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[Louis Mr. F1]

that means going down EauRouge and the long straight DOWNHILL, do you think that'd be even more challenging? i know the FIA would need to modify the curbs/sandtraps location, but i think this would provide great spectacle.

it's a pity that we only have 1 SPA, if there're 2, we can have races on both directions.

what other circuits you want to see them run in reverse direction?

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the above idea was prompted by Renault's recent testing there.

[WACKO]

That would mean Bus stop as the first corner. Impossible. That's a guarantee for disaster. You can be happy if ten cars would make it through the first corner. Eau rouge downhill is also too dangerous with La Source waiting...

[Louis Mr. F1]

well, we can make the hairpin as the first corner by moving the starting grid a bit down the road....

yes downhill to Eau Rouge is more dangerous, but that's the challenge i'd like to see the drivers take on

[917k]

Running it backwards on my Playstation is good enough for me.Especially with Murray Walker screaming in my ear,''He's going the wrong way!!''

[John B]

Zaandvoort would have an interesting change - going from a tight 1st turn after a long straight fed by a fast sweeping curve to the reverse

[F1 Tor.]

mind to comes Suzuka.lines finish start the before chicanes tight have that circuits some are there if especially well very work would it think don"t I.;)

[HBoss]

Tilke tracks have run offs so huge that they might be run backwards with some small changes.

I think Sepang would be a great place for that.

[Louis Mr. F1]

Originally posted by F1 Tor.
mind to comes Suzuka.lines finish start the before chicanes tight have that circuits some are there if especially well very work would it think don"t I.;)

chicane the remove just

answering of way your meant i ,answer your like i

[F1 Tor.]

Originally posted by Louis Mr. F1



chicane the remove just

answering of way your meant i ,answer your like i

Thanks. Sounds interesting but if we're going to start removing chicanes then we're just creating new tracks, not that there's anything wrong with that at some circuits. However, to go back to Suzuka for 1 minute. If there was no final chicane drivers would be going at full speed going into 130 R with one clear racing line. I mean we all like to see the drivers challenged but that would be insane and wouldn't work.

[jonovision_man]

This thread proves it - we need more than 1 race in August.

jono

[F1 Tor.]

Originally posted by jonovision_man
This thread proves it - we need more than 1 race in August.

jono

you're probably right but it is an interesting question from a technical perspective.

[SkorbiF1]

Originally posted by F1 Tor.
mind to comes Suzuka.lines finish start the before chicanes tight have that circuits some are there if especially well very work would it think don"t I.;)

ugh... argh... unghh.. grr.. umm.. ugh.. I give up...

[edit] Got it, a bit slow maybe.. [/edit]

[fumes]

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Yllis!

[Shadow]

Interlagos will be great... ow, wait! Now it's run in reverse, the original circuit was on the other way round

[Louis Mr. F1]

Originally posted by jonovision_man
This thread proves it - we need more than 1 race in August.

jono

you are absolutley right indeed

[scheivlak]

Mentioned in a TNF thread: recently Toyota ran a few testing kms in both directions at Spa (up and down Eau Rouge) - a short clip: http://media.putfile.com/toyota62

[jonovision_man]

Originally posted by scheivlak
Mentioned in a TNF thread: recently Toyota ran a few testing kms in both directions at Spa (up and down Eau Rouge) - a short clip: http://media.putfile.com/toyota62

That was cool.

(As for the people at the wall in the video... GET SOME EARPLUGS! )

jono

[MrSlow]

" Eau rouge downhill is also too dangerous with La Source waiting..."

Eau Rouge (the river) is at the lowest point of the track. It is downhill from La Source, meaning that bit would be uphill reversed. But I think the challenge would be somewhat lost in the other direction. What is challenging now is that right in the compression coming down from La Source you must turn, then you will have to turn again as the car goes light on the crest. Going the other way around would just give the compression, flat out easily, propably even without wings. The entry of the reversed Eau Rouge would be a bit tricky though, very fast lefthander over crest. But I think there where corners in Turkey that was worse.

[Ivan]

Louis,
I have also wondered about racing some of these tracks in the reverse direction!!
And putting the start line back on the other side of LaSource would solve the Bus Stop issue.

