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[Repco von Brabham]

This is the "Repco's List" of the top 100 best Argentinian Drivers from 1918 until March 2005.

My son is not there because he have just 19 years old..

In some cases, there is draw among the list positions,
Friends make your own list, and post her please!

(In bold, the World Champions)

1- Juan Manuel Fangio.
2- Carlos Alberto Reutemann
3- José Froilán Gonzales - Oscar Gálvez.
4- Luis Rubén Di Palma
5- Ángel Rubén "Negro" Monguzzi.
6- Oscar Larrauri - Sebastián Porto - José "Pechito" López.
7- Jorge Cupeiro - Juan Gálvez.
8- Miguel Angel Guerra - Onofre Marimóm - Gabriel Pozzo
9- Jorge Raúl Recalde.
10- Nestor García Veiga - Victor Rubén Rosso - Juan Manuel Fangio II
11- Carlos Ruesch - Quique Mansilla
12- Eduardo José Copello - Jorge Omar Del Río- Benedicto Caldarella.
13- Roberto Mières.
14- Norberto Fontana - Guillermo Ortelli.
15- Nasif Stéfano - Ernesto Blanco - Raúl "Polenta" Riganti.
16- Hector Luis Gradassi - Gurí Martínez.
17- Guillermo Maldonado - Miguel De Guidi - Guillermo Kissling.
18- Juan M. Traverso - Juan Manuel Bordeu.
19- Carlos Pairetti - Roberto Bonomi - Ramón Requejo.
20- Enrique Benamo II - Juan Carlos Giachino - Adalberto Scarazzini.
21- Jorge Juan Ternengo - Tito Bessone - Juan Carlos Rizzuto - Oscar Cabalén.
22- Fernando Croceri - Victor Hugo Plá - Silvio Oltra - Nicolas Filiberti - Cristhian Ledesma.
23- Gabriel Massei II - Juan Manuel Silva - Miguel Ángel Etchegaray.
24- Ernesto Mario Soto - Gabriel Raies.
25- Benedicto Campos - Jorge Emilio Serafini - René Zanatta
26- Rolo de Álzaga - Larry Rodríguez Larreta.
27- Osvaldo "Cocho" López - José Luis Di Palma.
28- Juan Pablo Zampa - Eduardo Rodríguez Canedo - Mario Gayraud - Martín de Álzaga Unzué.
29- Carlos María Marincovich - Roberto Mouras- Jorge Martínez Boero.
30- Walter Hernàndez - Marcos Di Palma - Esteban Fernandino II.
31- Ricardo Zunino - Carlos Garro - Pancho Alcuaz.
32- Gustavo Der Ohanessian - Juan Pablo Laskac.
33- Paco Mayorga - Ricardo Risati II - Armando J. Ríos.
34- Eugenio "Chipi" Brèard - Nestor Gurini
35- Adrián Hang - Norberto Picetti - Hector Pozzuetta
36- Carlos Facundo Menem Yoma
37- Ricardo Risati III - Norberto Pauloni
38- Oscar "Pincho" Castellano - Carlitos Pascualini
39- Osvaldo "Pato" Morresi - Ángel Rienzi - Ángel Rose Meunier - Domingo Bucci - Clemar Bucci.
40- Rubèn Daray - Claudio MENZI.
41- Emilio Bertolini - Emilio Satriano
42- Juan Pedro Heguy - Jorge Bescham - Patricio Di Palma
43- Marcelo Bugliotti.
44- Adolfo Schwelm Cruz - Pablo Birger - Emilio Barbalarga
45- Jorge Daponte - Carlos Lauricella.
45- Osvaldo Bessia - Guillermo Stegmann - Carlos Andreetta.
46- Petete Beamonte.
47- Pejerrey Belloso - Henry Martin.
48- Carlos Menditeguy - Roberto Urretavizcaya - Luis "Patita" Minervino.
49- Emiliano Spataro
50- Sebastian Martino.
51- Esteban Tuero - Gabriel Furlán.
52- Daniel Sancho - Ariel Baskt - Pablo Brea
53- Daniel Cingolani - Andrea Vianini - Omar Mura Cuvertino.
54- Danilo Bonamici
55- Rosmaldo Visintín - Ricardo Albertengo Sr.
56- Rodolfo Zuain - Dante Emiliozzi.
57- Norberto Parisi - Pepe Migliore.
58- Ezequiel Toia - Martin Basso - Pedro Doumic.
59- Rodolfo Marincovich - José Manzano.
60- Omar De Giovanni - Omar Tanoni - Walter Suriani
61- Omar Bonomo - Osvaldo Parmigiani
62- Ricardo Chourrout - Ruben Rullo - Juan Jose Reybet.
63- Carlos Jarke - Alberto Baldinelli
64- Miguel Angel Galluzzi
65- Raúl Kissling
66- Rubén Alonso
67- Beto Vallasciani - Mario Stillo - Miguel Torrás
68- Mauro Fartuszcek
69- Juan Bovonne
70- Carlos Ternengo - Cacho Fangio Espinoza - Carlos Zatuscek
71- Cesar Malnatti
72- Rubén Bulla
74- Hugo Lepphaille - Ernesto Bóssola - Jorge Perín
75- Hugo Fierros
76- Hugo Gimeno
77- Tulio Riva
78- Jurgen Nathan
79- Victor Theil
80- Fernando Iglesias
81- Vicente Formisano
82- Alfredo Altamirano
83- Sergio Solmi
84- Juan Manuel Landa - Oscar Aventín - Tony Aventín
85- "Colo" Espinoza - Oscar Angeletti - Enrique Genero
86- Daniel Mustafá - Daniel Estambul - Luis Hernández Sr.
87- Gustavo Taddei
88- Mariano Altuna - Mariano Oyhanarte - Hector Prono - Javier Balzano.
89- Gustavo Mandrini
90- Rafael Moro
91- Fabián Flaqué
92- Lionel Larrauri
93- Juan Carlos De Monte - Carlos Loeffel
94- Marcos Ciani
95- Angel Peduzzi
96- Atilio Viale del Carril
97- Juan Carlos Salatino
98- Aldo Caldarella
99- Rubèn Roux - Eduardo Casá - Domingo Di Santo
100- Gastón Mazzacane

