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#1 Gebmeister

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 18:02

Just seen the Mens Olympic Marathon. The leader got pushed off the road by a spectator.

I am 110% positive its the guy who ran up Hangar Straight at Silverstone last year

Same Irish Dude

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#2 Suzy

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 18:05

It's him!! http://news.bbc.co.u...ics/3610598.stm

#3 Runner

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 18:06

That was exactly my reaction - same guy.

I expect that Bernie will be blaming the BRDC.

#4 Alapan

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 18:06

It does look like him. How did he get to go to Greece?

#5 100cc

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 18:11

alapan: aeroplane tickets are sold to many people.... not just given out to a select few. ;)

#6 Amrl

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 18:14

Ha! I knew it was the same guy. I hope they lock him up for good this time.

#7 Enkei

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 18:14

Idiot

#8 eoin

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 18:21

:|

Yup I believe it is the same guy. He used to live a few minutes from where I live. The guy is a complete nut and should be locked away.

#9 HBoss

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 18:27

Originally posted by 100cc
alapan: aeroplane tickets are sold to many people.... not just given out to a select few. ;)


The British shouold do to him what they do to the hooligans, not let him get out of the country.

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 19:30

Originally posted by HBoss


The British shouold do to him what they do to the hooligans, not let him get out of the country.


Damn right. I was at Silverstone last year and was watching the marathon live today.

Hugely upsetting, de Lima was getting caught and I think Baldini (also World Champion) would have caught him, but that's hardly the point. de Lima's reaction as he crossed the line was amazing, even as a Brit I was willing John Brown not to catch him.

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 19:33

Originally posted by Runner

I expect that Bernie will be blaming the BRDC.


Hehe!

I must say I feel really sorry for that Brazilian dude who was leading the race. His race was ruined by this moron. :evil:

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 19:35

Last June police at the Derby in Epsom tackled Horan moments before he was about to run onto the racetrack with a placard. He was later released without charge.

After the Derby incident police claimed to have circulated Horan's detainls to other forces amid fears that would attempt to disrupt other sporting events, in particular the Royal Ascot meeting.

In view of the above and the security surrounding the Games, its amazing that he slipped through so may security nets. Its not like the man is hard to spot.

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 20:08

If I was in second depending on how strong I felt and how far he was in front if I didn't think I could've beaten him I would give him the Gold medal. Well put it like this how can the guy stand up there and accept it knowing that the rightful winner was pushed into the crowd by that asshole ?
I hope the Irish guy got beaten to a pulp by someone in the crowd.

#14 Bluesmoke

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 20:32

How is he still a priest after what happened last year? What a ****ing idiot! :mad:

#15 ruther

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 20:34

I thought I would hear brazilian anthem again today after a historical win and that idiot ruined all...

#16 Ben

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 20:36

Originally posted by Corners
If I was in second depending on how strong I felt and how far he was in front if I didn't think I could've beaten him I would give him the Gold medal. Well put it like this how can the guy stand up there and accept it knowing that the rightful winner was pushed into the crowd by that asshole ?
I hope the Irish guy got beaten to a pulp by someone in the crowd.


Unfortunately you can't do this. It's the same as the Russian who was taken out of the 100M hurdles by Perdita Felicien. It's harsh but there's no other way.

Baldini would have had no idea what had happened until after the finish. He was catching him anyway, and to say he isn't the 'rightful winner' does a disservice to a man who was clearly the strongest in the race and deserved his victory.

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#17 ruther

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 20:40

Originally posted by Ben

Baldini would have had no idea what had happened until after the finish. He was catching him anyway, and to say he isn't the 'rightful winner' does a disservice to a man who was clearly the strongest in the race and deserved his victory.


Cordeiro was clearly the strongest in the race until that 'accident'. Baldini has nothing to do with that however.

#18 Suzy

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 21:05

Originally posted by Bluesmoke
How is he still a priest after what happened last year? What a ****ing idiot! :mad:


He's no longer a priest. He was "defrocked" by the church some years ago but still calls himself Father Neil Horan.

#19 Bluesmoke

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 21:06

Originally posted by Ben


Unfortunately you can't do this. It's the same as the Russian who was taken out of the 100M hurdles by Perdita Felicien. It's harsh but there's no other way.

