last nearly as long as the Contis.
Of course in a demonstration Rosemeyer could have given some extra throttle every now and then to wear the Dunlops out faster than normally

#23
Posted 20 October 2003 - 15:52
Doug: have you clocked the other annoying fault - the front tyres have been incorrectly moulded, resulting in a U, rather than Z pattern in those Dunlop tread blocks. And, to add further fuel to your ire, the Dunlop-treaded tyres of CMC's D-type Auto Union are far better modelled... but have Continental side-wall lettering, for gawd's sake!
I should add that the new C-Type is otherwise a fantastic model, the sort of thing I never dreamed I'd see on general sale. Hey CMC, How about a Vanwall next, or P25 BRM? With the correct tyres, of course...
#24
Posted 20 October 2003 - 16:55
Vanwall:
ok with me..
Delage 1 1/2 litre
or Miller FWD or RWD??
Love that!!
But... they must be very brave...
I think they make a 1914 GP Mercedes or the SSKL!
oh, no!! not on those Dunlops again!!!
and I am not counting all those Auto Union... versions... that come next
I already know that...
Paul
#25
Posted 20 October 2003 - 19:45
Paul, I couldn't agree more with your choices. The Delage or the Miller would be incredible. Has CMC produced anything other than German cars?Originally posted by paulhooft
Next model - Delage 1 1/2 litre
or Miller FWD or RWD??
Paul
In spite of the remarks regarding the C-type which I totally agree with, I ordered one anyhow. I just had to have one of these.
#26
Posted 24 October 2003 - 12:08
Let's hope that they didn't simply add another pair of wheels and Dunlop tires at the rear of the C-Type. Even worse: they may stick together the front of the D and the rear of the C. Double Dunlops, of course!
#27
Posted 24 October 2003 - 14:21
I couldn't find any pic's of the W196 on the EXOTO homepage.
The pictures and text are nowhere on the Exoto site but in the quarterly "Exoto Tifosi" catalogue they send out.
I will try to scan some pictures and email them to you as I cannot (don't know how) to put them up on the web.
Ian
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Posted 24 October 2003 - 18:40
#29
Posted 24 October 2003 - 19:10
it has tincan wheels!;) (like the rest of the toycar

#30
Posted 24 October 2003 - 21:10
Originally posted by RZeemering
i just bought an auto union streamliner toycar from hopefully around the time that car drove (or few years later (early 40's)
it has tincan wheels!;) (like the rest of the toycar)
Anyway, you just be a lucky man?;)
#31
Posted 31 October 2003 - 20:11
Originally posted by Doug Nye
In fact - having paid my money - the more I think about this the hotter under the collar I become...I just thought it was odd at first - now I feel a sense of humour failure coming on...![]()
DCN
I know the feeling, Doug. The ground clearance of my D-type increases every time I look at it.


Which I find worse than the modern Dunlop tyres with Continental markings.
BTW, did Dunlop provide tyres to road racing cars before WW2?
#32
Posted 31 October 2003 - 20:19
the other Tread:
I now have my Lotus 1965 Indy winner
"not Powered by Ford",

to place next to my Auto Union C type on DUNLOP tyres???
a year to remember

Paul
#33
Posted 31 October 2003 - 23:06
Originally posted by oldtimer
BTW, did Dunlop provide tyres to road racing cars before WW2?
Not half!
#34
Posted 31 October 2003 - 23:11
Even half on the rear of certain hillclimb ERAs!
#35
Posted 02 November 2003 - 13:03
#36
Posted 02 November 2003 - 17:22
I performed the same mod on my D-Type as well. Indeed an improvement.Originally posted by Philip Whiteman
Oldtimer: the rear ride height of the CMC D-Type A-U is easily reset by removing the little helper spring that sits between the de Dion tube and the transmission. This is, of course, a non-authentic part and the 'suspension' on the models is not a whole lot more effective than the 'steering', in any event!
#37
Posted 02 November 2003 - 23:34

#38
Posted 03 November 2003 - 00:18
Originally posted by dretceterini
Not German, but I would love to see a really good model of the Lancia D-50
Scale - 1:1 ;)

#39
Posted 03 November 2003 - 16:50
Not German, but I would love to see a really good model of the Lancia D-50
Great car Great photo..
the Helmet seems to be out of time with the car..

Was the car really in this dark red colour?
Never realized that...
Paul
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#40
Posted 03 November 2003 - 17:05
Replica yes, complete accuracy no, because correct tire (and often wheel) availability is a real problem when trying to replicate a vehicle properly. Ask any Porsche 935 owner about getting those Goodyear, Pirelli or Dunlop 19" X 15" rear tires... Virtually all the cars had to be converted to 16" or 18" rears and lost this great look that they had with the big 19" tires.

#41
Posted 03 November 2003 - 20:20
Originally posted by Philip Whiteman
Oldtimer: the rear ride height of the CMC D-Type A-U is easily reset by removing the little helper spring that sits between the de Dion tube and the transmission. This is, of course, a non-authentic part and the 'suspension' on the models is not a whole lot more effective than the 'steering', in any event!
I did that within 24 hours of possession, but it still looks too high, and taking T54's point, too bulky when compared to the CMC W154 model. :
Surely the D50 ran on 16 inch wheels?
#42
Posted 03 November 2003 - 20:40
Or 17" if I recall. After all, the W154 were on 19-inchers then, and so were the Auto-Unions. The model looks like it has 15" wheels.
The Englebert or Pirelli tires also were a LOT taller than the Dunlop "dog-bone" pattern tires used on the replica cars of today.
Just compare this picture below of a Cooper-Climax fitted with 16" wheels and Dunlop "dog-bone" tires to the pic of the Lancia D50 replica. Makes you belive that the D50 is now running on 15", which would explain all the lost ground clearance...!


#43
Posted 29 December 2003 - 15:23
The level of detailing on the C-Type surpasses any other CMC model that I own. I love the grill and wire wheel details.