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#1 Doug Nye

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Posted 05 July 2005 - 16:37

Does anyone happen to know the present whereabouts of the two Lola T260 CanAm cars as used by Jackie Stewart in 1971?

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#2 2F-001

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Posted 05 July 2005 - 18:08

The subject of various CanAm cars' current homes featured in a post-Goodwood dinner conversation last week.
A friend said he thought he'd seen a T260 in the 'Rosso-Bianco" collection (or a reference to it, at least). That would have been four or so years ago though, I think.
That's far from a definitive answer, though, I'm afraid.

#3 David McKinney

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Posted 05 July 2005 - 18:10

Was one of them offered by Brooks in December 1997?
I thought the other was mit Peter Kaus, but that information might be out of date

#4 TIPO61

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Posted 05 July 2005 - 19:10

John Greenwood (Greenwood Corvette feller) owned one of them.

#5 Allen Brown

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Posted 05 July 2005 - 19:38

One was in the Rosso Bianco last year. See this.

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#6 TIPO61

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Posted 05 July 2005 - 20:04

Who stole the nose?

#7 xkssFrankOpalka

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Posted 06 July 2005 - 21:37

I think I saw one at Road America when Stewart drove for Carl Haas. Ill watch to see if one shows up at RA Vintage races.

#8 Andrew Kitson

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Posted 07 July 2005 - 06:33

The Peter Kaus one shown in the 'Rosso Bianco' collection at Aschaffenberg has been there for years. I first visited the museum in around '87 I guess as I worked in Germany at the time and visited often. It was there at this time.
Wonderful cars there, the only 'minus' point being they needed more cleaners! Some of the cars were under mountains of dust although this may have been addressed since of course as I have not been back for about 12 years. I have some photos I'll try to get around to scanning.

#9 Ted Walker

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Posted 07 July 2005 - 07:02

Doug. John Foulston had one of these cars,I assume that was the one that was auctioned.

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Posted 07 July 2005 - 11:32

I understand JYS wasn't exactly thrilled with the handling of the T260. It was fast but apparently it handled like a pig.

As far as the "cow-catcher" front wing (that's lacking in the photo), it was only installed later in the season to provide some much-needed front end grip. It's understandable that it might be displayed without it. (It was kind of hideous looking)

#11 Andrew Kitson

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Posted 07 July 2005 - 12:19

I have found a few photos I took at the 'Rosso Bianco' collection in Achaffenberg.
All taken in 1990.

Here is the T260 at the time:
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More cars from the 200+ exhibits. Think this is a T222 with March 707 behind.
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A Porsche v Ferrari reminder:
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Lola T70 MkIII:
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Gorgeous little 904:
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#12 JacnGille

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Posted 07 July 2005 - 14:39

Originally posted by biercemountain
I understand JYS wasn't exactly thrilled with the handling of the T260. It was fast but apparently it handled like a pig.


I believe "Pregnat Elephant" was his exact description. :cool:

#13 David McKinney

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Posted 07 July 2005 - 17:39

Originally posted by Ted Walker
Doug. John Foulston had one of these cars,I assume that was the one that was auctioned.

He certainly had several T530s
Did he have a 260 as well?

#14 Peter Morley

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Posted 07 July 2005 - 17:55

Originally posted by David McKinney

He certainly had several T530s
Did he have a 260 as well?


I remember Foulston with a white & red L&M colour 260, with the cow catcher (not sure if he drove it or got someone else to do so).
I thought it was auctioned along with (some of) his other cars.

I think Rosso Bianco/Peter Kaus had his 260 before the auction (+ by the time of the Foulston auction (late 1997?) I thought he was trying to avoid buying more cars), but it could well be the same one.

#15 Doug Nye

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Posted 07 July 2005 - 18:03

Thanks fellers - just one of those things to do in haste which I couldn't fit in without a little assistance. The Kaus and Foulston T260s are different cars, 'we' at Brooks/Bonhams sold the Foulston car some years ago for Mrs Mary Foulston but I have simply lost track of it since - trying to spin too many plates simultaneously...

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#16 Allen Brown

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Posted 07 July 2005 - 18:11

Originally posted by Peter Morley


I remember Foulston with a white & red L&M colour 260, with the cow catcher (not sure if he drove it or got someone else to do so).
I thought it was auctioned along with (some of) his other cars.

I think Rosso Bianco/Peter Kaus had his 260 before the auction (+ by the time of the Foulston auction (late 1997?) I thought he was trying to avoid buying more cars), but it could well be the same one.

