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#101 Twin Window

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Posted 21 October 2004 - 13:27

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#102 bill moffat

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Posted 21 October 2004 - 13:59

I thought Barry McGuigan rallycrossed a Vauxhall Nova...

#103 petefenelon

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Posted 21 October 2004 - 14:30

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So was the dazed expression due to the ethanol in the pub or the methanol in the racing car?;)

#104 petefenelon

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Posted 21 October 2004 - 14:35

There's of course "Thursdays" nightclub that sponsored Alan Jones' RAM March F5000.....

and who was it that had a car sponsored by "Pubs and Clubs" (just that - no further explanation) on the hills in the late 70s? Brain says Chris Cramer, AD-O, or Roy the Boy, in that order of probability, but head is full of cotton wool and brain has been drinking Lemsip Max today and may be a bit woozy.

Someone also had "Gruenhalle" sponsorship on the hills, which was Greenalls' attempt to make their p*sswasser lager sound Continental. "Start 'em young on junior beer" as they used to say in Viz ;)

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Posted 21 October 2004 - 14:58

Originally posted by petefenelon
There's of course "Thursdays" nightclub that sponsored Alan Jones' RAM March F5000.....

and who was it that had a car sponsored by "Pubs and Clubs" (just that - no further explanation) on the hills in the late 70s? Brain says Chris Cramer, AD-O, or Roy the Boy, in that order of probability, but head is full of cotton wool and brain has been drinking Lemsip Max today and may be a bit woozy.

Someone also had "Gruenhalle" sponsorship on the hills, which was Greenalls' attempt to make their p*sswasser lager sound Continental. "Start 'em young on junior beer" as they used to say in Viz ;)


Wasn't there a "Fridays" as well :confused: I'm sure I remember a RAM Chevron with "Fridays" on the nose - as opposed to "Thursdays"...

Oh no, not Grunhalle - remember that stuff? :( Very grim.

It was Chris Cramer who had their backing with his various Marches down the years - mid to late seventies, if not even into the early eighties, or whenever he gave up.

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Posted 21 October 2004 - 14:59

Originally posted by petefenelon
There's of course "Thursdays" nightclub that sponsored Alan Jones' RAM March F5000.....

and who was it that had a car sponsored by "Pubs and Clubs" (just that - no further explanation) on the hills in the late 70s? Brain says Chris Cramer, AD-O, or Roy the Boy, in that order of probability, but head is full of cotton wool and brain has been drinking Lemsip Max today and may be a bit woozy.

Someone also had "Gruenhalle" sponsorship on the hills, which was Greenalls' attempt to make their p*sswasser lager sound Continental. "Start 'em young on junior beer" as they used to say in Viz ;)


That name of that filthy Grunhalle stuff was on the car of either Cramer or AD-O, can't remember which one, but definitely a March. Dunno about "Pubs and Clubs", though. One of my favourute cars on the hills was the March-Allegro Turbo, driven by Rob Oldaker, with the "Vroooom" slogan (used to acvertise the Allegro) on the rear wing.

Oh bugger it Mark, you've just stolen my thunder!

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Posted 21 October 2004 - 15:02

Have YOU been grabbed by the Gruenhalles? ;P

Nice to see Rob Oldaker's Longbridge-related turbocharged engine history goes back long before the EX.257 project ;)

#108 petefenelon

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Posted 21 October 2004 - 15:11

Over here we have various claims for Fridays, Tuesdays and Thursdays as RAM's sponsor.

"Oh I wish I was in Greenall Whitley Land where beer is cool and hearts are warm"

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Posted 21 October 2004 - 15:20

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"Autosport journalist Marcus Pye was enraged to find that his beanie hat and both of his spare false moustaches had been stolen from his office desk".

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Posted 21 October 2004 - 15:23

Originally posted by rdrcr
Institutions in America:

Seibkins Bar at the Resort in Elkhart Lake is world famous as is the bar at the Seneca Lodge in Watkins Glen.

But for the best wing you need to go to Quaker Steak and Lube.

http://www.lubewings.com/

Check it out. All types of racing
Awsome decor.
They make you sign a waver before you order the "Hot" sauce on the famous chicken wings.
I order that stuff by the case and have it shipped to Canada.
The Harley Bar is as memorable as the good selection of Beers.
It's a chain and if you want to combine your love of food and drink and racing, get a franchise for your neck of the world.

#111 Twin Window

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Posted 21 October 2004 - 15:42

Originally posted by petefenelon

So was the dazed expression due to the ethanol in the pub or the methanol in the racing car?;)

Neither... :)

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Posted 21 October 2004 - 16:59

Chaps, yeah RAM had both Thursdays (the March 751) and Fridays (the Chevron B24/28) backing them in the mid-70s. Did the Ginger one have connections there I wonder ?

