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[umma gumma]

hey, finally bit the bullet & replaced my trusty old PII 400mh PC


( ended up getting one of the new AMD64 3200+, with 2 gigs of ram & a geforce 6800gt card, fwiw )



now I'm looking at getting a good F1 setup....



got to get GPL reinstalled again....just read they'
re still modding that awesome game + it's alive & well!!


as for modern F1 sims, what's out there for PC?

also I need a good USB steering wheel...any advice?



thx much!

[SpyderGTF1]

logitech series...
i have logitech momo, but not good reable..

[RDM]

Decent F1 sims for the PC are (still!) GPL, and F1C 99-02. Problem with F1C 99-02 is that its very hard to get hold of now. Unfortunately, Sony now have the F1 licence from the FIA so no new F1 sims for PC on forseeable future.

The latest and greatest racing game generally for the PC, imho, is GTR by SimBin, which has moved the quality and reality of racing sims a long way forward. As the name suggests, it is GT rather than F1 oriented, but although I have always been an F1 sim racer, have found myself hooked on this game - not least as it turns out I'm rather more competitive in a GT car than and F1 car!

A new release on the horizon from the same team - which I am very reliably informed is even better than GTR - is GTR Legends .

As for wheel - well, unless you want to wait for a BRD Speed 7 (what year will it be released?), a reasonable inexpensive option is the Logitech Momo Racing. Although I had vowed never to buy Logi wheels again after my old "red" Momo broke far too easily, the newer Momo Racing model seems to be holding up well, - pedals still not broken after over 5 months, and has good, useable FF, a decent grip and (for once!) a good mechanism for attaching to a desk.

I can confirm AMD 3500+ and 6800GT work very nicely with GTR when you have 35+ cars on screen!

Hope that is of some help anyway.

RDM

[mogwai]

I can attest that the Red momo is worth the money. Been driving it for over a year now (6 hours a week I guess) and not a problem. The black momo will eventually have problems, but the red one holds up very well. If you can afford it, buy yourself a set of the BRD speed7 pedals as they make throttle and brake control much more rewarding. I've been running the Speed7 pedals about 4 months and can say they are worth every penny!

GTR is the big name for PC Sim Racing lately, although it's sportscars. The GTP mod for Nascar Racing 2003 is another great and cheap buy! For F1 racing though I still find F1Challenge 99-02 with Ralph Hummerich's (spelling) updates for 2003 and 2004 to be great additions! By far though, the best add on mod for F1C is the Virtua_LM Prototype C mod. The detail on PTC is phenomenal and with input from Mulsanne Mike, you know you can't go wrong!

Of course all this goes without saying that GPL is a must. The 65 mod is a necessary add on for the granddaddy of sims!

You'll be all set.

mog

[RDM]

Originally posted by mogwai
I can attest that the Red momo is worth the money. Been driving it for over a year now (6 hours a week I guess) and not a problem.

To be fare to it, mine did get a mighty whack with my knees everytime I got out from my driving seat

[mogwai]

Originally posted by RDM

To be fare to it, mine did get a mighty whack with my knees everytime I got out from my driving seat

now THAT is cool!

mog

[Mox]

My red Momo developed a nasty wiggle - rocking back and forth without any input, making going straight a pest, and turning on the limit impossible (since the rocking would break traction).

Had it checked several times, with no improvement. Never found the flaw

Depending on budget, I would go for the new Logitech Driving force Pro, which includes a sequential gear lever as well as paddles, and supports 900 degrees of rotation. It also supports PS2.

Link here


But if budget is not the priority, and you really want the 'bees knees' for your new rig, then these guys rock: Ball Racing Development.

But do not click that link if on a restrained budget. And do not ever - under any circumstance - click on the following link to TSW, and when you don't - do not click on the link to product info and scroll down the page.

You have been warned !

[Wolf]

Originally posted by RDM

To be fare to it, mine did get a mighty whack with my knees everytime I got out from my driving seat

Then how about this - a strong case for using 70ies furniture methinks (compare the height to normal desk in the background)...;) BTW, I shift gears with buttons on that joystick- it feels better (even if it isn't as practical) than using paddles in GPL.

[Mat]

i like the ciggies and ashtray. Its like a modern Keke Rosberg.

[umma gumma]

wow, that GTR game looks awesome.....!!!!


downloaded the demo, but it won't run, gives me errors & crahses every time I try to launch it.


I'm a big sportscar GT fan too, actually....old '60's sportscars to the european touring cars, to the GT cup racers etc. plus the races are more forgiving than F1, you can bang around a bit....but more interesting tracks than nascar ;)

thx for all the tips!! looking into the logitech momo...gotta find it in Canada somewhere



cheers



ps I got GP4 installed with the IMG guys' mods, what a great looking game for an F1 sim

[Dolph]

How about trying Live For Speed - I love this game. go to www.liveforspeed.com to check it out! It is a very good sim, updated often.

[mogwai]

Originally posted by umma gumma
wow, that GTR game looks awesome.....!!!!


downloaded the demo, but it won't run, gives me errors & crahses every time I try to launch it.


I'm a big sportscar GT fan too, actually....old '60's sportscars to the european touring cars, to the GT cup racers etc. plus the races are more forgiving than F1, you can bang around a bit....but more interesting tracks than nascar ;)

thx for all the tips!! looking into the logitech momo...gotta find it in Canada somewhere



cheers



ps I got GP4 installed with the IMG guys' mods, what a great looking game for an F1 sim

Buy GTR and you won't regret it. There have been some problems with online play as well as getting the game to run...but overall the experience for GTR is worth it. The NGT and GT cars are a blast to drive and if you get into a good league, you won't believe the fun you can have.

mogwai

[SpyderGTF1]

how about SCARs

http://www.gamespot....tml?tag=mp_2to9

[PassWind]

Well anyone got any BRD kit, as a carpetner I make a good sim racer.

I am looking around for a more substantial setup, Hypersimulators look okay as well.

If I was to purchase I would look at a chassis, wheel and pedal setup at the same time.

I need more info than just anecdotal blurbs at their webistes.

Regards

http://www.hyperstim...togp_built.html

[mogwai]

I can't speak to the complete cockpit setup, but regarding BRD, i've been using the Speed7 pedals for about 400hrs now and have to say the build quality is excellent. If this quality is any indication of the rest of their products, then you can't go wrong.

Have you checked over at RSC hardware forum for more opinions?

mogwai

[kamix]

I've used the black momo racing force every week for over two years with no problems whatsoever. Haven't actually owned any other wheels but I struggle to find any shortcomings with this. Maybe a clutch pedal would be nice but as I mainly play F1 it's no biggie. One friend who owns one has a strange problem in that occasionally the wheel simply won't power up.. 20 minutes later it is fine. There is a slight driver issue when using the throttle/brake pedal on different axis, sometimes when loading a game there will be a slight throttle or brake input, just unplug the pedal connector from the wheel and plug it in again to fix that.

There are also some really important force feedback tweaks that you can find in this forum for that wheel.

F1 Challenge 99-02 is the pc sim to have. There are some great mods, RH2003, RH2004 which completely enhance the game and bring it up to 99-04 Season 05 is currently being worked on.

Links here

[PassWind]

Originally posted by mogwai
I can't speak to the complete cockpit setup, but regarding BRD, i've been using the Speed7 pedals for about 400hrs now and have to say the build quality is excellent. If this quality is any indication of the rest of their products, then you can't go wrong.

Have you checked over at RSC hardware forum for more opinions?

mogwai

Thanks for the feedback, I will have a look at RSC tonight.

[fillern]

Originally posted by kamix
Links here

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