The Anglo-American / Transatlantic Trophy Match Races (merged)
#1
Posted 30 September 2004 - 18:01
Googling along, I ran across this site which has some great old photos from that time, including a great shot of Rayborn on the "more images" page.
My question is, I've not been able to locate the results from these races. Do they exist anywhere online or in anyone's personal collection? Also, were any of you guys there, and might you have any photos of your own?
Thanks much in advance.
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#2
Posted 30 September 2004 - 18:09
Can anyone spell, "Those were the Days???"
#3
Posted 30 September 2004 - 19:13
GB 183 points (Paul Smart/BSA-Triumph 76, Ray Pickrell/BSA-Triumph 76, etc.)
USA 137 (Dick Mann/BSA? 46, etc.)
1972 (6 races)
GB 255 (Ray Pickrell 69, etc.)
USA 212 (Cal Rayborn/Harley-Davidson 69/3 wins, etc.)
1973
GB 416 (Peter Williams 84, etc.)
USA 398 (Yvon DuHamel 84, etc.)
1974 (6 races)
GB 416 (Barry Sheene/Suzuki 750, Paul Smart/Suzuki 750, Stan Woods/Suzuki 750, Peter Williams/Norton 750, Percy Tait/Triumph 750, Mick Grant/Yamaha 700, Barry Ditchburn/Yamaha 700 - reserve: Ron Chandler/Triumph 750)
USA 401 (Kenny Roberts/Yamaha 700 4 wins, Gene Romero/Yamaha 700, Gary Fisher/Yamaha 700, John Long/Yamaha 700, Yvon DuHamel/Kawasaki 750, Art Baumann/Kawasaki 750, Gary Nixon/Suzuki 750, Dave Aldana/Norton 750 - reserve: Jim Evans/Yamaha 700)
1975 (4 races?)
USA 278 (Dave Aldana 51, Don Castro, Kenny Roberts, Gene Romero, Steve McLaughlin, Pat Hennen, Steve Baker, Phil McDonald, Randy Cleek)
GB 243 (Pat Mahoney 45, Dave Potter, Percy Tait, Stan Woods, Mick Grant, Barry Ditchburn, Dave Croxford, John Newbold, Charlie Williams)
1976 (6 races)
GB 412 (Barry Sheene 77, Phil Read, Mick Grant, Barry Ditchburn, Dave Potter, John Williams, Dave Croxford, Steve Parrish - reserve: Ron Haslam)
USA 384 (Steve Baker 92/4 wins, Kenny Roberts, Gary Nixon, Pat Hennen, Gene Romero, Randy Cleek, Ron Pierce, Pat Evans - reserve: Marty Lunde)
I have more detailed results for later events, but I suspect you're after the earlier ones.
#4
Posted 30 September 2004 - 19:16
#5
Posted 30 September 2004 - 20:51
I sat on the same table as Gary Nixon a few weeks ago.
Back in the day I used to like Peter Williams on the John Player Norton, as well as Sheene, Baker, Grant, Rocket Ron - I could go on! Ok, I will. Virginio Ferrari, Wil Hartog, Marco Luchinelli and that Dutch rider who rode for Kawasaki...
#6
Posted 30 September 2004 - 21:06
Originally posted by Twin Window
that Dutch rider who rode for Kawasaki...
#7
Posted 30 September 2004 - 21:11
Gary Nixon... I met him around 1970 or so at an indoor race in Columbia, South Carolina. I remember that he chain smoked, and seemed a bit nervous, but was quite cordial. I always enjoyed watching him at Road Atlanta on the Kawasakis. He seemed so tidy, neat, and careful, but managed to be really fast in the process. Yvon DuHamel, on the other hand, always looked like he was on the ragged edge...
That really was a golden period for bikes.
#8
Posted 30 September 2004 - 21:43
My brain is just too tired, Michael, and I can't think of the guy's name...!Originally posted by fines
#9
Posted 30 September 2004 - 21:50
Actually I was referring to Mick Grant who was a Brit rider of some repute who also won a few races on the IoM.Originally posted by MPea3
Ron Grant?
Yes, DuHamel did have a reputation for being a bit wild... A team I liked in the '70s was Gauloises Sonauto Yamaha with Christian Sarron, Patrick Pons and Olivier Chevalier.