On the hills issue, its always bothered me as to how Chris Cramer got the Greenalls deal. from memory he was based in the Cotswolds area, while Greenalls were exclusively, in those days, in the NorthWest. Later sold out to the deVere Hotel people, and the brewery to the Tetley combine. The March 722 Allegro, wasn't there a chap called Andy Smith also involved ??

#113 Twin Window

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Posted 21 October 2004 - 18:13

I must admit that the Friday's sponsorship doesn't conjure up an image for me, Dan. Do you have a pic? I know that somewhere I've got a ticket for Thursday's, but can I find it? Can I eckerslike...

I remember Tony Dean carrying signage for 'Cinderella's' and 'Rockerfella's' on his F5000 Chevron during the mid-seventies.

And does anyone recall the 'Funny Girl' logos which appeared on a few F1 drivers' helmets in 1972 (I think). Was that a club... or maybe it was a magazine. I forget!

#114 David Beard

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Posted 21 October 2004 - 18:40

Originally posted by bill moffat


"Autosport journalist Marcus Pye was enraged to find that his beanie hat and both of his spare false moustaches had been stolen from his office desk".


:lol: Glad to hear the taches were false. Excluding Keke, you can never trust a man with a moustache..........

#115 Twin Window

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Posted 21 October 2004 - 18:53

Er, thanks...

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#116 David Beard

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Posted 21 October 2004 - 20:22

Originally posted by Twin Window
Er, thanks...

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Sorry :lol:

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#117 David Beard

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Posted 21 October 2004 - 20:25

We used to hear a lot about the Steering Wheel Club, somewhere in London.
Had a bent Moss steering wheel on the wall IIRC.
Does it still exist?

#118 Twin Window

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Posted 21 October 2004 - 20:54

Originally posted by David Beard

Sorry :lol:

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Posted 21 October 2004 - 21:04

Originally posted by René de Boer
This is a nice thread, and probably some material for future articles...

Some of the "places to be" near circuits I have been to:

- The bar at the Dorint hotel at the Nürburgring, although it is a bit clean. With the right people, it still can be fun.


Rene,
Is it THIS bar or the one at the back near the hotel rooms?

Loved that place at Zeltwig you mentioned...

Jp

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#120 rdrcr

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Posted 22 October 2004 - 03:59

I have to laugh... when I think of all the bench-racin' done in these watering holes... who ever said that drinking and driving don't mix, haven't hung out with this crowd!


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Posted 22 October 2004 - 08:02

Originally posted by Twin Window
Neither... :)

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I like the way it says "Dent" on the nose cone. Sounds like an invitation for other drivers to run over it.

#122 petefenelon

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Posted 22 October 2004 - 10:21

Originally posted by David Beard


:lol: Glad to hear the taches were false. Excluding Keke, you can never trust a man with a moustache..........


Aye, got to be a full set, blokes with 'taches only are highly suspect ;) (and blokes with beards only look like trolls or Belgian theologians....);)

#123 Twin Window

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Posted 22 October 2004 - 18:40

Originally posted by ian senior

I like the way it says "Dent" on the nose cone. Sounds like an invitation for other drivers to run over it.

And there are those who maintain that's exactly what happened...

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#124 MCS

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Posted 23 October 2004 - 20:05

Anybody familiar with "The Portobello Inn" ?

Tony Trimmer's efforts in F5000 were often supported by the said "Inn" - I'm sure it must have been a real place, but have any of us been there ?

Was it (as I assume) in Kent and, therefore, not in West London, or have I got it completely wrong...?

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Posted 23 October 2004 - 20:17

Originally posted by MCS
Anybody familiar with "The Portobello Inn" ?

Tony Trimmer's efforts in F5000 were often supported by the said "Inn"

Somewhat surprisingly, this was taken on my Instamatic at Brands in 1973...

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I showed it to Sheri once (circa 1981), and he loved it!

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Posted 23 October 2004 - 20:53

Whoa :clap: :clap: :clap: - what a picture, Twinny :up:

What's "Black Diamond" though? :confused:
Was it a drink?

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Posted 23 October 2004 - 20:59

Originally posted by MCS

What's "Black Diamond" though? :confused:

Was it a drink?

Not sure... are you thinking of 'Double Diamond' (..works wonders, works wonders...!) Or maybe it was a cookery ware line? As in non-stick pans.

#128 MCS

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Posted 23 October 2004 - 21:09

Originally posted by Twin Window
Not sure... are you thinking of 'Double Diamond' (..works wonders, works wonders...!)


God, no. I'd erased that from my memory years ago and now you've made me feel quite unwell I'll have you know - and doubtless anybody else reading this for that matter :lol:

So, come on, where's the Portobello Inn then? Wasn't it near Brands?

