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[Vicuna]

Originally posted by ReWind

[SIZE=6][b]It's Olivier![/b][/SIZE]

Gendebien wins home Grand Prix after thrilling finish 

	 by less than two seconds from charging Moss

Miraculously I even have full results of that wet race over 423 km at Spa on June 14, 1959.

©ReWind2007 [u]		   car[/u] [u]engine[/u] [u]ty[/u] [u] #[/u] [u]	  driver		 (nat)[/u] [u]laps time (h) [/u] [u]  gap   [/u] [u] km/h [/u]  [u]grid (min) [/u] [u]entrant			[/u]

 1.	   Ferrari Dino 246 V6 2.4 Du  8  Olivier Gendebien   (Bel)  30  2:14.34,7		  188,59	7  3.59,0 Scuderia Ferrari

 2.			 B.R.M. P25 S4 2.5 Du 34 Stirling Moss		(Eng)  30  2:14.36,6 +	1,9 188,54	4  3.57,5 B.R.P.

 3.	  Cooper T51-Climax S4 2.5 Du 10	 Jack Brabham	 (Aus)  30  2:14.51,2 +   16,5 188,20	2  3.56,1 Cooper Car Co.

 4.			 B.R.M. P25 S4 2.5 Du 16	Harry Schell	  (USA)  30  2:15.19,8 +   45,1 187,54	8  3.59,3 Owen Racing Org.

 5.		Lotus 16-Climax S4 2.5 Du 32	Innes Ireland	 (Sco)  30  2:16.32,0 + 1.57,3 185,89   13  4.03,8 Team Lotus

 6.			 B.R.M. P25 S4 2.5 Du 18   Joakim Bonnier	 (Swe)  29  2:15.43,3 – 1 lap  180,77   10  4.00,3 Owen Racing Org.

 7.		Lotus 16-Climax S4 2.5 Du 30   Graham Hill		(Eng)  29  2:17.15,4 – 1 lap  178,74   12  4.02,6 Team Lotus

 8.	Cooper T51-Maserati S4 2.5 Du 36	  Ian Burgess	 (Eng)  28  2:18.12,5 – 2 laps 171,39   18  4.14,4 Scuderia Centro Sud

 9.	Cooper T51-Maserati S4 2.5 Du 38	Colin Davis	   (Eng)  27  2:17.21,3 – 3 laps 166,30   16  4.12,3 Scuderia Centro Sud

10.		  Maserati 250F S6 2.5 Pi 40  Giorgio Scarlatti   (Ita)  26  2:16.51,0 – 4 laps 160,73   17  4.13,2 Scuderia Ugolini

ret	   Ferrari Dino 246 V6 2.4 Du  2	 Tony Brooks	  (Eng)  22 engine					  Pole 3.55,4 Scuderia Ferrari

ret	   Ferrari Dino 246 V6 2.4 Du  6	 Phil Hill		(USA)  20 ignition					  3  3.57,4 Scuderia Ferrari

ret  Aston Martin DBR4/250 S6 2.5 Av 26	  Roy Salvadori   (Eng)  17 oil pressure				 14  4.07,0 David Brown Corp.

ret	   Ferrari Dino 156 V6 2.4 Du  4	 Jean Behra	   (Fra)  15 gearbox					   5  3.57,9 Scuderia Ferrari

ret	  Cooper T51-Climax S4 2.5 Du 24  Maurice Trintignant (Fra)  11 clutch					   11  4.01,2 RRC Walker Racing

ret	  Cooper T51-Climax S4 2.5 Du 12   Masten Gregory	 (USA)   8 spun off					  6  3.58,6 Cooper Car Co.

ret	  Cooper T45-Climax S4 2.5 Du 14	Bruce McLaren	 (NZl)   2 spun off					  9  3.59,7 Cooper Car Co.

dns  Aston Martin DBR4/250 S6 2.5 Av 28  Carroll Shelby	  (USA)	 differential				 15  4.11,1 David Brown Corp.

dns		  Maserati 250F S6 2.5 Pi 42	Carel de Beaufort (Ned)	 too slow					(19) 4.22,2 Scuderia Ugolini

dns	  Cooper T51-Climax S4 2.5 Du 22 Stirling Moss		(Eng)	 gearbox, drove # 34		 ( 2) 3.55,7 RRC Walker Racing

dna			 B.R.M. P25 S4 2.5 Du 20	  Ron Flockhart   (Sco)											 Owen Racing Org.



