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#2551 Twin Window

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Posted 04 February 2008 - 01:49

Great semi-candid photo of Jim Clark at Indy!

Is the middle shot Peter Gethin, John? Aside from Phil Hill and an early Chaparral, I can't ID the circuit in pic three...

BTW those are nice Atlantic pics, TT.

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#2552 jj2728

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Posted 04 February 2008 - 02:10

Originally posted by Twin Window

Aside from Phil Hill and an early Chaparral, I can't ID the circuit in pic three...


Gethin at Mid-Ohio 1970
Daytona 1967

#2553 jj2728

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Posted 04 February 2008 - 02:27

Next batch.

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#2554 Chris Townsend

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Posted 04 February 2008 - 09:17

Originally posted by TooTall
Formula Atlantic support race at the 1978 Long Beach Grand Prix.

Jeff Wood in a March 78B leads Chip Mead in a Ralt RT1
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Race winner Howdy Holmes March leads the March of Danny Sullivan, Willy T. Ribbs March 77 and the Chevron B39 of James Crawley.
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Bill Brack in a March 78B leads Bobby Rahal in a Ralt RT1.
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Cheers,
Kurt O.



Kurt these are great pics. Do you have more Atlantic material like this?

Chris

#2555 Phil Rainford

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Posted 04 February 2008 - 21:09

Originally posted by Peter Morley


Has anyone got any other photos of this car (March 85B F3000) when Roger Orgee raced it?
Or later in its carer when it was sprinted by Jonathan Toulmin?

Also information such as race entries and results would also be appreciated.

It is the latest addition to the collection so any information (& spare parts!!) would be appreciated.

Thank you
Peter



Shot taken at Oulton Park.

The engine is not about to blow at Knickerbrook...as the marshall is highlighting there is rather a lot of chalk dust due to an oil leak in the previous race

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Phil

#2556 gio66

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Posted 04 February 2008 - 22:06

Originally posted by Twin Window
I'm only making an educated guess here, but from top-to-bottom I think it's as follows;

1975 - there's something not-quite-1974 about Regga's jacket!

1974 - NGH was wearing a Bell lid (it's a Griffin in the pic) in 1973 and didn't drive in 1975.

1973 - only if it's an F1 pic of Follmer; if it's a Can-Am shot it could be '74.

1972 - couldn't be any other year.

My hunch is that they were all taken at Watkins Glen.


Thank you so much!

#2557 Simon Arron

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Posted 05 February 2008 - 20:25

Autumn 1976. The Damned release New Rose (broadly acknowledged as the first British punk single), but the UK charts are still awash with Demis Roussos (When Forever Has Gone), Abba (Dancing Queen) and Smokie (I'll Meet You At Midnight). Meanwhile, on October 2 (superfluous piece of information: Phil Rainford's 16th birthday), there's a race meeting going on at Oulton Park...

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CP (Paul?) Haworth studies his parking technique from atop the Lodge banking. Unfortunately, his Chevron B8 is facing the oncoming traffic.

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I apologise that this really isn't very sharp, but I suspect it might have a certain rarity value that will appeal to ORC central. I think the car is Richard Simms's Chevron B24, but the driver is Special Saloon escapee Jim Evans. I can't make out the name on the side of the cockpit (no evidence of the word 'Evans'), so I'll have to trust my contemporary captioning accuracy.

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Maintaining a cloak of obscurity, whatever became of José de Uriarte after his Open Single Seater campaign in 1976? Nice typography, José...

And finally, a Vauxhall Viva-sized quiz...
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I've told you where and when, but who can name the driver?

#2558 Phil Rainford

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Posted 05 February 2008 - 20:42

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Simon Arron
[B]Autumn 1976. The Damned release New Rose (broadly acknowledged as the first British punk single)

.....followed the following month by The Sex Pistols “Anarchy in the UK” :up:

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#2559 sterling49

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Posted 05 February 2008 - 21:20

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Phil Rainford
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Simon Arron
[B]Autumn 1976. The Damned release New Rose (broadly acknowledged as the first British punk single)

.....followed the following month by The Sex Pistols “Anarchy in the UK” :up:

Kind regards

Phil
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....and when myself and the future "clerk of works" went to the "Black Prince" at Bexley to see a gig, the audience were jumping up and down whilst dressed in bin liners joined together with the aid of safety pins, aiming large, shall we say, oral liquids, at the stage, we felt a tad old (at 23 :lol: ) and left for a quiet drink instead.......