Any comments..??

[ensign14]

It's confusing numbering, because if the Pampas Bull and Galvez are joint 3rd, di Palma should be 5th.

And Mazzacane made the list. Wow.

[KWSN - DSM]

Most of the drivers I don't really know.

There are more than 100 drivers on the top 100 drivers list.

Gaston Mazzacane is a better driver than his F1 record show, and regardless of me not knowing most of the drivers, clearly a better driver than a lot of them. So should be placed much higher on the list.

[Repco von Brabham]

I tell you in Spanish: (I don't Know accuracy explain in English)

Sucede que hay EMPATE en varias de las posiciones, los logros obtenidos son equivalentes.

Now, please somebody make the translation to the English.. please!

Luis Rubén Di Palma was one of the best drivers of the WORLD !!.. Believe me.

[Richard Jenkins]

Originally posted by Repco von Brabham
This is the "Repco's List" of the top 100 best Argentinian Drivers from 1918 until March 2005.
(In bold, the World Champions)

1- Juan Manuel Fangio.
2- Carlos Alberto Reutemann
3- José Froilán Gonzales - Oscar Gálvez.
4- Luis Rubén Di Palma
6- Oscar Larrauri - Sebastián Porto.
8- Miguel Angel Guerra - Onofre Marimóm
13- Roberto Mières.
14- Norberto Fontana
15- Nasif Stéfano - Ernesto Blanco - Raúl "Polenta" Riganti.
19- Carlos Pairetti - Roberto Bonomi
31- Ricardo Zunino - Carlos Garro - Pancho Alcuaz.
48- Carlos Menditeguy

Any comments..??

The one missing I would've included would be Nicolas Filiberti, who showed enough talent to at least get in the top 100. Maybe a few more around the 1970's, but hey...
Couldn't see Martin de Alsaga either.....

