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[FordPrefect]

titles says it all.

If there isn't I could make one up, but I am trying to reform

[Ruud de la Rosa]

It's an legend! Two lions were fighting and suddenly some bloke named Colin Chapman gave them wings! They got more downforce and they went to work on their set-ups.

[smarty]

Ruud, it's not complete. What is the meaning of those 5 stars?

[Andy]

Smarty - That's AtlasF1's rating amongst F1 web sites!! #1

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[Rich]

Paul Kaizar is the only person who can answer this. Paul?

[Paul]

There are hidden messages and meanings to the logo which I choose not to divulge.



Paul

[Ripples]

The griffins represent Max Mosley (on the right) and Bernie Ecclesone (on the left) trying to get their claws on Atlas F1?

[Paul]

cold

[Ripples]

ok, so it's you and bira (where's the boobies though)?

[Paul]

Heh, very cold.

[Mr. Salty]

Oh MAN! Everybody behave, Paul is here.

[Pit Babe]

Oh cool! Everybody misbehave more - Paul's here

[Mr. Salty]

Just wondering, does Paul ever go into the Paddock Club? There's some guy with a long leather trench coat that never speaks, just hangs around at the end of the bar, that makes me wonder.

[Paul]

I'm the guy passed out in the corner.



Paul

[FordPrefect]

Paul,
If nobody minds too much I think I'll post the story behind it in the Paddock Club this weekend, please notice I am asking

FP

[Paul]

Story and asking about what?

Paul

[FordPrefect]

now what have I done?

I was thinking about making up a story regarding the logo and posting it in the Paddock Club, something along the lines of my "Atlas FAQ".

just didn't want to step on any toes.

FP

[Paul]

FP:

Why don't you email me directly with the plan.

Thanks,

Paul

[Ripples]

The Illustrated Evolution of the Atlas F1 Logo

March 1995. Paul Kaizar goes for the no-images/text-only approach, and there is no logo to be found.

Hungary GP, 1995. Paul Kaizar becomes daring, and Atlas Team Formula One has a new logo, that will appear on the website's front page for the next year:



France 1996. Paul Kaizar decides to be more daring, and comes up with yet another logo, which accentuates the fact that it is ATLAS after all :



End of the 1996 season. Well, Paul Kaizar had enough of the old scheme, and a new logo is launched, offering simplistic art tendency (in plain English: a smaller banner ) - this one will last for a year:



The end of the 1997 season: the herald is born! Paul Kaizar's griffins and shield make a first appearance, however this version will only last a few issues:



Beginning of 1998. The Atlas F1 trademark and logo has placed its stamp. However, the new website's banner will appear on the front page of this distinguished magazine for only a few months:



Hungary 1999. Paul Kaizar finally comes to terms with what the Atlas F1 logo should be like and the herald becomes the Atlas F1 logo for all eternity (we hope!). The banner, like the website, also settle down to reflect the quality journalism the website offers its readers. From that day on, the Atlas F1 banner has been:



Long live Paul Kaizar!

[Andy]

Wow! There's some there that I've never seen and I found this place ages/years ago!!

Hey Ripples, for a Newbie, you sure did your homework!!

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[Ripples]

heh, Andy, I was bored, so I just went through their archives in search of WHEN exactly this logo started. I was a bit shocked at some of the banners I saw along the way...

[Paul]

Ripples:

Haha, excellent! Thanks for the recap as I forget some of the history myself. And, yes, some of the artwork was... well... heh... not that good.

Thanks very much for the review!

Paul

[The Sleeper]

wow, that's some cool artwork! I like em all actually

Paul, do you have a background in graphical design?

[Alfisti]

is it just me or is paul beginning to get the aura of "kaizer sosay" in The Usual Suspect??

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[FordPrefect]

Ripples, very impressive indeed

Paul, I'll email you this weekend

FP

[Paul]

For the record, I'm just another dude.



Paul

[The Sleeper]

Nobody who makes a website like this one can be 'just another dude', Paul. Credits where credits are due. This is one great website and from what I have seen the only one that combines up to date news with in depth articles. Thanks for keeping up the good work for all these years, Paul

[MrAerodynamicist]

What about the name "AtlasF1", where did that come from?

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[The Sleeper]

MrAerodynamicist, Paul wrote about that in an article : http://www.atlasf1.c...iew/kaizar.html

[Paul]

The Sleeper:

I appreciate the sentiment. I really do. However, I can't take most of the credit. Bira, the current staff, the original core, and the readers deserve 99.9% of the kudos. We are a team. All of us.

Thanks for the pat on the back, though.

Best regards,

Paul

[FordPrefect]

don't go away yet, there's more pats coming, plus of course another question

I know that in terms of F1 news, writers and forums this place is the BEST. But then again someone has to be at the top and with all the long hours that this group puts AND their dedication it's no wonder that it's Atlas.

What does seem unique about Atlas however is The Paddock Club.

It's about anything BUT F1, it's about people.

The people there are smart, unique and at times just a little over the top.

We always seem to push the limits, whether it's by posting the 'wrong' type of photo, asking the 'wrong' question or trying to trick PB or Pascal into revealing more than they should.

I'm sure there have been times when you have wondered if it's all worth it

well it is, it's what seperates Atlas from the rest of the herd.

thanks for that Paul, (and B), it's what makes your site very special.

now if you could only tell me who came up with the idea, when and why?

...if you can't or won't say , look for an AtlasF1 Paddock Club FAQ in your future.

all the best FP

[Mr. Salty]

It truly pains me to say this, but I agree with FordPrefect on the Paddock Club issue. Nicely seperates the inane, silly, perverted stuff from the general viewing public so potential new Members aren't exposed too early to the likes of theMot and Ford.

