Can anyone suggest any sites with DTM and/or ITCC results from the 1990s? Thank you.
DTM / ITCC 1990s
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, Sep 20 2005 12:09
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Frank de Jong
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Posted 20 September 2005 - 12:11
www.dtm.de has a large results section (history) with results back to 1984.
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FerrariV12
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Posted 26 September 2005 - 13:30
They may have been comparable F1 cars with touring car shells, the ITC and its associated costs may have been unsustainable in the long run, but it was a great period while it lasted. The first ever motor race I attended was the Donington ITC race in 1995, and I was back again for Silverstone the following year. The cars themselves were something else altogether, and as a wide-eyed 12/13 year old, the chance to see a number of ex-F1 drivers with my own eyes, that before I had only read about in books and seen on TV, was a great experience.
Somehow the post-2000 DTM, for all its stars, doesn't seem to quite have the same attraction...
Somehow the post-2000 DTM, for all its stars, doesn't seem to quite have the same attraction...
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Posted 26 September 2005 - 15:52
Yes, i understand you very well...
The 90's were the best time of DTM. The 80's have too much German tracks and this new era lost some of that glamour.
The 90's were the best time of DTM. The 80's have too much German tracks and this new era lost some of that glamour.
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Posted 07 January 2006 - 23:26
I’m reviving this topic because, after checking the links above - plus this one - I have yet to find the full results for two 1994 races. They are Nürburgring, 8th May, and Singen, 18th September. I have all the points scorers, but not the rest of the results. Can you help?
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Posted 08 January 2006 - 12:13
From "Touring Car World 94/95" by Fabio Ravaioli and Fernando Morandi
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ADAC Eifelrennen, Nürburgring, May 8 1994
Race 1
Race 2
Internationaler ADAC-Preis Singen Alemannenring, Singen, 18 September 1994
Race 1
Race 2
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ADAC Eifelrennen, Nürburgring, May 8 1994
Race 1
Pos No Driver Team Car Laps Time F.Lap Qualifying --- -- ------------------ ------------------- ------------------------- ---- -------- ------- ------------- 1 7 Klaus Ludwig AMG AMG-Mercedes C-Klasse 23 43:30.91 4 1:37.68 2 11 Christian Danner Schübel Engineering Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI 23 43:34.35 10 1:39.34 3 15 Jörg van Ommen Zakspeed AMG-Mercedes C-Klasse 23 43:32.08 3 1:37.64 4 1 Nicola Larini Alfa Corse Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI 23 43:43.22 1:50.17 7 1:38.25 5 18 Kris Nissen Schübel Engineering Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI 23 43:47.43 12 1:39.67 6 5 Manuel Reuter Joest Racing Opel Calibra V6 23 43:51.65 6 1:37.94 7 2 Alessandro Nannini Alfa Corse Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI 23 44:06.18 8 1:38.66 8 12 Giorgio Francia Schübel Engineering Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI 23 44:08.15 13 1:40.38 9 14 Kurt Thiim Zakspeed AMG-Mercedes C-Klasse 23 44:08.83 5 1:37.75 10 8 Ellen Lohr AMG AMG-Mercedes C-Klasse 23 44:19.80 9 1:38.95 11 19 Uwe Alzen Persson Motorsport AMG-Mercedes 190E 23 44:58.46 16 1:41.51 12 3 Roland Asch AMG AMG-Mercedes C-Klasse 23 45:00.60 11 1:39.34 13 21 Sandy Grau DTM Junior Team AMG-Mercedes 190E 22 18 1:42.46 14 17 John Winter Joest Racing Opel Calibra V6 22 21 1:43.21 15 33 Stefano Buttiero Alfa Corse Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI 22 14 1:42.72 16 28 Andy Wallace Schübel Engineering Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI 22 15 1:43.18 17 30 Gianni Giudici Scuderia