#10
Posted 30 September 2004 - 22:10
#11
Posted 01 October 2004 - 09:16
But I don't remember a Dutch Kawasaki rider - Mick Grant won the Dutch 250cc GP in 1977, and there was the South African, Kork Ballington, and the German, Toni Mang.
There were three top Dutchmen in 500 GPs, Jack Middleburg, Boet van Dulman and Wil Hartog, but they rode Suzukis and Yamahas......
Paul M
#12
Posted 01 October 2004 - 11:30
Is the DuHamel listed here related to the DuHamel doing the rounds in the current AMA SBK series?
#13
Posted 01 October 2004 - 11:39
Paul M
#14
Posted 01 October 2004 - 11:52
Originally posted by LittleChris
Jack Middelburg ?
Originally posted by Macca
But I don't remember a Dutch Kawasaki rider - Mick Grant won the Dutch 250cc GP in 1977, and there was the South African, Kork Ballington, and the German, Toni Mang.
There were three top Dutchmen in 500 GPs, Jack Middleburg, Boet van Dulman and Wil Hartog, but they rode Suzukis and Yamahas......
Well, I suppose I must be thinking of Middleburg... In the early '80s I organised three series of 'mini-posters' with Valvoline which were inserted free in Autosport. As well as ensuring that as many of my mates featured on these posters as was possible ;) , I was also rather chuffed to get a 500 GP bike there in the mixer. I really thought it was a Kwaka, and the rider Dutch. Hey-ho, the mists of time and all that!
Originally posted by smithy
Is the DuHamel listed here related to the DuHamel doing the rounds in the current AMA SBK series?
I've wondered that too, but aren't they from different continents? I suppose that doesn't actually preclude the possibility though...
#15
Posted 01 October 2004 - 13:33
#16
Posted 01 October 2004 - 13:52
Originally posted by Macca
I would think that's Miguel, Yvon's son, who used to be in 500cc GPs. OTTOMH I think there's another son also, though, so it could be him.
Paul M
That's right, he's Yvon's son. Yvon can often be seen somewhere in the pits during his son's races, and he still shows up occasionally at vintage bike races. If I'm not mistaken, Yvon began his career racing snowmobiles. Snowmobiles to racecars... there's a new topic!
#17
Posted 02 October 2004 - 01:25
..so please get in touch with me if you have one (and then I'll tell you why...).
#18
Posted 03 October 2004 - 18:43
Originally posted by MPea3
That's right, he's Yvon's son. Yvon can often be seen somewhere in the pits during his son's races, and he still shows up occasionally at vintage bike races. If I'm not mistaken, Yvon began his career racing snowmobiles. Snowmobiles to racecars... there's a new topic!
Back from a few days away from the keyboard, nice to see a bit of bike talk on TNF...
Miguel Duhamel is indeed Yvon's son , he did race in GP500 for the french Sonauto team in the early 90's ( ? ) , he has an older brother named Mario who also was a good rider.
The Duhamel's did on two wheels what the Andretti's and Bell's did on four at Le Mans , they entered the Bol d' Or ( the biggest 24 hours endurance race ) one - or maybe two - years in the 90's , old daddy Yvon and his sons Mario and Miguel , on a semi-works Honda , and were in the leading bunch....I think they even came close to winning that year the race was interrupted many times by pouring rain ( at Paul Ricard , of all places....)
#19
Posted 03 October 2004 - 19:57
Originally posted by Macca
I would think that's Miguel, Yvon's son, who used to be in 500cc GPs. OTTOMH I think there's another son also, though, so it could be him.
Paul M
Yvon still rides... I think he had an accident last year at Mosport at a motorcycle track days. He got into an accident with a young rider. I think he was still racing ocassionally into his 50s.
Yvon has two sons in racing. Mario and Miguel Duhamel.
Mario was a Canadian 600cc & 750cc champion in 86 & 87 and did some privateer rides in AMA I think.
Miguel has Superbike, Supersport, and this year a Formula Extreme championship to his name. He also has the all time number of wins in all series. His listed age depends on where you look. I think he is hiding what his true age is because he is still having too much fun with what he is doing. I think he is 38 years old. Miguel also did 500s for a year.
