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[pRy]

It just gets better, this guy is a clueless clown.

A couple of laps into this afternoons GP, ITV switched to Ted Kravitz in the pitlane who had news of the protestor. Fair enough, expected to hear that he had been removed from the circuit.

But no... Ted had more for us.. Ted had spoken to the bloke personally a few minutes earlier and decided to list the exact reasons why the protestor ran onto the track, including a mention of King Carlos and a trade fair or something occuring in Spain together with an protest organisation or something along those lines.

But it gets better, not only had he given the protestor air time, but he said he was glad it wasn't as bad as Madrid!

James Allen had to practically appologise for what Ted had just said, as Ted effectively gave a protestor a voice to millions of viewers, which could encourage future protestors!

Hillarious. Fire the guy, really.

[Vitesse2]

Bet they cut it from the repeat showings ....

You're right, it was a bloody stupid thing to do. Not to mention tasteless.

Equally, the Spanish TV director should have ignored it, since the race hadn't yet started, and only shown the footage if it had caused the start to be aborted. BBC wouldn't have shown it live and would have invoked their "streaker rule", I'm sure.

[roadie]

still like him better than james allen though. he has a much more natural style.

[balaclava]

Originally posted by Vitesse2
Bet they cut it from the repeat showings ....

You're right, it was a bloody stupid thing to do. Not to mention tasteless.

Equally, the Spanish TV director should have ignored it, since the race hadn't yet started, and only shown the footage if it had caused the start to be aborted. BBC wouldn't have shown it live and would have invoked their "streaker rule", I'm sure.

Excuse me, but last year a mad priest dressed like an elf with his little banner full of biblical quotes jumped into Silverstone running through the cars and the tv aired the thing. What are you on?

[Bumper]

Ted is totally clueless and even more irritating than James Allen. Why don't they have Ted kicked out, get James Allen back into the pitlane where he served well and let Brundle get on with the commentating, with Eddie Irvine as his co-host. Problem solved

[FredF1]

Originally posted by balaclava


Excuse me, but last year a mad priest dressed like an elf with his little banner full of biblical quotes jumped into Silverstone running through the cars and the tv aired the thing. What are you on?

Exactly.

What was even better was, as James Allen was going on about security being lax and needed tightening up in Spain, he started trailing off as he realised that Silverstone last year was 'worse' and happened in good old Blighty." ****.

On a side note - It's pretty easy to get onto the start/finish straight at Barcelona. I did it two years ago - granted the race was over at the time but still.

[Arrow]

What about james allen and that over grown goose lousie goodman?
Id love to know exactly who from ITV shes banging.Shes the most useless thing ive ever seen on my TV.

[RDM]

Sack the lot of them and give their collective wages to Martin. (perhaps with the exception of
the (rather camp) Tony Jardine, who's pink-shirted words of wisdom occasionally carry some purpose).

And that w*nker Rosenthal in a bandana! How embarassing was that!


Wonder if ITV are planning to release a "Martin's Grid-walks" DVD?

[Cypher]

Is it realistic to expect that we'd never find out what the guy was on about if Kravitz hadn't told us? I don't think it is as it's going to get into the news stories we will read anyway.

[zfh10]

The race was so BORING Ted was shouting: "IS MONTOYA GOING TO CHANGE THE ANGLE ON HIS FRONT WING? IS HE? THIS IS SO EXCITING!"

God that was dull. You know there is something wrong with F1 when this was the most exciting thing he had to say all race.

[Ross Stonefeld]

Go watch NASCAR

[UkF1]

Must admit I couldn't belive it when Kravitz wen't and told the World exactly what the **** was trying to achive

Another good tackle by the marshalls though

[ferrari_forever]

Toss up between good old Kravitz and James Allan who is worst.

Get Ben Edwards in, he already works for ITV and knows his stuff.

James Allan's quick backpeddling of a possible conspiracy theory about when Rubens dropped his pace of when there was a problem with MS's car was excrutiating today. :

[VAR1016]

Originally posted by roadie
still like him better than james allen though. he has a much more natural style.

I agree. In addition, he certanly appears to be enthusiastic and manages this without shouting.

I see that Rosenthal managed to mention kickball again.

Pathetic.

PdeRL

[Sakae]

Originally posted by Arrow
What about james allen and that over grown goose lousie goodman?
Id love to know exactly who from ITV shes banging.Shes the most useless thing ive ever seen on my TV.

Nasty as it is, I had similar thoughts several years ago...

[pRy]

Yeah I agree, toss out Ted and James, get Ben Edwards in.