The Readers section is largely F1/other series of racing related, but when I'm in the mood to just relax and have fun, the PC is the place. Other F1 forums air their dirty laundry in the main BB areas, and it clutters everything up.

BTW, Paul, thank you for recognizing all I have done for Atlas F1, you are welcome.

[FordPrefect]

Paul, please disregard the above post, his medication has run out

regards FP

[Ripples]

If you are right, and the thing that makes the efforts of so many people to make Atlas F1 the best, is in fact a non-F1 forum, then that's very sad.

[Mr. Salty]

Methinks you have missed the point, Ripples. The other F1 forums have off-topic nonsense right there in the middle of the F1 threads, usually with some really angry "I hate Americans because..." or "Britain Sucks because...", which always leaves a bad impression. Here, that kind of stuff is tucked away in the PC where Members that have ASKED for access can read it and argue about it. For F1 related info, you have Readers, Nostalgia, Technical forums to go to. To goof off without scaring away potential newbies you have the PC. Get it?

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[Ripples]

Salty, I don't think I missed the point. This is what Ford Prefect said:

I know that in terms of F1 news, writers and forums this place is the BEST. But then again someone has to be at the top and with all the long hours that this group puts AND their dedication it's no wonder that it's Atlas.

What does seem unique about Atlas however is The Paddock Club.

It's about anything BUT F1, it's about people.

[Mr. Salty]

Whatever. You aren't going to drag me into your self imposed misery, I like it here for all of the reasons stated above, and I've tried all of the other so-called major forums. If you think it's "sad" here, there are places looking for new members every day. Have a nice day, Ripples.

[Ripples]

Mr. Salty, it seems you are the one who got it all wrong...

What I find "sad" is the fact that a group of 20 or so people from around the world really work hard on producing what they would like to believe is a premiere F1 magazine. And then someone comes along and says that what makes their labour of love so unique is actually something that has the least to do with their work - then It's sad, IF it's true.

It's like saying to the owner of a big theatre and to the entire production crew of a play that's showing there, that what makes them unique are the hotdogs in the cafiteria... I don't think that would have constituted as a compliment to an actor, and I don't think what FP said constitute as a compliment to the journalists of Atlas F1...

I am absolutely sure he meant all the compliments in the world to this site and I had no intentions of elaborating on this point (which really does blow it out of proportions), but obviously you totally misread me to begin with, hence this lengthy explanation.

And by the way, I am emotionally involved in Atlas F1 -- I had two or three articles appear on it in the past and I still remember the first time (I think about 3-4 years ago) that an article I wrote appeared there; I was on cloud 9. I literally walked all day with a grin on my face, as if my article was in the NY Times...

So maybe I am reflecting from my own experience on the entire members of the Atlas F1 team, but I get a strong feeling they will much rather be appreciated for their journalistic achievements than for their social ones...

[Mr. Salty]

Ahhhh. That clears it up a bit then. Can't speak for Ford, but I was referring only to the BB section of Atlas, not the Journalistic side. Still find your use of the word "sad" a tad out of place, but I do see your point now.

I DO think Ford was also referring to what you call the "social" aspect of Atlas, but he'll have to confirm that himself if he ever bothers to show up again.

[FordPrefect]

I'm back,
sorry I couldn't be here earlier but our internet connection at work did a slow death while I was trying to do this post.

And after work I had to hang around a body shop waiting to get my car back.

Ripples, if I was not clear on my point I am sorry.

The fact is that without The Paddock Club Atlas is still the BEST I think that we can all agree on that.

I still think that the Paddock Club format is also something special, it allows 'off topic' comments to be made without getting in the way of the F1 posts.

I don't believe that liking the Paddock Club in any way detracts from the quality of the writing on the F1 side.

This board is clearly greater than the sum of it's parts.

I understand your point on the movie theatre, however my comments were not meant to reflect on the journalists. They were nothing more than noting that Atlas seems to be able to provide everything for everybody, writing, news and a free wheeling social side. It is this mix that appeals to me, and I think that this unique blend is what sets Atlas apart.

Ripples, I can understand your pride at getting your articles on Atlas, that's something that happens to only a select few, you're in good company.

My comments about the Paddock Club should do nothing to diminish those feelings.

I don't suppose I could invite you over to the Paddock Club where we can both drink a toast to this place.

Salty, for a Kentuckian living near Georgia you do have your moments

all the best FP

[Mr. Salty]

And they make fun of Americans and their lack of knowledge of geography. *sigh*

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[FordPrefect]

Salty

did you ever think that WE may be the reason why Paul stays out of the Paddock Club??

[Mr. Salty]

Hehe! I always thought so, but he responded to my Battlefield Earth thread, you know, the one that was hijacked by anti-Scientology people.

[FordPrefect]

how long will it be until this thread joins us there?

[Mr. Salty]

I boldly predict this thread will not suffer the indignity of being wisked away to the Paddock Club.

[Mr. Salty]

See?

[FordPrefect]

well then let's see if it can hit 100, of course being here no-one will ever know.

sort of like Baffin Island.

three lines and I have to edit

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[MrAerodynamicist]

Originally posted by Ripples:
I had two or three articles appear on it in the past and I still remember the first time (I think about 3-4 years ago) that an article I wrote appeared there; I was on cloud 9. I literally walked all day with a grin on my face, as if my article was in the NY Times...

Ah, thats nought. I had my website listed in F1 Racing Magazine Heck I'm still on cloud nine and it was years ago



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