Sam Posey article
#1
Posted 17 March 2004 - 19:59
http://www.popsci.co...,600198,00.html
It may be the wrong kind, but it's definately nostalgia.
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#2
Posted 17 March 2004 - 23:56
I think every family tree should have a "crazy uncle" or two in it. Come to think of it, I may be one myself -- my brother's children certainly think so! (Nurtured in large part by his apocryphal tales of my wild youth...)
#3
Posted 04 June 2004 - 01:52
http://www.speedtv.c...industry/11356/
'For F1 fans living in North America, Sunday morning comes early. If like me, you live on the West Coast, your wake-up call is 4:30 a.m.
That’s a rude awakening, no matter what your party plans were the night before. Yet Sam Posey, with his poetic introductions to each broadcast, spoken in that distinctive upper crust manner, made those first groggy minutes of consciousness a good deal less rude. He made it sound as if you were rising to join in a noble cause, and that you were about to witness moments of greatness worth losing sleep for.
So what if a lot of the races turned about to yawners. He made you feel like you were there, even though he himself was not: Posey and his colleagues Bob Varsha and David Hobbs did the coverage from a sound booth in Connecticut. But with Posey setting the stage, you were right there in some Grand Prix paddock half a world away, sipping in the colorful atmosphere of race day at Monza, Monaco, or Silverstone. He could even make Hockenheim seem like the center of the universe, at least for a few hours.
The center of Posey’s own universe has never been as easy to pin down. His father was killed in the final days of World War II, leaving the infant Posey to be raised by his mother. She taught him to drive on the family’s Connecticut farm, fueling a young boy’s dream of following Fitch, Cunningham, and Phil Hill to Europe. But she also encouraged his artistic interests. He was never the sort of driver whose life revolved solely around motor racing. He had other interests. Architecture. History. Toy Trains.
Posey’s career as a driver is among the most varied imaginable: Sports car racing at Sebring, Daytona and Le Mans. He was a fixture on the grid during the halcyon days of both Can-Am and Trans-Am. He scored a top five in the Indy 500. Tried his hand at Australia’s Le Mans, the Bathurst 1000. He even achieved his ultimate goal, an F1 ride.
It wasn’t a long ride, but it was enough to satisfy Sam. For the U.S. Grand Prix in 1971, John Surtees was planning to bring a third car to Watkins Glen, and Posey asked for the seat. Surtees gave Posey the spot, but only after a practice session involving ?? proved Poesey to be the quicker candidate. That ‘71 shot misfired, however, as Posey had a bad start and then DNF’d when the engine blew early on. Another ride in a Surtess F1 car at the 1972 USGP at Watkins Glen in 1972 proved more satisfying. Posey finished the race a respectable 12th among the 31(!) starters.
And respect is all a race driver can really hope for at the end of the day. Equipment, management, funding, luck -- these are all things a driver can’t control. Yet they go a long way toward determining how full the trophy case is at the end of a career.
Posey’s case is by no means empty, but outright victories often eluded him. You get the sense that he’s OK with that. His trophies are things like the Control Tower at Lime Rock, which he and his brother designed. His trophies are the friends he’s made among fellow drivers, like Paul Newman and Tony Adamowicz, with whom he shared a pair of Le Mans drives.
Many of his friends and admirers will be joining Sam this Friday at Watkins Glen, when he will become the first recipient of the Bob Akin Memorial Motorsports Award. The award is named for the late Bob Akin, a contemporary of Posey who, after a distinquished sport car racing career in the ‘60s, ‘70s, and ‘80s, was killed in a historic race two years ago.
Posey is the perfect choice to be the Bob Akin Memorial’s first honoree. As a driver, he occupies a unique place in the sport, and as a TV commentator he shared with us his talent for revealing the complex character of both drivers and the art of driving. If you’re anywhere near Watkins Glen this Friday, you should make every the effort to get to the Glen Club Friday evening and join in honoring Sam Posey.
Even if it means getting up at 4:30 in the morning.'
#4
Posted 04 June 2004 - 14:38
Sam is a very talented race driver and at times, been a positive spokesman for the sport. Then there have been the times when he was an relentless blowhard.
Today, I choose to remember Sam as the great interview that he is, and the great racer that he was! (Sorry for hanging the participles! )
Sam's book, "The Mudge Pond Express" should be required reading for any young lad who wants to be a racer. In fact it should be required reading for all and sundry!!
Bravo, Sam and many more!
#5
Posted 04 June 2004 - 14:59
I have many memories of Sam's IMSA racing days. And his battles of wit with Bobby Unser.