No complaints with top 4, but I would personally rank Marimon better than Guerra, Mieres way in front of Fontana, Riganti in the top 10 surely!!!, Pairetti as good as Bonomi - Pairetti should be higher, me thinks & I also think that both Zunino & Menditeguy should be ranked higher.

and yes, I'm taking into account success at home, just as much as success internationally.

Just my tuppence. :

[Repco von Brabham]

Richie, you have rigth about Nicolas Filiberti.., sorry, I forgot hem., soon I will fix the "list".

Nicolas Filiberti and Cristhian Ledesma., two good drivers.

[fines]

Martin de Alzaga seems to be missing, too.

[Repco von Brabham]

Originally posted by fines
Martin de Alzaga seems to be missing, too.

OK, you are rigth.., Now "Macoco" de Álzaga is in the list.

[D-Type]

As Ensign 14 says, your numbering is confusing. If you intend Gonzalez and Galvez to be equal 3rd then di Palma is 5th as there are 4 people ahead of him. And the same applies all the waydown the list. You cannot have a list of the top 100 with 199 names!

As for the content of the list, I won't comment as apart from Fangio, Oscar Galvez, Menditeguy, Marimon and Reutemann I have maybe heard of another 5 and know nothing of the others.

[Repco von Brabham]

Originally posted by D-Type
As Ensign 14 says, your numbering is confusing. If you intend Gonzalez and Galvez to be equal 3rd then di Palma is 5th as there are 4 people ahead of him. And the same applies all the waydown the list. You cannot have a list of the top 100 with 199 names!

As for the content of the list, I won't comment as apart from Fangio, Oscar Galvez, Menditeguy, Marimon and Reutemann I have maybe heard of another 5 and know nothing of the others.

Like I say Before, look:

Originally posted by Repco von Brabham
I tell you in Spanish: (I don't Know accuracy explain in English)

Sucede que hay EMPATE en varias de las posiciones, los logros obtenidos son equivalentes.

Now, please somebody make the translation to the English.. please!

Luis Rubén Di Palma was one of the best drivers of the WORLD !!.. Believe me.

You wrote:

As for the content of the list, I won't comment as apart from Fangio, Oscar Galvez, Menditeguy, Marimon and Reutemann I have maybe heard of another 5 and know nothing of the others.

BAD LUCK for you, mister.. If you not recognise Enrique Mansilla, Oscar Larrauri, Sebastian Porto, Enrique Benamo., Nestor Garcia Veiga, Ricardo Zunino...... I have nothing to say..

[D-Type]

There is no need to be rude.

[Allen Brown]

Repco

A very interesting list. Your knowledge of Argentinian drivers is impressive.

I understand what you are saying about a tie ('empate') but what ensign14 and D-type are saying is correct. Look at it from Monguzzi's position. He has five people ahead of him on the list so he should be 6th, not 5th. That two of them are level with each other isn't relevent to his situation.

Allen

[Keir]

Good Lord, Repco!!!

.....and I thought I was the only one with time on his hands!!

[Richard Jenkins]

Originally posted by Repco von Brabham

Sucede que hay EMPATE en varias de las posiciones, los logros obtenidos son equivalentes.

Translation:
It happens that there is a tie in several positions, as I ranked them equal (or to that effect)




I see your point but I what D-Type & Ensign are saying are correct. If I may;


1- Juan Manuel Fangio.
2- Carlos Alberto Reutemann
3- José Froilán Gonzales - Oscar Gálvez.
4- Luis Rubén Di Palma
5- Ángel Rubén "Negro" Monguzzi.
6- Oscar Larrauri - Sebastián Porto - José "Pechito" López.
7- Jorge Cupeiro - Juan Gálvez.
8- Miguel Angel Guerra - Onofre Marimóm - Gabriel Pozzo
9- Jorge Raúl Recalde.
10- Nestor García Veiga - Victor Rubén Rosso - Juan Manuel Fangio II
11- Carlos Ruesch - Quique Mansilla
12- Eduardo José Copello - Jorge Omar Del Río- Benedicto Caldarella.
13- Roberto Mières.
14- Norberto Fontana - Guillermo Ortelli.
15- Nasif Stéfano - Ernesto Blanco - Raúl "Polenta" Riganti.
16- Hector Luis Gradassi - Gurí Martínez.
17- Guillermo Maldonado - Miguel De Guidi - Guillermo Kissling.
18- Juan M. Traverso - Juan Manuel Bordeu.
19- Carlos Pairetti - Roberto Bonomi - Ramón Requejo.
20- Enrique Benamo II - Juan Carlos Giachino - Adalberto Scarazzini.

