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[Bengt]

On Martin Krejci's sportcar pages I found some snippets of information about European guest drivers in some of the big international sportscar races of 1970.

Japan GP, Fuji, 6 September
1st Corrado Manfredini/Giampiero Moretti, Ferrari 512S (Sc Picchio Rosso)
6th Jo Siffert/David Piper, Porsche 917 (David Piper's)

Fuji, 23 November
2nd John Cannon, CDN, Ford G7A

I wonder if someone could fill in some more of the results from these races? It would make the picture a little bit more complete. I guess some of the Japanese group 7 cars from Nissan and Toyota could have been participating. I have always found these cars very interesting since I first encountered them in a Tamiya kit catalogue from the late sixties (my big brother built a Honda F1 modell 1:12) when I was about 5 years old and made me so envious).

[VDP]

Vic Elford was work drive at Japanese GP for Toyota in 1969 or 1970 if my memory is good
a full report of the race in Sport Auto the french one.

Henri Pescarolo was entered in a japanese race in 1973 with a 2 liter March 73 s ?

Robert

[fndc]

Moretti surely won at Fuji in 6th September 1970.
But race is named "Fuji International Golden Race,Fuji Inter 200 Mile Race".

Result is;
1 #2 Gianpiero Moretti Ferrrai512S 53laps
2 #20 Moto Kitano Nissan R380II 51laps
3 #26 Hajime Watanabe Lotus47 47laps
EX#11 Corrado Manfredini Porsche Carrera6

I can't discover John Cannon joins the race at 23rd November 1970.
In this day,the stock car race that Tinny Land(spelling?) joins was held at Fuji.

Any more info?

[conjohn]

Originally posted by fndc
I can't discover John Cannon joins the race at 23rd November 1970.
In this day,the stock car race that Tinny Land(spelling?) joins was held at Fuji.

Tiny Lund?

[gerard BARATHIEU]

GP of JAPAN 10/10/69: 1er KUROSANA (NISSAN R382 6,2L V12)
2éme KITANO (same car)
3éme X (TOYOTA 5L V8 )
4éme Vic ELFORD (same car)
5éme X (same car)
6éme J.SIFFERT/D.PIPER(PORSCHE 917/010)
7émeH.HERRMANN/K.TANAKA (PORSCHE 908/024 ?)(TAKI RACING TEAM)


another race was held 23/11/69 at MONT FUJI:CAN -AM race:
1er Minoru KAWAI (TOYOTA 5L V8)
2éme John CANNON(FORD G7A)
3éme Lothar MOTSCHENBACHER (MC LAREN M12 CHEVY )
4éme NAGAMATSU (PORSCHE 908/024 ? )5TAKI RACING TEAM)
5éme Gary WILSON (LOLA T 163 )

did not finished:Jackie OLIVER (AUTOCOAST CHEVY).

[conjohn]

In another thread, Fines pointed out an excellent site for Japanese results
http://www.jaf.or.jp...s/fr/index2.htm
...excellent, that is, if you understand Japanese, which I don't....

You get to the results by choosing the gif for Races, and at the bottom of the resulting page you can limit your search by giving a start year/month and an end year/month. You will then get a list of all races within that period.

As the numbers are the same in Western and Japanese, it is easy to find the relevant dates - then it gets a little bit more complicated. I expected to find the Western drivers name given in Western style, as they are for later years, but either they aren't or, more likely, it is not the right races I'm looking at.

So, can someone more skilled in Japanese than me, for example fndc, look at the web site and see what they can find?

[fndc]

1969 Japanese GP
1 #21 Masaharu Kurosawa/Yoshikazu(Giichi?) Sunako Nissan R382 120laps
2 #20 Moto Kitano/Tatsu(?) Yokoyama Nissan R382 120laps
3 #3 Minoru Kawai Toyota7 119laps
4 #7 Toshiaki Takahashi/Vic Elford Toyota7 117laps
5 #2 Hiroyuki Kukidome/Shihomi Hosoya Toyota7 117laps
6 #14 Jo Siffert/David Piper Porsche917 116laps
7 #17 Hans Herrmann/Kenjirou Tanaka Porsche908 116laps


1969 World Challenge Cup Fuji200mile Race
1 #52 Peter Revson McLarenM6B 75laps
2 #1 Sam Posy LolaT160 71laps
3 #9 Jo Bonier McLarenM6B 68laps
R #62 John Cannon McLarenM3B 55laps(?)


JAF's site shows Kawai won the race,but my resouce shows above.
I don't know which is true,because this isn't my era.;)

Anyway John Cannon took part in this race and retired by crash.