Giudici Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI 22 26 1:44.45 18 24 Stig Amthor DTM Junior Team AMG-Mercedes 190E 22 20 1:43.16 19 9 Frank Schmickler Linder Rennsport BMW E36 22 23 1:43.75 20 20 Marc Gindorf Persson Motorsport AMG-Mercedes 190E 22 17 1:42.44 21 23 Jürgen Ruch Ruch Motorsport Ford Mustang GT 21 29 1:45.62 22 35 Rüdiger Schmitt WS DHL Team BMW E36 21 27 1:45.04 23 31 Armin Bernhard BAS Auto Technik Mercedes 190E 2.5-16 Evo2 21 28 1:45.51 R 26 Carsten Struwe Team Engstler Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI 14 25 1:43.94 R 22 Gerd Ruch Ruch Motorsport Ford Mustang GT 12 24 1:43.83 R 27 Michael Bartels Schübel Engineering Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI 11 22 1:43.35 R 25 Franz Engstler Team Engstler Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI 10 19 1:42.96 R 6 Keke Rosberg Joest Racing Opel Calibra V6 7 2 1:37.53 R 4 Bernd Schneider AMG AMG-Mercedes C-Klasse 3 1 1:37.35 DNS 34 Harald Becker WS DHL Team BMW E36 0 30 1:46.60
Race 2
Pos No Driver Team Car Laps Time F.Lap --- -- ------------------ ------------------- ------------------------- ---- -------- ------- 1 1 Nicola Larini Alfa Corse Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI 23 46:42.94 2 11 Christian Danner Schübel Engineering Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI 23 46:43.33 3 7 Klaus Ludwig AMG AMG-Mercedes C-Klasse 23 46:49.85 1:50.72 4 18 Kris Nissen Schübel Engineering Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI 23 46:51.11 5 15 Jörg van Ommen Zakspeed AMG-Mercedes C-Klasse 23 46:52.02 6 3 Roland Asch AMG AMG-Mercedes C-Klasse 23 46:54.81 7 2 Alessandro Nannini Alfa Corse Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI 23 46:56.75 8 12 Giorgio Francia Schübel Engineering Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI 23 47:04.48 9 8 Ellen Lohr AMG AMG-Mercedes C-Klasse 23 47:06.85 10 14 Kurt Thiim Zakspeed AMG-Mercedes C-Klasse 23 47:08.51 11 33 Stefano Buttiero Alfa Corse Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI 23 47:13.60 12 25 Franz Engstler Team Engstler Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI 23 47:13.79 13 19 Uwe Alzen Persson Motorsport AMG-Mercedes 190E 23 47:18.62 14 27 Michael Bartels Schübel Engineering Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI 23 47:21.57 15 21 Sandy Grau DTM Junior Team AMG-Mercedes 190E 22 16 4 Bernd Schneider AMG AMG-Mercedes C-Klasse 22 17 20 Marc Gindorf Persson Motorsport AMG-Mercedes 190E 22 18 17 John Winter Joest Racing Opel Calibra V6 22 19 26 Carsten Struwe Team Engstler Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI 22 20 28 Andy Wallace Schübel Engineering Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI 21 21 23 Jürgen Ruch Ruch Motorsport Ford Mustang GT 21 R 35 Rüdiger Schmitt WS DHL Team BMW E36 19 R 24 Stig Amthor DTM Junior Team AMG-Mercedes 190E 12 R 5 Manuel Reuter Joest Racing Opel Calibra V6 10 R 9 Frank Schmickler Linder Rennsport BMW E36 6 R 30 Gianni Giudici Scuderia Giudici Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI 4 R 6 Keke Rosberg Joest Racing Opel Calibra V6 4 R 31 Armin Bernhard BAS Auto Technik Mercedes 190E 2.5-16 Evo2 1 DNS 22 Gerd Ruch Ruch Motorsport Ford Mustang GT 0 DNS 34 Harald Becker WS DHL Team BMW E36 0
Internationaler ADAC-Preis Singen Alemannenring, Singen, 18 September 1994
Race 1
Pos No Driver Team Car Laps Time F.Lap Qualifying --- -- ------------------ ------------------- ------------------------- ---- -------- ------- ------------- 1 1 Nicola Larini Alfa Corse Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI 34 48:36.87 1:23.94 2 1:15.08 2 10 Stefano Modena Alfa Corse Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI 34 48:58.98 1 1:15.06 3 18 Kris Nissen Schübel Engineering Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI 34 49:01.65 8 1:15.88 4 12 Giorgio Francia Schübel Engineering Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI 34 49:04.52 10 1:16.05 5 11 Christian Danner Schübel Engineering Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI 