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#1 Hugo Boecker

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Posted 27 June 2004 - 22:42

In the sixties Matra contested several national hillclimbs with theire F1/2/3 cars. One of theese was the Course de Cote de Chamrousse near Grenoble. I have some years when it tookplace some dates and some winners. But I don't know much of it.

02.09.1962 but noting more, I think this was the first edition
01.09.1963 but noting more
in this edition the young french driver Danielo MARTINO died in an accident - any infos?
30.08.1964 Winner: Vinatier, Jean Alpine F2 11:17,0
01.08.1965 Winner: Beltoise, Jean Pierre Martra Ford MS5 -F3
31.07.1966 Winner: Servoz Gavin, Jonny Marta F3 07:58,0
27.08.1967 Winner: Servoz Gavin, Jonny Matra-Cosworth MS7 F2 08:29,2
27.07.1969 Winner: Beltoise, Jean Pierre Matra Cosworth 7 F2 08:04,5
1970 but noting more
1971 but noting more
1973 but noting more
1975 but noting more


Who can add further informations?
Were did it took place exactly?
Howmany editions took place ?

Thanks in advance

so long Hugo Bocker

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#2 Vitesse2

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Posted 27 June 2004 - 22:59

Some more dates for you, all from Yellow Book calendars:

24-25 July 1971
30 July 1972
28-29 July 1973
19-20 July 1975
17-18 July 1976
17 July 1977

etc?

I don't have the 1970, 1974 or any post-1977 Yellow Books, so there may be more to find.

#3 starlet

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Posted 28 June 2004 - 12:01

The only piece of information which I can supply, is that it will be the 29th edition, this year.

#4 HEROS

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Posted 28 June 2004 - 13:29

Hello Hugo,

I hope I can help you with this results :

25-26.07.1970 : Winner Hervé Bayard Tecno F2 8'16''7

24-25.07.1971 : Winner Jimmy Mieusset Pygmée MDB 15 7'55''4

29-30.07.1972 : Winner Jimmy Mieusset March 722 7'44''0

28-29.07.1973 : Winner Jimmy Mieusset March 732 7'37''47

I'm looking for other results but I'm not sure if I have one of them.

:cool:

#5 GIGLEUX

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Posted 28 June 2004 - 19:58

Chamrousse 20/07/1975:
1.Mieusset March-BMW 4.13.19
2.Pignard March 75S 4.21.31
3.Lachaud Chevron B.25 4.25.49

#6 jarama

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Posted 28 June 2004 - 22:12

Hugo, here is what I've found on the Chamrousse HC:



6e Course de Côte de Chamrousse

27th August '67

Scratch:
1) Johnny Servoz-Gavin, Matra (F-2), 8'29"2 @ 122+ kmh
2) Jean Rolland, Alfa Romeo 33 (Proto?), 8'50"1
3) Robert Buchet, Porsche 906 Carrera 6 (Sport), 8'59"1
4) Pierre Maublanc, Abarth 2000 OT (Proto), 9'05"0
5) Clément, Porsche 906 Carrera 6 (Sport), 9'06"2
6) Faure, Jefa (F-2), 9'15"3
7) Jean Max, Grac (F-France), 9'29"2
8) Gérard Larrousse, Alpine-Renault A110 1150 (GT), 9'49"3
9) Robert Buchet, Porsche 911S (GT), 9'51"2
10) Canin, Abarth 1300 (Proto?), 9'57"8

Touring & Specials:
1), Pascal? Gaban, Porsche 911
2), Massoneri, Ford Shelby
3), Cuynet, BMC Mini Cooper
4), Sylvain Garant, Porsche 911

Standard Touring:
1) Guy Chasseuil, Ford Mustang
2) Henri Gréder, Chevrolet Camaro


7e Course de Côte de Chamrousse (17.2 km)

28th July '68

Scratch:
1) Pierre Maublanc, Abarth 2000 (Proto?), 8'45"0 @ 117.943 kmh
2) Faure, Jefa (F-2?), 8'53"7
3) Daniel Rouveyran, Abarth 2000 (Proto?), 8'55"8
4) Alain? Finkel, Porsche 906 Carrera 6 (Sport), 9'00"1
5) Clément, Porsche 906 Carrera 6 (Sport), 9'11"6
6) André? Wicky, Porsche 910 (Proto?), 9'20"1
7) Gérard Larrousse, Alpine-Renault A110 1300 (GT), 9'22"0

