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[Twin Window]

Originally posted by dolomite

[dolomite]

Hmmm.
You might be in amongst this lot somewhere then!

[Rob Ryder]

Originally posted by dolomite
I've dug out these shots that I took at the GP at Brands in 1980. Any TNFers recognise themselves?
I bet that Nordic1 bloke is in there somewhere.
Oh, and see how many Zenith Es you can spot

Dolomite, did you use Photoshop to remove the 8ft catch fences and 100ft run off areas?
Great shots.. brings back many memories of warm sunmmer days at Brands.

[nico]

Rob,
Many thanks for your kind words.
To show that the Christmas spirit hasnt gone yet here is another shot of the good Doctor:







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[David Lawson]

Couldn't see myself in those 1980 pictures but I was there. I had traded my Zenith E and Prinzflex lenses for an Olympus OM1 by the 1974 British GP but for these shots of the 1970 race I was still using a fixed 35mm lens Kodak Retinette 1B.







The majority of the circuit is still without armco - railway sleepers and barriers fitted by 1972 I think, and the photographers on the outside of the track just before Bottom Bend look a bit vulnerable...

David

[nico]

These are from Monaco in 88:

Prost at Sainte Devote:


Bernd Schneider running back to the pits after his own car broke out on the track during final qualifying. He failed to make the cut:


Piquet:


One of my favorites. Enrico Bertaggia wins the F3 race. In amongst the marshals at the front are family and team members. The chap in red is Alex Caffi who would race in the following days GP:


Talk of the Devil:


Berger and Prost during their battle for second position:


Prost at Tabac:


Senna entering the swimming pool during Saturday qualifying.
Not a great shot but its just used to illustrate what it was like to witness Aryton that day. In the wonderful interview which Jenks conducted for the 90 edition of Autocourse, Senna discribes driving in a "sub-concious" way. This was the only time i have ever been "nervous" while spectating (except for being right next to the huge smash at Spa in 98 - but thats another story).
To this day i cant believe how much speed Aryton took entering the corner, visually MUCH quicker than anyone else. He looked for all the World like he was going to crash into the armco at my feet.
Truly scary!

[DOHC]

I think the last two are just great pictures, thanks!

[Twin Window]

Even more proof that a Kodak 'Instamatic' really wasn't the thing to have for action shots!

Jody Scheckter in a McLaren M19 at the 1972 Victory Race at Brands Hatch.



The F Atlantic grids blasts off at the 1975 Race of Champions meeting, Brands Hatch.



James Hunt chases down Ronnie Perterson having lost time with a spin, damaging the rear wing. Oulton 1972.



The F Atlantic field pour into Old Hall at the start of their race supporting the 1973 Oulton Park Gold Cup.



Ronnie leads the field on the first lap of the 1972 Victory Race at Brands Hatch.



Lauda passes his pit board while in the lead of the 1974 Race of Champions at Brands Hatch.



The weather at Brands Hatch was nicer for the British GP than for the Victory Race!



Cyd Williams an JPS promo girls on the grid for the F Atlantic race supporting the 1974 International Trophy at Silverstone.



Bev Bond on the grid for the same race. He lost his drive to Alan Jones soon afterwards.



Even crappier pic, but look at Rollinson with 2 wheels on the grass - in the wet - at Mallory Park, 1973.

[Milan Fistonic]

Not an F1 car but definitely an F1 driver - and a world champ at that.

[WDH74]

Themed together-the Cobra Ferrari Wars!

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A Daytona and a GTO, both taken fairly recently.


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[WDH74]

If at first, etc.....


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[DOHC]

Here's a rare picture of Ickx in Saturday practice at the 1974 Swedish GP, testing the 72 with a "1974-style" airbox in place of the usual "anvil" style 72 airbox.



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[Twin Window]

I imagine Michael Oliver will wish he'd seen that photo just a little earlier...

Certainly not an airbox I've seen before!

[David Beard]

Originally posted by Twin Window
I imagine Michael Oliver will wish he'd seen that photo just a little earlier...

Certainly not an airbox I've seen before!

I'm glad he didn't see it earlier...it's 'orrible.

[DOHC]

Hmm, maybe, but it's available for the 2nd edition... So is additional material.

[DOHC]

Meanwhile, Peterson was testing various configurations of the T76, see my pix in the 76 thread.

[Ruairidh]

Originally posted by DOHC
Here's a rare picture of Ickx in Saturday practice at the 1974 Swedish GP, testing the 72 with a "1974-style" airbox in place of the usual "anvil" style 72 airbox.



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Fantastic - I hadn't seen that in action before. Thanks for posting.

[DOHC]

Originally posted by Ruairidh
Fantastic - I hadn't seen that in action before. Thanks for posting.

Glad you liked it, Ruairidh!

[Rob Ryder]

DOHC, you have posted some excellent photos from the 1974 Swedish Grand Prix, the last was very special for me, a Jacky Ickx fan!
Did you take any photos of the BRM P201's? (my favourite team ) Rob

[Twin Window]

Originally posted by Rob Ryder

Did you take any photos of the BRM P201's?