#6
Posted 08 June 2004 - 01:59
#7
Posted 09 June 2004 - 01:41
I am glad that he is still with us, and while late on the draw, I applaud his honors.
#8
Posted 09 June 2004 - 04:48
There is a super scary picture of that somewhere...
Jp
#9
Posted 09 February 2006 - 14:02
found a story that he had offer to do F2 in 72 or 73 but that he didnt want to do it because F2 was dangerous and he didnt have motivation for F1 any more. and than he continued going to indy and driving in F5000 which were no less dangerous
did he stay in america because of his wife mybe? what was that all about?
in fact have read mudge pond express recently and i get impression of hims as very fast driver, almost 2nd to none at the time with small tech and setups knowledge. very bad decisionmaker too. still, i get the impression that he was as good as, say revson. guess thats inflated opinion. supposedly, he got himself in surtees for complete 1973 season would pace have blown him away? how good was he?
#10
Posted 10 February 2006 - 00:39
He did, in a round about way provide me with one of my best lines.
A writer for Car & Driver, Charles Fox, created the opportunity for himself to drive Sam's T160 Lola which he proceeded to crash and demolish.
http://72.14.207.104...ca&ct=clnk&cd=6
A couple of years later I spy him at Mosport, and being a juvenlie smart mouth, walk up to him and ask, "Are you Charles Fox, the Charles Fox of the infamous Danville incidence?"
He had the good grace to laugh and say yes and then chat with me for a few minutes.
I always enjoyed his writing but was gad that that I didn't have to pay his bills.
#11
Posted 10 February 2006 - 02:16
Much later, at Phoenie Internation during a Indy car race, had the opportunity to chat with Sam, and felt that he was pretty much a regular guy.
#12
Posted 10 February 2006 - 13:14
driver in which posey crashed at riverside was tom courtney and he apparently sued posey for crashing into him
btw george, your link doesnt seem to work
#14
Posted 14 February 2006 - 10:42
#15
Posted 14 February 2006 - 12:46
#16
Posted 14 February 2006 - 18:52
interesting account of his crash, err.. test by charles fox, shame he doesnt say what did sam look like when he returned to the pits
btw, having driven grand prix legends sim /F1 1967/ on around 150 tracks, from bridgehampton to solitude, you get much better understanding about racing situations on these tracks in any motoring book than from just seeing it on tv or even live. recommended to anyone who didnt have fortune to race on them for real like jerry.
there is even one gentelmen called i think Chris O'Brien who raced atlantics and f3 in early 70s and had raced in a gpl league recently.
#17
Posted 17 October 2008 - 15:45
Sam Posey and Jerry Entin and Harry Lipetz and Tony Adamowicz
This picture is from Elkhart Lake, it is inside the Formula 5000 tent. Sam Posey had come to Elkhart Lake to be honored by the Formula 5000 Association and to also meet the fans.
#18
Posted 17 October 2008 - 19:55
And, the dude can write! My copy of "The Mudge Pond Express" has been read several times...
Jerry introduced me to Sam up at Road America again, this year. THANKS Jerry!
ZOOOM
#19
Posted 17 October 2008 - 20:11
Sam Posey in his car at Indy
Sam finished 5th in 1972 at Indy. In 1969 at Kent, Washington, Sam Posey finished 3rd in a Champ car type race.
This photo was taken by Larry Neuzel. Forum member Rob Neuzel and his dad Larry were at Elkhart Lake this summer for the Vintage races. I introduced Rob to Sam Posey and he has since told me that meeting Sam was an unbelievable experience for him. He is helping me with the use of his dads pictures to show the forum members some of the cars Sam Posey has raced over the years. I also am going to show the forum members some pictures never seen before.
As Zoom has said besides being an Artist and writer and Designer and announcer and racer, Sam Posey is also a loving father and son and husband. Not to mention friend to many. I am hoping to be able to show all this on this site.
photo Larry Neuzel www.yesterdaysneuz.com
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#20
Posted 18 October 2008 - 01:33
#21
Posted 18 October 2008 - 02:07
Originally posted by JacnGille
Yes, Mudge Pond Express is one of a long list of required reading for any racing fan.
I have many memories of Sam's IMSA racing days. And his battles of wit with Bobby Unser.
An article here from a now defunct magazine .
A comical take by Robin Miller on a typical telecast with Sam and Bobby .
#22
Posted 18 October 2008 - 08:59
[wiping the tears from my eyes] Did Bobby U REALLY say those things on teevee?