GT, Touring & Specials:
1) Larrousse
2) Henri Balas, Porsche 911T, 9'38"7
3) CLaude Ballot-Léna, Porsche 911T, 9'46"0

Standard Touring:
1) Henri Gréder, Chevrolet Camaro, 10'32"0
2) Henri Chemin, Ford Mustang, 10'32"1


8e Course de Côte de Chamrousse (17.2 km)

27th July '69

Scratch:
1) Jean-Pierre Beltoise, Matra (F-2), 8'04"05 @ 125.891 kmh
2) Daniel Rouveyran, Tecno (F-2), 8'31"8
3) Jean Vinatier, Alpine-Renault 3-l. (Proto?), 8'32"3
4) Pierre Maublanc, Grac BMW (F-2?), 8'39"4
5) Mario Casoni, Alfa Romeo 33 (Proto?), 8'40"5

Group 3:
1) Jean-Pierre Hanrioud, Ferrari 275 GTB


9e Course de Côte de Chamrousse

26th July '70

Scratch:
1) Hervé Bayard, Tecno (F-2)


10e Course de Côte de Chamrousse (17.2 km)

25th July '71

198 starters

Scratch:
1) #215, Jimmy Mieusset, Pygmée MDB15 Cosworth 1800 FVC (F-2), 7'55"4
2) Gérard Larrousse, Chevron B19 (Groups 5, 6 & 7), 8'00"0
3) Richard Daniel, Pygmée MDB12 Cosworth 1800 FVC (F-2), 8'01"07
4) Michel Roussin, Pygmée MDB15 Cosworth 1800 FVC (F-2), 8'11"3
5) Staïano, Tecno Cosworth 1800 FVC (F-2), 8'16"0
6) Claude Ballot-Léna, Porsche 908/2 (Groups 5, 6 & 7), 8'28"0
7) Claude Swietlik, Grac MT14B Cosworth 1800 FVC (Group 5, 6 & 7), 8'27"0

Group 1:
1) Henri Chemin, Chrysler Hemicuda

Group 2:
1) Dirand, BMW 2002 ti

Group 3:
1) Henri Balas, Porsche 911S

Group 4:
1) Buzzi, Alpine-Renault A110 1600S


11e Course de Côte de Chamrousse

30th July '72

Scratch:
1) #231, Jimmy Mieusset, March 722 (Group 8), 7'44"0
2) #229, Hervé Bayard, Surtees TS8 Cosworth DFV (Group 8), 7'54"5
3) Pierre Maublanc, Chevron B20 (Group 8), 7'54"9


12e Course de Côte de Chamrousse

29th July '73

Scratch:
1) Jimmy Mieusset, March (F-2), 7'37"47 @ 135.353 kmh
2) Pierre Maublanc, Chevron (F-2), 7'45"45
3) Martin, McLaren (F-2), 7'49"88


13e Course de Côte de Chamrousse

?th July '74

Scratch:
1) Jimmy Mieusset, March BMW, 7'38"27
2) Lachaud, Chevron B27, 7'52"46
3) Fred Stalder, Lola T292, 7'53"16
4) Haisnault, March BMW, 8'00"13
5) Damaizin, Chevron B25, 8'03"69
6) Michel Pignard, Cesca Simca, 8'09"34
7) Rolland, BBM Simca, 8'11"65
8) Moisson, BBM Simca, 8'22"50
9) Guy Fréquelin, BBM Simca, 8'29"87
10) Xavier Lapeyre, Grac Simca, 8'31"87


14e Course de Côte de Chamrousse

20th July '75

Scratch:
1) Jimmy Mieusset, March BMW, 4'13"19
2) Michel Pignard, March 75S, 4'21"31
3) Lachaud, Chevron B25, 4'25"49




Carles.

#7 fines

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Posted 29 June 2004 - 08:27

These French hillclimb specials are always fascinating - e.g. never heard of a BMW-engined GRAC before!

#8 Hugo Boecker

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Posted 29 June 2004 - 08:49

Originally posted by fines
These French hillclimb specials are always fascinating - e.g. never heard of a BMW-engined GRAC before!