JAF's site is good but incomplete,so I collect old magazines.

[Bengt]

fndc,

the results you've got from the World Challenge Cup Race/Fuji 200 miles, I think refers to the 1968 race.

[gerard BARATHIEU]

1969:

500km of SUZUKA:1er KAWAI (TOYOTA 3L G7 )
2éme KOTOKE (HONDA 800R)
3éme SUNAKO (DATSUN 2000)
4éme OMARI (ISUZU 1600 GT)
5eme MASUDA ('HONDA S 800)
6éme ASANO (DATSUN 2000)
7éme SONE ('DATSUN 2000)
8éme SHIMIZU (ISUZU 1600GT).


dnf:KATAHASHI (PORSCHE 910)

[fndc]

Originally posted by Bengt
fndc,

the results you've got from the World Challenge Cup Race/Fuji 200 miles, I think refers to the 1968 race.

Begt,thank you!
It's my fault.

It is 1968 result.

[Martin Krejci]

Originally posted by Bengt
On Martin Krejci's sportcar pages I found some snippets of information about European guest drivers in some of the big international sportscar races of 1970.

Japan GP, Fuji, 6 September
1st Corrado Manfredini/Giampiero Moretti, Ferrari 512S (Sc Picchio Rosso)
6th Jo Siffert/David Piper, Porsche 917 (David Piper's)

Fuji, 23 November
2nd John Cannon, CDN, Ford G7A

I am now almost sure that following results belong to 1969 season:

6th Jo Siffert/David Piper, Porsche 917 (David Piper's)
2nd John Cannon, CDN, Ford G7A

It was an error in my sources and they fit my 1969 results exactly.

Originally posted by gerard BARATHIEU
another race was held 23/11/69 at MONT FUJI:CAN -AM race:
1er Minoru KAWAI (TOYOTA 5L V8)
2éme John CANNON(FORD G7A)
3éme Lothar MOTSCHENBACHER (MC LAREN M12 CHEVY )
4éme NAGAMATSU (PORSCHE 908/024 ? )5TAKI RACING TEAM)
5éme Gary WILSON (LOLA T 163 )

did not finished:Jackie OLIVER (AUTOCOAST CHEVY).

I have 4th Wilson, 5th Nagamatsu.

Originally posted by fndc
1969 Japanese GP
1 #21 Masaharu Kurosawa/Yoshikazu(Giichi?) Sunako Nissan R382 120laps
2 #20 Moto Kitano/Tatsu(?) Yokoyama Nissan R382 120laps
3 #3 Minoru Kawai Toyota7 119laps
4 #7 Toshiaki Takahashi/Vic Elford Toyota7 117laps
5 #2 Hiroyuki Kukidome/Shihomi Hosoya Toyota7 117laps
6 #14 Jo Siffert/David Piper Porsche917 116laps
7 #17 Hans Herrmann/Kenjirou Tanaka Porsche908 116laps

Was it really Toshiaki Takahashi on the 4th place? I had Kunimitsu Takahashi, but I am not quite convinced about reliability of my sources.

[fndc]

Originally posted by Martin Krejci

Was it really Toshiaki Takahashi on the 4th place? I had Kunimitsu Takahashi, but I am not quite convinced about reliability of my sources.

Hi Martin,

Kunimitsu was a member of Nissan factory team,so he couldn't drive Toyota.

Kunimitsu got 10th with Kenji Tohira on Nissan R382.

Tooru.

[Martin Krejci]

Originally posted by fndc



Hi Martin,

Kunimitsu was a member of Nissan factory team,so he couldn't drive Toyota.

Kunimitsu got 10th with Kenji Tohira on Nissan R382.

Tooru.

Thank you, Tooru, very much. Nice to see you here.

By the way, don't you know where I could get translator/convertor from Japanese characters to usual letters, that would not translate names? I've tried world.altavista.com to translate the JAF site but if any driver's name or surname had some meaning in English, it got completely misspelled and useless.

Martin

[fndc]

Originally posted by Martin Krejci

By the way, don't you know where I could get translator/convertor from Japanese characters to usual letters, that would not translate names? I've tried world.altavista.com to translate the JAF site but if any driver's name or surname had some meaning in English, it got completely misspelled and useless.

Martin

Unfortunately,I don't know it.

But I can help you.

[Martin Krejci]

Originally posted by fndc



Unfortunately,I don't know it.

But I can help you.