should be:

1- Juan Manuel Fangio.
2- Carlos Alberto Reutemann
3- José Froilán Gonzales - Oscar Gálvez.
5- Luis Rubén Di Palma
6- Ángel Rubén "Negro" Monguzzi.
7- Oscar Larrauri - Sebastián Porto - José "Pechito" López.
10- Jorge Cupeiro - Juan Gálvez.
12- Miguel Angel Guerra - Onofre Marimóm - Gabriel Pozzo
15- Jorge Raúl Recalde.
16- Nestor García Veiga - Victor Rubén Rosso - Juan Manuel Fangio II
19- Carlos Ruesch - Quique Mansilla
21- Eduardo José Copello - Jorge Omar Del Río- Benedicto Caldarella.
24- Roberto Mières.
25- Norberto Fontana - Guillermo Ortelli.
27- Nasif Stéfano - Ernesto Blanco - Raúl "Polenta" Riganti.
30- Hector Luis Gradassi - Gurí Martínez.
31- Guillermo Maldonado - Miguel De Guidi - Guillermo Kissling.
34- Juan M. Traverso - Juan Manuel Bordeu.
36- Carlos Pairetti - Roberto Bonomi - Ramón Requejo.
39- Enrique Benamo II - Juan Carlos Giachino - Adalberto Scarazzini.
42 and so on...

you have 201 drivers in the top 100, for example, I think that's the crux of their argument.

I can explain in Spanish if it would help.

[Mihai]

Shouldn't the late rally driver Carlos Menem jr find his way on the top 201 Argentine's best driver's list ?

[Arturo Pereira]

Originally posted by Mihai
Shouldn't the late rally driver Carlos Menem jr find his way on the top 201 Argentine's best driver's list ?

Yes, 36- Carlos Facundo Menem Yoma, in RvB's personal rankings.

Glad to see he did not include himself in the top 10 just in the top 20.

[fines]

I think Roberto Mieres (without accent, isn't it?) should rank more prominently - he should be about Marimón's level, certainly ahead of the likes of Caldarella, Ruesch, Mansilla, Rosso, García Veiga or Guerra. Frankly, I don't understand why any of those is ahead of Kissling or Maldonado!

[fines]

Oh yes, and Menditeguy! Did lead a full Formula One Grand Prix by merit, once!

[Mihai]

Thanx for the correction, Arturo

Interesting to see Adrian Hang (young driver who returned to racing after having both legs amputated as a result of a lower formulae horrifying crash in Italy) ranked higher than Esteban Tuero. What are both doing ? Did Esteban become an important wine producer ?

[ensign14]

And I would put Zunino ahead of Croceri, unless I am missing something. Zunino was hardly the dog's, but he did do OK in F2, whereas Croceri was a permanent DNQ in F3000.

And Campos in 25th - was he the chap who came to Europe with JMF? Should he be a lot higher - IIRC he was not disgraced by the comparison?

[Muzza]

Originally posted by Mihai
Thanx for the correction, Arturo

Interesting to see Adrian Hang (young driver who returned to racing after having both legs amputated as a result of a lower formulae horrifying crash in Italy) ranked higher than Esteban Tuero. What are both doing ? Did Esteban become an important wine producer ?

Glad to see someone remembering Adrian Hang.

Nanni (Dietrich), please correct me if I am wrong: in recent years Adrian was working as a race driving coach and happily living in Italy.


Muzza

P.S.: Enrique's proposal is for each of us to prepare our own rankings of the best 100 Argentinean drivers of all time and then compare the lists. It is easy to criticize his choices - coming up with your own ranking is another exercise...

