Originally posted by john medley
Thanks, David. Re pic in AMS, yes there was, but no I havent checked it recently. And thank you for helping me spell Moncrieiff
Did he?
Out of curiosity, what edition of AMS?
Posted 24 May 2010 - 00:39
Originally posted by john medley
Thanks, David. Re pic in AMS, yes there was, but no I havent checked it recently. And thank you for helping me spell Moncrieiff
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Posted 24 May 2010 - 07:10
Posted 24 May 2010 - 12:54
1950 or 1951 Johore report I think. I no longer have a copy
Posted 24 May 2010 - 17:48
Posted 24 May 2010 - 21:28
Posted 17 June 2010 - 07:10
I hope this will be directly relevant to the ongoing discussion but also it may be of general interest to those researching the history of cars which competed in the Singapore GP. This is a *goldmine* of a site I stumbled across when Googling the name of a driver. It has lots of thumbnails, which you can view in a larger size, but which unfortunately have a watermark on them. However, I have no doubt that, if you wanted the photos for your collection, they will relieve you of some cash and provide you with a scan or a print!
Picture Archives Singapore
This link should take you to a search page - simply type in 'Grand Prix' and it should bring up a huge amount (hundreds, literally) of images.
Quite remarkably, the photos go back to 1952 and include both motorcycle, saloon, sports and single-seater cars. From the late 1960s, a lot of the shots are in colour too. Some of the photos have had quite detailed captions added to them - I don't know by whom - giving precise information about chassis numbers and/or ownership before and after the person in the photo. If it is correct, it could prove to be quite useful I suspect to the likes of Allen Brown, Chris Townsend, Brian Miller etc. You can also search by marque name or driver surname.
I'm hoping no-one has posted about this before, but I'd actually be surprised if they haven't as I found it quite easily...
For the Elfin enthusiasts among us, one particular shot may be of interest, taken in 1969 of Iriawan's car being worked on (by Garrie Cooper) in the paddock. It has the following caption:
"GARRIE COOPER HAD BEEN FAIRLY SUCCESSFUL WITH HIS MARKETING IN AUSTRALIA AND NO FEWER THAN FIVE ELFINS HAD BEEN ENTERED FOR THE SINGAPORE EVENT IN 1969. THE PHOTO SHOWS HENKIE IRIAWAN SITTING DOWN IN THE FAR LEFT OF THE PHOTO AS GARRIE COOPER'S ORIGINAL ELFIN 600 PROTOTYPE, THE 1968 GRAND PRIX WINNING CAR, GETS FETTLED BY LOH YAP TING (IN WHITE ATTIRE). THE FOREIGN ENTRANTS HAD ACCESS TO SEVERAL WORKSHOPS ON THE ISLAND IF THEY NEEDED SERIOUS WORK DONE ON THEIR CARS, FEDERATED MOTORS AND BORNEO MOTORS GENERALLY BEING THE PREFERRED WORKSHOPS."
Sorry about the caps, all their captions are in upper case. To find this photo, just put Iriawan in the search box.
Another caption to a photo of Iriawan driving a Pallisser says:
"THE PALLISER WAS A COPY OF THE BRABHAM BT21 CHASSIS," RECALLS VERN SCHUPPAN, A VISITOR TO THE EVENT IN 1971, INVITED BY HENKIE IRIAWAN TO DRIVE HIS ELFIN 600C, WHICH VERN RECALLS, WAS "A NON-RUNNER."
And finally, a caption to a photo of an ex-Rondel BT36 Brabham reads:
"THERE WERE A COUPLE OF NEW NAMES IN THE ENTRY LIST FOR 1972. RIKI OHKUBO OF JAPAN ENTERED A BRABHAM ALFA WHILE JOEY BUNDALIAN OF THE PHILIPPINES HAD HENKIE IRIAWAN'S ELFIN 600C. PETER CHOW ENTERED A BRABHAM BT21 FROM HONG KONG AND JOHN MACDONALD HAD HIS BRABHAM BT36 RONDEL, THE EX-GRAHAM HILL CAR (PICTURED WITH TUDOR SPONSORSHIP FAIRLY EVIDENT). THE RODEL WAS PURCHASED DIRECTLY FROM RON DENNIS IN THE UNITED KINGDOM.."
Not being familiar with Elfin history, I don't know if any of this helps or hinders but I thought I'd put it out there anyway...
Michael
Posted 17 June 2010 - 09:05
Posted 18 June 2010 - 00:09
Andrew has sent me you photos, Corvette, which has enabled me to zoom in for a closer look.