Brilliant!
#23
Posted 18 October 2008 - 13:06
Sam, in my opinion, is a true Renaissance man, classically trained in the arts, and a very under-rated driver. His brief introductions to the F1 races on Speed channel are excellent.
Mudge Pond Express is not to be missed.
Jack.
#24
Posted 18 October 2008 - 13:35
Sam Posey at Indy with Danny Ongais
As everyone has said The Mudge Pond Express is a must read.
Here is a small sample from The Mudge Pond Express: http://members.tripo...gt4/lemans.html
Sam Posey has told me that the ribbing Bobby Unser was giving him in the announcing booth wasn't as mean as it sounded. That he held Bobby Unser in the utmost respect as a racer and considered him a very good friend. He always had fun with Bobby and looked forward to being in the booth with Bobby Unser and his friend Paul Page.
photo Larry Neuzel - www.yesterdaysneuz.com
#25
Posted 18 October 2008 - 14:20
Originally posted by Jack-the-Lad
Mudge Pond Express is not to be missed.
I keep hearing that, but I think the only copy I've ever seen was in the IMRRC in Watkins Glen. Are there any plans for a reprinting?
#26
Posted 18 October 2008 - 14:45
For several years in the 1990s I was on the press staff for the SCCA Trans Am series. Sam was part of the TV team with David Hobbs. There were many occasions when I would wile away the time between sessions, sitting in the back of a truck or in the press room shooting the breeze with Sam. The anecdotes are great, and as stated above, Sam is a true renaissance man. The conversation ranged over all manner of topics besides racing. In short, the conversations were, to me, a very pleasant time indeed. Not to mention dinner one night in a Japanese restaurant in Minneapolis, when Sam asked me to sit at the table with David Hobbs and himself. As you can well imagine, I essentially sat there and took in the incredible banter between the two. It was a hoot.
Sam was at Road America this past July and it was nice seeing the lines of fans who wanted to talk to him and to get his autograph. A truly nice guy.
Tom
#27
Posted 18 October 2008 - 19:01
Diane
#28
Posted 18 October 2008 - 19:03
Jack
#29
Posted 18 October 2008 - 19:47
Jack -the- Lad: You are Lucky to have such a great wife!
#30
Posted 19 October 2008 - 00:59
Now you and your wife need to find Sam's more recent model train book. I think it was called "On the Track," but can't find it right now so am unsure...
Frank
#31
Posted 19 October 2008 - 13:23
I may be wrong, but I think it is called "Playing With Trains". It definitely is not "On the Track"; that is too close to the late, lamented US racing magazine.Originally posted by fbarrett
Jack:
Now you and your wife need to find Sam's more recent model train book. I think it was called "On the Track," but can't find it right now so am unsure...
Frank
At any rate, at Road America this past July, there were as many people carrying copies of his train book to be autographed as there were people with other items. And of course, he signed them all and enjoyed every moment of it.
As I said above, a really nice guy!
Tom
#32
Posted 19 October 2008 - 13:31
I was working at Team Surtees when Sam and his right hand man, Jack McCormack, came over to set up a deal to run a TS8 in the US F5000 series. Sam and Jack were continually complaining about the cold and rotten hotel in which they staying and feeling sorry I asked the two of them over to my home for Sunday lunch, a bit of R and R and some home warmth.
After lunch we decided it would be a good idea to go and have a look at some of the local history and it was agreed that a visit to Bodiam Castle would pass the time before having afternoon tea at my parents house. Sam, Jack, my wife Julia and I all accordingly set off for Bodiam in the Vauxhall Viva Jack and Sam had hired for their stay in the UK.
On arriving at the castle with it's impressive ramparts and wide moat we did all the things tourists do, looked around, passed comment and generally admired the scene. At this stage Sam took it upon himself to plan how it would have been possible to storm the castle in days of old. To this end he charged full tilt up the bank in front of the walls, slipped in the mud and gracefully slid feet first up to his knees into the moat.
Now bear in mind this was February in England and the moat could not have been many degrees above freezing. Although Sam made light of it we were genuinely worried for him and so we 'squelched' off at speed for the warmth of tea and a good fire. On arrival at my parents house Sam, excusing himself, took off the trainers he was wearing and stuck his freezing feet as near as he dared to a gas fire in the dining room where tea had been set. Soon steam was appearing from the soles of Sam's socks followed by smoke as he singed his freezing feet back to warmth.
