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#51 Mark Ballard

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Posted 01 April 2023 - 18:25

The Hawke History of MMM Competions cars say that K3006 was no 35 at the meeting on 28/8/48 and was double driven in 4 classes by RH Graham & DH Kyle. Also it looks like a 6 cylinder mg MG single seater.

I think this is Dick Lovell-Butt in the same car some time later

https://www.youwho.ie/butt.html


Edited by Mark Ballard, 01 April 2023 - 18:31.


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#52 tsrwright

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Posted 02 April 2023 - 03:30

Thank you for that confirmation Mark; indeed there is a pic of number 35 that I can use.

 

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#53 dgs

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Posted 02 April 2023 - 08:20

Thank you for that confirmation Mark; indeed there is a pic of number 35 that I can use.

 

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No 35 H.Graham came third in both the 1100cc class and Unlimited class at 128-08-1948 Craigantlet meeting.

Unlimited Class BTD , (1st in class), No 43 Raymond Mays ERA R4D, 75.8"  No 35 RH Graham (3rd in class) 85.8"

1100cc Class. (1st in class),  No 41 Dudley Folland (MG K3) 81.4",   (3rd in class) , No 35 RH Graham  85.8"

Believe joint driven MG K3 car was No 35 RH Graham and No 35A DH Kyle (have no times for his runs)  



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Posted 02 April 2023 - 16:32

No 35 H.Graham came third in both the 1100cc class and Unlimited class at 128-08-1948 Craigantlet meeting.

Unlimited Class BTD , (1st in class), No 43 Raymond Mays ERA R4D, 75.8"  No 35 RH Graham (3rd in class) 85.8"

1100cc Class. (1st in class),  No 41 Dudley Folland (MG K3) 81.4",   (3rd in class) , No 35 RH Graham  85.8"

Believe joint driven MG K3 car was No 35 RH Graham and No 35A DH Kyle (have no times for his runs)  

In case it is of any help, it was Hector Graham and Duncan Kyle, both bastions of the Northern Irish racing scene in the late 1940s.



#55 Doug Nye

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Posted 03 April 2023 - 07:34

From Ulster, Simon Thomas writes:  I note on the Eddie Hall thread someone has talked about Hector Graham and “Duncan” Kyle. Well “Duncan” was always referred to as Henry. I say this as I gaze at the Dexter Brown painting of K3006 hanging above my desk given to me by Hector 30 years ago. A good old boy.

 

Regards - Simon

 

Denis Jenkinson certainly used to refer to Henry Kyle in connection with acquiring the Emeryson-Duesenberg single-seater.

 

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#56 D-Type

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Posted 03 April 2023 - 13:53

From Ulster, Simon Thomas writes:  I note on the Eddie Hall thread someone has talked about Hector Graham and “Duncan” Kyle. Well “Duncan” was always referred to as Henry. I say this as I gaze at the Dexter Brown painting of K3006 hanging above my desk given to me by Hector 30 years ago. A good old boy.

 

Regards - Simon

 

Denis Jenkinson certainly used to refer to Henry Kyle in connection with acquiring the Emeryson-Duesenberg single-seater.

 

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That looks as if, like JM Hawthorn and NG Hill they both used their second names as their everyday Christian names.



#57 Doug Nye

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Posted 03 April 2023 - 14:30

Well - at least that keeps us in touch with contemporary reality.  

 

One of the very rare occasions within recent years when I really spat the dummy - as they say - was when a colleague (to whom I ought perhaps apologise) took it upon himself to change all text references I had made to Italian driver Carlo Mario Abate to read Carlo 'Maria' Abate.  Remembering the driver in question, and having once confirmed his name with him - I detonated.

 

It was a real column of purple fire moment - as I guess it often can be when it involves someone who normally shows few signs of volcanic tendency.  When he protested that he'd checked it against the internet and "Wikipedia says..." - Kaboom!!!! (again).

 

Like many boys in Catholic Italy - including Enzo Ferrari - one of Abate's given names did indeed, I have been assured subsequently, pay homage to the mother of Christ - but during his racing career C.M Abate declared preference for the masculine spelling frequently used in contemporary press reports of his activities, in Italian as well as English and any other language.

 

Contemporary use versus register office takes precedence - as far as I am concerned.  I wonder what future post-period researchers may perhaps throw up where Indycar driver Sting Ray Robb - or similar - might be concerned.  But that one, to me, lacks the Italian charm...

 

DCN


Edited by Doug Nye, 03 April 2023 - 14:31.