The engine is a Hart 416B twin cam so Hengkie's FVA is missing which is no great surprise and there is nothing Elfin left of the bodywork!! However, what can be seen of the frame and suspension etc are all very 600 and the FT200 transmission, wheels, rear suspension uprights and, in particular, the larger than normal fuel tanks are all consistent with the Iriawan car (s/n 6910).
Can we have more detail please? Some body off photos showing the front suspension (the 600C's had a unique type of fabricated front upright), cockpit, instrument panel and other detail particularly the chassis plate if still fitted would help. The most important aid to tracing the car's origins, however, will be its history and what link that might provide back to the Iriawan car which was last heard of in the hands of Joey Bundalian at Macau in 1971. Your car looks like it has had some use in the past 20 years or so and the signage carried indicates that may have been in Oz. Where is it now and where has it been? More information needed!!!
Paul Hamilton
Posted 18 June 2010 - 01:51
Correct me if I am wrong. I believe this photo was taken at the factory in 1969 just prior to delivery to Hamilton, NZ
By null at 2010-06-17
Posted 26 June 2023 - 09:51
Usual thing, came across this oddball - poor quality - image looking for something else. I assume it's at Mascot.
Jack and KB are easy enough to pick, but who are the other fellas, the travelling party, bonus points for the babes?
The sticker on the Brabham BT30's side says 'Grace Bros Race Team Australia' a last minute addition.
Quick look, the car is Graeme Lawrence's, Leo drove it in the 1972 Singapore GP as GL was still recovering from his horrific, blameless, high-speed collision with Bryan Faloon in the NZ GP that January. GL was a very popular boy in South East Asia, perhaps Leo was helping sponsor commitments to be met.
Why is Jack present? I spose he went too? https://primotipo.co...ingapore-sling/
Edited by MarkBisset, 26 June 2023 - 09:58.
Posted 26 June 2023 - 10:31
Obviously their hair is being tossed around by a 707 taxiing past...
Yes, KB and Black Jack are recognisable, but the Grace Bros Race Team which went to Singapore (and Malaysia) that year was a large one. Bob Muir was in it driving Ken Goodwin's Rennmax, that could (with some wild imagination) be Bob up there on the trailer. It's not Bill Fanning or Tony Stewart, nor Ken Goodwin, or Garrie Cooper or Malcolm Ramsay, all of whom where in the 'team', but it could be Ron Toombs there on the right.
John Smailes and Max Stahl were involved and went on the trip too, as naturally enough did some of the mechanics, but it appears that Jack didn't. I would think this was the only time Leo drove a Brabham.
Posted 26 June 2023 - 11:57
The babes are Anna and Michelle. Trust me.
Posted 26 June 2023 - 21:53
The one with the firm grip on KB's hand...
Is that Anna or Michelle?
Posted 27 June 2023 - 06:27
Michelle. But sorry to disappoint you, I think KB's caressing... the rollover bar!
Posted 29 June 2023 - 13:03
Vern Schuppan in the Singapore GP paddock with the proprietor of Australia's favourite racing monthly for a couple of decades, Racing Car News' Max Stahl in 1972 (unattributed)
Here Vern's March 722 Ford chases Garrie Cooper's similarly powered Elfin 600D during the race - second and DNF - won by Max Stewart's Mildren Ford (Archives Singapore)
Vern’s March 722-40 has an interesting history in the UK and South East Asia and was raced in Macau by Vern, Alan Jones, Derek Daly and Roberto Moreno when owned by Teddy Yip, to whom Schuppan sold it; https://primotipo.co...ern-schuppan-3/
Edited by MarkBisset, 29 June 2023 - 13:23.
Posted 22 September 2023 - 12:30
Singapore GP 1972:
Kiyoshi Misaki, 26, and Ricky Okhubo, 32:
"Misaki, a test driver with
a Japanese motor firm, was
reported to have crashed
his Brabham BT 16 at
Funabashi circuit while
testing it for the Singapore
Grand Prix.
Misaki, known as "glam-
our boy" among racing fans
in Japan because of his
film star look however, is
fit to race here.
According to MSA, who
are sponsoring Misaki, the
Japanese driver is most
likely to partner a Colt 1600.
Misaki scored his first
success in a single seater
car in 1965, winning the
All-Japanese sports car race
in a Honda 600.
He took part in the
Japan, Macau and Singa-
pore Grand Prix last year.