[BorderReiver]

Originally posted by Louis Mr. F1
What if F1 races at SPA in reverse direction?

The universe of time and space collapses in on itself and we all die . . .

[plmoknijb]

I think Monaco would be an interesting track to run in reverse, although they'd have to modify the chicane, and the first corner would be a little tight . But the rest would be great I think. The run downhill to St. Dévote would be super-quick, and the uphill Loews hairpin section would be quite cool too!

[fumes]

Reminds me of the joke current at the time that Sweden switched to driving on the right hand side of the road: "To reduce the impact of the change, it will be done in stages. This month trucks, next month all other traffic."

So, on a serious note (well...), on which tracks would a change in direction benefit Michelin or Bridgestone more than the other?

[MilanF1]

Originally posted by plmoknijb
...and the uphill Loews hairpin section would be quite cool too!

Pau comes to mind.

[pio!pio!]

Indianapolis in reverse..then Michelin definately can't run as the banked turn will be taken at terminal speed...not to mention braking on the banking while turning into the corner...

[biercemountain]

Originally posted by pio!pio!
Indianapolis in reverse..then Michelin definately can't run as the banked turn will be taken at terminal speed...not to mention braking on the banking while turning into the corner...

I've always thought a 12 hour sports car race at Indy, running in the reverse direction from F1 would be cool.

[BRG]

Originally posted by WACKO
Eau rouge downhill is also too dangerous with La Source waiting...

I think you would have had your accident long before you got to La Source. A F1 car at full chat would surely take off on the lip at the top of Raidillon. This would make it a bit difficult to steer through the R-L-R curve down to Eau Rouge proper. I think the very first lap would see a pile-up that would involve the entire field and that would be that.

[jonovision_man]

Originally posted by biercemountain


I've always thought a 12 hour sports car race at Indy, running in the reverse direction from F1 would be cool.

I've always thought an F1 race at Indy running in reverse direction (ie. the CORRECT direction ) using the full oval would be VERY cool.

jono

[Menace]

Originally posted by scheivlak
Mentioned in a TNF thread: recently Toyota ran a few testing kms in both directions at Spa (up and down Eau Rouge) - a short clip: http://media.putfile.com/toyota62

So did Renault, just two days ago!

Did everyone miss the article on the first page talking about Renault getting "Spa advantage" with Heikki running Spa backwards with a RenaultF1?

edit: Very cool clip!

[Pioneer]

Running tracks in the wrong direction is pretty much a non-starter under race conditions.

Everything is in the wrong place, runoffs, tire barriers, catch fencing, pit entrance and exits, pitlane speed limit system, lighting systems all face the wrong direction, timing system would have to be all reversed, speed traps would be at the wrong ends of straight aways, grandstands face the wrong direction (particularly annoying... who wants to sit where the cars approach you from behind, corner, then take off in front of you so you only ever see their rear ends??), fence exits for safety vehicles face the wrong way, chicanes not chicaning (thats a word because I just made it up and I say so)...

I could go on.

You only see this on video games cause programmers are lazy... twice the tracks for free! I find it annoying on almost a subconscious level to drive a sim track that no sanctioning body in the world would approve even for golf carts.

[MrSlow]

Originally posted by BRG
I think you would have had your accident long before you got to La Source. A F1 car at full chat would surely take off on the lip at the top of Raidillon. This would make it a bit difficult to steer through the R-L-R curve down to Eau Rouge proper. I think the very first lap would see a pile-up that would involve the entire field and that would be that.

I think that a average F1 driver would be able to brake for a corner over a crest. They managed quite well in Turkey. Going "flat" is of course out of the question.

[pirul]

This is still here?

Monza can't come soon enough!!

[Mila]

I'm pretty sure that when they re-opened Kyalami in 93, after the modifications--which included making the track counter-clockwise instead of clockwise--Andrea de Cesaris unknowingly ran his Tyrrell in the wrong direction during a pre-season test.

[A Wheel Nut]

Originally posted by scheivlak
Mentioned in a TNF thread: recently Toyota ran a few testing kms in both directions at Spa (up and down Eau Rouge) - a short clip: http://media.putfile.com/toyota62

Good to see that went all out and also hired a camera man from the race weekend, just like the real thing, we miss most of the action!