:salivating smiley:

[Ruairidh]

Originally posted by Twin Window
:salivating smiley:

Hey, this Lotus fan has been smiling sweetly for the past couple of days from DOHC's wonderful shots of Lotus' tests and trials from that Swedish weekend of 30 years ago.

Twinny - out of interest, do you recall whether the MotorSport library has similar shots from mid-70s GPs?

[Michael Oliver]

Originally posted by Twin Window
I imagine Michael Oliver will wish he'd seen that photo just a little earlier...

Certainly not an airbox I've seen before!

Interesting indeed! Never mind, at least I managed to get the Hesketh airbox on the Embassy 72 raced by Keizan in South Africa in 74!

[Ruairidh]

Originally posted by DOHC
Hmm, maybe, but it's available for the 2nd edition... So is additional material.

a second edition with additional material would be nice! (first edition was pretty exceptional)

[Michael Oliver]

Originally posted by Ruairidh


a second edition with additional material would be nice! (first edition was pretty exceptional)

Thanks guys, but we've got to sell the first edition first

Also, putting new and different photos and text is a lot more expensive than a straightforward reprint, which is what I suspect will be on the cards if the book ever goes out of print...

But keep the photos coming, you can never have too many and every now and then there are gems like the Ickx one...

[Ruairidh]

Originally posted by Michael Oliver


Thanks guys, but we've got to sell the first edition first

Also, putting new and different photos and text is a lot more expensive than a straightforward reprint, which is what I suspect will be on the cards if the book ever goes out of print...

Understood and that first edition is one of my very favorite books

[Twin Window]

Originally posted by Ruairidh

Twinny - out of interest, do you recall whether the MotorSport library has similar shots from mid-70s GPs?

I spent a couple of years working in the LAT archive*, both as an archivist and as picture editor of Motor Sport, and I've not seen that airbox before, Ruairidh!

Is that what you meant?

* LAT effectively originated as an archive of Motor Sport and Motoring News photographers work.

[nico]

Panda in the Life, Silverstone 90:



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[Twin Window]

Originally posted by nico

Panda in the Life, Silverstone 90:

Did you take that on my Instamatic, Nick?!

[DOHC]

Well, for all Lotus fans, to keep the 72 rolling then, here's a few more from '73:


Admittedly one of my worst shots:



This shows Fittipaldi in Saturday practice in the 72/R7, and the only interest in this picture seems to be the drooping left front wing, which contradicts the statement in Mike's wonderful (I don't think it can be improved, really) book on p. 131, which suggests that "[Fittipaldi's] car shows evidence of contact during the race, since the left-front nose fin is drooping." In fact the R7's front wing was sagging all weekend, and the team never got it straightened. Even the wing's endplate was worn off due to contact with the tarmac already on Saturday, which is clearly visible in this shot...


And then Peterson on pole with Cevert on P2, just before the flag drops:




Finally, as we know, Fittipaldi never made it to the chequered flag in '73, and "pulled out" after the race:




Can the mechanic in the car be identified?



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[Twin Window]

Originally posted by DOHC

Can the mechanic in the car be identified?

Short-arse?

More great shots, matey!

Now, as previously requested, plllleeeeeeeeaaaaaaaasssse can we see some of your BRM masterpieces?

[Ruairidh]

Originally posted by Twin Window
I spent a couple of years working in the LAT archive*, both as an archivist and as picture editor of Motor Sport, and I've not seen that airbox before, Ruairidh!

Is that what you meant?

* LAT effectively originated as an archive of Motor Sport and Motoring News photographers work.

Kind of. I guess I'm interested in the depth and breadth of the LAT archive. No reason - just pure idle curiousity - would the archives for any GP in, say the 60's or 70's include practice shots of every car; just race shots of the leaders or somewhere in between? Were there one or two staff photographers there throughout a GP weekend or were freelancers used? Just wondering how much is in that archive that even the folks who bought every MN or MS in that period would not have seen?

[Ruairidh]

Originally posted by DOHC
Well, for all Lotus fans, to keep the 72 rolling then, here's a few more from '73:


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Thank You. Thank You. Thank You. Thank You. Thank You. Thank You. Thank You. Thank You.

Quite made my day!!!!!!!

[h4887]

To keep our feet on the ground, here's some grass roots racing, ho, ho...

Geoff

[h4887]

And these are from an HSCC meeting at Brands in 1986

Geoff

[Andrew Kitson]

Some early Mallory photos from Steve Bradley.

Not much run-off from Devil's Elbow in those days, but on this occasion in '66, the club circuit 'Castrol chicane' link (from the Esses to the Elbow) was being used.


Single seaters ready for the off 1965. Jim Moore's Cooper on pole, David Prophet in the middle, Tommy Reid nearest camera with winner Alan Rollinson on row 2.