In the Japan GP he
finished eighth, was third
in the Macau GP, and tenth
in Singapore. He was also
the winner of the Fuji 1,000
km race in 1969.
Team-mate Okhubo, who
will be making his debut
in the Singapore GP, holds
a string of impressive titles.
A veteran of the Macau GP,
Okhubo won the 1962-1963
Japan GP and All-Japan
hill climb titles.
His other racing achieve-
ments include—12th Macau
GP (class winner), 13th
Macau GP (class 2nd), Fuji
24 hours race (class win-
er), 14th Macau GP
(fourth), Fuji 1,000km
race (class 2nd), Macau
Guia 101 (5th), NET
All-Star race (third), and
18th Macau GP (2nd)."
The Straits Times, 26 March 1972, Page 21
RGDS RLT
Edited by Rupertlt1, 22 September 2023 - 12:33.
Posted 22 September 2023 - 14:14
Formula Ford:
"David Goode in his Brab-
ham replica, Tuppence
Ford"
New Nation, 29 March 1972, Page 23
Coode in some sources, from Australia, resident Malaysia?
#52 Tuppence F1600 at Macau 1971. Accident involving #4 Garrie Cooper.
RGDS RLT
Edited by Rupertlt1, 22 September 2023 - 14:36.
Posted 28 September 2023 - 02:08
If anyone is still interested in this topic, here's a good tip:
https://primotipo.co...y-lorenzo-baer/
Posted 01 October 2023 - 13:52
Originally posted by Rupertlt1[/i]
Formula Ford:
"David Goode in his Brab-
ham replica, Tuppence
Ford"
New Nation, 29 March 1972, Page 23
Coode in some sources, from Australia, resident Malaysia?
#52 Tuppence F1600 at Macau 1971. Accident involving #4 Garrie Cooper.
The Tuppence Ford was familiar to us at race meetings near to Sydney...
I find a few entries in Oran Park meetings in 1968, David Goode being the driver on both occasions and the car's engine was 997cc - standard 105E. In 1969 I find an entry for the car with Peter Mohr at the wheel at Oran Park, a couple of entries at Catalina Park with Goode the driver. One entry has Lyle Gray as 'reserve' driver.
It was, to my knowledge, never a Formula Ford in Australia. It's a fair assumption that Goode moved to the Far East and took the car with him.
Posted 01 October 2023 - 22:04
Not so 'Goode'...
I had assumed that as his name had changed in the programmes from 'Coode' to 'Goode' over a period, with the 'Goode' being the latter spelling that it was a correction made over that time. But not so.
Looking further, 'Coode' made a comeback. And at Warwick Farm it was always 'Coode', which is more indicative of the accuracy of that spelling.
The name of the car, 'Tuppence Ford', follows on from a car he ran in 1966 called the 'Penny Ford', which was also powered by a 105E engine. So he doubled his investment? He entered at Bathurst in both cars, and it's pretty clear that he stopped competing at these circuits, Oran Park, Catalina, Warwick Farm and Mount Panorama, about July, 1969.
Posted 13 March 2024 - 05:41
An early Singapore GP survivor at the Phillip Island Classic last weekend.
Bill Griffiths has owned this AC Ace Bristol since circa 1985 and contested three Targa Tasmania's in it amongst other events.
Eli Solomon wrote that "Barry Swann and his AC Bristol (no 20) were regular visitors from Barry's base in Malacca (here in 1961). His car collection also included a Bugatti Type 57, the AC, and ex-Grand Prix, pre-war ERA R2A. The latter often raced in the Grand Prix and was always the oldest car on the grid." 'Snakes and Ladders'
I rode with Bill on the last leg to Cowes on Friday, the car has noticeably more punch than Bob King's red AC Ace Bristol (top above) with which I am very familiar.
Bill's car is much cherished, used a lot in Tassie and is maintained by him. I'll find out the full competition history of the car after he returns home.
Edited by MarkBisset, 13 March 2024 - 06:02.
Posted 17 September 2024 - 12:07
If anyone is still interested in this topic, here's a good tip:
Since we are on the week of the Singapore GP, I decided to republish my last years text about the 1970 edition of the race.
In partnership with SCD and one of the top experts of Southeast Asia F. Libre racing series, Eli Solomon, the new version adds new details about the 1970 Singapore GP, new photos (including colored ones!), and a plus: a hole new section, talking about the second (and last) of Lawrence's Ferrari wins in the region, during the 1970 Selangor GP.
You can check this 'refurbished' piece here: https://sportscardig...gor-grand-prix/
Cheers!