This has jogged my memory. I did a search of my F1 notes and found that Foulston bought an "ex-Stewart L&M Lola T260 Can-Am car" from Don Walker in February 1985.

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Posted 08 July 2005 - 22:18

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I think Mike Wilds demonstrated the car at Brands Hatch at an historic meeting where some of Foulstons car ran during the lunch break as a tribute to him.

Also I have a very vague recollection of Mike Wilds running in a "Supersports" type race at Brands Hatch in the same car, though I think he retired at the first corner.

#18 Frank S

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Posted 09 July 2005 - 00:35

Couple of views at Riverside in the top row in T H I S ALBUM of Curt Anderson's photos.

#19 Allen Brown

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Posted 09 July 2005 - 08:42

Not sure where these were taken. Copyright Bill Oursler but used with permisssion:

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Is this a T260?

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#20 Andrew Kitson

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Posted 09 July 2005 - 09:08

I would say yes Allen, looks identical!

#21 Rob Ryder

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Posted 09 July 2005 - 10:53

Originally posted by Andrew Kitson
I would say yes Allen, looks identical!

T260 used by Tom Heyser through the 1972 Can-Am series.. and Reine Wisell on one occasion ;)
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1972 Can-Am Watkins Glen - Reine Wisell Lola T260 (Source unknown)
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Posted 09 July 2005 - 14:18

Road Atlanta was the location for the photos Allen posted.

#23 Jim Thurman

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Posted 09 July 2005 - 19:30

Schkee beat me to it, but I was going to point out Road Atlanta being the track in the photos Allen posted. Allen, as in the case of the F5000 photo you posted, note the red earth in the bluff, a sure sign of Road Atlanta.

As far as Lola T260s, I recall that Bob Nagel ran one in the '73 Can-Am series. Heyser's car a year later, or the other one?

I remember standing alongside both the Heyser Roman Brio sponsored mount and Nagel's blue Lola in the paddock at Riverside International. Should have a picture or two I took...around here...somwhere...

#24 Allen Brown

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Posted 09 July 2005 - 20:45

Good page here that explains it all: http://www.geocities...60-Palmares.htm

HU1: Stewart 1971 - Hansen 1972 - Nagel 1973 - Nagel 1974 ...
HU2: Stewart 1971 - Heyser 1972 - Gunn 1973 - Gunn 1974 ...

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#25 Jim Thurman

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Posted 10 July 2005 - 20:25

Originally posted by Allen Brown
Good page here that explains it all: http://www.geocities...60-Palmares.htm

HU1: Stewart 1971 - Hansen 1972 - Nagel 1973 - Nagel 1974 ...
HU2: Stewart 1971 - Heyser 1972 - Gunn 1973 - Gunn 1974 ...


Thanks Allen, I hadn't had time to search.

John Gunn, I should have remembered his T260...as I only stood alongside it, inches away as it rolled past heading out of the paddock and onto the pit road at Riverside :rolleyes: (for forgetting). I thought there was another T260 at Riverside.

I probably took a photo of it as well as the Nagel car and possibly Heyser's as well.

#26 Seppi_0_917PA

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Posted 11 July 2005 - 00:38

Pete Lyon, while discussing Reine Wisell's entry in the 1972 Watkins Glen Can-Am, states that only one of the two T-260s was ever actually raced in 1971 by Stewart:

Reine Wisell stood in for Tom Heyser, a schoolteacher who owned 1971's unraced, spare T-260 (known as the "White House Car" for its only public appearance that year) but who had sprained his wrist.

Can-Am, Pete Lyons, pg194

(I have a vague recollection of a picture of a few drivers meeting Nixon at the White House and the T-260 is in the picture.)

#27 Allen Brown

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Posted 17 July 2005 - 12:18

A little bird has just whispered in my ear that the Foulston T260 was bought at the auction by Mike McComas on behalf of someone in Texas. The little bird reports that it is still in Texas.

Is that what you needed Doug? Or do you need a name?

Allen

#28 mwphoto

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Posted 17 July 2005 - 14:22

I got to see both of them run in 73' at Mid-Ohio.
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#29 John-w

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Posted 10 October 2005 - 18:29

Hello,

can anybody help me to get detailed photos from this Lola T260?
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This photos would be very helpful for me to build this car in scale 1/12th.

Thanks

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#30 Stephane Lebiez

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Posted 10 October 2005 - 20:56

Nice photo of Jojn Gunn at Laguna Seca in 1973 !

http://membres.lycos.fr/canam