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#2801 StraightEdge

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Posted 30 September 2018 - 02:22

After two years of restoration its alive

 



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#2802 Henri Greuter

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Posted 30 September 2018 - 09:12

After two years of restoration its alive

 

 

 

FANTASTIC TO SEE!!!!!!  Thanks for posting

 

Anyone has any idea which chassis number this car was?

I know there were 6 of these but as of date I know of only one where it resides....



#2803 B Squared

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Posted 16 November 2018 - 10:08

Nice to see Bobby Marshman's name in these two articles from Speed Sport:

https://speedsport.c...s-brief-career/

Bob inducted into the Midget Racing Hall of Fame. One of his trophies I proudly take care of is his Trenton 300 award from 1960 which he felt was of great significance in getting his first opportunity at the Speedway:

https://speedsport.c...all-fame-class/

#2804 B Squared

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Posted 25 November 2018 - 11:48

Another one of the old gang that I worked with in CART has unexpectedly passed away. Joe "JD" Wilbur from Lisle, Illinois; he began working the series as an observer/corner worker, and by the time the sanctioning body ended, he was the race starter. Friend and CART colleague, Paul Panhorst, filled me in last night. My best to all of Joe's family and friends, rest easy mate. Only 64 years of age; too darn young.

https://www.dignitym...-wilbur-8065431

Edited by B Squared, 25 November 2018 - 15:11.


#2805 E1pix

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Posted 25 November 2018 - 14:35

Sorry to hear that, Brian.

#2806 B Squared

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Posted 25 November 2018 - 15:13

Thanks Eric. On my front; I just got my six month scans back last week for my cancer. The oncologist says I'm now a six-month "survivor" and clean - enjoy each day mates, for they are short and precious.

#2807 E1pix

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Posted 25 November 2018 - 15:48

We are Bud, we have Maduros. :-)

Edit: Big Congrats!

Edited by E1pix, 25 November 2018 - 17:42.


#2808 JacnGille

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Posted 25 November 2018 - 23:42

Another one of the old gang that I worked with in CART has unexpectedly passed away. Joe "JD" Wilbur from Lisle, Illinois; he began working the series as an observer/corner worker, and by the time the sanctioning body ended, he was the race starter. Friend and CART colleague, Paul Panhorst, filled me in last night. My best to all of Joe's family and friends, rest easy mate. Only 64 years of age; too darn young.

https://www.dignitym...-wilbur-8065431

Sad news



#2809 JacnGille

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Posted 25 November 2018 - 23:42

Thanks Eric. On my front; I just got my six month scans back last week for my cancer. The oncologist says I'm now a six-month "survivor" and clean - enjoy each day mates, for they are short and precious.

And wonderful news



#2810 B Squared

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 10:14

Fifty-four years ago today, the racing world lost an exceptional driver, Bobby Marshman. He was even a better person, and my thoughts are with his surviving family and friends today.
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#2811 lotuspoweredbyford

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Posted 27 December 2018 - 14:17

Just a quick and sad note to mention that 1972 Indianapolis 500 Rookie of the Year Mike Hiss passed away shortly before Christmas.

#2812 JacnGille

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Posted 27 December 2018 - 16:38

Just a quick and sad note to mention that 1972 Indianapolis 500 Rookie of the Year Mike Hiss passed away shortly before Christmas.

Sad news



#2813 Bob Riebe

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Posted 27 December 2018 - 17:33

Just a quick and sad note to mention that 1972 Indianapolis 500 Rookie of the Year Mike Hiss passed away shortly before Christmas.

I had not heard or read that name in years.

Sad but he is at the big show in the sky now.



#2814 Richard Jenkins

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Posted 27 December 2018 - 17:45

Just a quick and sad note to mention that 1972 Indianapolis 500 Rookie of the Year Mike Hiss passed away shortly before Christmas.



Sad news indeed. A good man.

#2815 E1pix

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Posted 27 December 2018 - 18:04

RIP, Mike.