In 1969 Maublanc scored 5 first, 3 second and 1 third places in French Hillclimbs with a Grac BMW.
He won at St Baume, Coudon, Pin, Cacharat and Treffort and besides this Lafosse won at Limouches.
The Grac-BMW was a 1.8l Monoposto.

so long

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#9 RAP

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Posted 29 June 2004 - 08:59

1976 M Montmayeur (March 752 BMW 4'22.17"
1977 Jimmy Mieusset (Martini Mk22 BMW) 4'11.72"
Source http://digilander.li...ecars/Years.htm
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#10 Hugo Boecker

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Posted 29 June 2004 - 11:50

First I want to thank all who helped in this tread.

I,ve found a french site with the history from 1992 onwards. It seems that 1977 was the last edition and the race was restarted in 1992 This lead to the 29th edition in 2004.

Les VAINQUEURS
Les TEMPS SCRATCH à BATTRE
2003 BOUVIER 2'10''937 REYNARD 91D
2002 CHAMBEROD 2'07''451 REYNARD 92D
2001 CHAMBEROD 2’07’’240 REYNARD 92D
2000 CHAMBEROD 2'28''914 REYNARD 92D
1999 CHAMBEROD 2'09''786 REYNARD 93
1998 BOCCARD 2'11''950 MARTINI MK69
1997 BOCCARD 2'11''784 MARTINI MK 69
1996 BOCCARD 2'12''724 MARTINI MK69
1995 DEBIAS 3'02'' * MARTINI MK58B
1994 BOCCARD 2'20''423 MARTINI MK56
1993 CHAMBEROD 2'22''423 TOJSC 206
1992 CHAMBEROD 2'20''014 TOJSC 206


http://www.chamrousse.fr.st/



What is with 1962 - 1963 ?

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#11 GIGLEUX

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Posted 29 June 2004 - 19:08

1962:
1.Schiller Porsche 718 F1 Filipinetti 11.17.0
2.Siffert Lotus Junior Filipinetti 11.39.1
3.Oreiller Ferrari 250GT 11.43.0
4.Wicky Cooper-Climax F1 11.59.3
5.Berney Ferrari 250GT 12.02.0

Tourisme category: 1. Mauro Bianchi Fiat-Abarth 850TC
Sport experimental: G.Laureau René-Bonnet Renault

1963:
The event was disrupted by torrential rain and spectators on the road.
1.Brochaus Porsche Carrera 2000
Sport: R.Fraissinet Porsche RS60
Tourisme:
1.Rolland Alfa-Romeo 2600
2.Consten Jaguar Mk2
3.Maublanc Morris-Cooper
4.Greder Ford Galaxie

#12 Hugo Boecker

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Posted 30 June 2004 - 08:10

Originally posted by GIGLEUX
1962:
1.Schiller Porsche 718 F1 Filipinetti 11.17.0
2.Siffert Lotus Junior Filipinetti 11.39.1
3.Oreiller Ferrari 250GT 11.43.0
4.Wicky Cooper-Climax F1 11.59.3
5.Berney Ferrari 250GT 12.02.0

Tourisme category: 1. Mauro Bianchi Fiat-Abarth 850TC
Sport experimental: G.Laureau René-Bonnet Renault

1963:
The event was disrupted by torrential rain and spectators on the road.
1.Brochaus Porsche Carrera 2000
Sport: R.Fraissinet Porsche RS60
Tourisme:
1.Rolland Alfa-Romeo 2600
2.Consten Jaguar Mk2
3.Maublanc Morris-Cooper
4.Greder Ford Galaxie


As I've read in Ed Heuvink's Scuderia Filipinetti and some Siffert books Jo Siffert won the 1962 event in a Lotus-BRM 24. Schiller won his class with the Porsche 718 at Marchairuz and Col de la Faucille. In those days F1 cars startet very often in hillclimbs. I think Trintigant was a regular on French hills, still winning with a BRM in 1964.

What happend during the 1963 edition. Are there any more informations ? Was Martino killed in a crash due to rain or spectators ?

How long was the track from 1962 -1977. I have 17.2 Km is this correct ?

looking forward tzo your answers.

so long
Hugo Boecker

#13 Hugo Boecker

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Posted 30 June 2004 - 10:30

Originally posted by fines
These French hillclimb specials are always fascinating - e.g. never heard of a BMW-engined GRAC before!


Here is a picture of Maublanc wit his Grac-BMW at the 1969 St.Antonin Hill-Climb were he came second.

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