		  [u][i]Pole Position[/i][/u]					[u]Starting Grid (17 cars)[/u]

	   Tony Brooks (27,Eng)				 Jack Brabham (33,Aus)				   Phil Hill (32,USA)

	  2 Ferrari Dino 246/0002			10 Cooper-Climax T51/F2-4-59			 6 Ferrari Dino 246/0003

			215,6 km/h							215,0 km/h							213,8 km/h

						 Stirling Moss (29,Eng)				  Jean Behra (38,Fra)

						  34 B.R.M. P25(2510)				  4 Ferrari Dino 156/0011

							   213,7 km/h							213,4 km/h

	 Masten Gregory (27,USA)			  Olivier Gendebien (35,Bel)			  Harry Schell (37,USA)

   12 Cooper-Climax T51/F2-7-59			 8 Ferrari Dino 246/0004				 16 B.R.M. P25(259)

			212,7 km/h							212,4 km/h							212,1 km/h

						 Bruce McLaren (21,NZl)			   Joakim Bonnier (29,Swe)

					  14 Cooper-Climax T45/F2-23-58			 18 B.R.M. P25(258)

							   211,7 km/h							211,2 km/h

   Maurice Trintignant (41,Fra)			  Graham Hill (30,Eng)				 Innes Ireland (29,Sco)

  24 Cooper-Climax T51/F2-16a-57		   30 Lotus-Climax 16(364)			   32 Lotus-Climax 16(365)

			210,4 km/h							209,2 km/h							208,2 km/h

						  Roy Salvadori (37,Eng)				  (Carroll Shelby)

					   26 Aston Martin DBR4/250-01

							   205,5 km/h

	   Colin Davis (26,Eng)			   Giorgio Scarlatti (37,Ita)			   Ian Burgess (28,Eng)

 38 Cooper-Maserati T51/F2-12-59		  40 Maserati 250F/57(2529)		  36 Cooper-Maserati T51/F2-13-59

			201,2 km/h							200,5 km/h							199,5 km/h

;)

So what you're saying is that Tony Brooks still doesn't win the 1959 world title...

[Ebessan]

"Australasian-American Racers Dominates '70 500"

"All Austrian Team of Rindt, Marko and Koinigg win '73 24 Hours of Le Mans"

"Andretti Edges Swede Teammates in '78 500"

"Goodyear Gets Past Unser in '92 500"

"Villeneuve 1-2 in '95 500"

"Ratzenberger Wins the British Touring Car Championship of 1995"

"Brayton Beats Vasser in '96 500" (Sub-headline: "Damn." as remarked by John Menard, glad he made the switch to Honda from his own engines.)

"Zanardi Becomes Second Man to Win Grand Prix of Monaco and Indy 500 in Successive Years Since Hill, in 2001"

[Kingsleyrob]

Great thread this - has had me chuckling

How about:

Monza Banking Back for 2007 Italian GP!!

Sir Mike to Celebrate 50th WDC Anniversary at 2008 Goodwood Revival

Chris, Bruce and Denny - three Kiwi ex-World Drivers Champions seen reminiscing at 2006 Dutch GP at Zandvoort

Rindt says 'thank God I had my harness fully fastened - it saved me'

Damon wins 1994 championship after surviving lunge by rival Scumacher

Victory at last for Arrows in Hungary - Damon delighted!

