39 replies to this topic

[toyota_lexus]

It's been said in Japan that Japanese GP will be held at Fuji Speedway from 2007 , which toyota own and rebuilded to make what it was the one of the most modern circuits over the world.

As you might know, Suzuka circuit's F1 contract is going to expire in 2006.

Which do you prefer, Suzuka or rebuilded Fuji Speedway?

I prefer Fuji Speedway because It contains 1.5km-long straight(the longest straight in F1 circuits) and a lots of overtaiking points.

[mikedeering]

You prefer Fuji because you have a worrying obsession with all things Toyota

Seriously, Suzuka is a fantastic track and along with Spa probably the one I would most hate to lose. Fuji just doesn't cut it (although I concede the backdrop is pretty spectacular).

[Ross Stonefeld]

No reason we cant have both...

[mikedeering]

Originally posted by Ross Stonefeld
No reason we cant have both...

There's a very good reason we can't have both. It's hard enough trouble dragging myself out of bed to watch one Japanese race a year. I am not doing it twice. They can only have Fuji if they move it to a European location and have a sensible start time. As Toyota own it Cologne would make a lot of sense.

[Racer Joe]

Originally posted by toyota_lexus
I prefer Fuji Speedway because It contains 1.5km-long straight(the longest straight in F1 circuits) and a lots of overtaiking points.

And who told you that? Toyota's PR machine?

I suggest a lap or two on GT4's rather accurate digital replication of Fuji 2005 before you say you like it. I don't know anyone who has does.

[Amir_S]

Spa, Monaco, Monza and Suzuka are must tracks for formula 1. Three of those are also the most demanding of driver circuits. But nothing surprises me anymore about formula 1. In a few more years there will only be pointless, nonsaying Tilke tracks left. As long as the arena is fancy then **** the racing seems to be the philosophy these days.

[skinnylizard]

hmmm. i thought the French GP would have moved to Paul Ricard with Bernie ownership but that has happened yet....
so why move the Japanese GP

[Witt]

Fuji speedway... great! Lets just chuck on the Bahrain setup and go racin'.

[BRG]

Better Fuji than Aida or Motegi or some of the other less than inspiring Japanese tracks.

But Suzuka is Japan's best circuit by far and is one of the world's best tracks and GPs should surely be run at the best tracks. A pity that Bernie and Tilko don't understand that simple point.

[Bart]

Originally posted by Racer Joe
And who told you that? Toyota's PR machine?

I suggest a lap or two on GT4's rather accurate digital replication of Fuji 2005 before you say you like it. I don't know anyone who has does.

I was thinking that when I voted for Suzuka. Fuji looks like the most unlikely circuit for overtaking in a modern F1 car.

[Racer Joe]

Originally posted by skinnylizard
hmmm. i thought the French GP would have moved to Paul Ricard with Bernie ownership but that has happened yet....
so why move the Japanese GP

Because the commercial terms he applies on race promoters and track owners ain't that great, so why would he rip himself off when there are plenty of suckers to pick from?

Toyota wants the GP on their track, so they will pay plenty for hosting rights. Not to mention that it could be a minor bargaining chip for Bernie and maybe, if you want to stretch it, drive a small wedge between Honda and Toyota in the GPWC.

[Umpire]

A few, if any, back-to-back corners showcase a driver's skill better than the Suzuka Esses.

Suzuka all the way. One of the best tracks out there, despite the recent 130R/Casio triangle tweaking

[HBoss]

Suzuka only.

[fifi]

suzuka

[FNG]

Suzuka hands down!

[Dudley]

Originally posted by BRG
Better Fuji than Aida or Motegi or some of the other less than inspiring Japanese tracks.

Have you seen the new Fuji?

[RiDE]

Originally posted by mikedeering


There's a very good reason we can't have both. It's hard enough trouble dragging myself out of bed to watch one Japanese race a year. I am not doing it twice. They can only have Fuji if they move it to a European location and have a sensible start time. As Toyota own it Cologne would make a lot of sense.

Boohoo... compared to the 13 or so races that i have to wake up at 4:30am in the morning for?

[911]

Both are really good circuits. Suzuka is a real drivers' track, and Fuji is a fast circuit. Have there been any changes to this track since the early '80s?

[Jerry Lee]

Originally posted by 911
Both are really good circuits. Suzuka is a real drivers' track, and Fuji is a fast circuit. Have there been any changes to this track since the early '80s?

The last long sweeping corner was turned into Mickey Mouse hell.