[Richard Jenkins]

Indeed, Muzza - well spotted - okay, I'll have a go:
This isn't a top 100 but this would be my top 30:

1 Juan Manuel Fangio
2 Carlos Reutemann
3 Oscar Galvez
4 Jose Froilan Gonzalez
5 Raul Riganti
6 Luis de Palma
7 Jose Galvez
8 Onofre Marimon
9 Oscar Larrauri
10 Carlos Menditeguy
11 Martin de Alsaga
12 Juan Fangio II
13 Juan Gaudino
14 Roberto Mieres
15 Carlos Ruesch
16 Enrique Mansilla
17 Juan M. Traverso
18 Ricardo Zunino
19 Carlos Pairetti
20 Clemar Bucci
21 Juan Manuel Bordeu
22 Pablo Birger
23 Benedicto Caldarella
24 Adolfo Schwelm Cruz
25 Gabriel Furlan
26 Norberto Fontana
27 Juan Cruz Alaverez (for what he might achieve)
28 Alberto Rodriguez Larretta
29 Esteban Tuero
30 Emiliano Spataro


I have to go laregly by who I've heard of & many have bben ranked on the international stage but with Traverso & The Galvez duo & Larruari, I've ranked them on their home exploits as well.

[Arturo Pereira]

Originally posted by Richie Jenkins
Indeed, Muzza - well spotted - okay, I'll have a go:
This isn't a top 100 but this would be my top 30:

1 Juan Manuel Fangio
2 Carlos Reutemann
3 Oscar Galvez
4 Jose Froilan Gonzalez
5 Raul Riganti
6 Luis de Palma
7 Jose Galvez
8 Onofre Marimon
9 Oscar Larrauri
10 Carlos Menditeguy
11 Martin de Alsaga
12 Juan Fangio II
13 Juan Gaudino
14 Roberto Mieres
15 Carlos Ruesch
16 Enrique Mansilla
17 Juan M. Traverso
18 Ricardo Zunino
19 Carlos Pairetti
20 Clemar Bucci
21 Juan Manuel Bordeu
22 Pablo Birger
23 Benedicto Caldarella
24 Adolfo Schwelm Cruz
25 Gabriel Furlan
26 Norberto Fontana
27 Juan Cruz Alaverez (for what he might achieve)
28 Alberto Rodriguez Larretta
29 Esteban Tuero
30 Emiliano Spataro


I have to go laregly by who I've heard of & many have bben ranked on the international stage but with Traverso & The Galvez duo & Larruari, I've ranked them on their home exploits as well.

I could be wrong with my suggested corrections to your list, but:
a. I would replae Martin de Alsaga with Rodolfo de Alzaga
b. I don;t see in that list the multiple TC champion Dante Emiliozzi
c. I do not know who is/was Jose Galvez, but Juan Galvez (Oscar's brother) was/is considered the best TC driver here by many experts.
Other than this, imho, any top 10s/whatever list is just a matter of personal preferences/expertise about, in this specific case, argentine motorspots. IMHO, Eduardo Copello was one of the greatest TC drivers, as Nasif Estefano was, and Juan Maria Traverso (he drove almost everything on wheels here and won everything here) should be in any top 10 list, but as I said, this is just a matter of personal preferences and knowlegde about argentine motorsports.

[Muzza]

I'm preparing my list. Man, this is going to be tough - and please understand that I do not consider my personal ranking to be my "personal definitive". Quite likely my answer will be different if I were to be asked a month from today.

In the meantime I am trying to drag some people that know much more than me on the subject - such as Pablo Vignone, Gabriel Alejandro Engels and Nanni - to this thread.

Cheers,


Muzza

[Arturo Pereira]

Originally posted by Muzza
I'm preparing my list. Man, this is going to be tough - and please understand that I do not consider my personal ranking to be my "personal definitive". Quite likely my answer will be different if I were to be asked a month from today.

In the meantime I am trying to drag some people that know much more than me on the subject - such as Pablo Vignone, Gabriel Alejandro Engels and Nanni - to this thread.

