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[René de Boer]

Inspired by the many regional meetings of British TNF-members, I just wanted to find out whether any of the Dutch regulars and/or irregulars might be interested in having a meeting at some time during the winter months, to exchange some gossip and share some nice stories, preferably but not necessarily motor racing-related...

As a location, I would suggest the Motel Maarsbergen (which happens to be only 10 km away from where I live), because it is more or less centrally located (on the A12 motorway) and has some significance for historic motor racing fans - it is on the grounds of Kasteel Maarsbergen, where Carel Godin de Beaufort used to live. But any other suggestions are fine with me, too.

Is Saturday, November 13, in the afternoon an option?

[Frank de Jong]

Well, why not? I might be able to come, not 100% sure at the moment. Location is fine by me.
Edit: I'll be there. And in between a little holiday - I'll guess I have a nice tan by then

[Twin Window]

René - a couple of vital questions...

What are the vlees kroketten like? Is the jonge jenever ok? And would I be near a good broodje bar...?



Op ons fietsen!

[Mischa Bijenhof]

Originally posted by Twin Window
René - a couple of vital questions...

What are the vlees kroketten like? Is the jonge jenever ok? And would I be near a good broodje bar...?



Op ons fietsen!

That would be a broodje bal Twinny. And although I may not be able to come op de fiets, it sounds like a good idea to me.

[Twin Window]

Sorry - I meant the place where you can buy the broodjes from!

Not necessarily from an automatiek, but the (sometimes mobile) 'shop'!

Mattijs thinks I'm mad, but sometimes I feel like I need this food!

I love it! (memories of all my great days in the Netherlands...)

[D-Type]

Ner, you just want to show off your linguistic skills!

[René de Boer]

@ Twinny:

Don't worry about the catering, that should be all right !

[lustigson]

I'm not a regular TNF contributor, but I might be interested as well. Especially, since it's not too far away from where I live, either.

[Henri Greuter]

Originally posted by lustigson
I'm not a regular TNF contributor, but I might be interested as well. Especially, since it's not too far away from where I live, either.

I'm affraid tha't it is quite far away from me but if something is possible to get nearby by train and someone can pick me uP? Why not?
Good idea!


Henri Greuter

[René de Boer]

@ Henri:

There is a train station in Maarn (Utrecht-Arnhem) where I could pick you up. Or, alternatively, when you are coming from the east of the country, in Veenendaal. We'll work something out!

[Henri Greuter]

Originally posted by René de Boer
@ Henri:

There is a train station in Maarn (Utrecht-Arnhem) where I could pick you up. Or, alternatively, when you are coming from the east of the country, in Veenendaal. We'll work something out!

I'm from Edam, but Maarn Station must be possible for me. Thanks!

Henri

[jorism]

I don't post much, but I look at TNF daily.........but the 13th November is my birthday and I would like to come

[mat1]

November 13th is fine with me, but I am not sure I will be able to attend. Family and so on....

But we'll see.

mat1

[Racer.Demon]

A short message from my holiday address that I am interested too, but will only know whether I am available that date when I'm home in a few days.

I agree with Stuart that those are vital questions but not to be asked in the posh surroundings of the Beaufort estate - but on second thought they might be as irreverent as Carel, his sport and his motel.

So where are the other cloggies?

[Twin Window]

Originally posted by Racer.Demon

cloggies

...and get back on the sun-lounger, matey! (I know I would!)

[gerrit stevens]

Originally posted by René de Boer
Inspired by the many regional meetings of British TNF-members, I just wanted to find out whether any of the Dutch regulars and/or irregulars might be interested in having a meeting at some time during the winter months, to exchange some gossip and share some nice stories, preferably but not necessarily motor racing-related...

As a location, I would suggest the Motel Maarsbergen (which happens to be only 10 km away from where I live), because it is more or less centrally located (on the A12 motorway) and has some significance for historic motor racing fans - it is on the grounds of Kasteel Maarsbergen, where Carel Godin de Beaufort used to live. But any other suggestions are fine with me, too.

Is Saturday, November 13, in the afternoon an option?

Rene

it is a great idea. But I won't be able to attend this meeting on November 13th. My first "free" Saturday will be December 4.


Gerrit Stevens

[RTH]

Originally posted by Twin Window


I love it! (memories of all my great days in the Netherlands...)