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#20
Posted 03 October 2004 - 20:19
Well done Tose!!
(I've been working all day, so I missed everything...)
#21
Posted 04 October 2004 - 02:38
Originally posted by Twin Window
Like you say, MPea3, a real 'Who's Who'!
I sat on the same table as Gary Nixon a few weeks ago.
Oh yeah !
I RACED against Jim Pomeroy 2 months ago
(I race classic motorcross and he was a guest of a number of classic MX clubs here in Australia)
They were good old days of racing, bikes and tyres being what they were allowed for very close competition.
Steve Parish is coming out here to lead the Barry Sheene tribute ride to Philip Island for the Moto GP soon.
Shame there wasnt a 3 way match including Australia, we had some cream riders in those days too.
#22
Posted 04 October 2004 - 07:23
Originally posted by ehagar
Yvon still rides...
Does he ever.....this is a picture of him taken at the 2002 Coupes Moto Légende at Montlhéry, aboard a borrowed genuine 750 H2r .....Yvon had a brand new set of period leathers remade for the occasion ( to accomodate a few extra pounds ) and did turn som pretty quick laps....
And yes.....this picture is copyright Pierre Gabriele , a friend of mine whose site you can visit at
http://www.pierre-ga...NavCircuits.htm
Lots of nice period ( and also current historics ) bike pictures there
#23
Posted 21 May 2009 - 19:34
I have lots of memories from the races I saw, but this one of Phil Read on a Kawasaki 750 from the 1977 series stands out, he dragged this exhaust pipe round for a number of laps, till it detached itself just where I got this shot,( Clearways) only for it to go under his rear wheel & have him off.
Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.
Anyone else got any memories & or pics to add?
Edited by picblanc, 19 February 2012 - 23:10.
#24
Posted 21 May 2009 - 20:49
Fu,my best ever memory of the Trans was Cal Rayborn.Only saw him at Mallory on the HD,but my god what a talent.He made our boys look a bit shoddy(with the exception of Ray Pickrell)Been itching to start this, in my opinion some of the best races ever seen in the UK & the chance for many of us to see for the first time the best from across the water ( Roberts, Rayborn, Mann, Russell, Spencer etc)
I have lots of memories from the races I saw, but this one of Phil Read on a Kawasaki 750 from the 1977 series stands out, he dragged this exhaust pipe round for a number of laps, till it detached itself just where I got this shot,( Clearways) only for it to go under his rear wheel & have him off.
Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.
Anyone else got any memories & or pics to add?
Both sadly no longer with us.Any photies of CR?
HW
#25
Posted 21 May 2009 - 20:52
#26
Posted 21 May 2009 - 20:55
Fu,my best ever memory of the Trans was Cal Rayborn.Only saw him at Mallory on the HD,but my god what a talent.He made our boys look a bit shoddy(with the exception of Ray Pickrell)
Both sadly no longer with us.Any photies of CR?
HW
He is my other greatest memory, saw him on his first visit to UK at Brands in 1972, can still see and hear him now, orange tinted visor, jet helmet, absolutely brilliant, as you say only Ray could match him in those races, they shared three wins each I recall?
Sadly no pics that day
#27
Posted 21 May 2009 - 21:00
Blimey! I never realised/remembered that Read ever rode a Kwacker!
Yes must of been a spare Grant/Ditchburn bike, I remember it was a pale green, compared to the darker Emerald green of the Grant/Ditchburn Kawasaki UK bikes.
#28
Posted 21 May 2009 - 21:07
Edited by Russell Burrows, 22 May 2009 - 09:24.
#29
Posted 21 May 2009 - 21:19
Yes must of been a spare Grant/Ditchburn bike, I remember it was a pale green, compared to the darker Emerald green of the Grant/Ditchburn Kawasaki UK bikes.
Am I mistaken here, but did Barry Ditchburn, come form Gravesend, Kent?
#30
Posted 21 May 2009 - 21:25
Am I mistaken here, but did Barry Ditchburn, come form Gravesend, Kent?
Northfleet I think Sterling.