Prototype helmet saves Senna

Rheims and Rouen battle to host 2008 French GP

Bernie opposes segregation of teams and fans - 'I want it to be like it was in the 60s' he says

And finally...

Amon clinches Formula One Drivers AND Constructors Championships

Rob

[ensign14]

JD McDuffie Wins Chaotic Daytona 500

[Breadmaster]

I love some of these - particularly ones that shoehorn in about 3 or 4 different ideas into 1 short sentence.....

eg:

Villeneuve speaking at 2007 German GP at Nordschleife - "I'm proud my son is 2xWDC in both Normally Aspirated and Turbo cars"

[Vitesse2]

Originally posted by ensign14
JD McDuffie Wins Chaotic Daytona 500

You've done that one before!

[ensign14]

Originally posted by Vitesse2

You've done that one before!

Great minds...

[wolvey]

"Ratzenberger and McCarthey score Simtek 1-2 to wrap up Constructors title"


man i loved those purple cars

[petefenelon]

Avoiding the usual "I wish X hadn't died/I wish Bernie had left motorsport" how about:

"MSA announce end of British F3 - Champcar Atlantic to be top national single seaters for '08".
"Toyota expelled from F1 - not for cheating, but for continuing to employ impostors pretending to be racing drivers".
"ALMS finally sees sense - just gives Chevy the silverware and tells GT1s to stay home".

[Barry Boor]

Dan Gurney - Spa - 1964:

"Man, that was close; I almost ran out of gas!"

[sterling49]

Originally posted by petefenelon
Avoiding the usual "I wish X hadn't died/I wish Bernie had left motorsport" how about:

.
"Toyota expelled from F1 - not for cheating, but for continuing to employ impostors pretending to be racing drivers".

Brilliant! My sentiments exactly...and they earn a few pennies too!


"Team Total Charisma By-pass"

[former champ]

''Jacques Villeneuve announces sensational switch to McLaren Mercedes for 1999, in the process rejecting the chance to join the fledgling BAR team.''

[West3]

A post from a scale model forum seemed so appropriate here:

“Ford Wins Le Mans but Henry Ford fumes”

Ken Miles and Denny Hulme win the 24 Hours of Le Mans leading a one, two, three finish for the Ford GT40 and giving Henry Ford the victory that he has been chasing for many years. Rather than enjoying the victory, Ford was reportedly miffed that Ken Miles did not slow down as instructed to allow the three Ford GTs to cross the line together. Miles, who became the first driver to ever win the GT triple crown of Daytona, Sebring and Le Mans in the same year, did not allow the trailing cars to form up behind him but pressed on at near full race speed in the morning drizzle to win the race by several miles over the second place Ford GT of Bruce McLaren.

Ford reportedly is so irritated my Miles ruining the “million dollar photo opportunity” that he has directed Carroll Shelby, who’s Shelby American racing team manages the Ford GT racing effort, to remove Miles from any further involvement with the Ford GT racing program. Miles future with Shelby American appears to be unclear even in his moment of triumph. Miles was scheduled to do extensive testing on Ford’s next generation GT car, code named the “J Car”, at the Riverside California race track in the upcoming months. It is possible that Ford might have McLaren, a favorite of Ford’s European based racing development programs, replace Miles.

[sandy]

ROGER WARD WINS 1959 US GRAND PRIX!

First race, first victory for Kurtis - Kraft Offenhauser!

Amazing sights as US car laps field, turning corners at unbelieveable speeds.

We have been completely barking up wrong design tree says Colin Chapman - joins queue at Offenhauser engine works.

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BRITISH WONDER CAR BRM WINS FIRST RACE - 1950 DAILY EXPRESS INTERNATIONAL TROPHY

FRENCH ACE RAYMOND SOMMER LEADS FROM START TO FINISH.

SPECTATORS THROW PENNIES AT ALFA ROMEOS.

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FRENCH WONDER CAR CTA - ARSENAL WINS FIRST RACE - 1947 FRENCH GRAND PRIX

FRENCH ACE RAYMOND SOMMER LEADS FIRST RACE FROM START TO FINISH.