Cheers,


Muzza

Np at all Bring your personal list on !! More food for thought ;)

About many TC drivers already included in these kind of list, take on account that the TC fans made their choices also based on which car a certain driver raced. I.e.: Fangio raced with Chevrolet and Oscar/Juan Galvez raced with Fords. This meant that many people supported any of them not only because they thought Fangio was better than Juan Galvez or Oscar Galvez, but just because Fangio drove a Chevrolet. This same situation happens today, but today there are other choices (add Dodge and Torinos to old Ford and Chevrolet fans).

[Anders Torp]

Originally posted by Repco von Brabham

I have nothing to say..

Then don't, OK?

[Richard Jenkins]

Arturo, I had a brain fade. I meant Juan Galvez. Like I said, I can only really rank those whose careers I'm familiar with - Emiliozzi I'm not -at present, i regret to say.

[Arturo Pereira]

Originally posted by Richie Jenkins
Arturo, I had a brain fade. I meant Juan Galvez. Like I said, I can only really rank those whose careers I'm familiar with - Emiliozzi I'm not -at present, i regret to say.

Np Richie

It is just that posting a list that mixes TC only drivers with Motorcycle drivers with Formula X cars drivers with Rally drivers is useless since it puts in the same list apples with oranges with bananas with cheesecakes ;)

[Arturo Pereira]

Originally posted by Muzza

In the meantime I am trying to drag some people that know much more than me on the subject - such as Pablo Vignone, Gabriel Alejandro Engels and Nanni - to this thread.

Cheers,


Muzza

Muzza,
I very much doubt Pablo Vignone would be interested in any of RvBs posts, but let's wait to hear what Pablo has to say about this subject. RvB's credibility as a poster about historical facts of motorsports is not in my Top 10,000 rank but I will keep my reasons in the house because they are quite OT.

[ReWind]

Originally posted by Repco von Brabham
Sebastián Porto - José "Pechito" López

re Porto: Is a rider a driver?
re López: Is that José María López? If so: What does his nickname (unknown to me until now) mean?

[Pablo Vignone]

Arturo Pereira wrote

I very much doubt Pablo Vignone would be interested in any of RvBs posts, but let's wait to hear what Pablo has to say about this subject

That's exactly the truth!

But in deference to my very dear friend Sal, let me point out this: what about Carlos Arzani, the very first argentinian Ferrari driver?
Regarding the second one, José Froilan González, I was with him last week. We spent several minutes talking about his heart and just a while discussing F-1: "Don't discount Schumi" he said.

To ReWind:

Pecho = chest
Pechito = little chest

The father of Pechito was a driver too, and he used to push people during discussions in the pits with his chest. So, he was nicknamed "Pecho". As José María (a nice bloke I tell you) was Pecho's son, he was naturally christened "Pechito"

[Mallory Dan]

As a complete outsider, I agree with some comments made above re Zunino. He went OK in F2 when that was very strong in Europe, looked quite good against more experienced drivers in Aurora, then in his Brabham outings at the end of 79 he also lokked quite promising.

It all seemed to go wrong there the next year, when MRD put all their effort behind Piquet, I guess Zunino was 'frozen out' somewhat.

[Mihai]

The October 1999 issue of the official magzine of the Automovil Club Argentino had a comprehensive material about all 21 Argentinian F1 drivers. This topic made me remember it and this morning I found that mag in my dust-covered archives. I'm familiar with 50-55 names on RvB's list.

[Stephen W]

Then there is always Martin Middleton - the only Argentinian born driver to score British Hillclimb Championship points!



So that would make 202 drivers in the Top 100

[Nanni Dietrich]

Originally posted by Muzza



Glad to see someone remembering Adrian Hang.

Nanni (Dietrich), please correct me if I am wrong: in recent years Adrian was working as a race driving coach and happily living in Italy.


Muzza

You are correct, Muzza: Adrian Hang drove in 2004 a Ford Focus for italian "HT Racing Team" in the Italian Touring-cars Championship (CIVT - Campionato Italiano Velocità Turismo) and I seem to remember he won his class (N3).