#2816 B Squared

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Posted 28 December 2018 - 11:26

My Dad has a signed photo from every Penske driver that ever ran the Speedway bar one - Mike Hiss. I made a few attempts, but it wasn't meant to be. RIP Mike, and comfort to family and friends.

From David Malsher at Motorsport:

https://www.motorspo...4317357/?nrt=86

Robin Miller and Racer:

https://racer.com/20...hiss-1941-2018/

Donald Davidson's always thoughtful comments:

https://www.indianap...s-obituary-2018

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edit: BTW, SCORE noted on the rear wing end plates was Sunoco's short-lived product that soon became CAM2 after Mickey Thompson's SCORE off-road group threatened legal action. From Team Penske Sunoco engineer Jerry Kroninger

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#2817 B Squared

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Posted 04 February 2019 - 10:10

Jim McGee is reported to be in bad condition due to complications after surgery for broken leg. I've only seen Michael Knight's twitter feed with info:

https://twitter.com/...202662223765504

#2818 JacnGille

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Posted 04 February 2019 - 13:26

Jim McGee is reported to be in bad condition due to complications after surgery for broken leg. I've only seen Michael Knight's twitter feed with info:

https://twitter.com/...202662223765504

Sad news



#2819 Vitesse2

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Posted 23 March 2019 - 09:52

All five Cummins diesel racers will be doing a demonstration run at this weekend's Circuit of the Americas IndyCar race. Probably too much to hope that it will be part of the TV coverage, but no doubt will turn up on YouTube. Some background from Hemmings:

 

https://www.hemmings...#comments-block

 

(Thanks to loki for pointing this out in RC).



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#2820 Nigel Beresford

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Posted 23 March 2019 - 11:29

Jim McGee is reported to be in bad condition due to complications after surgery for broken leg. I've only seen Michael Knight's twitter feed with info:

https://twitter.com/...202662223765504

 

Hi Brian,

 

Tim Bumps, my old crew chief from Penske in 1993, unbelievably crossed paths with McGee last Tuesday (19 March) at a dog groomers(!) in Palm Desert, CA. From the picture Tim posted on Facebook it appears that McGee is in pretty good shape for a guy his age.

 

Thanks, Nigel



#2821 B Squared

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Posted 24 March 2019 - 03:45

That is great news! Thanks Nigel, and best regards.

#2822 raceannouncer2003

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Posted 24 March 2019 - 05:17

All five Cummins diesel racers will be doing a demonstration run at this weekend's Circuit of the Americas IndyCar race. Probably too much to hope that it will be part of the TV coverage, but no doubt will turn up on YouTube. Some background from Hemmings:

 

https://www.hemmings...#comments-block

 

(Thanks to loki for pointing this out in RC).

 

I looked at the article.  My interpretation was that the Cummins racers would be demonstrated at Indianapolis, not COTA.   Am I right ?  If they are at COTA, I wouldn't get to see it anyways.  My TV provider doesn't carry the necessary channel, and none of the Canadian sports networks are carrying it.

 

By the way, I knew the Indycars would be slower than the Formula 1 cars at COTA, but I was surprised that their best qualifying lap was about 14 seconds slower than the F1 cars.  Are they using the same track format ?

 

Vince H.


Edited by raceannouncer2003, 24 March 2019 - 05:22.


#2823 BRG

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Posted 24 March 2019 - 17:25


By the way, I knew the Indycars would be slower than the Formula 1 cars at COTA, but I was surprised that their best qualifying lap was about 14 seconds slower than the F1 cars.  Are they using the same track format ?

Yes, even down to ignoring track limits in the same way, apparently.  I don't think there is a longer/slower format at COTA anyway.



#2824 SKL

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Posted 29 March 2019 - 03:35

It was a pretty good race and to me watching on TV they didn't look that much slower.   Track limits?  Who needs track limits!!!   We watched the F1 race from Turn 19 hospitality  a few years ago.  The lack of limits would have made it MUCH more interesting!!



#2825 B Squared

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Posted 04 April 2019 - 21:09

From Rob Miller's latest Q&A in regards to John Andretti. Some positive thoughts heading his way.