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#2560 Tim Murray

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Posted 05 February 2008 - 21:36

Somewhere I still have my ticket to see the Damned and the Sex Pistols at Bristol's Colston Hall (Dec '76). The concert was banned by Bristol City Council following the infamous Pistols/Bill Grundy episode. 'New Rose' is still one of my favourites.

#2561 Mallory Dan

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Posted 06 February 2008 - 11:55

Is the Viva Mike Newman, Simon? The writing on the side of the B24/B28, its not 'Bob Howlings' is it? The Uriarte 762 has nice bonnet louvres doesn't it, I recall these on 753/75Bs, not on 762s though?

First Jam single was March 77 I think, In The City. About the time of the only Lyncar F1 win IIRC...

#2562 Phil Rainford

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Posted 06 February 2008 - 13:04

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mallory Dan
First Jam single was March 77 I think, In The City.



Don't get me started on the Jam !!;)

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#2563 Phil Rainford

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Posted 06 February 2008 - 13:09

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Simon Arron
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For the benefit of Mr Kitson, here is an assorment of 1970s junk...

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Tony Worswick limbers up for a future assault on the British F3000 series by monstering Paul Chadwick's Mini.



As if by magic ................ although Paul Chadwick's Mini seems to have disapperared

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#2564 Mallory Dan

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Posted 06 February 2008 - 13:26

Is that Reynard showing a Dianetics badge Phil? Weren't they the odd Phillipe de Henning religion lot? L Ron Hubbard or something.

Are you a PW fan too?

#2565 Simon Arron

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Posted 06 February 2008 - 14:06

Originally posted by Mallory Dan
Is the Viva Mike Newman, Simon? The writing on the side of the B24/B28, it's not 'Bob Howlings' is it? The Uriarte 762 has nice bonnet louvres doesn't it, I recall these on 753/75Bs, not on 762s though.

Not Mike Newman, Dan. His Viva was turquoise and orange, this one was brown and gold.

Don't think it says Bob Howlings on the Chevron - I am 100 per cent sure Jim Evans is the driver, though. Winstanley might remember, I think he was in the same race.

I thought the Uriarte car looked more like a 752, to be honest.

And Rainford used to be the school bore on all matters Jam (although, to be fair, I was guilty of the same when it came to Camel, Barclay James Harvest or Gabriel-era Genesis). At one stage, I recall Phil rambling on endlessly about a forthcoming Blondie gig and then not being able to get in when he arrived... The rest of the William Hulme GS lower sixth found that passably amusing.

Going back to the Viva, the driver's surname has distinctive musical overtones that hark back to the pioneering days of new wave...

#2566 Mallory Dan

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Posted 06 February 2008 - 14:13

Ken Costello??

#2567 Andrew Kitson

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Posted 06 February 2008 - 14:15

Originally posted by Simon Arron

And Rainford used to be the school bore on all matters Jam (although, to be fair, I was guilty of the same when it came to Gabriel-era Genesis, Camel or Barclay James Harvest). At the time, Phil's finest musical moment was going on for weeks on end about a forthcoming Blondie gig and then not being able to get in when he got there...


I went to a Cambridge gig to see Van der Graff Generator...who didn't turn up, so the promoter put on this band called 'Blondie' instead, none of us had ever heard of, about 25 people there as VdGG had cancelled. Thought Blondie were particularly bad and would never get anywhere, but Debbie Harry eh.... better looking than that Van der graff Generator lot! I went to see BJH just the other week!

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Posted 06 February 2008 - 14:16

Originally posted by Mallory Dan
Ken Costello??

Didn't know Ken raced a Viva if it's him...always a quick Mini man racing the Longman's, Alexander's, Guy Edwards etc.

#2569 Simon Arron

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Posted 06 February 2008 - 14:18

Originally posted by Mallory Dan
Ken Costello??

Close. My caption says Barry Costello, but I suppose that might be wrong.

#2570 Peter Darley

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Posted 06 February 2008 - 14:35

Originally posted by Simon Arron

Close. My caption says Barry Costello, but I suppose that might be wrong.


I seem to remember the name Ken Costello linked with racing MGBs'

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Posted 06 February 2008 - 17:00

Originally posted by Peter Darley


I seem to remember the name Ken Costello linked with racing MGBs'


Ken was a local guy from Sidcup and was mainly associated with racing a lovely,white, 1,293 "S" (IIRC entered by Crippspeed Racing), he did, however, offer conversions of the MGB to Rover V-8 power, just before the factory marketed a model of this vehicle.