Baldini would have had no idea what had happened until after the finish. He was catching him anyway, and to say he isn't the 'rightful winner' does a disservice to a man who was clearly the strongest in the race and deserved his victory.

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This is different. That Russian woman was not leading and she was not interupted by a spectator. In hurdles, things like that happen.

Lima was clearly going to win this one. I've done a 5km run before and it's all in how you pace your breathing. A lapse in concentration will cost you dearly unless you slow your pace to resume your proper breathing.

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 21:14

Originally posted by Bluesmoke


This is different. That Russian woman was not leading and she was not interupted by a spectator. In hurdles, things like that happen.

Lima was clearly going to win this one. I've done a 5km run before and it's all in how you pace your breathing. A lapse in concentration will cost you dearly unless you slow your pace to resume your proper breathing.


There was no way he was going to win.

This is the problem with horans latest twattishness hes managed to devalue the efforts of three runners. The Winner who would most likely have won anyway ( he had taken 10 secs out of Lima's lead already and looked fresher and stronger ) Now he has Brazilians saying well you wouldn't have actually... The second place guy ( now I believe that would have been very close) and of course Lima himself.

What Horan did is nothing less than assault and I hope that is what he is charged and convicted of.

#21 Ben

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 21:24

Originally posted by Bluesmoke


This is different. That Russian woman was not leading and she was not interupted by a spectator. In hurdles, things like that happen.

Lima was clearly going to win this one. I've done a 5km run before and it's all in how you pace your breathing. A lapse in concentration will cost you dearly unless you slow your pace to resume your proper breathing.


I've done 5k, 10k, half marathons and olympic distance triathlons but that's irrelevant to the discussion.

Sport is about competing in an environment and sometimes that environment throws up things that suck. It's irrelevant whether the Russian sprinter was leading or not her race was still destroyed.

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#22 dnbn

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 21:34

Why wasn't he put on trial after Silverstone 2003? After all he endangered the lives of others.

#23 random

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 21:47

Originally posted by dnbn
Why wasn't he put on trial after Silverstone 2003? After all he endangered the lives of others.

He did 2 months in jail for that. I guess he didn't learn his lesson.

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 22:08

Originally posted by 100cc
alapan: aeroplane tickets are sold to many people.... not just given out to a select few. ;)


The guy should have been on a watch list. My brother-in-law is schizophrenic and he's on a "no fly" list, not even able to fly within Canada. The nutty ex-priest should not ever be allowed on a plane because he's a danger to everyone.

Originally posted by Ben

Sport is about competing in an environment and sometimes that environment throws up things that suck. It's irrelevant whether the Russian sprinter was leading or not her race was still destroyed.

Ben


The difference is that Shevchenko was taken out by a competitor in the course of the race whereas de Lima was taken out by a spectator because of a security failure. Strange things happen in the hurdles but athletes are entitled to adequate security. The nut could have seriously injured de Lima or could even have had a weapon. The organizers are responsible for security and screwed up. They're lucky that the situation didn't turn out worse. The fact that the guy was dressed like a nut should have been a red flag to the security workers, who then should have watched him closely. There is no excuse for that.

de Lima showed a lot of class and handled the strange situation with grace.

#25 BRG

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Posted 03 September 2004 - 11:02

Here is a (ex)Father Neil Horan update:

There is good news and bad news for the London-based Irish nutter.

The good news for Horan is that he has been stopped from going to Brazil to perform an Irish dance for Vanderlei de Lima, the athlete that he attacked. It is good news for Horan because I imagine that the Brazilian public might have been a lot less understanding than the Greek judge and he might not have escaped so lightly!

The bad news for Horan is that he was stopped from going because he is under investigation for alleged indecent assault on a child.

Maybe he will get his just desserts after all...

Source:- http://news.bbc.co.u.../uk/3622144.stm

#26 Raemius

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Posted 03 September 2004 - 11:26

Originally posted by HBoss


The British shouold do to him what they do to the hooligans, not let him get out of the country.


He's not British - HE'S IRISH

#27 Chris G.

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Posted 03 September 2004 - 12:29

Cut his legs off. That should solve the problem.