During that year I met Sam a few more times on subsequent trips to the US, when during one trip he bought me one of the best meals I have ever had in my life as repayment for the lunch and tea. I can also recall him standing on the beach at San Juan Capistrano outside Jack's home flying a kite with Jack's kids. This only hours after competing in the Questor GP. Sadly from then our paths never crossed although I would dearly like to meet him and Jack again as they were good fun and great company both in business and socially.
This is being written from the scene of the 'gas fire and socks' incident where Julia and I now live, and where recently I came across a letter written by Sam in 1971, on Champ Car paper and in lurid red ink, thanking my late mother for her hospitality and recalling the steaming socks. The fact my mother kept the letter says something of the impression Sam must have made. A truly great character and a really nice man.
#33
Posted 19 October 2008 - 13:50
Sam Posey in the Caldwell D7C at Elkhart Lake in 1968.
This car was built by Ray Caldwell. Brett Lunger also drove a Caldwell as Sam Posey's teammate in the CanAm. The team was called Autodynamics and Sam Posey finished 10th at this race at Elkhart Lake.
These cars were built in Marblehead, MA. Ray Caldwell and his group were trying to make an American built CanAm car that could compete with the McLaren and the Lola Teams.
This photo was taken by fellow forum member RA Historian. Tom Schultz has already told the forum members his feelings on Sam. I also feel the same about Sam Posey. "He is a great guy."
RJE: Very nice story.
photo Tom Schultz - copyright 2008 Tom Schultz.
#34
Posted 19 October 2008 - 14:20
Sam Posey at Riverside in 1968 in Lola T-160
Ray Caldwell and his Autodynamics group also ran this car for Sam Posey.
This is the car that Charles Fox had his moment in. It happened during his test drive, while writing the story for the article that was to appear in Car and Driver magazine. His test drive appeared in the June 1969 edition.
photo Phil Binks
#35
Posted 19 October 2008 - 14:34
Sam Posey at Elkhart Lake in 1972.
This car was called a Surtess TS11. The team was run by Fred Carrillo and Doug Champlin in this race they finished a fine 2nd at Elkhart Lake. They called this team Champ Carr Inc. Sam's sponsor was Sam Winston of Winston Delta Tire Company. The race at Elkhart Lake was won by Graham McRae.
In 1972 Sam Posey would go on to finish 2nd overall in the series Championship. Graham McRae was the 1972 series Champion.
Sam Posey's team also ran this car in the Tasman series. Sam's feelings on going to the Tasman series having never been to any of the tracks was that the competitors weren't given enough time to figure out the gearing or handling. You were at a very big disadvantage running against others who knew the exact setup they needed for each track. The fans were very nice and he wished they would have been allowed more practice time to prepare for the different events.
photo Tom Schultz - copyright 2008 Tom Schultz.
#36
Posted 19 October 2008 - 14:57
Sam Posey in the Talon MR1
This is in practice at Elkhart Lake in 1974. Sam has just suffered an engine faliure. Jon Woodner was Sam Posey's teammate on this team run by Jack McCormack. The team was called McCormack Racing. His teammate Jon Woodner would finish 6th at Elkhart Lake in his Talon MR1. Race at Elkhart in 1974 was won by Mario Andretti.
Sam Posey had finished a fine 5th in his Talon MR1 at Watkins Glen in the race held before this one.
Sam Posey felt that this car designed by Graham McRae was the equal to the Lola T-332. He has told me that the handling was Fantastic. Their problem was that they had many engine failures during the season and the car never was able to show it's full potential.
photo Tom Schultz - copyright 2008 Tom Schultz
#37
Posted 19 October 2008 - 15:22
Originally posted by fbarrett
Jack:
Now you and your wife need to find Sam's more recent model train book. I think it was called "On the Track," but can't find it right now so am unsure...
Frank
It was called "Playing with Trains: A Passion Beyond Scale." While it's nominally about Sam building a model train layout for/with his son, it's really much more, and in many ways is a more personal book than "Mudge Pond." During the period while Sam was building the layout (and writing this book) he was diagnosed with Parkinson's, and he discusses his reaction in some detail.
It's now out in paperback, from Amazon and the usual sources. I'd recommend it very highly, and have been giving it as a gift on occasion.