"Talked to John last week and his cancer has returned, but he’s still fighting and looking for an alternative program with help from Mario."

#2826 Tim Murray

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Posted 04 April 2019 - 21:13

What a bloody shame. Here’s wishing him the very best for a full recovery.

#2827 E1pix

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Posted 05 April 2019 - 03:42

That's been a long and sad era for John.

I lettered a Super Vee for him once (Long Beach) when he was 20, and got to spend several hours just he and I. You'd never guess his family past, all he was was a genuinely-nice and excited kid.

Beat it, John.

#2828 Henri Greuter

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Posted 05 April 2019 - 06:19

From Rob Miller's latest Q&A in regards to John Andretti. Some positive thoughts heading his way.

"Talked to John last week and his cancer has returned, but he’s still fighting and looking for an alternative program with help from Mario."



Here's hope for all the best for a nice man

#2829 B Squared

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Posted 05 April 2019 - 08:33

I was diagnosed and treated for stage four colon cancer about the very time John was battling the same. I somehow got lucky and it didn't spread to any other organs. From what I understand, John also had liver cancer as an additional battle. I go for my six-month scans in a few weeks - if clean, it will one year without cancer for me - I hope John can soon be looking at a similar situation.

#2830 B Squared

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Posted 05 April 2019 - 09:01

Michael Argetsinger's final book on Bobby Marshman went to the printer this week (from Racemaker Press)- I'll keep you up to date on availability.

#2831 E1pix

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Posted 05 April 2019 - 14:51

You got this, Brother.

#2832 B Squared

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Posted 21 April 2019 - 14:32

Now seen at the Racemaker website. Michael Argetsinger's "An American Racer: Bobby Marshman and the Indianapolis 500"

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https://www.racemaker.com/

Edited by B Squared, 21 April 2019 - 14:46.


#2833 E1pix

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Posted 22 April 2019 - 02:40

What a fabulous tribute to both writer and driver, both taken from us against great will.

A lot of people are happy to see this book off press. Thanks to everyone who made that happen, including some of our own.

Ten thumbs up.

#2834 B Squared

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Posted 01 May 2019 - 09:28

Again the old CART communuty mourns the loss of another fine gentleman, 95-year old Neal Carter, who was a retired driver and a key member of the CART Horton Safety Team from 1979-1989 operating Safety 2. From Neal's obit - you'll be missed my friend.

Neal, known as the Mighty Midget Racecar Driver, began his racing career at Ft. Miami Speedway in Toledo, Ohio and Partington Pasture located outside of Mt. Clements, MI.

Over his racing career, Neal drove at most of the nation's major tracks, garnering over 220-checkered flags. Most notable was his victory in 1948 at the famed Langhorne Speedway, establishing the fastest 100-mile auto race on a dirt track – a record that stood for an unequaled 13 years. He was also the AAA Detroit Motor Speedway Champion in 1949, 50, and 51.

Adding to his prowess in the powerful midgets, he began driving Indy Champ Cars, competing in 24 Indy Car Races between 1949 and 1952, including the first race held at Darlington Speedway. Neal passed his drivers test at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway in 1951 and made additional qualifying attempts in 1952 and 1953.

Upon his retirement from racing, he was Service Manager at Jim White Chevrolet in Toledo, OH, Carl Schmidt Chevrolet in Perrysburg, OH, and CEO of Schmidt National Lease in Maumee, OH.

Neal also remained actively involved in racing. In the mid-1960's, he was instrumental in the construction of the Quarter Midget racetrack at the Lucas County Rec Center in Maumee, OH. Neal was a member of the CART Horton Safety Team from 1979- 89, and a 42-year member of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway Oldtimers Club.

He was inducted into the Michigan Motor Sports Hall of Fame in 1997 and the National Midget Racing Hall of Fame in 1999.

https://www.legacy.c...7095&fhid=17954

#2835 E1pix

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Posted 01 May 2019 - 16:38

RIP Neal, and Thanks, Brian.

