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#51 Mike Lawrence

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Posted 22 October 2005 - 17:52

When the new BRDC Clubouse was opened, I was there and chatting to Howden. I said, "You used to be able to smoke in here, but smoking is banned yet you have fitted air conditioning."

Howden, once with Marlboro-BRM, said, "Smoking will kill you."

I said, "I will take that from many people, but not from a man who signed for Maki."

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#52 Doug Nye

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Posted 22 October 2005 - 20:46

I remember wandering in to the Carlton Tower Hotel to attend the Maki launch and there was Howden standing looking rather awkward flanked by our Japanese hosts. I recall we grinned and nodded to him - whereupon he glanced from side to side, beamed, then clicked his heels together, hissed almost inaudibly, and bowed low towards us, from the waist...

While I think every journo attending respected the Maki group's enthusiasm and good intentions it became obvious very quickly that at that time they were absolute innocents abroad. Even the most cursory examination of the car indicated it was a piece of optimistic rubbish. It was plain they were in for an extremely gruelling time as Formula 1 rifled their treasury, chewed them up - and spat them out. Howden - who is a super bloke - had grasped the opportunity to maintain a foothold in Formula 1, backed by the hope he could nurture their enthusiasm and contribute to a stronger team, and a better car in months to come. Instead, he ended up in the krankenhaus, and they ended up back home. :rolleyes:

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#53 Kojima_KE007

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Posted 23 October 2005 - 19:55

Originally posted by Doug Nye
I remember wandering in to the Carlton Tower Hotel to attend the Maki launch and there was Howden standing looking rather awkward flanked by our Japanese hosts. I recall we grinned and nodded to him - whereupon he glanced from side to side, beamed, then clicked his heels together, hissed almost inaudibly, and bowed low towards us, from the waist...

While I think every journo attending respected the Maki group's enthusiasm and good intentions it became obvious very quickly that at that time they were absolute innocents abroad. Even the most cursory examination of the car indicated it was a piece of optimistic rubbish. It was plain they were in for an extremely gruelling time as Formula 1 rifled their treasury, chewed them up - and spat them out. Howden - who is a super bloke - had grasped the opportunity to maintain a foothold in Formula 1, backed by the hope he could nurture their enthusiasm and contribute to a stronger team, and a better car in months to come. Instead, he ended up in the krankenhaus, and they ended up back home. :rolleyes:

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It is very interesting to hear stories from someone who had actually been to the Maki launch and I think there is no better way of summing up Maki than Mr. Nye did.

They were young and inexperienced, but the experience they gained during the Maki years was later put to good use, and Masao Ono came up with the Kojima KE007 in 1976.
Also, if Maki did not happen, then you never know how Kojima would have fared againts the regular teams or even, if they were allowed to race in 1976 Japanese GP at all (Kojima was only granted an entry after Masao Ono went to see Bernie Ecclestone in person, as all Japanese authorities denied them the right to enter for the race, when there was no restrictions at all.).

#54 Ray Bell

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Posted 23 October 2005 - 22:21

And where would we be without the Kojima story?

One of my favourites... it needs a Barry Boor... with a Japanese accent, of course.

#55 Mac Lark

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Posted 23 October 2005 - 22:31

Eoin Young's 'Grand Prix Racers' (I think that's what it was called) has a summary of the hilarious phone calls Howden was receiving at a time when he was certain that someone was playing a practical joke.

#56 Mac Lark

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Posted 23 October 2005 - 22:34

Make that (Maki that?) Eoin Young's 'Classic Racers'..

#57 Bill Wagenblatt

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Posted 24 October 2005 - 18:29

A couple of shots of the Maki. Both were taken on the Friday training day for the 1974 German GP.

In the paddock prior to practice

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About 45 minutes later

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#58 Kojima_KE007

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Posted 24 October 2005 - 20:37

Originally posted by Bill Wagenblatt
A couple of shots of the Maki. Both were taken on the Friday training day for the 1974 German GP.