Cynic
#38
Posted 19 October 2008 - 16:00
#39
Posted 19 October 2008 - 16:07
Cynic: Sam Posey has a paper back version of his book "Playing with Trains." In this version he has added many pictures of the various train layouts and it is a must read for any fan of model trains.
http://www.randomhou...0812971262.html
Sam Posey has just finished narrating along with Jim Hall a new CanAm DVD called Can-Am: The Speed Odyssey. This DVD is by Ardennes Productions. Sam says that the footage is very good and they have lots of archive footage from the CanAm and he knows people are going to enjoy this DVD.
http://speedtvbooks....ngCartID=443509
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#40
Posted 19 October 2008 - 21:42
Originally posted by Alan Cox
You may be interested, Jerry, to see Sam's Surtees as being currently raced in historics in Europe
Alan,
I'd like to elaborate on your comment. The TS11 in the photo is 1 of 2 and possibly 3 cars (or tubs) that CHAMPCARR owned. I own the TS11 driven at Riverside and the Tasman series. In fact, I had dinner last week with the former racer who in 1974, built the car you show using a tub from CHAMPCARR and parts from my car. There are also several other TS11 rumors surfacing (i.e. a Posey/Carrillo lawsuit and Jack McCormack selling cars or parts that he did not own) all of which I have not yet verified. Zeke Justice sold the third car in the 1980's. All 3 TS11's had chassis plates. I have recently uncovered more info and photos about the car in the U.K. that may be of interest to the current owner.
#41
Posted 20 October 2008 - 07:12
#42
Posted 20 October 2008 - 15:21
#43
Posted 20 October 2008 - 17:44
New Posey Dodge G5
Sam Posey has authorized this new Posey G5 Dodge be produced to commemorate his 1970 TransAm car. It is being made by Group Five of Mesa, Arizona. Sam will be at the 2008 SEMA show in LasVegas at the LasVegas Convention Center. The show is from Tuesday Nov. 4th - Friday Nov. 7th. their booth is #23679. Sam Posey will be greeting fans there. Sam Posey hopes this new car does well. Group 5 have pledged a portion of the proceeds of the sale of the cars to Parkinsons Research. Something Sam Posey really appreciates.
http://www.g5challenger.com/
Earlier it was mention that Sam Posey was involved in a law suit with Jack McCormack or Fred Carrillo. This isn't true. Sam has just had Jack McCormack stay with him as a guest. Fred Carrillo is an old dear friend of Sam's.
Dennis McCormack who worked on Sam's F-5000 car in the day is now involved with the "Jetta TDI Cup Series".
#44
Posted 21 October 2008 - 00:41
#45
Posted 21 October 2008 - 15:27
Sam Posey's son John Posey alongside his grandmother Mary Moore and Sam
Sam Posey's mother Mary Moore is the one who taught Sam how to drive. Mary, always was there to support Sam in his racing and always encouraged Sam to do his best in racing. Mary is Legendary for her Famous Ice Tea at the Track.
photo Posey Family collection - scanned for site Shari Marks
#46
Posted 21 October 2008 - 15:32
John Posey and his sister Judy Posey and their dad Sam
Sam Posey getting ready to take the Family Formula Ford out
This was from a test running of the family Formula Ford. It is a Crossle type of Formula Ford. Sam enjoys watching John and Judy run the car and he isn't against a little practice himself.
photo Posey Family collection - scanned for site Shari Marks
#47
Posted 22 October 2008 - 02:00
Sam qualified 7th and finished the race 5th
#48
Posted 22 October 2008 - 12:45
#49
Posted 22 October 2008 - 13:06
Sam Posey by his TransAm car
This car was run by Ray Caldwell's Autodynamics Team in 1970. The late Peter Hutchinson was the person at Chrysler Corporation who had faith in Ray Caldwell and Sam Posey and was very instrumental in them securing the Chrysler deal.
Sam's best finishes were a 3rd at Lime Rock, a 3rd at Elkhart Lake and 3rd at Kent, Washington for a 4th overall in the series standings.
The engine in the car was a destroked 340 cubic inch engine, putting out about 460 horsepower. This engine was built by Keith Black engines.
Jack McCormack was the crew chief on this car. Ray Caldwell started out as the team manager and around mid season Carroll Smith came on board to help the team..
This picture is from the Chryslers at Carlisle meet held in July of 2005.
Here are more photos of Sam Posey and Ray Caldwell and Jack McCormack:
http://www.challenge.../sam_posey.html
photo The Challenger T/A Registry Collection - Courtesy Barry Washington
#50
Posted 22 October 2008 - 20:43
Sam Posey and Tony Adamowicz and Rob and Larry Neuzel
Rob Neuzel is who we have to thank for putting up his dad Larry Neuzel's great pictures of Sam Posey at Indy.
photo Jerry Entin