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Posted 06 February 2008 - 17:04

Originally posted by Simon Arron
[B]

(although, to be fair, I was guilty of the same when it came to Camel, Barclay James Harvest or Gabriel-era Genesis). /B]

Simon has a modicum of taste! Excellent in fact I'd say, "Once Again" ;)

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 05:23

Originally posted by Chris Townsend


Kurt these are great pics. Do you have more Atlantic material like this?

Chris


Thank you Chris. Here are a few more from Long Beach 1978. It's the only Formula Atlantic I have on hand at the moment. I always enjoyed the FA races at Long Beach. It was a chance to see some of the locals mix it up with the series regulars.

First two were shot through the chainlink so not the best.

Keke Rosberg's Chevron B45
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Steve "Gas" Saleen's March 76B. Steve later went on to build some fast Mustangs and the S7 supercar.
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Kevin Cogan,s Ralt RT-1 leads Dan Marvin's March 76B
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Rick Koehler in the March 77 based Excalibur EE2B leads Cliff Hansen in a March 78B with a home brewed Ferrari-esque nose.
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John Bauer's March 77B leads Fred Greenfield's Tui BH2
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Cheers,
Kurt O.

#2574 Peter Morley

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 08:43

Originally posted by Phil Rainford



Shot taken at Oulton Park.

The engine is not about to blow at Knickerbrook...as the marshall is highlighting there is rather a lot of chalk dust due to an oil leak in the previous race

Kind regards

Phil


Thanks for that.

Glad to see someone else has similar musical taste - I saw the Pistols at the time, plus at Zeebrugge when they reformed, and Crystal Palace when they reformed again....

Peter

#2575 Alan Cox

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 10:55

Which was the year that Roger Orgee raced it, Peter? I should have some photos from Oulton and Mallory, IIRC.

#2576 Mallory Dan

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 12:40

Originally posted by Alan Cox
Which was the year that Roger Orgee raced it, Peter? I should have some photos from Oulton and Mallory, IIRC.


1987-88 at a guess Alan.

#2577 David Winstanley

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 20:15

Originally posted by Simon Arron


Don't think it says Bob Howlings on the Chevron - I am 100 per cent sure Jim Evans is the driver, though. Winstanley might remember, I think he was in the same race.

I thought the Uriarte car looked more like a 752, to be honest.


Well I don't remember it, apart from crashing into car 14 while lapping him but I did find this which will help.
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#2578 Simon Arron

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 20:22

Excellent find, Mr W. That means the car behind you and Ken Bailey (in a picture you posted several millennia ago) was probably David Muter's Lotus 69.

Cheers, and hope to see you in early March,
SA

#2579 Alan Cox

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 21:59

I'm sorry to admit that I seem to have very few photos of TNFer Alan Raine in action, but here is one which appears to be from a monoposto race, if the tyres are anything to go by
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And one for Gregor, of his dad from 1990 AMOC meeting, Oulton Park, in Geoffrey Marsh's DBR4
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#2580 Gregor Marshall

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 22:37

Originally posted by Alan Cox
I'm sorry to admit that I seem to have very few photos of TNFer Alan Raine in action, but here is one which appears to be from a monoposto race, if the tyres are anything to go by
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And one for Gregor, of his dad from 1990 AMOC meeting, Oulton Park, in Geoffrey Marsh's DBR4
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Wow, what a terrible picture of Dad and the DBR4 (great picture from you though Alan!!). I always hated that helmet (Centurion IIRC) and it was squareish and the overralls are Brands Hatch instructor overralls, what was Dad thinking, haha!!

Out of interest Alan I have Dad down as doing one race in '90 at Oulton in the DBR4, 15th September, qualified 2nd and won; would these dates be the same?

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 22:47

Originally posted by Alan Cox
I'm sorry to admit that I seem to have very few photos of TNFer Alan Raine in action, but here is one which appears to be from a monoposto race, if the tyres are anything to go by
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That's possibly because you pan to fast.

Yes it was Monoposto. As I shared the car we could do Formula Ford and Monoposto at the same meeting. Slicks were great if the tyres could get hot enough to work on a Formula Ford without changing the settings.

It's also the first time, and almost certainly the last, that I've had a photo alongside big Gerry. The sublime to the ridiculous :)

#2582 Simon Arron

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 23:38

I'd like to present the following as a contender in the sublime/ridiculous stakes...