In the paddock prior to practice

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About 45 minutes later

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Bill


Fantastic pictures!! :clap:

I have never seen any better picture than these of Maki at German GP 1974. :up:

#59 eldougo

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 09:23

:rotfl:
Secound pic should be labled Maki 45 minutes later a (Boat)

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#60 Kojima_KE007

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Posted 26 October 2005 - 12:57

No wonder why Ganley broke both of his legs in that crash.

If I am correct, the foot box is completely torn off... :eek:

#61 Kojima_KE007

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Posted 17 November 2005 - 21:49

Does anybody have any more pictures of Maki, especially from 1975 that you could let us use on our website taken by yourself?

Thanks in advance for your help.

and a tiny bit of update on our Maki...

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#62 Pedro 917

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Posted 17 November 2005 - 22:28

Hi Kento,

I've bought some Rodriguez pictures from Andrew Currie at the Brussels Retro Fair last month.
While browsing through the envelopes, I saw some pictures from the Maki F101A Press Presentation in 1974.
FYI: you can contact him on 1276.477.201 or at 1256.766.077 (warehouse)

#63 Kojima_KE007

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Posted 18 November 2005 - 10:58

Originally posted by Pedro 917
Hi Kento,

I've bought some Rodriguez pictures from Andrew Currie at the Brussels Retro Fair last month.
While browsing through the envelopes, I saw some pictures from the Maki F101A Press Presentation in 1974.
FYI: you can contact him on 1276.477.201 or at 1256.766.077 (warehouse)


Thanks for the info and thanks always for your help. :)

I will contact the person and see what he has.

#64 Penword

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Posted 18 November 2005 - 17:58

This has been a very interesting discussion.

Without changing the subject too much, can anyone explain how Ganley got involved with the Maki project. I know he started the 1974 season with March, but Brambilla was in that car after only a few races. Did Ganley lose the March drive and then get involved with Maki, or was he approached by the Maki people and chose to leave March?

Thanks for any info.

John In Canada
(who saw his first F1 race at Mosport Park in 1973, which Howden Ganley "unofficially" led in an Iso-Marlboro)

#65 philippe7

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Posted 18 November 2005 - 20:30

I think I remember that Ganley's (totally unsponsored) drive for March ( in a "british racing green" 741 IIRC) early 74 was purely a stand-in drive while waiting for the sponsored drivers to get their money together

#66 MCS

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Posted 18 November 2005 - 21:12

Originally posted by Penword
...can anyone explain how Ganley got involved with the Maki project. I know he started the 1974 season with March, but Brambilla was in that car after only a few races. Did Ganley lose the March drive and then get involved with Maki, or was he approached by the Maki people and chose to leave March?...


If I remember correctly, Ganley was hired for just the first two South American races to do some development and, obviously, racing - don't forget the Robin Herd connection back at McLaren.

Once the European season was underway, Vittorio Brambila was cued up to drive the second Beta Tools backed car...

#67 Kojima_KE007

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Posted 20 November 2005 - 12:20

Originally posted by PeterElleray
Ok, here we go ..

The F101 was said to be illegal at the time because of the width and height of the nose bodywork (higher than the front wheel rim , wider than the maximum allowable infront of the front wheel), and also i think, because the side pods took the 'coachwork' over the 140cm allowed at the time (I have to say that in the picture shown it doesn't look that obvious - i think there is a shot of the car testing at Goodwood , Ganley driving. which shows this much better). The 'coachwork' behind the front wheels is also higher than the wheels, which i think was another reason cited at the time (anybody have access to the 1974 FiA yearbook?). Having said all of that, i always quite liked that initial body, although i never quite worked out how the cooling system was supposed to work on it, and there are some interesting ideas in there which would resurface in the years to come.
On a slightly different note, i have only ever seen one picture of the 1976 version, from Autosport Oct '76. Anyone have any other shots (Kojima?). Another interesting car.


Sorry to dig out an old post, but could somebody provide us scans or reference of the actual articles stating the irregularity of the original Maki F101A body work/chassis and also, the regulation book from 1974 as well, because we are very interested in this and would like to investigate this.

Thanks in advance for your help.

