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#1 Zuzana97

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Posted 24 October 2005 - 16:10

Dear Community,

we are looking for help, to reconstruct the history of an Elva MkIII from 1957/1958? It has the Engine: Coventry/Climax FWA 400/6 7160, sold July 22th 1957 to Elva Cars.

We found SCCA TECHNICAL INSPECTION stickers before restauration. The 5th sticker: Connelsville, PA., 8/9/65. This is the only race we do have a prove for or a readable sticker, but no results or hints who was the driver. Unfortunately the SCCA has no records of that time. If we at least do know some drivers who raced Elva Mk III in the US, it might help.

Unfortuately also Frank Nicols had no records or was not able to help!

So it seems it has participated in SCCA Races in the USA and also has been sold to the USA.

If you know more about this car please help us. The car and the stickers can also been seen under the website: www.racecar-collection.com

Thank you for your help.

Oliver

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#2 David Birchall

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Posted 24 October 2005 - 19:45

You might try contacting Chuck Dietrich, he was the Elva man in the States in the fifties. I believe he is still alive and I last contacted him-a long time ago- at 419-626-1061. His mailing address then was 2055 Cleveland Road, Sandusky, Ohio 44870.
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#3 humphries

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Posted 24 October 2005 - 21:58

Oliver

The 1965 Northeast Divsional Championship points score (which included the Connelsville race), lists six Elva drivers in the GM class. Gordon Heald (Mk7) divisional winner with 45 pts, Warren Shamlian (Mk7) 5th position with 13 pts and Marvin Cohen (Mk7) 7th with 10 pts plus three Elva drivers with no Mk numbering. These were Jack Lawrence 4th 18 pts, S.A.Gilliland 6th 11 pts and finally Jack Bebee, from the Washington region, in an Elva Special just 2pts for 15th position.

The Mk3 Elva would be a little off the pace in 1965 and possibly Bebee's car might be a Mk3 with some home improvements.

In 1964 NE GM Elvas were Gordon Heald (Mk7), Sam Gilliland (Mk6), E.A. (Edwin) Arnold (unspec) and Edward Diamond of the Finger Lakes region with a MkIII.

In 1963 NE GM Elvas were Gordon Heald (Mk7), David Fenton, Ed Stanley and Charles Kruger from the Finger Lakes region - all unspecified, but Kruger's possibly a Mk6 as he had won GM in 1962.

Hope this information might give a lead.

John

#4 ggnagy

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 12:52

Originally posted by humphries
Oliver

The 1965 Northeast Divsional Championship points score (which included the Connelsville race), lists six Elva drivers in the GM class. Gordon Heald (Mk7) divisional winner with 45 pts, Warren Shamlian (Mk7) 5th position with 13 pts and Marvin Cohen (Mk7) 7th with 10 pts plus three Elva drivers with no Mk numbering. These were Jack Lawrence 4th 18 pts, S.A.Gilliland 6th 11 pts and finally Jack Bebee, from the Washington region, in an Elva Special just 2pts for 15th position.

The Mk3 Elva would be a little off the pace in 1965 and possibly Bebee's car might be a Mk3 with some home improvements.

In 1964 NE GM Elvas were Gordon Heald (Mk7), Sam Gilliland (Mk6), E.A. (Edwin) Arnold (unspec) and Edward Diamond of the Finger Lakes region with a MkIII.

In 1963 NE GM Elvas were Gordon Heald (Mk7), David Fenton, Ed Stanley and Charles Kruger from the Finger Lakes region - all unspecified, but Kruger's possibly a Mk6 as he had won GM in 1962.

Hope this information might give a lead.

John


Ed Arnolds car was a Mk III in 64, at least at the VIR national.
1964 VIR SCCA National pictures

Dave Roethel, longtime DC region member and club historian, was racing an elva in 65, unfortunately, he recently passsed away. :(

#5 JRL

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Posted 25 October 2005 - 19:53

Jack Lawrence ( ex Don Wolfe) and David Fenton (ex Gord Heald )were driving Mk 6 s in 1963

John

#6 Zuzana97

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Posted 16 October 2006 - 20:47

Dear Members, thank you for your help.

unfortunately we did not get further to clear the history of the litle Elva. Does anyone have pictures from Mr. Dave Roethels Elva? or where can I find race results or pictures from the SCCA Connelsville race in 1965. For pictures of the Elva please do see www.racecar-collection.com

With best regards

oliver

#7 elvaMKII

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Posted 28 February 2007 - 03:12

For any of you who have followed this thread please note that I am also searching for history of a 1957 MK II Elva. See this site for some info and let me know if you have some leads for me:

http://www.tamsoldra...aIIMystery.html

#8 elvaMKII

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Posted 22 September 2007 - 00:59

Oliver,

We will be honoring Elva MK II and Elva MK III cars at the SVRA vintage races next March 12-15 at Sebring. There will be entry forms at www.svra.com soon and also more information at www.elva.com/

All Elvas are invited. Overseas cars will be given free entry. There are races before and after this event around the South USA you could also enter.

Email me for more information at bobengberg@aim.com/

Bob