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The idiot in the foreground (me, basically) is a handful of laps away from inflicting serious bodily harm on the Zeus ZR1 (hit the fence very hard just before Becketts - green paint was still visible on the sleepers about two years later). Among the pit clutter in the background, you might just pick out a West Surrey Racing Ralt RT3 (fiefdom of one A Senna). Has a greater talent gulf ever have been captured in a single photograph?

No idea who is driving the Mallock to the left, but Mallory Dan might oblige...

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 08:22

Could be Creighton Brown's Mallock, but there again no idea who that is entering the pit lane in the far distance...

This looks like the Zeus you drove Simon, Peter Sneller's car IIRC? Silverstone 1982, John Village leads in the Crompton Lighting RP29 ( could be an RP31) with team mate John 'Butcher' Booth behind Andy Wallace (no. 3).
The green Zeus follows Keith Fine (no 7).
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Talking of Andy Wallace, is this him at Donington? No notes with these photos, but dated on the back 1982 also.
The RfB on the side makes me think it is Andy, plus sponsored by Sieger. Weren't they a gas appliance outfit and Andy worked as a gas engineer?
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Donington again, Christian Danner F2 March 1982.
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Back to clubmans, Will Hoy in Hugh Chamberlain's car, Silverstone '82.
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#2584 gerard BARATHIEU

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 09:56

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about a precedent threat the COOPER ok KEN BOOTH at MONTLHERY in 1985.

sorry it is not on the track !!!!

#2585 Twin Window

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 10:42

Originally posted by Andrew Kitson

Talking of Andy Wallace, is this him at Donington?

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Looks like David Hunt to me...

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 12:40

Spot on TW, its Hunt. He finished 6th behind, Bailey, Morris, Reid, Gugelmin and Gilbert-Scott. Some talent there! I wonder how he got the RfB money, never that quick was he?

Simon, how about Mike Donovan for the Mallock, purely a guess?

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 12:44

Rob Cox Black Brick

A car and driver not often talked about, but very quick in period.


Sieger were long time sponsors, also appearing on Brundles F3 Ralt. I guess they where part of the Racing For Britain effort.

#2588 Allen Brown

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 14:11

Originally posted by David Winstanley


Well I don't remember it, apart from crashing into car 14 while lapping him but I did find this which will help.
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What a treat for a results junkie like me! Do you have any more old libre results in your scrapbook David?

Allen

#2589 Mallory Dan

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 14:57

Originally posted by Nordic
Rob Cox Black Brick

A car and driver not often talked about, but very quick in period.


Sieger were long time sponsors, also appearing on Brundles F3 Ralt. I guess they where part of the Racing For Britain effort.


Rupert, quite amazingly I've just posted something re the Brick on the other place, about 20 mins ago!

#2590 Phil Rainford

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 17:50

Originally posted by Simon Arron
I'd like to present the following as a contender in the sublime/ridiculous stakes...

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The idiot in the foreground (me, basically) is a handful of laps away from inflicting serious bodily harm on the Zeus ZR1 (hit the fence very hard just before Becketts - green paint was still visible on the sleepers about two years later). Among the pit clutter in the background, you might just pick out a West Surrey Racing Ralt RT3 (fiefdom of one A Senna). Has a greater talent gulf ever have been captured in a single photograph?

No idea who is driving the Mallock to the left, but Mallory Dan might oblige...


The Zeus driven by two slightly quicker incumbents:

Peter Sneller at Mallory Park

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Roger Eccleston ( Cannot remember if he actually purchased the Zeus or hired it for this race ) followed by David Mellor and Malcolm Barfoot

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Sorry didn't manage to find a shot with Ayrton Senna in the background but here he is from Brands Hatch in 1986

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 18:23

Originally posted by Phil Rainford


The Zeus driven by two slightly quicker incumbents:

Peter Sneller at Mallory Park

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Roger Eccleston ( Cannot remember if he actually purchased the Zeus or hired it for this race ) followed by David Mellor and Malcolm Barfoot

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Peter Sneller seemed to be a pretty decent driver. Am I right in thinking that Zeus was Peter and his brother, and the car was used as the design for Silverstone Racing School vehicle for the punters.

I have a vague recollection of good old Rog E driving a Zeus (I may have been in the same race). It's possibly a Champion of Oulton round as the Zeus might not have been allowed in Formula E. I'm certain he didn't buy it and I'm sure hire might relate to lend :)

Roger for all his escapades was decent bloke and it was nice to meet up with brother Peter at Oulton last year. Peter has since had a raced at Anglesey so hopefully has caught the bug again :)

#2592 Phil Rainford

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 20:26

[QUOTE]Originally posted by alansart
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That's possibly because you pan to fast.

