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[HEROS]

About the mid 70's, Lola built sports cars type T 282, T 284 & T 286. These cars were
powered by Ford DFV V8 engines and were used by private teams like Scuderia Filipinetti, Jolly Club, Giorgio Pianta, Heinz Schultess, ...

Results of races were not extraordinary but these cars were interesting to see running.

So, I want to know how many cars were really built and was they new chassis or just an
evolution of each other ?

Thanks.

[Jeremy Jackson]

We have a long-running thread on Ten-Tenths on this subject.

However, there is very little definite infromation. Some chassis were probably updates. The chassis numbers appear to be consecutive from the T280 throught to the T286.
The T286 built up in 1984 after a cancelled order from de Cadenet in 1977, and raced in Thundersports by James Wallis & Mike Wilds, was chassis HU10 and was for sale last year.

[Gerard Gamand]

Here a pic of Heinz Schulthess on his Lola T284-HU2 V8DFV at Hockenheim

[gerard BARATHIEU]

nice pic GERARD

Is it in an INTERSERIE race and which year ?

[Peter Morley]

Originally posted by Jeremy Jackson
We have a long-running thread on Ten-Tenths on this subject.

However, there is very little definite infromation. Some chassis were probably updates. The chassis numbers appear to be consecutive from the T280 throught to the T286.
The T286 built up in 1984 after a cancelled order from de Cadenet in 1977, and raced in Thundersports by James Wallis & Mike Wilds, was chassis HU10 and was for sale last year.

Did you by any chance find where all these cars are today?
They would be welcome in the new Masters series.

[Gerard Gamand]

Gérard

I think (no time to verification) it's the Interserie race of april 1975

[sat]

Schlultess has no 125 in swiss championship race 25.5.75.

[phinorman]

Hello !

An article written by me in french with a pic of Lola T284S at Dijon 1975 1000 kms and a pic of one his driver Heinz Schultheiss.

http://memoiresdesta...000 km de dijon


I think that Lola T286 was built in 1976.

best regards from Phinorman

[Gerard Gamand]

Philippe,

I was with Heinz Schulthess yesterday, and he go very well.
He have 68 and run a business in the caravan, near Neufchatel in Switzerland.

He had run very succesfully a superb GRAC MT14B-012 with FVC engine in 72-73
During this period he imported the GRAC in Switzerland (14 was sale)
(I'm writing the full story of the GRAC - book would be ready in spring 2008 - and it's the reason why I was with him yesterday)

Then he bought the Lola T284-HU2 (on some paper it's called T280-4-HU2) and run it in 74-75

After he created the Warsteiner Team Schulthess with two TOJ : one 3 liters DFV engine and the other with a 2 liters BMW Schnitzer in 1976

Then he stopped his career because he was disgusted by his differents team mate, who rent the car and always complain of anything.

He also run a March 741-01 in some hillclimb during 1976

A very nice man indeed

[Gerard Gamand]

Sat,

Thanks for the precision. So it's the Swiss championship race.

[Allen Brown]

Originally posted by Gerard Gamand
He also run a March 741-01 in some hillclimb during 1976

I am most interested in this. I knew he ran a 741-DFV at some point - I though in 1975 - and have heard some stories about where it came from and where it went. I saw the car - or what was claimed to be the car - a few years ago.

Did Heinz tell you anything more about the 741?

Allen

[phinorman]

Dear Gerard !

Many thanks for this information. Bravo to your future book. I'll contact Heinz Schulthess in the next weeks.

Gérard Cayeux, one of his co-driver at Le Mans 1974 with Michel Lateste seems to be in Gentlemen Drivers french magazine.

See you soon with best regards.

Phinorman

Originally posted by Gerard Gamand
Philippe,

I was with Heinz Schulthess yesterday, and he go very well.
He have 68 and run a business in the caravan, near Neufchatel in Switzerland.

He had run very succesfully a superb GRAC MT14B-012 with FVC engine in 72-73
During this period he imported the GRAC in Switzerland (14 was sale)
(I'm writing the full story of the GRAC - book would be ready in spring 2008 - and it's the reason why I was with him yesterday)

Then he bought the Lola T284-HU2 (on some paper it's called T280-4-HU2) and run it in 74-75

After he created the Warsteiner Team Schulthess with two TOJ : one 3 liters DFV engine and the other with a 2 liters BMW Schnitzer in 1976

Then he stopped his career because he was disgusted by his differents team mate, who rent the car and always complain of anything.

