
10 heures de Spa 1934
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VDP
, Nov 23 2004 16:37
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#1
Posted 23 November 2004 - 16:37
I m looking for info on this race Results and reason for a shortened version of the 24 hours
I already know that the 24 hours were chaotic before WWII
Was it open to pure sports cars or modified tourism cars (ad least 4 seaters) ?
1 Desvignes / Mahé Bugatti ?
2 Vasselle / J Trévoux Hotchkiss
3 C Pintacuda/ H Stoffel Lancia Astura ?
4 Paolino / James Buick
5 ?
6 Elwes / Tongue Aston Martin Ulster ?
Thanks in advance
Robert
I already know that the 24 hours were chaotic before WWII
Was it open to pure sports cars or modified tourism cars (ad least 4 seaters) ?
1 Desvignes / Mahé Bugatti ?
2 Vasselle / J Trévoux Hotchkiss
3 C Pintacuda/ H Stoffel Lancia Astura ?
4 Paolino / James Buick
5 ?
6 Elwes / Tongue Aston Martin Ulster ?
Thanks in advance
Robert
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#2
Posted 23 November 2004 - 19:26
In 1934, the 24 Hours of Spa were replaced by a 10 Hours event.
#3
Posted 23 November 2004 - 19:47
5th were du Roy de Bliquy-de Berc on Bugatti 1042,771 km, average 104,277 km/h of course. They also 1st in the 1101-2000cc category.
Class winners:
-+4000cc Colas Hudson 1037,496 km.
-3001 to 4000cc: Trévoux-Vasselle Hotchkiss 1160,944 km
-2001 to 3000cc: Desvignes-Mahé Bugatti 1166, 110 km
-under 1100cc Breyer-Pizzimenti Fiat 972,663 km
Class winners:
-+4000cc Colas Hudson 1037,496 km.
-3001 to 4000cc: Trévoux-Vasselle Hotchkiss 1160,944 km
-2001 to 3000cc: Desvignes-Mahé Bugatti 1166, 110 km
-under 1100cc Breyer-Pizzimenti Fiat 972,663 km
#4
Posted 24 November 2004 - 17:14
There were 33 Starters in 5 classes:
more than 4 litre
1 old Bentley 4,5 from the end of the 30's
1 Railton with a Hudson-Terraplane engine 8 Cyl
2 Hudson 8Cyl. 4,1Litre
from 3 upto 4 litre
1 Buick 8 Cyl
1 Studebacker roadster
1 Plymouth
2 Hotchkiss 6 cylindre
1 Terraplane
from 2 upto 3 litre
1 Bugatti 3 litre ((Desvignes
3 Lancia Astura 8 Cyl. (Pintacuda/
1 Lancia 4 Cyl 2,7litre
from 1,1 upto 2 litre
1 Bugatti 2 litre
1 Aston Martin 1500
1 Singer 1900cc
4 Imperia (Adler) 1650cc traction avant
1 old 6 cyl Imperia
1 old FN
upto 1,1 litre
2 Amilcar
2 Tracta
3 BNC
1 MG
1 Fiat Balilla Sport
more to come ....
more than 4 litre
1 old Bentley 4,5 from the end of the 30's
1 Railton with a Hudson-Terraplane engine 8 Cyl
2 Hudson 8Cyl. 4,1Litre
from 3 upto 4 litre
1 Buick 8 Cyl
1 Studebacker roadster
1 Plymouth
2 Hotchkiss 6 cylindre
1 Terraplane
from 2 upto 3 litre
1 Bugatti 3 litre ((Desvignes
3 Lancia Astura 8 Cyl. (Pintacuda/
1 Lancia 4 Cyl 2,7litre
from 1,1 upto 2 litre
1 Bugatti 2 litre
1 Aston Martin 1500
1 Singer 1900cc
4 Imperia (Adler) 1650cc traction avant
1 old 6 cyl Imperia
1 old FN
upto 1,1 litre
2 Amilcar
2 Tracta
3 BNC
1 MG
1 Fiat Balilla Sport
more to come ....