Alan

Another couple of images of your PRS ....managed to get them on your slowing down lap, normally you were past me before I could take a shot ;)

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Kind regards

Phil

#2593 Phil Rainford

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 20:31

Originally posted by Simon Arron
I'd like to present the following as a contender in the sublime/ridiculous stakes...

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The idiot in the foreground (me, basically) is a handful of laps away from inflicting serious bodily harm on the Zeus ZR1 (hit the fence very hard just before Becketts - green paint was still visible on the sleepers about two years later). Among the pit clutter in the background, you might just pick out a West Surrey Racing Ralt RT3 (fiefdom of one A Senna). Has a greater talent gulf ever have been captured in a single photograph?

No idea who is driving the Mallock to the left, but Mallory Dan might oblige...


Back to clubmans, Will Hoy in Hugh Chamberlain's car, Silverstone '82.
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If the memory is correct Mr Arron didn't you also visit the Northamptonshire vegetation in Will Hoy's Mallock?

Kind regards

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#2594 Alan Cox

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 22:27

Has this combination appeared on here before? Ginger Marshall with his Reliant Kitten from 1987
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I have a number of pictures of the Eccleston brothers' cars in various un-raceworthy states. This is from Mallory, 1987
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Two ace snappers at rest, British GP 1986. Autosport's one-time northern correspondent, Paul Boothroyd, explains to young upstart, Phil Rainford, all about f-stops and focal length
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Posted 08 February 2008 - 23:02

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Phil Rainford
[QUOTE]Originally posted by alansart
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That's possibly because you pan to fast.

Alan

Another couple of images of your PRS ....managed to get them on your slowing down lap, normally you were past me before I could take a shot ;)

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Kind regards

Phil
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My car, but not me. My brother in law, Andrew Whitehouse is driving. The top picture is a good one. we were trying to figure out if running an airbox made any difference. All it gave us was a misfire.

The Madgwick sticker on his visor comes from a Cadwell meeting when Antonio Albacate's helmet failed scrutineering and Antonio borrowed Andrew's helmet for his race. I have a piccy somewhere that I can post.

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 23:06

Originally posted by Alan Cox

I have a number of pictures of the Eccleston brothers' cars in various un-raceworthy states. This is from Mallory, 1987
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Not an usual position at times. Roger could be fearless! He made a few enemies but I had no problem with him, and liked him.

It helped that he was a lot further up the grid than me so I kept out of his way :)

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Posted 09 February 2008 - 00:01

Originally posted by Alan Cox
Two ace snappers at rest, British GP 1986. Autosport's one-time northern correspondent, Paul Boothroyd, explains to young upstart, Phil Rainford, all about f-stops and focal length
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Best picture on this thread!!

#2598 Simon Arron

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Posted 09 February 2008 - 01:27

Originally posted by Phil Rainford
If my memory is correct Mr Arron, didn't you also visit the Northamptonshire vegetation in Will Hoy's Mallock?

Utter claptrap, Mr R. I spun it in Norfolk. Pic below shows Mallock pointing in the correct direction.

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Other than once threading a Jim Russell Van Diemen RF78 between plastic cones on the Hangar Straight, I had no circuit experience at all prior to clambering into Will's U2 at Snetterton. On about my second lap I assumed I was going fairly quickly... until a Renault 5TS zapped me into Riches. In fairness, I did repass it immediately and wasn't subsequently troubled by any hatchbacks (although I did almost sideswipe Mr Senna's FF2000 Van Diemen when he sliced past me at the Esses).

Unlike the Zeus, which was badly mangled, sadly, the Hoy Mallock sustained no serious damage when my confidence finally exceeded my car control (also at the Esses).

#2599 Andrew Kitson

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Posted 09 February 2008 - 09:40

Originally posted by Alan Cox
Has this combination appeared on here before? Ginger Marshall with his Reliant Kitten from 1987
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You can see this car in the paddock at Thruxton in my home movie:
http://uk.youtube.co...h?v=_ElCigojrno

I also did a few laps of Snett in 'Will Hoy' cars many years ago!
http://www.andrewkit...pages/akhoy.htm

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#2600 Alan Cox

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Posted 09 February 2008 - 09:40

Originally posted by Gregor Marshall
Best picture on this thread!!


No great critic of the photographic art then, Mr Marshall? :p