[conjohn]

Isn't Brian Smith (British F3 some years back) an Argentinian, notwithstanding his name? And fairly successful too, if I recall correctly.

And as for Enrique having 200+ drivers on his Top 100 --- his list - his rules....

[Muzza]

Originally posted by conjohn
Isn't Brian Smith (British F3 some years back) an Argentinian, notwithstanding his name? And fairly successful too, if I recall correctly.

And as for Enrique having 200+ drivers on his Top 100 --- his list - his rules....

Yes, Conny,


That Brian Smith is Argentinean.

Cheers,


Muzza

[fines]

I was just going to ask about Brian Smith... very quick guy, could put a Tom's on pole!

[Mihai]

Folks, if RvB ranked Gaston Mazzacane stone last, I see now way he could award Brian Smith a higher position. Brian Smith did several F3000 races in the ultra-competitive 1998 and 1999 seasons. In 1998 he drove for Nordic Racing (the #17 car also driven that season by Kevin McGarrity and Hidetoshi Mitsusada). He certainly wasn't top but he wasn't flop either. In that time, Mazzacane (damn, I hate what his name means in Spanish ) managed to score points a couple of times.

[Nanni Dietrich]

Originally posted by Mihai
Folks, if RvB ranked Gaston Mazzacane stone last, I see now way he could award Brian Smith a higher position. Brian Smith did several F3000 races in the ultra-competitive 1998 and 1999 seasons. In 1998 he drove for Nordic Racing (the #17 car also driven that season by Kevin McGarrity and Hidetoshi Mitsusada). He certainly wasn't top but he wasn't flop either. In that time, Mazzacane (damn, I hate what his name means in Spanish ) managed to score points a couple of times.

Gaston Mazzacane leaded half lap at Indianapolis (1998? 1999?) at the wheel of the Minardi F. 1 !

Leading a GP, I think just very very few drivers in the history.

[Mihai]

The only Minardi driver who led a F1 race was Pierluigi Martini in Portugal 1989. Mazzacane did in fact managed something outrageously competitive for a Minardi driver. He fought with Mika Hakkinen for 4th in the 1999 USA Grand Prix in Indianapolis making the Flying Finn a very angry driver indeed (he was asking for blue flags, but he was actually racing Mazzacane).

[Nanni Dietrich]

Originally posted by Mihai
The only Minardi driver who led a F1 race was Pierluigi Martini in Portugal 1989. Mazzacane did in fact managed something outrageously competitive for a Minardi driver. He fought with Mika Hakkinen for 4th in the 1999 USA Grand Prix in Indianapolis making the Flying Finn a very angry driver indeed (he was asking for blue flags, but he was actually racing Mazzacane).

Are you sure, Mihai? Only for 4th place?
I seem to remember Mazzacane and Hakkinen fought half a lap for 1st... sorry.

So... also 4th place in a F. 1 GP is NOT a common experience...;)

[Tim Murray]

Originally posted by Mihai
. . . the 1999 USA Grand Prix in Indianapolis . . .

I didn't think they ran a GP at Indy until 2000.

[Muzza]

Originally posted by Mihai
Folks, if RvB ranked Gaston Mazzacane stone last, (...)

In that time, Mazzacane (damn, I hate what his name means in Spanish ) managed to score points a couple of times.

Cheers, Mihai,


You meant Italian, not Spanish - Mazzacane means "Hits Dog" (hits a dog) in Italian.

(And you, Nanni... don't you dare to disclose the meaning of my surname in public! )

Originally posted by Tim Murray

I didn't think they ran a GP at Indy until 2000.

Yes, that was the 2000 United States Grand Prix. I met some Argentineans at the track and they were having a blast, singing and flying their country's flag with the name of the driver written over its white band.

Regards,


Muzza

[Pablo Vignone]

A while ago, Mazzacane told me that, when he was battling with Hakkinen, the team called him to make the scheduled pit-stop, and he refused to do that for at least two laps, to enjoy being in front of the world champ!
That morning, he had been late to the warm-up session...

[Repco von Brabham]

How many mess..! and all because a simply list..