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#129 Geoff E

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Posted 23 October 2004 - 21:46

Originally posted by MCS

So, come on, where's the Portobello Inn then? Wasn't it near Brands?

Mark


Post 7 of this thread says it is.

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Posted 24 October 2004 - 08:27

Ah, hah...well spotted Geoff.

Must look it up sometime methinks

Thanks
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Posted 24 October 2004 - 22:20

Anyone remember The Dinorben Arms? ... Used to sponsor Kim Mather's F2 Chevron and Richard Peacock's Formula Ford exploits in the late 70s.

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Posted 24 October 2004 - 22:23

...and The Tickled Trout :) A hostelry in Preston, sponsor of John Kent's F. Ford.

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Posted 25 October 2004 - 07:58

Originally posted by paulsenna1
Anyone remember The Dinorben Arms? ... Used to sponsor Kim Mather's F2 Chevron and Richard Peacock's Formula Ford exploits in the late 70s.

Paul.


Yes, went there once. Bodfari, North Wales. Huge pub I recall (foody pub).

Chap that ran it was a fellow called Gilbert - good bloke, really enjoyed his racing.

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Posted 25 October 2004 - 09:32

Dinorben Arms, Tickled Trout -- it's amazing the deals people would cook up to avoid drinking in the fairly basic Aintree clubhouse ;)

(which survived the passing of racing there - my sister used to pull the odd pint of mild in there for Aintree Villa FC and its hangers-on when she was in her early teens ;P)

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Posted 25 October 2004 - 09:50

Originally posted by MCS


So, come on, where's the Portobello Inn then? Wasn't it near Brands?

Mark


On the A20 @ West Kingsdown. The ex-landlord is a good buddy of mine and he has some wondeful tales about Brands Hatch in the glory years.

He's never mentioned the T.L. sponsorship but knowing the characters involved I suspect that this deal was brokered late at night after a few beers and a lot of laughter. I'll find out and let you know..

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Posted 28 October 2004 - 02:11

Used to go to the Steering Wheel Club in London on Curzon St, was surprised to see the ladies of the evening. :)

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Posted 15 November 2004 - 15:55

Originally posted by D-Type


As promised, I’ve been through Mon Ami Mate and have found that the pubs and restaurants listed below. Some have been mentioned already on this thread.

For Mike Hawthorn we have

The Barley Mow, Tilford
The Duke of Cambridge, Farnham
The Bush, Farnham
The Sally Lunn Restaurant, Bagshot
The Bricklayer’s Arms, Midhurst
The Spread Eagle Hotel, Midhurst
The Frensham Ponds Hotel, Rowledge?
The Bluebell, Rowledge?
The Star, Belgrave Square, London
The Talbot Hotel, Ripley
The Duke of Cumberland, Henley on the Hill
Hotel Albergo Reale, Modena
Auberge de la Garenne, Reims

and for Peter Collins

The Black Boy, Bewdley
L’Etoile, Paris
L’Action Automobile, Avenue d’Iena, Paris
Hotel Miami, Rue des Acacias, Paris
Fred Payne’s Bar, Rue Pigalle, Paris
The Old Inn, Crawfordsburn, Northern Ireland
The Angel Hotel, Bourne

Are any of these still in existence and worth visiting?



Black Boy in Bewdley is still there. Mike Hawthorn drove there after the death of Peter Collins.
On the peter Collins theme, there is also the Dog at Harvington also known as the Talbot, I believe that this was owned by Peter Collins Grandfather. This pub is right next door to where the Collins lived before Shatterford Grange and this is next door to the first garage owned by Peters father ( it is now a Skoda garage. Just down the road is St Marys Church where Peter is buried.

#138 Ren de Boer

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Posted 15 November 2004 - 16:43

Originally posted by jonpollak


Rene,
Is it THIS bar or the one at the back near the hotel rooms?

Jp


Sorry for the late reply, I haven't been following this thread for a while. Your picture is showing the bar at the entrance, the one closer to the rooms is nicer (and more convenient, depending on where in the hotel you are staying).

But, basically, any bar or restaurant near a circuit can be good during a race meeting, depending on the people that are there. Favourites near the Nurburgring also include Gasthaus Weber in Wiesemscheid, 5 km down the road, where they have the best Jägerschnitzels in town and Kölsch beer flowing rapidly... and the "Lanterna" pizzeria in Zermüllen.

A fortnight ago, I was at the Ferrari Maserati Finals in Monza and stayed in the Sant'Eustorgio Hotel in Arcore. Excellent restaurant and a beautiful collection of black- and white photographs on the wall and it took me a lot of effort to keep my colleague from taking the large Gilles Villeneuve picture with him...

