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#1 bern@rd

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Posted 07 February 2005 - 14:41

I don't know what some of the guys on the racing comments thread base their statements on, but the car looks good. Sure, the sidepods are not undercut, but just because the word "undercut" has been flying around a lot recently doesn't mean it's the benchamark of a fast car. Look at BAR last year.
The wishbones are interesting. They seem to get flatter and wider each year, and this year Redbull has set the standards on that area. They are gigantic! They seem to function as much as an aerodynamic device as wishbones. :up:

Interesting that they have arrived at the same conclusion with the sidepod chimney/winglet mounting as Williams. The winglet is mounted on the chimney.
The nose is almost rounded, plus it's very pointed. Reminds me of a pencil. And looking at the frontwing you can see there is some aerodynamic expertice over at RBracing. :D

The sidepods look very similar to last years, though a little more sculpted.
There's something going on at the bottom of the sidepods in front of the rearwheels under the flip-up. Looks like gills or multiple struts or some strange part of bodywork, but the pictures don't depict this are too much. :

I have to say I'm very positively surprised. With future of the team in the air, the technical team just seemed to go on designing this year's car. And especially for a lower part of the grid team this car looks phenomenally good. Even beautiful. Lets hope Jordan and minardi have cars this nice too.
I'm really looking forward to what Scarbs hs to say about this car. Never thought I'd say that about a redbull car. It looks like they mean business. :) :up:

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#2 FordFan

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Posted 07 February 2005 - 14:56

I looked like there was something interesting on the wishbones - vertical plates of some sort. I can't think of what they'd be for, except maybe for directing air somewhere while the car is turning.

#3 Jhope

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Posted 07 February 2005 - 14:59

The car is a modded Jag R5.

The new Cosworth-powered RB1 is a modified version of the Jaguar R5 after Austrian energy drink brand Red Bull bought that team from Ford in November.


Reuters

The team will be expecting an update by the 4th or 5th race of the season according to some reports.

#4 Ally_D

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Posted 07 February 2005 - 15:03

The car looks tidy enough, maybe not quite as refined as its richer competitors, but then again it was designed at a time when the entire future of the team was in doubt. The front suspension reminds me of the suspension on the 1996 McLaren (I think!), interesting concept to improve airflow to the rear of the car. I just hope the new owners of Cosworth do their job and produce an engine reliable enough and with enough horsepower to allow the team to challenge for points on occasion. Hope they surprise a few folk in their first year.

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Posted 07 February 2005 - 15:24

front 'four fifth' view of the RBR1

front 'four fifth' view of Jaguar R4


front three quarter view of Jaguar R5


You'll see that they have reverted to the R4 rather than the R5. The R5 had a modified version of the R4 nose, just drawn more down. As the new rules have the height limits on the noses, it seems they have grafted the R4 nose on. Probably have the R5 monocoque though in slightly modified form. Wonder if RBR will get the same ´tire problems Toyota is encountering as I seem to remember that the Jaguars were known to be 'tire eaters'.

As to the question if it's 'good looking' or 'efficient looking' I really wouldn't know.

#6 Jhope

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Posted 08 February 2005 - 03:05

I never noticed this on the R5, but the RB1 has one of the smallest and tightest coke-bottle rear ends on the grid!
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#7 david_martin

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Posted 08 February 2005 - 09:18

Originally posted by Jhope
I never noticed this on the R5, but the RB1 has one of the smallest and tightest coke-bottle rear ends on the grid!


You didn't notice it because the R5 was different around the rear of the side pods - it had rearward facing sidepod exits which were quite wide and fush with the sidepod top surface. The RB1 has switched to chimneys, allowing a lot more waisting of the top rear section of the side pods.

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Posted 08 February 2005 - 12:00

I would suspect, like most other teams: The largish FTWB's are in fact Covers which fit over the Wishbones and are in fact an Aerodynamic aid.

The covers are also used to hide away brake lines and electrical runs.

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Posted 08 February 2005 - 13:04

Would it be worth extending the front wing to meet up with the wishbone covers?

Or would that be highly illegal?

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Posted 08 February 2005 - 13:12

Originally posted by A Wheel Nut
Would it be worth extending the front wing to meet up with the wishbone covers?

Or would that be highly illegal?


http://www.fia.com/r...Regulations.pdf

3.11 Bodywork around the front wheels:

With the exception of brake cooling ducts, in plan view, there must
be no bodywork in the area formed by two longitudinal lines parallel
to and 400mm and 900mm from the car centre line and two
transversal lines, one 350mm forward of and one 800mm behind
the front wheel centre line.