Sports/saloons also in 1965.

[Twin Window]

Originally posted by Ruairidh

Just wondering how much is in that archive that even the folks who bought every MN or MS in that period would not have seen?

More than you can ever imagine, Ruairidh...

When I was there the estimate was that the archive held around ten million images, and they've acquired other archives since.

Geoff - where were the grasstrack shots taken?

Andrew - handily placed telegraph pole there at Mallory!

[Option1]

Originally posted by Twin Window
...

Andrew - handily placed telegraph pole there at Mallory!

At least it was protected by some bales and what appears to be a fairly solid-looking block of concrete. It probably wouldn't have suffered too much damage if any of those blokes had slipped on the grass into it.;)

Or as your smiley said so effectively, EEEEEEKKKKKK!!

Neil

[h4887]

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Geoff - where were the grasstrack shots taken?
QUOTE]

Stuart,
I think it was at Little Hallingbury, near Bishops Stortford.

Geoff

[Doug Nye]

Here's a random BRM selection - plus one interloper - pix from The GP Library, of course...


1


2


3


4


5


6


7


8


9

...and a Happy New Year to everyone from GPL ...

DCN

[Twin Window]

Thanks a lot for that, Doug!

And a Happy New Year to you at GPL too...

[RTH]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by h4887
[QUOTE
Geoff - where were the grasstrack shots taken?
QUOTE]

Stuart,
I think it was at Little Hallingbury, near Bishops Stortford.

Geoff [/QUOTE]
Have you got an address , because that is only 5 miles from here , and I was not aware of an Autocross venue in the area ?

[Rob Ryder]

Brilliant Doug.. you have made an old BRM fan happy

Edit: no mistakes I hope..

1. 1972 Clermont-Ferrand P160B Jean-Pierre Beltoise
2. 1972 Clermont-Ferrand P160B Peter Gethin
3. 1972 Clermont-Ferrand P160B Helmut Marko (Twinny, no twisted cockpit!)
4. 1972 Clermont-Ferrand P160B Reine Wisell
5. 1968 Spa-Francorchamps P126 Piers Courage
6. 1968 Lotus 56 Pratt & Whitney Graham Hill
7. 1970 Clermont-Ferrand P153 George Eaton
8. 1970 Clermont-Ferrand P153 Jackie Oliver
9. 1970 Monaco P153 Jackie Oliver

[DOHC]

Well, Doug, I wish I could have supplied some of those BRM pix, except # 4, with that horribly skewed wing!

Great thanks for #6 though, is that taken at Hethel at some of the first test runs of he 56? The ads seem to have been permuted, or perhaps there were differences between different 56 chassis? It looks like it was taken at the same time as the front cover image of the 1968 summer edition of the Lotus magazine, though. April 1968?

[Doug Nye]

Originally posted by Rob Ryder
...you have made an old BRM fan happy

I say! Steady on....

[h4887]

Originally posted by RTH

Have you got an address , because that is only 5 miles from here , and I was not aware of an Autocross venue in the area ?

Richard,
Research has shown that that event was actually at Jenkin's farm, Navestock. The only other grasstrack I've ever been to was definitely at Hallingbury, but as it was about 25 years ago I can't remember the exact location, and I've no idea if it's still in use.

Geoff

[Twin Window]

Originally posted by Rob Ryder

3. 1972 Clermont-Ferrand P160B Helmut Marko (Twinny, no twisted cockpit!)

Rob - take another look, and see how the screen lines up compared to the rad inlet. Then look at Gethin's at the same corner...

[Twin Window]

Ray Mallock on the grid for the F Atlantic race supporting the 1974 International Trophy. Duckworth and Bellamy top right.


James Hunt on the grid prior to the 1974 Race of Champions at Brands Hatch.


Escort Mexico races were good value - this is Steve Thompson on the grid for one at Snett in 1973.


Penthouse Pets pose with Wendy Markey on the grid at Silverstone, Int Trophy meeting 1974.


I think Tony Trimmer was in a Lola for the F Atlantic race.

[MCS]

Trimmer in a Lola. Okay.

What was Mallock driving?

Mark

[MCS]

Originally posted by MCS
Trimmer in a Lola. Okay.

What was Mallock driving?

Mark

Hang on - I'm getting ahead of myself again...was Trimmer in a Royale RP20 ???

And whilst I'm at it, was Mallock in an Ensign of some description ???

Sad really. My memory is showing some good signs of working at the thirty years ago point, but I can't remember what I did last Monday.

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYBODY ON TNF AND THEIR FAMILIES AND FRIENDS !!!

(I've been summoned to the kitchen...)

Mark

[nico]

The happiest of new years to everyone

These are from the French GP 1990

Prost and Senna on the grid:




Ron Dennis and Cesare Fiorio with Jean Todt looking on:


How many can you spot?


Mansell and Berger before the off:


The start:


De Cesaris:


Prost chasing down Capelli for the win:


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