He also run a March 741-01 in some hillclimb during 1976

A very nice man indeed

[fausto]

phinorman, when you contact Heinz Schulthess can you please ask him about the Sambo Turbo, the car entered at Le Mans a couple of times in the late '70s? It would be nice to know something more about his project, and the stage it reached...

thank you!

[AMICALEMANS]

you now Fausto, that the Sambo NEVER appear at Le Mans even during scruteneering...

[fausto]

yes, I know, and this is one of the reasons I'd like to learn more about it could be nice to get something like drawings, artist impressions, pics, if they started to build the car...

[AMICALEMANS]

Did you have ever see a picture or a drawing of this project ?
If yes, please show it to us because i am also very interested.

[fausto]

Originally posted by AMICALEMANS
Did you have ever see a picture or a drawing of this project ?
If yes, please show it to us because i am also very interested.

No, but I suppose that with the car being entered for two consecutive years they must have something



sorry for going OT...

[phinorman]

Hello !

It's OK Fausto to ask to Heinz Schulthess whel I'll call him.

Regards. Phinorman

Originally posted by fausto
phinorman, when you contact Heinz Schulthess can you please ask him about the Sambo Turbo, the car entered at Le Mans a couple of times in the late '70s? It would be nice to know something more about his project, and the stage it reached...

thank you!

[Allen Brown]

Phinorman

Could you ask him about the March 741 as well? I believe he bought it from Jean Blanc in 1975 and then kept it until about 2000 when he sold it to an Englishman. Could you ask him if that is true?

Thanks

Allen

[phinorman]

NO problem for that Allen. regards. Phinorman

Originally posted by Allen Brown
Phinorman

Could you ask him about the March 741 as well? I believe he bought it from Jean Blanc in 1975 and then kept it until about 2000 when he sold it to an Englishman. Could you ask him if that is true?

Thanks

Allen

[phinorman]

Hi !

See this link. You'll find Heinz Schulthess in his Grac MT14 in a historical hill climb race at Ollon Villars.

http://www.ollon-villars.com/m1.html

Best regards. Phinorman

[Gerard Gamand]

I really don't know which GRAC MT14 it's.
The only single seater (MT14 is a single seater) that I've seen in his garage was completly dismantled ????

Maybe he DNA ??

I'll phone him.

[phinorman]

Hi Gérard !

May be a car from an other owner ?

Regards from France

[km1164]

I think the Schulthess car was a T290 that was ordered new from the factory with DFV fitting kit and i cannot off the top of my head recall who the orignal customer was
The car was sold as T292 Hu50 he raced the car in Interserie and later the car was sold to Rudi jauslin
Can you ask Heinz to confirm this theory

[Gerald Swan]

As to the number of T280-282-286 built the Lola Chassis log shows:

T280 - 5 built, HU280/1 to HU280/5 - 2 supplied to Jo Bonnier, 1 to the Le Mans Company in Japan and 1 to Carlos Gaspar. Chassis number 5 was used to rebuild chassis 2.

T282 - 1 built, HU282/6 - supplied to Lafosse.

T286 - 4 built, HU286/7 to HU286/10 - 2 supplied to Heini Mader, 1 to Capoferri in Italy, 1 (in 1984) to the Otford Group.

Gerald.

www.lolaheritage.co.uk

[Allen Brown]

Thanks Gerald. Could you tell us the dates that these cars were invoiced? That would be especially useful on the T284s as they were built over quite a wide period.

[Gerald Swan]

Allen, no invoice dates for HU280/1 and /2 which, as far as I can tell, usually implies they are effectively "works" or at least "works supported" cars.

HU280/3 - 30/03/72
HU280/4 - 24/05/72
HU280/5 - used to rebuild HU280/2
HU282/6 - 04/01/73
HU286/7 - 11/03/76
HU286/8 - 07/03/77
HU286/9 - 24/03/77
HU286/10 - 07/11/84

As I understand it the T284 was nothing to do with Lola, it was built by Heine Mader and was a hybrid based on the HU280/2-5 that was written off by Jean-Louis Lafosse in qualifying for the 1972 Kyalami 9 Hours and a 1974 T294 2-litre car.

Gerald.

www.lolaheritage.co.uk

[Allen Brown]

Thanks for this Gerald.

Does the chassis record say that HU5 was used to rebuild HU2 or does that information come from another source?

[Gerald Swan]

Allen, it actually says that on the Chassis Log so I guess it implies damaged chassis 2 was returned to Lola but was beyond repair so the car was rebuilt around chassis 5 at the factory.

Gerald.

www.lolaheritage.co.uk

[Allen Brown]

Thanks Gerald. That's good enough for me!