#31
Posted 21 May 2009 - 21:28
A few pages from the programme, with a rather sad note though since two of the riders listed in the American team sadly did not make it to that Easter meeting, having lost theit lives at Imola the week-end before
#32
Posted 21 May 2009 - 21:30
I was also there at that 1977 Brands meeting, probably standing only a few yards away from Mr Fu since I also witnessed Phil Read tripping over his loose exhaust pipe and falling off right in front of me.....
A few pages from the programme, with a rather sad note though since two of the riders listed in the American team sadly did not make it to that Easter meeting, having lost theit lives at Imola the week-end before
David Emde has gone now too, killed on a road bike a couple of years a go.
#33
Posted 21 May 2009 - 21:33
Northfleet I think Sterling.
Same thing well nearly, anyway!Thanks Graham
#35
Posted 21 May 2009 - 21:39
#36
Posted 21 May 2009 - 21:49
I got Scott Russell's autograph while working the fuel pumps in the paddock at Mallory during the 1991 Match Races, he came over with a jerry can and got the fuel himself, just like Mr Stoner does these days, no doubt.........
Scott was the only rider from USA that year that put up any kind of fight IMO.
Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.
Welcome Mondiale 41'
Edited by picblanc, 18 February 2012 - 22:54.
#37
Posted 21 May 2009 - 22:01
I got Scott Russell's autograph while working the fuel pumps in the paddock at Mallory during the 1991 Match Races, he came over with a jerry can and got the fuel himself, just like Mr Stoner does these days, no doubt.........
Yes as George/ Buster says welcome
#38
Posted 21 May 2009 - 22:12
Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.
Edited by picblanc, 19 February 2012 - 19:11.
#39
Posted 21 May 2009 - 22:24
I might not be able to resist starting a motorcycle racing sticker thread...
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#40
Posted 22 May 2009 - 07:37
When was the last Transatlantic Trophy held? And wasn't there one year when it was cancelled, maybe in the '70s?
Last one was raced at Mallory Park, 3 races there & then on to Brands for three races in 1991.
In 1975 the Brands Hatch round was cancelled due to snow!
#41
Posted 22 May 2009 - 07:45
#42
Posted 22 May 2009 - 07:51
#43
Posted 22 May 2009 - 08:11
Re stickers, start one then Stu, all mine are stuck on photo albums, but I can photograph them & post up the results so I can join in!!
Must you
#44
Posted 22 May 2009 - 09:13
Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.
Edited by picblanc, 22 February 2012 - 21:06.
#45
Posted 22 May 2009 - 09:19
Exactly my thoughts!Blimey! I never realised/remembered that Read ever rode a Kwacker!
#46
Posted 23 May 2009 - 20:30
Kenny Roberts 1976 @ Brands Hatch on the OW29/30? 750 Yamaha.
Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.
Pat Hennen on the same day 1976, he signed for Suzuki GB for 1977.
Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.
#47
Posted 23 May 2009 - 20:51
And was the Suzuki GB team he signed to ride for in '77 the Heron team, alongside Sheene?
#48
Posted 23 May 2009 - 21:24
http://www.motorcycl...OFinduction.asp
For 1977 Pat was recruited by the Suzuki GB ( aka Heron ) team , apparently much to the displeasure of Barry Sheene, who manoeuvered to have his good friend Steve Parrish also drafted in the team, so as to have at least one team-mate "on his side" ....
#49
Posted 24 May 2009 - 03:17
Who ran the Suzuki Hennon is riding in your pic, Graham?
The TR750 was owned by Colemans, the New Zealand Suzuki distributors, who identified and supported Pat's talent from day one when he appeared for NZ's Marlboro Series in 1973, turning out as a protege of Ron Grant on the Jon Allnatt-fettled Sayonara Suzuki 500 twin.
#50
Posted 24 May 2009 - 08:30
Who ran the Suzuki Hennon is riding in your pic, Graham?
And was the Suzuki GB team he signed to ride for in '77 the Heron team, alongside Sheene?
Cant really add anymore to what Philippe & Glenn have said, other than if you ask most people which American was the first to win a 500cc/MotoGP (hate that title!) race, sadly Pat would not be the first person on people's lips, it took 3 goes for his younger brother David to get him inducted into the AMA hall of fame!
1977
Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics
1978 a couple of weeks before the TT
Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.
Edited by picblanc, 19 February 2012 - 23:26.