[Vitesse2]

Originally posted by balaclava


Excuse me, but last year a mad priest dressed like an elf with his little banner full of biblical quotes jumped into Silverstone running through the cars and the tv aired the thing. What are you on?

Did you actually read my post? Read my words and think about what they mean. Then you should consider that the Silverstone incident - like the previous nutter at Hockenheim - happened during the race. I specifically said this one should be ignored unless the race was delayed. And UK coverage is ITV, not BBC (unfortunately ) So what are you on? Or is your balaclava on back to front, thus impeding your vision?

[balaclava]

Originally posted by Vitesse2

Did you actually read my post? Read my words and think about what they mean. Then you should consider that the Silverstone incident - like the previous nutter at Hockenheim - happened during the race. I specifically said this one should be ignored unless the race was delayed. And UK coverage is ITV, not BBC (unfortunately ) So what are you on? Or is your balaclava on back to front, thus impeding your vision?

There were cars running in the warmup, and was an important incident of the event. No need to CENSURE like a frigging dictator when something goes wrong. And who cares what should've done the BBC, its not like the BBC is the role model of the TV's of the world.

[Pinguin]

One has to indeed wonder if Mr. Ted Kravitz is an accomplice to the nutter who intruded the track if he could interview him afterwards.

However, as a TV viewer I/we want to see drama & controversy! And that's just what we got!. It may not have pleased some people from the ITV management, but it didn't irritate any enthusiastic viewers probably.

[Dudley]

Originally posted by balaclava


Excuse me, but last year a mad priest dressed like an elf with his little banner full of biblical quotes jumped into Silverstone running through the cars and the tv aired the thing. What are you on?

And if the bbc covered the british gp you might have a point.

[Vitesse2]

Originally posted by balaclava


There were cars running in the warmup, and was an important incident of the event.

No it wasn't. The incident was actually very minor, had no effect on the start (which was obviously the guy's intention) and deserved no coverage whatsoever - certainly not live. The marshals dealt with it very effectively and almost effortlessly: they should be congratulated for their efficiency IMHO. Kravitz' comments were totally OTT and uncalled for. I hope ITV throw the book at him.

Originally posted by balaclava
No need to CENSURE like a frigging dictator when something goes wrong.

That's "censor" - censure is something completely different. That's not censorship anyway - I would define it as denying an anarchist the oxygen of publicity. He's been seen live by X hundred million people: whether or not you agree with what he says, his views will be publicised all over the world in tomorrow's press. And every time something like this happens, some other nutter will say to himself "Cor! I could do that!" So, if you want every major sporting event under a clamp of security, go right ahead ...

Originally posted by balaclava
And who cares what should've done the BBC, its not like the BBC is the role model of the TV's of the world.

Actually, it is. The BBC is the classical model of a public service broadcaster.

[100cc]

Originally posted by UkF1
Must admit I couldn't belive it when Kravitz wen't and told the World exactly what the **** was trying to achive

The thing is people are complaining that he told the viewers what the message was. He gave the viewers pretty much what they wanted to know. I sure as hell listened to him when he said what the guy was going on about.

If he didnt say what he was running on the track for there would be a thread saying "what was that moron doing?"... oh wait we do have one like that. Only if kravitz didnt tell us we'd be going huh?!? yeah what was that guy there for.

[FredF1]

Originally posted by ferrari_forever
Toss up between good old Kravitz and James Allan who is worst.

Get Ben Edwards in, he already works for ITV and knows his stuff.

James Allan's quick backpeddling of a possible conspiracy theory about when Rubens dropped his pace of when there was a problem with MS's car was excrutiating today. :

And Heidfeld's Jordan retiring looked suspiciously like an engine failure to me - the smoke billowing out of the bank of cylinders. But James and Martin stated that "It's officially a gearbox problem according to Jordan". Yet, when any other team has an engine failure, we get told "It's an engine failure." Something fishy there.

[zfh10]

Originally posted by FredF1
And Heidfeld's Jordan retiring looked suspiciously like an engine failure to me - the smoke billowing out of the bank of cylinders. But James and Martin stated that "It's officially a gearbox problem according to Jordan". Yet, when any other team has an engine failure, we get told "It's an engine failure." Something fishy there.

I noticed that too

[babbel]

Originally posted by FredF1



And Heidfeld's Jordan retiring looked suspiciously like an engine failure to me - the smoke billowing out of the bank of cylinders. But James and Martin stated that "It's officially a gearbox problem according to Jordan". Yet, when any other team has an engine failure, we get told "It's an engine failure." Something fishy there.

According to Jordan it *was* a gearbox failure. Even Heidfeld himself said he lost hydrolics and gears.

