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[aerogi]

Here are two very quick drawings, we have seen the 'viking' wings on the Mc Laren last year, various midwings too, and I wonder what the rules are regarding 'wings' on the cowlings, so maybe they will come up with a thing like this to cover the downforce that is 'lost' because of the proposed new rules for the rear wing... unless the FIA somehow states that the whole of that part of the car cannot have any wings or whatever...





Not the best drawings, but you get the idea... And I don't think this will make the car look better either...

[Ross Stonefeld]

The first one has been used a few times, but in a much smaller version, usually at Monaco.

http://gallery.autos...o.php/id/18822/

The second one looks like too steep an angle to be much use, would cause lots of drag?

[Double Apex]

If there is an advantage to be had, someone will think of it, and if it is allowed, teams will use it.
In fact, desingers are probably working out right now how they could react to the new rear wing idea should it be implemented, and that might very well include various bits and pieces surrounding the engine cowlings.

And if it then turns out to nullify the goal the FIA has with the new rear wing, the FIA will ban it.;)

[FNG]

I believe McLaren had a very large and ugly version on their 1995 or 1996 car, not sure which but it was an ugly and slow car.

[VresiBerba]

Originally posted by Ross Stonefeld
The first one has been used a few times, but in a much smaller version, usually at Monaco.

http://gallery.autos...o.php/id/18822/

The second one looks like too steep an angle to be much use, would cause lots of drag?

I think aerogi's point was that if the CDG wing get's approved, there's a risk of having excessive protrusions on the airbox compensating for the loss of downforce and to ruin airflow for following cars.

Of course, this would have to be remedied in the regulations if the design gets a thumbs up.

[aerogi]

Yes that's my point. The FIA can come up with these weird looking things, so that overtaking will not be rarity anymore, but I wonder how long it will take before the engineers will find loopholes again. I always thought that it was especially all the little winglets etc that controlled the airflow to the wings made it difficult to overtake...

I mean, in the 80s there have been 'huge' wings too? And there was lots of overtaking. So... would'n' it be better to 'delete' all of these little wingies, midwings, engine cowling wings etc?

[Al.]

Originally posted by FNG
I believe McLaren had a very large and ugly version on their 1995 or 1996 car, not sure which but it was an ugly and slow car.

Something close although it was I believe to speed up the air into the airbox which all had holes in the back of them to cut power.

Mansel McLaren 1995

And yes, vey ugly.

[Ceejay]

That Mclaren was the 1995 MP4-10, designed pre Adrian Newey and believed to be Ron’s first attempt at F1 design.