In my , admittedly small experience of Holland it is a truly lovely place everywhere is so clean and tidy , no clutter, no mess tastefully laid out, lovely countryside, the people are delightful, friendly courteous, welcoming, hospitable, it seems just about everyone is fluent in English, and unlike near neighbours very happy to speak it and all the girls appear to have naturally fair hair and that lovely honey coloured skin. The Netherlands are a well kept secret and a credit to the people who live there.
Good luck with your get together - let us have some photos !

[jorism]

Now, can we held a meeting on another date?

[Arjan de Roos]

Now its in the clogs then?

The Motel is a great place to meet. Its quite convenient and cosy. Time stood still in a way.

We can admire the Nurnburgring photo that is still hanging in the Motel Restaurant.

[Frank de Jong]

Perhaps a poll about the date would be the solution?
Seriously, 4 dec and 11 dec are not possible for me, so we'll not be able to find a date which suits everybody, I guess. Jorism, why don't you celebrate your birthday with us? Saves us from splitting the bill - yet another fine dutch habit...

[Arjan de Roos]

For the agenda I would like to propose two things (if we agree upon it of course):

1. A walk around the grounds of the estate;
2. A visit to the Driebergen outdoor kart track which is quite nearby.

Just some thoughts.

[lustigson]

Originally posted by Arjan de Roos
2. A visit to the Driebergen outdoor kart track which is quite nearby.

I'm always in for a round of karting... especially when it's outside.

[Mischa Bijenhof]

I'm in for karting as well!

[Twin Window]

I'm not bothered about the karting, but I'm going to try to make it anyway. Try being the operative word...

I've just remembered that I'm not keen on frikadels. That's a sort of sausage thing, right?

But vleeskroketten... hmmmm, lekker!!

[Frank de Jong]

I don't care much for karting either (outdoor in november - brrr) but I look forward to some nice chat.

[Arjan de Roos]

The Driebergen outdoor kart track is a long standing one. Its deceased owner Boy was quite a pioneer and renowned person in international karting. His widow and son still run the track and can recall quite some stories. E.g. Ermanno Cuoghi who was a good karting friend of them.

It is just an option for program. The restaurant will be warm and cosy in November, dont worry.

[René de Boer]

Karting doesn't sound bad, either. I don't know whether it is allowed to have a tour at Kasteel Maarsbergen, as I think it is private property and not open to the general public (not that we are just general public, but you know what I mean).

But the date will probably remain a problem. December 4 is impossible for me, because I am in Austria. Maybe December 11 is a possiblity, provided I am not covering the ski races in Val d'Isère. But to me, November 13 remains favourite.

[jorism]

Don't have to care for me- when most people want it on 13th November then you should do it on that date.

[Racer.Demon]

Love all the plans but won't be making it on Nov 13, as I will (have to) celebrate both my father-in-law and brother-in-law's birthdays on that day. God knows why I forgot about those when on holiday!

But please go ahead and don't let me interrupt your plans. I'm sure I will be visiting the motel and the estate grounds on my own on several other occasions. And why ever should this be a single occasion?

As for visiting Kasteel Maarsbergen, I'm certain that is out of the question. With Carel's biography that is soon to appear, his sister - who is the current inhabitant - has literally closed the book on her brother and wishes to be left alone by racing fans from now on...

Fluff tidbit - I share our host's taste in Dutch fast food. Loathe the frikandellen, but love the kroketten...

[paulhooft]

Als het even kan, kom ik ook
I think I come, if I find time!!
I am at a wedding in Rhenen, that is 15 km away
Is the book on Carel Godin de Beaufort already out then???
may be we can contact the writer to come and autograph it???
Paul Hooft

[René de Boer]

So, here we are, pleased to announce:

What: 1st Dutch gathering of AtlasF1 TNF-Members

When: Saturday, November 13, 12.00 noon till approx. 3.00 pm

Where: Motel Maarsbergen (Motorway Utrecht-Arnhem A12, exit 22 Maarsbergen)

Open to anyone interested in motorsport past and present, cars etc.

Bring your old- and youngtimers, books, photographs and whatever you want to show

Share your stories with fellow enthusiasts

Ask the questions you want to ask

Meet the people you want to meet

Be there!