34 49:10.43 12 1:16.54 6 5 Manuel Reuter Joest Racing Opel Calibra V6 34 49:31.07 11 1:16.22 7 15 Jörg van Ommen Zakspeed AMG-Mercedes C-Klasse 34 49:48.17 4 1:15.28 8 3 Roland Asch AMG AMG-Mercedes C-Klasse 34 49:48.80 5 1:15.48 9 4 Bernd Schneider AMG AMG-Mercedes C-Klasse 34 50:01.56 3 1:15.14 10 6 Keke Rosberg Joest Racing Opel Calibra V6 33 9 1:16.05 11 8 Ellen Lohr AMG AMG-Mercedes C-Klasse 33 16 1:16.45 12 19 Uwe Alzen Persson Motorsport AMG-Mercedes 190E 33 19 1:19.15 13 17 John Winter Joest Racing Opel Calibra V6 33 14 1:19.97 14 20 Marc Gindorf Persson Motorsport AMG-Mercedes 190E 32 18 1:18.94 15 30 Gianni Giudici Scuderia Giudici Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI 32 21 1:19.90 16 24 Stig Amthor DTM Junior Team AMG-Mercedes 190E 32 22 1:20.23 17 39 Georg Severich WS DHL Team BMW E36 31 27 R 23 Jürgen Ruch Ruch Motorsport Ford Mustang GT 27 23 1:21.35 R 27 Michael Bartels Schübel Engineering Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI 24 17 1:17.79 R 7 Klaus Ludwig AMG AMG-Mercedes C-Klasse 19 7 1:15.75 R 21 Sandy Grau DTM Junior Team AMG-Mercedes 190E 13 13 1:19.62 R 22 Gerd Ruch Ruch Motorsport Ford Mustang GT 12 20 1:19.78 R 31 Armin Bernhard BAS Auto Technik Mercedes 190E 2.5-16 Evo2 8 26 R 2 Alessandro Nannini Alfa Corse Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI 7 6 1:15.73 R 14 Kurt Thiim Zakspeed AMG-Mercedes C-Klasse 5 15 R 13 Jürgen Feucht Ford Mustang GT 0 24 1:22.98 DNS 44 Rüdiger Seyffarth WS DHL Team BMW E36 0 25 1:30.15
Race 2
Pos No Driver Team Car Laps Time Comment F.Lap --- -- ------------------ ------------------- ------------------------- ---- -------- ---------------------------- ------- 1 1 Nicola Larini Alfa Corse Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI 34 48:48.23 2 10 Stefano Modena Alfa Corse Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI 34 49:05.90 DQ 18 Kris Nissen Schübel Engineering Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI 33 Too little fuel left in tank 3 5 Manuel Reuter Joest Racing Opel Calibra V6 33 1:19.76 4 7 Klaus Ludwig AMG AMG-Mercedes C-Klasse 33 5 4 Bernd Schneider AMG AMG-Mercedes C-Klasse 33 6 17 John Winter Joest Racing Opel Calibra V6 33 7 3 Roland Asch AMG AMG-Mercedes C-Klasse 33 8 19 Uwe Alzen Persson Motorsport AMG-Mercedes 190E 33 9 8 Ellen Lohr AMG AMG-Mercedes C-Klasse 33 10 24 Stig Amthor DTM Junior Team AMG-Mercedes 190E 32 11 20 Marc Gindorf Persson Motorsport AMG-Mercedes 190E 32 12 2 Alessandro Nannini Alfa Corse Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI 31 DQ 11 Christian Danner Schübel Engineering Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI 30 Fuel R 23 Jürgen Ruch Ruch Motorsport Ford Mustang GT 29 R 39 Georg Severich WS DHL Team BMW E36 28 R 21 Sandy Grau DTM Junior Team AMG-Mercedes 190E 18 R 15 Jörg van Ommen Zakspeed AMG-Mercedes C-Klasse 14 R 14 Kurt Thiim Zakspeed AMG-Mercedes C-Klasse 12 R 30 Gianni Giudici Scuderia Giudici Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI 11 R 22 Gerd Ruch Ruch Motorsport Ford Mustang GT 5 R 6 Keke Rosberg Joest Racing Opel Calibra V6 2 DNS 12 Giorgio Francia Schübel Engineering Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI 0 DNS 27 Michael Bartels Schübel Engineering Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI 0 DNS 31 Armin Bernhard BAS Auto Technik Mercedes 190E 2.5-16 Evo2 0 DNS 13 Jürgen Feucht Ford Mustang GT 0 DNS 44 Rüdiger Seyffarth WS DHL Team BMW E36 0
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Posted 08 January 2006 - 12:36
Ive often wondered if we didnt have Formula 1, or that Formula 1 wasnt what it is; if a world championship of ITC style would be even bigger than F1. The rules would be a nightmare to keep all those mfgs happy, but wouldnt BMW be happier plunking down 250mil a year on a race car that actually has the BMW grill design on its front?
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subh
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Posted 08 January 2006 - 14:06
Great - thanks very much for this!