[911]

Originally posted by Jerry Lee


The last long sweeping corner was turned into Mickey Mouse hell.

Thanks, Jerry Lee. That's too bad because that was a FAST sweeper. Okay, so I guess this track isn't as fast as I thought it was.. In that case, keep Suzuka!

[Pilla]

Originally posted by mikedeering


There's a very good reason we can't have both. It's hard enough trouble dragging myself out of bed to watch one Japanese race a year. I am not doing it twice. They can only have Fuji if they move it to a European location and have a sensible start time. As Toyota own it Cologne would make a lot of sense.

Harden up, we down here at the bottom of the world have to watch european races at midnight monday morning, the north american races are slightly better, 4am.

[toyota_lexus]

Fuji Speedway help drivers to overtake but Suzuka doesn't so I prefer Fuji Speedway.

I watched a race at new Fuji Speedway it was very exciting in that there were a lot of overtaking and we could see machines run on the longest straight(1.5km) and there is a tight coner at the end of the straight so you can guess what could happen.


In addition, new Fuji Speedway(opened in this April) contains several corners at which a driver take several lines not a single line.

[Bernd]

Tilked Fuji is an abomination. Acres of tarmac, cookie cutter corners the exact definition of Mickey Mouse.

Christ you should have seen Fuji back in the sixties

[MN]

http://www.fujispeed...uide/index.html

see the circuit.

[mikedeering]

Originally posted by Pilla


Harden up, we down here at the bottom of the world have to watch european races at midnight monday morning, the north american races are slightly better, 4am.

I know, I know. For now at least Europeans have it easy, espeically compared to everyone more than a few hours ahead of CET. With Bernie moving more races outside the continent though things might change.

Back on topic - I think lexus is fighting a losing battle!

[WACKO]

Suzuka is one of the most technical and original circuits that we have on the calender. I wouldn't want to swap it for Fuji.

[DerChef]

On a lovely Sunny Day Fuji is a very beautiful place.

If its Raining.....er........um....anywhere else is on earth is preferable

[Zeus]

the poll results say it all, Suzuka is one of the few remaining greats on the calendar

[Dudley]

Originally posted by 911
Both are really good circuits. Suzuka is a real drivers' track, and Fuji is a fast circuit. Have there been any changes to this track since the early '80s?

ROFL.

Allow me to put it this way.

"Have there been any changes to Hockenheim since the early 80s"?

[Keir]

No brainer, use both !!!

[Amir_S]

Originally posted by MN
http://www.fujispeed...uide/index.html

see the circuit.

what a shitty track. If they change from suzuka to this piece of turd...... well I can't say it, it will get me banned.

[Frank963]

Originally posted by MN
http://www.fujispeed...uide/index.html

see the circuit.

The new Fuji rulez cant wait until F1 races there

[Jason]

Originally posted by mikedeering


There's a very good reason we can't have both. It's hard enough trouble dragging myself out of bed to watch one Japanese race a year. I am not doing it twice. They can only have Fuji if they move it to a European location and have a sensible start time. As Toyota own it Cologne would make a lot of sense.

LOL! F1 is an international sport, I'm sure the FIA isn't going to base their decision on the sleep patterns of one fan. Record the race if it's that much of a hassle. I don't know what the big deal is.

[Mr M0by]

Suzuka.

[sblick]

Flip Flop every other year. It keeps the teams on their toes and makes two manufacturers happy.

[mclarenroxxors]

Im not a rabid suzuka fan since I never see that race anyway(maybe will see it this time) but that fuji racetrack seriously sucked.

[100cc]

I really don't get the obsession with putting down tilke's tracks.... Sepang is an awesome challenging track, as are Bahrain and Shanghai. They also seem to make for good racing. The only problem that i can think of is that he designs all the tracks.

as for fuji/suzuka... suzuka!

[AlexS]

Suzuka is a great track.

Sepang is the only Tilke that i call a good track, even very good . Barhain is a Mikey Mouse IMHO.

[Jason]

Actually, the latest Formula Nippon race was held at the Fuji Speedway and there was plenty of passing. But, those guys were pretty sloppy, especially when it started the rain. Quickly turned into spincity...

[F1Fanatic.co.uk]

Suzuka by a million miles. Is there even so much as a single remotely quick corner on the entire Fuji track? Whereas Suzuka has Degner, Spoon, 130R... no contest.

And although I realise Japan is a vast market, it shouldn't get two Grands Prix per year. There aren't enough slots to go around as it is. Ditto Italy and Germany.