SPECTATORS THROW CENTIMES AT ALFA ROMEOS

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[Barry Boor]

EXCELLENT!

[Ian Smith - Diz]

I've only read pages 1 and 2, then skipped to here, so apologies if I repeat anything.
These were actual headlines to news snippets, or race reports. though, not ones I wished I'd seen as per the thread title. I know the last one was in MN and the others could well have been, but maybe were ASpt.

After Lella Lombardi had some setbacks in her last few weeks of racing - crashes, mechanical etc.
Lella has difficult period
Jochen Mass had more than one option for the following season, but hadn't made his mind up where to go.
Mass debates
And finally. A staffer [and TNF member]at MN headlined a race report with this one and nearly became an ex staffer when the editor saw it. The freelancer's report came in from the Richard Seaman Vintage meeting at Oulton Park. The first few lines mentioned the very hot and summery weather in Cheshire and this is what he headlined the report.
Hot and Sticky Seaman
Sorry if I've offended anybody, but they made me laugh at the time - and still do.

[Kingsleyrob]

Very good Ian...

And one I suspect we'll be seeing soon once Robert Kubica gets his act together...

"Pole on Pole!!!"


Rob

[Ian Smith - Diz]

Didn't Muddly Talker once say about two Swedes on the podium "that's a bit of a turnip" or something like that.

[David M. Kane]

Moseley expects his Pyramid to be ready soon...

[Hames Junt]

Stunning Hill wins the 1997 Hungarian GP.

Senna dedicates Imola win to injured Ratzenberger.

[David M. Kane]

Hot Loins tells James she's changed her mind.

[petefenelon]

Trebron to purchase Toro Rosso.

[Mal9444]

Apologies if this has been posted before;

MIRACULOUS ESCAPE FOR MOSS FROM HORROR CRASH

[Mal9444]

Have now been through the thread, so apologies to Pete Fenelton who was in there straight away with something similar, so how about:

MOSS SIGNS FOR FERRARI AFTER PRECOCIOUS WIN AT BARI
Britain's 19-year-old rising star Stirling Moss in his first drive in a works Ferrari...

[Kingsleyrob]

Originally posted by Hames Junt
Stunning Hill wins the 1997 Hungarian GP.

Senna dedicates Imola win to injured Ratzenberger.

Yes Hames, I echo those sentiments (see post 403), and welcome to TNF - a youthful member! True dedication posting on your 21st birthday too

Rob

[Breadmaster]

21 and posting in TNF?

Gadzooks!

;)

[Kingsleyrob]

Originally posted by Breadmaster
21 and posting in TNF?

Gadzooks!

;)

Indeed...things aren't quite how they used to be...

Rob

[David McKinney]

Happy 21st Hames

[Vicuna]

Great to see this brilliant thread back

[drivers71]

"Historic 1-2-3 for Cunningham in 1954 Le Mans 24 Hours"
"Ickx and Bellof first and second for Porsche in 1985 Spa 1000kms"
"After failing to finish again Coulthard says "The car was perfect - It was my mistake""

[Russ Snyder]

"Eddie Sachs wins the 1961 Indy 500"

"Bill Vuckovich wins Indy for the 3rd straight time"

"Wilbur Shaw wins 4th Indy in duel with Mauri Rose"

[Macca]

"Graham Hill loses pilots' license after near miss."
EDIT (oops - done one like that before)

" 'It's my day at last', says Granatelli after 'Silent Sam' turbine win"

"Maserati clinch WSC championship and announce F1 plans for 1958"

Paul M

[Mal9444]

MERCEDES SIGN MOSS TO LEAD TEAM FOR 1956

[Phil Rainford]

"British GP Shock: Silverstone axed as race is moved to Oulton Park in 10 year deal!"

Kind regards

Phil

[petefenelon]

Mansell in laryngitis shocker.