#5
Posted 24 November 2004 - 18:17
Spa 10 Stundenrennen 1934 Klasse über 4 litre #2 Hertzberger/ Bentley 4,5 from the end of the 30's 1.CL 108,7km/h #4 Railton with a Hudson-Terraplane engine 8 Cyl #6 Andre/Colas Hudson 8Cyl. 4,1Litre 2.CL #8 Hudson 8Cyl. 4,1Litre from 3 upto 4 litre #20 James/Paolino Buick 8 Cyl 2.CL #24 Helaers/Thelusson Studebacker roadster 3.CL Plymouth Fernand Sommer Hotchkiss 6 cylindre #28 Trevoux /Vaselle Hotchkiss 6 cylindre 1.CL 116,09km/h Terraplane from 2 upto 3 litre #40 Desvignes/Mahe Bugatti 3 litre 1.CL 116,615km/h #48 Pintacuda/Nardini Lancia Astura 8 Cyl. 2.CL #46 Gouvion Lancia Astura 8 Cyl. 4.CL Lancia Astura 8 Cyl. #50 Dickey/Gary Lancia 4 Cyl 2,7litre 3.CL from 1,1 upto 2 litre #72 de Blicquy Bugatti 2 litre 1.CL 104,277km/h #74 Vincent/Elwes Aston Martin 1500 2.CL Singer 1900cc 4.CL #60 Imperia (Adler) 1650cc traction avant 3.CL #62 Hasse/Beck Imperia (Adler) 1650cc traction avant 5.CL #64 Imperia (Adler) 1650cc traction avant 6.CL Imperia (Adler) 1650cc traction avant #68 old 6 cyl Imperia SS 7.CL #76 old FN 8.CL upto 1,1 litre #80 Amilcar 4.CL #98 Amilcar 7.CL Tracta Tracta #90 BNC 5.CL #92 BNC 3.CL #94 BNC 6.CL #82 MG-Midget 2.CL #96 Breyre/Pizzimenti Fiat Balilla Sport 1.CL 97,266km/h
#6
Posted 24 November 2004 - 18:45
Thanks Hugo, Jean Maurice
Is Fernand Sommer relative to Raymond Sommer ?
The imperia were they Adler Trumpf under license ?
FN should be 1300 Sport
Aston Martin according Leif site Tongue ???
Again thanks a lot
Robert
Is Fernand Sommer relative to Raymond Sommer ?
The imperia were they Adler Trumpf under license ?
FN should be 1300 Sport
Aston Martin according Leif site Tongue ???
Again thanks a lot
Robert
#7
Posted 24 November 2004 - 19:03
Is Fernand Sommer relative to Raymond Sommer ? Yes He is Raymonds brother
The imperia were they Adler Trumpf under license ? Yes theese cars are belgium Adler
The imperia were they Adler Trumpf under license ? Yes theese cars are belgium Adler
#8
Posted 24 November 2004 - 20:33
Great Guys, with all respect, this is the old TNF style, a question will come in and one day later the results are online. Great.

#9
Posted 24 November 2004 - 21:06
Bentley 4.5 ?? Supercharged ??
Robert
Robert
#11
Posted 25 November 2004 - 13:37
Presumably the car behind the Hudson

#12
Posted 02 December 2004 - 01:38
Oh ! I missed that thread...
The entry list
more than 4 litre
2, Bentley 4384 cc, Eddy Hertzberger / (Kuppens)
4, Railton Hudson-Terraplane 4137 cc, Etienne Hage / Rosar
6, Hudson cabriolet 4168 cc, A. Colas / Ernest André
8, Hudson 4168 cc, H. J. Davis
10, Bugatti 5230 cc, Georges Bouriano / Max Thirion
from 3 upto 4 litre
20, Buick conduite intérieure 3820 cc, "James" / "Paolino"
22, Hotchkiss 3485 cc, "Remmos" = Fernand Sommer / Jean Delmer
24, Studebaker roadster 3621 cc, Freddy Théllusson / R. M. Hélaers
26, Essex Terraplane 3980 cc, Bravard
28, Hotchkiss 3500 cc, Jean Trévoux / Maurice Vasselle
30, Plymouth, P. Colmant / E. Declercq
from 2 upto 3 litre
40, Bugatti T44 us/c 2989 cc, Jean Desvignes / Norbert-Jean Mahé
42, Lancia Astura 2972 cc, Canciani / Spana
44, Lancia 2600 cc, Rovere / Camandone
46, Lancia Astura 2972 cc, Franz Gouvion / Guerrini
48, Lancia Astura 2972 cc, Carlo Pintacuda / Nardilli or Henri Stoffel