For more information, you can call me at +31 318 50 32 15
And please, post it here when you will be attending, so that I know how many people to expect!

[lustigson]

Great, René. I'll be there! Not too many others, yet, though.;)

And what about karting. That's still to be decided while we're there?

[jorism]

Yes, a great idea, but can't come unfortunately............

Overigens, kan iemand foto's van het kasteeltje en het motel hier posten na de meeting?

[Arjan de Roos]

I quite sure to make it at 12:00

I will bring:

-1- My CGdB photo collection I purchased over the years;
-2- The 1/43rd model car project I am preparing on CGdB: Porsche 718 F2, Porsche at Le Mans and others...;
-3- My helmet (and right foot) for karting.

Until the 13th!

[Racer.Demon]

Originally posted by Racer.Demon
Love all the plans but won't be making it on Nov 13, as I will (have to) celebrate both my father-in-law and brother-in-law's birthdays on that day. God knows why I forgot about those when on holiday!

Might be able to make it after all. Suddenly all festivities have moved to Sunday the 14th...

[Frank de Jong]

I'll be there.
I could bring a self-modified 1/43 1974 Alpina 2002 or a 1973 1972-style Grab Capri ;)
I'll bring a digital camera. If anyone wants a lift from Amsterdam, I could pick you up at Amsterdam Lelylaan - send me a PM in that case.

[René de Boer]

Excellent!

Today, I was on a press trip together with well-known and long-standing Dutch motorsports journalist, Rob Wiedenhoff. I have invited him as well and he promised to be there, too.

I don't know about the karting. I won't be able to make it, but if anyone wants to go to Driebergen afterwards, feel free!

[Mischa Bijenhof]

Count me in!

[Racer.Demon]

Originally posted by René de Boer
Today, I was on a press trip together with well-known and long-standing Dutch motorsports journalist, Rob Wiedenhoff. I have invited him as well and he promised to be there, too.

So even more Carel talk then!

Incidentally, Frits van Someren will be signing his new book on Beaufort the week after - November 20 at Autonet Carbooks in Rotterdam. Several TNF'ers will be on hand too...

[Barry Boor]

Speaking as a British TNF-get-togetherer, I wish you all a very enjoyable meeting and may it be the first of many.

Forza T.N.F!!!!

[Henri Greuter]

Let me ask it in Dutch...


Voor degenen die per openbaar vervoer willen/moeten komen,
welk treinstation is het meest dichtbij?
En zijn er eventueel mensen bereid iemand op te pikken in zo'n geval?



Henri Greuter

[Frank de Jong]

Henri,

je had de vraag al een keer gesteld, maar als je Amsterdam Lelylaan kunt bereiken kun de rest met mij meerijden. En ook Rene heeft suggesties (zie post #9)

[Arjan de Roos]

Maarn dus.

I will be circling around in the area by car. Give me a call on my mobile.

5100.0443

[Twin Window]

Originally posted by Arjan de Roos

I will be circling around in the area by car.

En Engels... sorry, I can't do it!

I was going to say "Be careful - in England you can get arrested for that."

Can I get really good vleeskroketten via mail order?

[Rob Ryder]

Originally posted by Twin Window
I was going to say "Be careful - in England you can get arrested for that."

For more information... contact Tomas Scheckter :rotfl:

[Arjan de Roos]

Oops, well let me say Holland is a quite liberal country (until recently that is).

[Henri Greuter]

Originally posted by Frank de Jong
Henri,

je had de vraag al een keer gesteld, maar als je Amsterdam Lelylaan kunt bereiken kun de rest met mij meerijden. En ook Rene heeft suggesties (zie post #9)

Hoi Frank,

Was dat alweer vergeten, het waren me de weken wel....
Hoe laat was jij van plan te vertrekken vanaf Station Lely?



Henri

[Frank de Jong]

ca 11.00, zijn we ruim op tijd.

[Henri Greuter]

Originally posted by Frank de Jong
ca 11.00, zijn we ruim op tijd.

Ik maak dat ik er ben Frank,
Heb je een bepaalde plek in gedachte waar ik het beste kan staan?
Alvast bedankt!

Henri

[René de Boer]

Latest update: Ed Heuvink, the author of the book on Scuderia Filipinetti, has promised to be there as well.