#2836 JacnGille

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Posted 01 May 2019 - 18:11

Sad news



#2837 Richard Jenkins

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Posted 01 May 2019 - 18:52

RIP Neal, and Thanks, Brian.


Ditto. A long life well lived. Godspeed Neal

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Posted 28 June 2019 - 19:26

Trying to piece it together:

Kurtis/Offenhauser 500C
1954 #2 Hinkle, Jack McGrath (FT & 3rd Indy)
1955 #3 Hinkle, Jack McGrath (FT Indy)
1956 #57 Helse, Bob Christie
1957 #57 Helse, Jimmy Daywalt

Kuzma/Offenhauser 'IC-58'
1958 #57 Helse, Jimmy Daywalt => Freddie Agabashian => Art Bisch
1959 #57 Helse, Jerry (II) Unser

Chenowth/Chevrolet 'IC-60'
1960 #54 San Diego Steel Products, no driver
1961 #82 San Diego Steel Products, Mike Magill
1962 ?
1963 #18 Auto Power Corporation, Bud Tingelstad => Mike McGreevy => Colby Scroggin
1964 #58 Weld, Jerry Weld
1965 #85 Smith Speed Shop, Sam Sessions, Bob Hurt, Bob Pratt, Ralph Liguori
1966 ?
1967 #18 War Wagon, Gary Congdon
1968 #118 Steck, Al Smith
1969 #18 Steck, Al Smith, Charlie Masters (RD)
1970 ?
1971 ?
1972 ?
1973 ?
1974 #47 Roberts, ?
1975 #47 Bruce Cogle Ford, ?
1976 #47 Bruce Cogle Ford, Jeff Bloom (1st Salem, 2nd Winchester)
1977 #47 ?, Jeff Bloom (1st Anderson*)
1978 #47 Bruce Cogle Ford, Jeff Bloom (1st Toledo)
1979 #47 Stenger's Ford, ?
1980 #47 Stenger's Ford, ?
1981 #57 Roberts Steel Erection, Bill Tyler, Jeff Bloom
1982 #57 Roberts Steel Erection, Tom Bigelow (6th Eldora), Larry Dickson, Jeff Bloom
1983 ?

* ASA sanction, everything else USAC

 

The Chenowth Chassis or as you called it C1 , was built in 1960,, The car Unser crashed was scraped in 1959 after Bruce Crower brought it to San Diego , My uncle bought it from Bruce & built a brand new chassis & body , Some running gear was salvaged for the Unser car but not much ,,,crc1022@cox.net  ,,, CR Chenowth



#2839 Michael Ferner

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Posted 29 June 2019 - 08:22

Hello and welcome, Charles! Many thanks for your input.

It was me who posted this many, many years ago. Please note, that even back then I wasn't trying to suggest that your uncle didn't actually build the beautiful Chenowth roadster - that fact is beyond doubt. I used the linkup with the earlier Kurtis/Kuzma Indy roadster to (perhaps clumsily) illustrate an "entity timeline", since the earlier car stopped to exist at the moment the new car was built. This can be very helpful when researching the careers of many old racing cars in parallel. I, at the time and even now, didn't know exactly how much of the old car was used in the new one, and am happy to take your word for it - I knew it wasn't much, anyway.

Please, if you have more info, post away! We're always grateful for new info on old cars!!

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Posted 10 July 2019 - 13:11

I saw on another site that PJ Jones had posted on Facebook that his dad IndyCar legend Parnelli, is having some health challenges right now. All the best thoughts for his health.

Edited by B Squared, 10 July 2019 - 13:12.


#2841 E1pix

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Posted 10 July 2019 - 15:34

We're at that age now Brian that all our childhood heroes are pushing "that time."

I for one am not looking forward to the constant stream of losses -- they've all been hard enough before.

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Posted 11 July 2019 - 05:18

Here is a link to the PJ Jones Facebook site:

 

https://www.facebook.../PJJonesRacing/

 

Vince H.



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Posted 09 October 2019 - 03:02

Doug Shierson Lola T86 gets a spin