[ensign14]

YOUTUBE FOOTAGE PROVES BENETTON SOFTWARE ALLEGATION

[fines]

Review of year one after Ferrari: Already nobody misses them!

[Risil]

Originally posted by petefenelon

"BBC outbid ITV to retain F1 until 2020".

"No bargeboards, small wings for F1's low downforce future".

You forgot the electronic driver aids.

[Eric Dunsdon]

ONOFRE MARIMON ESCAPES UNHURT FROM NURBURGRING PRACTICE CRASH.

ASCARI TAKES WEEKS VACATION AFTER MONACO DRAMA.

BEHRA WITHDRAWS FROM AVUS MEETING

HAWTHORN, COLLINS AND WHARTON DOMINATE MONZA IN BRM's

ASCARI AND CASTELLOTTI DELIGHTED WITH 1956 LANCIA D51.

HORACE RICHARDS WINS BIG RACE IN HOME MADE H.A.R WONDER CAR.

[Mal9444]

VICTOR MOSS TAKES SCHOOLBOY FOR SPIN ROUND DUNDROD

(getting a bit silly now, I agree).

[sandy]

OLD FERRARI RACING CARS FOUND
It is an historic day says motor racing historian Doug Mye as he viewed
four complete 1957 Ferrari Grand Prix team cars found in an old barn on the
outskirts of Modena. Mye said that it had been thought that the cars had
been broken up but here they were, complete and ready for restoration.
It is believed that numerous potential buyers are on their way to Italy cheque
books in hand.
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BROOKLANDS DAYS OF GLORY MAY BE OVER
Nearby residents long battle for the closure of the famous track may finally have been won.
Their protests were recently intensified when the Bluebird Special of Donald Campbell went
over the banking to land a half mile away in a bus depot. Although no one was hurt the accident
may ensure that the track is closed. A local farmer said that the introduction of jet engine specials
was too much and even though the track had been extended the average lap speeds in excess
of 400 mph caused widespread unease amongst families living within the general area. "When
I saw Donald eject over my house I finally thought that enough is enough". He said.

However the recent duels between Campbell and A.J Foyt Jnr 111., both descendents of famous
racing drivers of last century, have created widespread enthusiasm amongst motor racing fans.
The British Rolls Royce Olympus 593 engined Bluebird has recently matched Foyt's Pratt & Whitney
F100 - PW -100 powered Kurtis-Kraft in speed. Motor racing historian Doug Bye said that the
long tradition of aero engined specials lived on with these cars and even though the typical 45
second lap times were maybe a "bit much" there was no denying that the spectacle appealed to
the public.

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[ensign14]

VICTOR MOSS IS SON OF STIRLING

[Kingsleyrob]

Originally posted by Kingsleyrob
:

And one I suspect we'll be seeing soon once Robert Kubica gets his act together...

"Pole on Pole!!!"


Rob

Anyone seen it yet??

Rob

[Vitesse2]

David Tremayne quoted it as the one all the subs had been waiting for in his preview of today's race - but they didn't use it as they had a better pun about Max being deserted by the teams (Bahrain ... desert .... geddit?) - and Eleanor Oldroyd said it as she handed over to David Croft on 5Live.

[Kingsleyrob]

Thanks Vitesse2...

Ted Kravitz (I think it was him anyway) said it too during his intro on ITV.

OT I know but Bahrain bores me stiff, I'm sure because of the setting of the track. In fact I channel hopped to BBC during the ads and spent five minutes chuckling at 'Allo 'Allo! I was wondering if Max had too

I'm sure there's another thread for commentator howlers, (not incorrect, just funny) but I was at Oulton Park over Easter and heard the commentator (I think it was the excellent Ian Titchmarsh) announce excitedly to the crowd that 'Dick is wilting' (the Ginetta G50 driver Christian Dick) and that he was being caught 'hand over fist' by the cars behind him.. It raised a few titters amongst the spectators I can tell you

Rob