13 replies to this topic

[Ted Walker]

Does anyone have a list of "runners & riders" for this event. I have just printed a load of prints that I cant caption,apart from the cars.

[uechtel]

Sorry, only the result of the 1500 cc sports cars, but nevertheless, it´s at least a start:

1. Edgar Barth
2. Heini Walter
3. Ernst Vogel
4. Wolfgang Seidel
5. Anton von Döry

all in Porsche RSK

[uechtel]

Just forgot the date:

26.07.1959

[alessandro silva]

Only this for the time being. If I find my old notes in a reasonable amount of time, I'll post.

SCHAUINSLAND, 26 july 1959, distance 12,0 km.

l. E. BARTH, Porsche RSK 1500 (D) . . . . . 7m44s1 7m41'1 15'25"2

- 93,1 kmh

2. H. WALTER, Porsche RSK 1500 (CH) . . . . 7'47s9 7m45*2 15m33"1

3. E. VOGEL, Porsche RSK 1500 (A) . . . . . 7'48"3 745*5 15m33"8
4. W. SEIDEL, Porsche RSK 1500 (D) . . . . . 7'50"1 7'45'8 15'36"
5. A. von DORY, Porsche RSK 1500 (RA) . . . 8'04s4 7'57"8 16'02*2
6. T. SPYCHIGER, Osca 1100 (CH) . . . . . . 8'11s5 8'06*0 16'17*6,
7. J. GREGER, Porsche Carrera 1500 (D) 8'14s5 8'19"5 16'34"
8. S. GüNTHER, Porsche Carrera 1500 (D) 8'21s9 8'28s7 16m50s6

9. S. BRUGGER, DKW-Special 1100 (CH) . . . 8'28s8 8'31s9 17'OOs8

10. G. THEILER, DKW-Monza 1000 (CH) . . . . 9'30s9 9m37s1 19m08s1

[David McKinney]

Some more names - no numbers, sorry
Heinz Maltz (FJ Hartmann-DKW)
Walter Schatz (FJ Hartmann-DKW)
Gerhard Mitter (FJ Mitter-DKW)
Hopf (250TR Ferrari) crashed
Stangl (Ferrari 250GT)
Theo Geithner (Mercedes-Benz 300SL)
Rudi Golderer (Mercedes, presumably 190SL)
Hans Stuck Sr (BMW 507)
Helm Glöckler (BMW, probably 507)
Robert Huber (AC-Bristol)
David Rauch (Morgan Plus Four)
Jean Thuner (Triumph)
Sepp Greger (Porsche GT)
Wolfgang Seidel (Porsche GT)
Paul-Ernst Strähle (Porsche GT)
W Häderle (Porsche GT)
Karl Foitek (Alfa Romeo Giulietta GT)
Herbert Schulze (Alfa Romeo Giulietta GT)
Basilius (Fiat-Abarth 750)
Ludwig Fischer (Fiat-Abarth 750)
Peter Gratzer (Fiat-Abarth 750)
Marcel Prêtre (Plymouth Fury)
Artur Heuberger (big BMW saloon)
Eberhard Mahle (Volvo saloon)
Prince zu Schaumburg-Lippe (Citroen saloon)
Kurt Geiss (Alfa Romeo saloon)
Helmut Felder (Alfa Romeo saloon)
Helmut Kögel (Mercedes saloon)
Willy König (Borgward saloon)
Fritz Häusermann (Volvo)
Eugen Böhringer (Alfa Romeo Giulietta)
Jacques Schwindenhammer (Alfa Romeo Giulietta)
Hans Bauer (Alfa Romeo Giulietta)
Alfred Höber (Simca saloon)
Manfred Hönig (Auto Union saloon)
Karl Hasler (Auto Union saloon)
Manfred Sensburg (Auto Union saloon)
Willy Franz (Auto Union saloon)
Dr Ekkehard Döhring (BMW 700)
Bruno Runte (Saab)
Hermann Böhm (NSU)
Adolf Brudes (NSU)

[Ted Walker]

Thanks chaps. Its the competition Numbers to go with them im stuck for.

[David McKinney]

MotorSport didn’t bother much with European hillclimbs at this time
Autosport did, but doesn’t seem to have covered this event
Autocourse has three photographs:
Barth (RSK) 164
Seidel (RSK) no number visible
Brugger (Sauter-Auto Union sports) 150

Now, if you can just tell me where I put my photocopy of the Auto Motor und Sport report...

[Ted Walker]

David I have Auto Motor und Sport.Its got a few photos that have helped with 2 Cars.

[David McKinney]

OK, I'll stop looking

[RAP]

alessandro silva - I appreciate you posting the top 10 results for 1959. Do you have this for other years in 50s/early 60s that you could post, please. As David McKinney says, coverage of European hillclimbs in UK was not very good. Thanks.

[alessandro silva]

RAP:
I might have some.
What do you need precisely?

[RAP]

Alessandro
Thanks for your reply. In checking I have realised that my "missing" years are because the event was not run ! (1952, 54, 55, 56) However I only have limited 1957 so if you had say top 10 for that year that would be great.
Thanks

[alessandro silva]

I am sorry Ted, I found race numbers for 1957, but not for 1959!


Grosser Bergpreis Freiburg-Schauínsland

28 july1957

VOITURES DE SPORT

1101-2000 cc.
1. 62 Barth (D) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . PORSCHE 1500 Rs 16'57”8 84,89 km/h.
2. 61 Maglioli (I) . . . . . . . . . . . . . PORSCHE 1500 Rs 17'03”1
3. 60 Herrmann (D) . . . . . . . . . . . . . BORGWARD 1500 Rs 17'24-1
4. 63 Munaron (I) . . . . . . . . . . PORSCHE 1500 Rs 18'20”5
5. 49 Buffa (I). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . MASERATI 2000 18’22”8
6. 57 Tedeschi (I). . . . . . . . . . . . . MASERATI 2000 18'25”1

VOITURES DE GRAND TOURISME

Jusqu'à 1300 cc.
l. 23 Foitek (CH). ALFA ROMEO GIULIETTA SPRINT VELOCE 19,09,5, 75,17 km/h.
2. 20 Mahle (D) . . . . . . . . . .ALFA ROMEO GIULIETTA SPRINT VELOCE 19,09,8
3. 14 Felder . . . . . . . . . . ALFA ROMEO GIULIETTA SPRINT VELOCE 19'24'7
4. 21 Hickcox . . . . . . .ALFA ROMEO GIULIETTA SPRINT VELOCE 19'45”8
5. 24 « Rudolf Wilhelm » . .ALFA ROMBO GIULIETTA SPRINT VELOCE 19'49'
6. 12 Frìeder . . . . . . .ALFA ROMEO GIULIETTA SPRINT VELOCE 20’59”4

Jusqu'à 1600 cc.

1. 28 Greger (A). . . . . . . . . . . . . . PORSCHE CARRERA 18'04”2 79.69 km/h.
2. 38 Dr Bender . . . . . . . . . . . . PORSCHE CARRERA 18'12”7
3. 36 Ruby . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . PORSCHE GS/GT 18'24"8
4. 34 Walter . . . . . . . . . . . . . . PORSCHE CARRERA 18'33”6
5. 25 Günther . . . . . . . . . . . . . . PORSCHE CARRERA 19'08”2
6. 37 v. Saucken . . . . . . . . . . . . FORSCHE SPEEDSTER 19'21”9

Plus de 1600 cc.

1. 42 Geither . . . . . . . . . . . . . . MERCEDES 300 SL 19'24'6 74,22 km/h.

[RAP]

Alessandro
Thanks very much
RAP