#68 Twin Window

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Posted 20 November 2005 - 18:11

Originally posted by MCS

Once the European season was underway, Vittorio Brambila was cued up to drive the second Beta Tools backed car...

...while Hans Stuck took over the all-green Ganley chassis, which - by the British GP - had sprouted orange panels and some nice orange pinstriping.

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#69 f1steveuk

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Posted 21 November 2005 - 20:19

I was interested in the remarks made about British teams not taking the deformable structure regs seriously, didn't John Surtees shoot himself in the foot with the TS14 by over doing it, (well actually building to soon before FISA did a back pedal)??

#70 Jerry Entin

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Posted 22 November 2005 - 17:40

Howden says read Eion Young's book Classic Racers it explains everything about Howden and the Maki.

#71 Kojima_KE007

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Posted 24 November 2005 - 16:47

f1steveuk

I'm interested to hear stories like the one you metioned of John Surtees or regular team's point of view at the time.
Obviously, the communication back in those days weren't as good as these days, so there must be some uncovered story or misunderstanding/miscommunication between teams, authorities, media etc.

Jerry Entin

Thanks for that info. :clap:
Now I have more books to search for and read. :)

#72 f1steveuk

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Posted 24 November 2005 - 16:55

Happy reading!!

I'll try and find the paperwork I have :up:

#73 Peter Morley

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Posted 25 November 2005 - 08:30

Originally posted by Twin Window
...while Hans Stuck took over the all-green Ganley chassis, which - by the British GP - had sprouted orange panels and some nice orange pinstriping.


Apparently the car was slowly converted to orange as and when he destroyed parts of it - e.g. by the time of this photo it had a new tub (it had something like 3 new tubs during the year!).
The airbox probably hadn't been destroyed, they just replaced the original 'coachman' one with their later version.

#74 Kojima_KE007

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Posted 25 November 2005 - 12:04

Originally posted by marat
Two photos taken at the 1975 German GP (practice).

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marat

Could you pleas either e-mail or pm me?
I would like to ask you some questions regarding those pictures that you posted.

Thanks. :)

#75 macoran

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Posted 25 November 2005 - 18:43

Kojima
Ican't open them

#76 Kojima_KE007

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Posted 03 December 2005 - 11:05

Originally posted by macoran
Kojima
Ican't open them


macoran,

That's right. :)
marat seems to have taken his pitcures off from his server.

#77 Richard Jenkins

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Posted 03 December 2005 - 11:11

Is Mimura still in engineering of some sort or did the whole project put him off similiar projects?

#78 Kojima_KE007

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Posted 04 December 2005 - 09:46

Originally posted by Richie Jenkins
Is Mimura still in engineering of some sort or did the whole project put him off similiar projects?


Yes, he is still very much in engineering business.

After Maki, he was involved in Dome's Le Mans projects and was the executive director of Tokyo R&D, where Masao Ono currently is the president & C.E.O, then in 1985 he set up his own engineering design company called MIM Design.

#79 Honza

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Posted 20 December 2005 - 12:40

Hallo . I need some pictures of rear part of Maki 101.
Have anybody this magazine Autocourse
Picture on the bottom.

Thanks

Honza

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#80 Kojima_KE007

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Posted 26 December 2005 - 21:19

Originally posted by Honza
Hallo . I need some pictures of rear part of Maki 101.
Have anybody this magazine Autocourse
Picture on the bottom.

Thanks

Honza


Hi Honza,

Are you thinking of making a model of Maki F101?

#81 John-w

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 20:55

Hello,

here are some photos from my actual project.
Maki F101C, Tony Trimmer, Nürburgring 1975.
This kit is available from Wolf Models in scale 1/20th.

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I hope to finish the model soon.

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#82 John-w

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Posted 27 February 2011 - 14:34

Hello,

the Maki is finished now, here are some photos.

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#83 JacnGille

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Posted 27 February 2011 - 14:53

:up:

#84 Giraffe

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Posted 27 February 2011 - 15:55

A straight copy & paste from Tony Trimmer's Facebook wall when comparing his list of F1 cars driven...........

Worst cars and also highly dangerous were the 2 Maki's.
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