1983/84 Ecurie Ecosse Chevron S2000; a B52 or B54 ?
#1
Posted 13 October 2005 - 14:31
In his EE book, Graham Gauld doesn't mention the exact type of the car, nor its detailed racing records at Ingliston (and maybe other places ?) during its two-year campaign with the Scottish team. Can anyone help me on these matters ?
And since a Google search didn't help me very much about the Chevron Sports 2000 question, does someone know how many S2000 chassis of each type had been manufactured by Chevron Cars in the 80s ?
Needless to say that photos of the EE example would be fully apreciated. The only one I have found on the web being here and of poor quality : [URL=http://photos.freeserve.com/public/detail.html?c_album=14010[/URL]
Thank you all in advance,
Philippe
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#2
Posted 13 October 2005 - 17:03
This is an excellent site full of images from Ingliston in the late 70s- early 80s
the car is refered to here as a B54
elsewhere on this site I seem to recall seeing a photo of a special saloon calld 'the chimp' a Chevron chassis with an Imp body...............
#3
Posted 13 October 2005 - 17:33
This is the photo I was speaking about. Thank you anayway.
Graham Gauld has just sent me several personal e-mails, and at the end he confirms the EE Chevron was the first production B54.
Still according to Graham, the personal or "works" entered car of Laurence Jacobsen, also visible somowhere among the Ingliston pics, was in fact a B52, which became later the prototype or the development chassis for the B54. So Jacobsen's car in its final form should be called in my opinion a B52/54.
Is there a S2000 Chevrons production list somewhere ?
#4
Posted 13 October 2005 - 18:21
Spurred on by that website, and in a fit of nostalgia I just went looking for a davrian imp - there's one on EBAY at the moment- ex Ingliston- as well!
When will there be a revival in racing for these cars? the next big thing perhaps?
#5
Posted 13 October 2005 - 19:25
It was Jonathan Buncombe who built the "chimp" in 1975 for the SuperSaloon series, using a B19 as the base.
But it was back in B19 spec with Vin Malkie in the late 1970s I thought, so I think Jacobsen's was another Imp-bodied device?
#6
Posted 13 October 2005 - 19:38
photos.wanadoo.co.uk/shared/photo.html?c_album=13787&photo=164544&page=&group=
#7
Posted 13 October 2005 - 19:42
http://http://photos...44&page=&group=
#8
Posted 13 October 2005 - 19:53
That's not THE "chimp" i.e. the Buncombe car, which had an Imp saloon body.
Sorry to muddy the waters, didn't know that some folks referred to Chevron-based Imp GT cars generally as "chimps". I thought the term was reserved for the original !
#9
Posted 17 October 2005 - 12:24
On Chevron S2000s, from memory the most produced were the first ones, B52s. At a guess 6 or 7, the original in late 1980, and then some more in 1981. A couple raced down here, most up in Scotland where they had a category within another series IIRC. The '82 car was the B54, I suspect no more than 2 or 3 made, the final 'pure' S2000 was the B60 in 1983. Plygrange had 2 of these in the UK, I don't recall others down here.
I suppose some may have gone to the US though, trading on memories of past 2-litre Chevrons. By the early 80s the category was starting to struggle in Britain, tho' it was boosted to a degree by Thundersports in 83-86. From memory a couple of 2000 Chevrons were uprated with bigger motors to race in this series, Mazdas and BDGs I think.
#10
Posted 17 October 2005 - 12:45
I'm not sure that Jonathan Buncombe actually built the thing, did he?... but he certainly drove it. I witnessed him him inflicting a rare defeat on Gerry Marshall and Baby Bertha at Silverstone on the practice day for the 1976 6-hour race; a fabulously tense and entertaining race. On my desk in front of me is a snapshop of it at that meeting alongside a "Tony Wadsworth Racing" truck, from which it was run at that event.
When I get a moment I'll scan it (if anyone's interested). From memory, it had an FVC motor, but I don't recall the exact chassis type at the moment: was it a B21?
(I'd never heard Chimp used in connection with any other car.)
Ah, apologies Jeremy - you already referred to it as a B19; I had a reference to it as a B19 too - but that reference was my own and wasn't trusting it for some reason!
#11
Posted 17 October 2005 - 12:49
#12
Posted 17 October 2005 - 20:22
It seems that several Chevron B60s and B61s were entered in the Thundersports series. And wasn't one of the B60s, called B60TS and property of Laurence Jacobsen, which was running with a B36-style bodywork ?
#13
Posted 17 October 2005 - 20:42
#15
Posted 18 October 2005 - 17:22
I have made further researches about the Chevron S2000s and I wonder if the B52-type wasn't in fact a one-off.
I misunderstood when I assumed that Laurence Jacobsen's car deserved to be called B52/54 as it was the prototype for the production B54. It was the first S2000 built by Chevron Cars in their Scottish days, with a bodywork clearly inspired from the B19/B21 design and was called the B52. B52 and no more. End of the first chapter.
One year or so later, in 1982, the cars they built for customer purposes, with a completely different bodywork, gained the B54 designation. End of the second chapter.
In 1983, the B54 design received further improvements and became the B60 for S2000 purposes or B61 for pukka ThunderSports purposes. And I do believe, Graham, that Jacobsen's car, seen dicing at Ingliston with the EE B54, on a picture from your Ecurie Ecosse book (page 126), is a B61, running under the orange colours of Iain Mcleod Engineering.
As far as the original B52 is concerned, I think that it found its way to Sweden in the 90s for racing in the REAB Sportscar Cup, in the hands of a certain Bo Sherman.
Best regards,
Philippe
#16
Posted 19 October 2005 - 12:31
It appeared in August 1980 as the B52, and was subsequently produced into 1981. A 'works' car was run in the 81 S2000 series over here, driven variously by Bryce Wilson, Robin S, Lawrence Jacobson. A few others were sold, a couple to Scotland, Brian Stevenson had 1. The B54, a slightly modded car appeared in 82, and the B60 the next year. I can't recall who had B54s, but at least 2 B60s were used down here by the Plygrange Team, Richard Morgan and Ken Gough.
So I reckon the S2000s followed a distinct line, and the T'Sports cars were various one-offs based around the former.
#17
Posted 19 October 2005 - 17:09
#18
Posted 19 October 2005 - 18:57
- Laurence Jacobsen B52 (1981, Ingliston) :
http://photos.wanado...9&page=1&group=
- Bo Sherman's B52 (1997, Anderstorp ?) :
http://www2.reab.se/...bscup/car31.jpg
- Laurence Jacobsen / John Fyda B61 (1984, Oulton Park) :
http://www.racingspo...4-04-20-090.jpg
Dan, when you say the B54 is a slightly modded B52, I think I'm not terribly wrong if I reply that the B52 and B54 (see EE car) bodyworks have not much in common.
#19
Posted 19 October 2005 - 19:16
Dan, when you say the B54 is a slightly modded B52, I think I'm not terribly wrong if I reply that the B52 and B54 (see EE car) bodyworks have not much in common.
Well, may be I'm going too fast... Only the front (more streamlined on the B54) and rear (with covered wheels) bonnets look different. But, yes, the frame looks similar on both B52 and B54 types.
Regarding the B61 design, I'm deducting from the photo it is this time a different frame coupled with a B54-style bodywork.