50, Lancia 2700 cc, "Dickery" = Laloux / "Gary" = Dejardin
from 1,1 upto 2 litre
60, Imperia Adler 1623 cc, O. Loehr / Hoffmann
62, Imperia Adler 1623 cc, Rudolf Hasse / Beck
64, Imperia Adler 1623 cc, Paul Schweder / Decerf
66, Imperia SS 1900 cc, Paul von Guilleaume / (Courtois)
68, Imperia SS 1800 cc, G. Hagemeyer / Smits
70, Bugatti 1990 cc, Bernard Chaudé / G. Foury
72, Bugatti 1990 cc, S. du Roy de Blicquy / de Berc
74, Aston Martin 1496 cc, Jim C. Elwes / "A.Vincent" = Reggie Tongue
76, FN 1850 cc, R. Pons / Beaupain
78, Singer 1191 cc, E. Ogez / Abel Blin d'Orimont or Renard
upto 1,1 litre
80, Amilcar, Arthur Duray / (de Gabardie)
82, MG Midget 847 cc, F. Humblet / Guy Hilgers
84, Tracta 1098 cc, H. Perrier / Dubourg
86, Tracta 1098 cc, D. Marchand / Pierre Perrier
88, Fiat Ballila 995 cc, Oscar Chilesotti /
90, BNC 1088 cc, Pierre Duval / André Sirejols
92, BNC 1097 cc, Manuel / Jean Treunet
94, BNC 996 cc, Alin / Métais
96, Fiat 508 Ballila 6 CV 995 cc, Franz Breyre / Pizzimenti
98, Amilcar 1076 cc, C. Demoulin / R. Raway
The entry list
more than 4 litre
2, Bentley 4384 cc, Eddy Hertzberger / (Kuppens)
4, Railton Hudson-Terraplane 4137 cc, Etienne Hage / Rosar
6, Hudson cabriolet 4168 cc, A. Colas / Ernest André
8, Hudson 4168 cc, H. J. Davis
10, Bugatti 5230 cc, Georges Bouriano / Max Thirion
from 3 upto 4 litre
20, Buick conduite intérieure 3820 cc, "James" / "Paolino"
22, Hotchkiss 3485 cc, "Remmos" = Fernand Sommer / Jean Delmer
24, Studebaker roadster 3621 cc, Freddy Théllusson / R. M. Hélaers
26, Essex Terraplane 3980 cc, Bravard
28, Hotchkiss 3500 cc, Jean Trévoux / Maurice Vasselle
30, Plymouth, P. Colmant / E. Declercq
from 2 upto 3 litre
40, Bugatti T44 us/c 2989 cc, Jean Desvignes / Norbert-Jean Mahé
42, Lancia Astura 2972 cc, Canciani / Spana
44, Lancia 2600 cc, Rovere / Camandone
46, Lancia Astura 2972 cc, Franz Gouvion / Guerrini
48, Lancia Astura 2972 cc, Carlo Pintacuda / Nardilli or Henri Stoffel
50, Lancia 2700 cc, "Dickery" = Laloux / "Gary" = Dejardin
from 1,1 upto 2 litre
60, Imperia Adler 1623 cc, O. Loehr / Hoffmann
62, Imperia Adler 1623 cc, Rudolf Hasse / Beck
64, Imperia Adler 1623 cc, Paul Schweder / Decerf
66, Imperia SS 1900 cc, Paul von Guilleaume / (Courtois)
68, Imperia SS 1800 cc, G. Hagemeyer / Smits
70, Bugatti 1990 cc, Bernard Chaudé / G. Foury
72, Bugatti 1990 cc, S. du Roy de Blicquy / de Berc
74, Aston Martin 1496 cc, Jim C. Elwes / "A.Vincent" = Reggie Tongue
76, FN 1850 cc, R. Pons / Beaupain
78, Singer 1191 cc, E. Ogez / Abel Blin d'Orimont or Renard
upto 1,1 litre
80, Amilcar, Arthur Duray / (de Gabardie)
82, MG Midget 847 cc, F. Humblet / Guy Hilgers
84, Tracta 1098 cc, H. Perrier / Dubourg
86, Tracta 1098 cc, D. Marchand / Pierre Perrier
88, Fiat Ballila 995 cc, Oscar Chilesotti /
90, BNC 1088 cc, Pierre Duval / André Sirejols
92, BNC 1097 cc, Manuel / Jean Treunet
94, BNC 996 cc, Alin / Métais
96, Fiat 508 Ballila 6 CV 995 cc, Franz Breyre / Pizzimenti
98, Amilcar 1076 cc, C. Demoulin / R. Raway
#13
Posted 02 December 2004 - 01:42
I would like to post the class results, as there was no official overall rankings, but I first have to compile all my sources... Very difficult to choose the best as I've seen lot's of discrepencies !