#28 Christos Koukides

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Posted 03 September 2004 - 12:56

I WAS IN ATHENS DURING THE GAMES. GREEK TV SAID THAT LIMA WAS AWARDED A SPECIAL "FAIR PLAY" TYPE OF AWARD PLUS HE GOT A REALLY THUNDEROUS RECEPTION IN THE STADIUM THAT HE SEEMED TO ENJOY. I ALSO BELIEVE THAT HE WOULD HAVE BEEN BEATEN ANYWAY BUT NEVERTHELESS THESE MORONS ARE BECOMING PART OF THE STORY THESE DAYS.

THERE IS ALSO THAT GUY WHO IS A FLASHER HERE AND THERE ALL THE TIME.

OR REMEMBER WAHT THE SPANISH GUY DID TO FIGO AT THE EURO 2004 FINAL.

#29 Felix

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Posted 03 September 2004 - 13:14

Just so we have similar info on here to what is on Nostalgia Forum on the same subject under
LOOKING FAMILIAR, herewith copy of something I posted there:

Well, well, well - according to the (UK) Times of 3 September instant, the defrocked revved-up reverend went all the way to Greece whilst under investigation for child abuse matters allegedly committed between 1990/93. His bail conditions restrict him to his postal area (Nunhead, SE London) whilst awaitin trial. Hopefully the End Really Is Coming Now?

#30 Dudley

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Posted 05 September 2004 - 20:01

Originally posted by Christos Koukides
I WAS IN ATHENS DURING THE GAMES.


WERE YOU?

#31 man from martinlaakso

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Posted 06 September 2004 - 21:08

The two men, who got the gold and silver medals were cutting the Brazilian's lead heavily already before the pushing incident. De Lima was pretty tired and the duo would have passed him without the incident probably 1-1.5 km from the finish. So the incident had no real effect to the results.

#32 rgsuspsa

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Posted 08 September 2004 - 18:52

Originally posted by man from martinlaakso
The two men, who got the gold and silver medals were cutting the Brazilian's lead heavily already before the pushing incident. De Lima was pretty tired and the duo would have passed him without the incident probably 1-1.5 km from the finish. So the incident had no real effect to the results.


Perhaps, perhaps not. In any case the competitors and spectators are legitimately
entitled to an event competed and decided solely by the competitors performances.

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Posted 08 September 2004 - 19:30

Too bad Lima didnt have a Brazillian teamate to run interference for him.You know,like another certain world champion we all have heard of.

#34 Rosemayer

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Posted 08 September 2004 - 19:51

I believe he should run out in front of a NASCAR race on a superspeedway carry his poster. Lets see 44 3400 lb. cars at 200 mph probibly would result in a red cloud.

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Posted 08 September 2004 - 22:04

Originally posted by Rosemayer
I believe he should run out in front of a NASCAR race on a superspeedway carry his poster. Lets see 44 3400 lb. cars at 200 mph probibly would result in a red cloud.


A very good suggestion. At last a useful purpose for NASCAR.

#36 Uxoros

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Posted 08 September 2004 - 22:57

Originally posted by Rosemayer
I believe he should run out in front of a NASCAR race on a superspeedway carry his poster. Lets see 44 3400 lb. cars at 200 mph probibly would result in a red cloud.


:rotfl:

#37 Randy Martin

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Posted 09 September 2004 - 00:59

Originally posted by LOTUS78
Too bad Lima didnt have a Brazillian teamate to run interference for him.You know,like another certain world champion we all have heard of.


I guess we just can't have a thread without at least one, can we. :rolleyes:

#38 BRG

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Posted 09 September 2004 - 09:25

I have heard that de Lima's running shoes were illegal - 5mm too wide, and the compound was too soft, so that the grooves had all been worn away by the finish. If he had won the marathon, he would have been disqualified in scrutineering.

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Posted 09 September 2004 - 09:38

Originally posted by Randy Martin


I guess we just can't have a thread without at least one, can we. :rolleyes:

:confused: Surely Lotus78 was referring to Khalid Skah?

:smoking:

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Posted 09 September 2004 - 09:40

Originally posted by man from martinlaakso
The two men, who got the gold and silver medals were cutting the Brazilian's lead heavily already before the pushing incident. De Lima was pretty tired and the duo would have passed him without the incident probably 1-1.5 km from the finish. So the incident had no real effect to the results.


you dont know that for sure anything could have happeend