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Posted 15 November 2004 - 16:50

CARBURANDO CAFE

It is a thematic bar that was created more ago than 5 years with the
objective of which the fanatics of motoring had a place where they
could be joined, eat, and enjoy the exhibited objects, that were
yielded by the protagonists of this sport, parades of promoters, etc

Carbureting Coffee it has two giant screens, 70 television sets
with individual or sectored programming, system of wireless audio
reinforcement of and system of lights to be used like discoteca. The
system can be connected with the truck of exteriors to make
presentations or deliveries special of prizes. This bar this located
in my city Avellaneda Buenos Aires Argentina

Alejandro



http://www.carburand...stitucional.asp

http://www.canoprens...arbuCafe-01.htm

http://www.canoprens...arbuCafe-02.htm


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#140 Twin Window

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Posted 20 December 2004 - 17:26

This is the pub belonging to Regga I mentioned a while back on post #91 in this thread...

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Posted 22 December 2004 - 10:50

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I don’t no how many times the Clay Pup has changed the ownership, remaining only the name. Like al others bars at Lugano the people goes there on begin, after about a half maximal a full year this change and it’s very hard to balance the costs with the entrances.

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Posted 07 January 2005 - 11:15

Just found this thread. Cant see any mention of the Pit and Paddock Bar at the Master Robert Motel on the Great West Road near Heston. Walls and ceiling carried the signatures of just about every top driver of the 60's, proximity to Heathrow being a factor. I was last there on 31 Dec 1974 but understand it has long since been redecorated and all the graffiti lost - a great tragedy.

Star of Belgravia used to be where the taste of visiting the RACMSA (then in Belgrave Square) could be washed away with Fullers ESB?

#143 Huw Jadvantich

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Posted 07 January 2005 - 12:26

My first drive was also at Pendine, aged six or so.
There was a restaurant in Manhattan which you could meet some well known motor racing people.
Interesting the mention of 'The Bugatti' near Prescott Hillclimb. Most of the entrants used The Royal Oak (or King's Head, I forget which) which was another mile up the road past the Bugatti, which had far better beer and more atmoshere. The Bugatti was actually crap; neither the owners or regulars were in the slightest bit interested in motorsport, with just one token Bugatti picture on the wall, unlike the Green Man, which is the only place you can pass Chris Amon on the way to your pit stop.
There used to be a tiny bar called 'Cesare's' in Porto Cesareo near the Speed Bowl of Nardo, barely bigger than the twist grip table football game in the middle of it. Ferrari, Mercedes Porsche BMW Lamborghini Renault, and Jaguar's highly secretive(!) teams crowded into this place at night competing in international table football games. Nobody could understand a word of each others languages until enough of the local vino had been consumed, at which point things would become incredibly noisy and competitive. I heard a Mercedes bloke ask his competitor across the table which city his football skill came from (in broken English). 'Coventry' came the short reply. The German said 'I don't know ver zat iss' the Englishman looked up for a second and said 'You should do, you bombed the bastard', at which point it suddenly went deathly quiet.........

#144 Huw Jadvantich

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Posted 07 January 2005 - 23:27

Did anybody ever go to 'Thursdays', who sponsored Alan Jones F5000 effort?

#145 Twin Window

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Posted 07 January 2005 - 23:49

No, I didn't, but I did have a free admission ticket (which I can't flamin' find now... :mad: )

I think that if you read this entire thread, you'll find references to 'Fridays' too. Now I don't remember that personally, but perhaps you will...?

Oh, and the first time my brother and I drove cars was on Pendine Sands too! :up:

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Posted 08 January 2005 - 04:21

I know it's not a pub, but what is the restaurant in Buenos Aires that everyone used to go to? When I went there in 97 & 98 the place was covered in pictures of drivers/owners sat in the very restaurant. Indeed, on my 98 visit I was on the adjoining table to Damon Hill & all the Jordan Honda boys (food fight an' all)

#147 MCS

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Posted 12 January 2005 - 22:01

Originally posted by Huw Jadvantich
Did anybody ever go to 'Thursdays', who sponsored Alan Jones F5000 effort?


If it was on Kensington High Street (north side) then yes, but don't ask me anything else :drunk:

Except one thing - I'm sure it was years after the RAM/Walker, Jones sponsorship in F5000... :confused:

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#148 Mallory Dan

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Posted 13 January 2005 - 12:45

Mark, definitely 1975, the RAM/Thursdays March 75A F5000 car.

#149 MCS

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Posted 13 January 2005 - 13:23

Yes, 1975 as you say Dan, but I'm sure when I went it was 1979 or even 1980...maybe I'm mistaken.

As the saying on The Fast Show went "I was very, very drunk at the time." ;)

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Posted 29 January 2005 - 11:03

Just found this at the back of a book shelf, guess about 1970 looks to be just pre decimalisation (in 1971) - they were getting people used to "new pence".

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