[VAR1016]

Originally posted by babbel


According to Jordan it *was* a gearbox failure. Even Heidfeld himself said he lost hydrolics and gears.

It looked like hydraulic oil smoke to me - probably a leaking hose or pipe. Engine failures always look different.

PdeRL

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[NeilB]

I have to say that Ted is very observant and is on the ball, look at the way he picked up on JPM's brake trouble at the first pitstop, and was brushed off by Brundle. Yet what did JPM retire with? Brake trouble. James Allen never did that while he was in the pit lane, all we got was "The fuel nozzle was in for 10.7 seconds. Cya in the next pit stop for anothing timing of the fuel"

[Garagiste]

Ted was a bit daft on explaining the protesters cause, but generally he's OK, as others have said, he's a lot less annoying than James Allen.
I loved what he said in Australia after the line "aint no prizes for second place" in Louise's "song":
"Actually there IS a prize for second place, it's eight points and a bg trophy"

[kenjafield]

The thing with Kravitz though is that every minor thing is a potential disaster. Every small problem (like MS' exhaust) is blown up by him so that we believe that MS's car was about to explode into fragments. Everything is a possible retirement to him, so no congrats to him on spotting Montoya's brakes. If Montoya came in scratching his nose Kravitz would be telling the world that he had a fatal brain tumour or some such thing.

[Vitesse2]

It would appear the "protestor" was some sort of serial nutter, well known to the Spanish police. Sounds like he's a sort of one-man self-publicising agitprop:

http://www.atlasf1.c...p/id/5086/.html

Even less reason for Kravitz to mention it then ...

And well done Atlas for avoiding giving any details of his "cause"

[mikedeering]

Originally posted by kenjafield
The thing with Kravitz though is that every minor thing is a potential disaster. Every small problem (like MS' exhaust) is blown up by him so that we believe that MS's car was about to explode into fragments. Everything is a possible retirement to him, so no congrats to him on spotting Montoya's brakes. If Montoya came in scratching his nose Kravitz would be telling the world that he had a fatal brain tumour or some such thing.

I think Ted just follows ITV standard line on incidents - in an attempt to inject excitement into proceedings they talk up every trivial event.

[FredF1]

Originally posted by mikedeering


I think Ted just follows ITV standard line on incidents - in an attempt to inject excitement into proceedings they talk up every trivial event.

Exactly.

The whole hyping of JPM vs MS at the first corner had me shouting abuse at the tv. As a Williams fan - I was actually glad that JPM made a bad start as it put an end to Allen's bullshit.

That and the utter and total hype about Button. I like JB and am glad to see him do well but to hear ITV go on about him you'd think he was leading the world championship or something.

[Dalton007]

I'm a big Button fan, but ITV!!!! Stop hyping him up otherwise people just get sick of it all; he hasn't won a race yet!

[Haribo]

At least they didn't interview his dad this time...

[Crazy Canuck]

Was I the only one who noticed that the intruder's sign was backwords? He had the written part against his body!! That was some pretty bad planning What and idiot.


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[PLAYLIFE]

Originally posted by Crazy Canuck
Was I the only one who noticed that the intruder's sign was backwords? He had the written part against his body!! That was some pretty bad planning What and idiot.


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That was the first thing I noticed, I was trying to read the sign but obviously couldn't

[madmac]

Yeah teddy was wrong to give air time to the protester (but He's still better than James Allen).

Totally off the topic, is Jim rosentwat that really annoy's me, have you noticed that when he has to pronounce a non British name he adopts some sort of half arsed attempt at an Italian/South American sounding voice. He did it on Sunday while talk to Flav, I nearly threw up.

[FredF1]

Not forgetting Ted's other classic during Saturday qualifying.

"With me is golfer Seve Ballesteros. Seve, what do you think of Fernando Alonso?"


"Don't know, I've never met him."

[Dudley]

Originally posted by kenjafield
If Montoya came in scratching his nose Kravitz would be telling the world that he had a fatal brain tumour or some such thing.

Shame Kravitz doesn't commentate on rallying, Burns could have used that help.

Was I the only one who noticed that the intruder's sign was backwords? He had the written part against his body!! That was some pretty bad planning What and idiot.

Brundle did.

[Crazy Canuck]

Originally posted by Dudley
Brundle did.

I don't get ITV feed, only Speed Channel

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[VAR1016]

Originally posted by Dudley


Shame Kravitz doesn't commentate on rallying, Burns could have used that help.

Bad taste.

PdeRL

[Vitesse2]

Originally posted by VAR1016



Bad taste.

PdeRL

Hear hear. Definitely uncalled for.