That would be nice

[Carlos Jalife]

Well, now that you're on to it, does anybody have anything on Pedro Rodríguez running 1968 or 69 races in Japan.
I know he was with Team Yasuda, and I guess it was really a DNF in the one I have. In 1969 he was supposed to run with the guys from Shadow, Don Harrison, but it didn't work out, they didn`t get a car. And 1968 was a bit strange since he was in Argentina at the end of the year so I am a bit at loss when it happenede really. And mexican newspapers have nothing absolutely.
Anybody knows anything?
Carlos Jalife

[fndc]

Originally posted by Carlos Jalife
Well, now that you're on to it, does anybody have anything on Pedro Rodrú„uez running 1968 or 69 races in Japan.
I know he was with Team Yasuda, and I guess it was really a DNF in the one I have. In 1969 he was supposed to run with the guys from Shadow, Don Harrison, but it didn't work out, they didn`t get a car. And 1968 was a bit strange since he was in Argentina at the end of the year so I am a bit at loss when it happenede really. And mexican newspapers have nothing absolutely.
Anybody knows anything?
Carlos Jalife

Pedro Rodriguez also participated in 1968 World Challenge Cup Fuji 200mile Race.
He drove #11 Lola T160 Chevrolet,but retired due to overheating.

[gerard BARATHIEU]

ref:AUTOSPORT NOVEMBER 22/1968 and NOVEMBER 29/1968.

I have no trace of Pedro RODRIGUEZ at the WORLD CHALLENGE CUP for the 200MILES of

Mount FUJI(23 NOVEMBER):

''half the field will be made up of Japanese entrants,while EUROPE is represented by Jo BONNIER
MC LAREN M6B,from the USA come Mark DONOHUE ,Peter REVSON,John CANNON,Chuck PARSONS,
Jerry TITUS ,Sam POSEY,George FOLLMER and Charly HAYES. "

the result was:1)Peter REVSON (MC LAREN M6B/7L/SHELBY ENTERED)
2)Mark DONOHUE (MC LAREN M6B/PENSKE ENTRANT)
3)Sam POSEY (LOLA CHEVY T70)
4)Jo BONNIER (MC LAREN M6B)
5)FUKUSAWA (TOYOTA R7S)

[Carlos Jalife]

Well, I have a picture of car #11 badly smoking in the front, and it is a Lola T160, so it has to be the 1968 since Pedro has the open face helmet, and the mountains in the back are consistent with Fuji, plus there are a couple of japanese guys with him. Maybe he didn't fit with Europeans and USA as Autosport would have it. And maybe it was a last minute deal as people around here seem to remember. He went out of the country after the GP for some political reason too lengthy to explain, and had to return only to pick up his stuff to go to Argentina in December, so in the US somebody offered him the race and he accepted since it was a free weekend and he wanted to go to Japan.
Thanks for the help.
Carlos Jalife

[Nanni Dietrich]

Originally posted by gerard BARATHIEU
ref:AUTOSPORT NOVEMBER 22/1968 and NOVEMBER 29/1968.

I have no trace of Pedro RODRIGUEZ at the WORLD CHALLENGE CUP for the 200MILES of

Mount FUJI(23 NOVEMBER):

''half the field will be made up of Japanese entrants,while EUROPE is represented by Jo BONNIER
MC LAREN M6B,from the USA come Mark DONOHUE ,Peter REVSON,John CANNON,Chuck PARSONS,
Jerry TITUS ,Sam POSEY,George FOLLMER and Charly HAYES. "

the result was:1)Peter REVSON (MC LAREN M6B/7L/SHELBY ENTERED)
2)Mark DONOHUE (MC LAREN M6B/PENSKE ENTRANT)
3)Sam POSEY (LOLA CHEVY T70)
4)Jo BONNIER (MC LAREN M6B)
5)FUKUSAWA (TOYOTA R7S)

According to magazine Autosport, issue 14 March 1969, Yukio Fukusawa was fourth in the 200 Mile Fuji Can-Am race. He was killed while testing a Toyota G7 in the same circuit, in March 1969 (complete date unknown).

[gerard BARATHIEU]

http://www.mmjp.or.j...ce/Result1.html

does any one could translate this japanese text.

[Nanni Dietrich]

Gerard, using an Altavista translator I have this final classification:

Victory P. Revson McLaren M6B 1 "39 ' 08 - 75
2 ranks S. Posey Lola T160 1 "39 ' 12 - 71
3 ranks J. Bonnier McLaren M6B 1 "39 ' 20 - 68
4 rank Fukuzawa Yukio Toyota 7 1 "40 ' 18 - 68
5 rank Otsubo Toyota 7 - 67