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#1 windsok

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Posted 01 November 2005 - 13:45

Amazon.co.uk lists two different F1 2005 DVD's

http://www.amazon.co...6666054-2726867
Formula 1 2005 Review
Price: £14.99
Studio: Duke Marketing Ltd
DVD Release Date: November 28, 2005

http://www.amazon.co...6666054-2726867
FIA Formula One World Championship 2005
Price: £11.99
Studio: Sony Pictures Home Ent. UK
DVD Release Date: January 9, 2006

I presume the one released by Duke is the standard "Official FIA Review" that we have been getting for years, but whats the one being released by sony?

anyway, I will be sure to have the Duke one in my Xmas sack :up:

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#2 SeanValen

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Posted 01 November 2005 - 13:46

One thing I hate about Duke, always more expensive then dvd chart films.

There should be some custom made reviews for any fan, say you want this onboard view of a drivers pole position, give it to them, there's so much material out there.


I would have a website for custom based reviews with access to all of bernie's footage, fans place a order, wanting these shots from these races, stuff like that.

#3 Al.

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Posted 01 November 2005 - 13:50

Originally posted by SeanValen
One thing I hate about Duke, always more expensive then dvd chart films.


They probably have to pay Bernie more for the footage than the average 'Hollywood' Blockbuster costs to produce.

#4 windsok

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Posted 01 November 2005 - 13:52

Seems that Sony UK also released the 2000 Season Review - http://www.sonypictu...VDCDR33053.html

So perhaps the Sony release will be exactly the same, but an official UK R2 release, while the Duke release is a worldwide R0. My guess anyway.

#5 Tomecek

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Posted 01 November 2005 - 13:52

I so much wish to be as good as 2001 Review, which I lost because my ****ing VHS player damaged the tape :mad: :)

#6 SeanValen

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Posted 01 November 2005 - 13:54

Originally posted by Al.


They probably have to pay Bernie more for the footage than the average 'Hollywood' Blockbuster costs to produce.


I was thinking about that, even for the money, they could make another dvd on onboard views for the whole season, using poles, incidents, crashes, so much material, a 2005 review should be a 3 or 4 disk set, price it around 20-25-or even 30 pounds, it'll be worth the extra cost, the abbreviated 2005 review is someone elses highlights of the 2005 season.

But I'll probabley still get it. :smoking:

#7 Tomecek

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Posted 01 November 2005 - 13:55

And also Duke used to have DVD's available for Christmas in last two years...

#8 Slyder

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Posted 01 November 2005 - 19:50

So which one is worth buying?

One would say the FOM video since, its from FOM, but what would the Sony video have in stock?

#9 WACKO

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Posted 02 November 2005 - 08:36

IMO the FOM reviews are very good. One year is better than the other, but coverage is good and complete. There's just two things I hope they'll hold on to: don't make it longer than 150 min. max. and no tourist information on the venues like in the 2002 video.

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Posted 02 November 2005 - 09:01

Originally posted by SeanValen
One thing I hate about Duke, always more expensive then dvd chart films.


Specialist market Sean. Obtaining the footage is expensive to start and with a limited customer base, harder to make it worthwhile. The thing that gets me about Duke stuff is the production quality varies from home video to broadcast standard.

Sony gave their reviews away with the PS2 game in '01 & '02 and sold them seperately for those without a PS2.

#11 philhitchings

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Posted 02 November 2005 - 09:03

Windsok; wasn't that one part of the tie in with the Playstation game?? maybe that means that the PS2 F1 2006 will have the 2005 review boxed with it. I might wait and save some money

#12 windsok

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Posted 02 November 2005 - 10:06

Yeah the 2000 and 2001 DVD reviews were originally released with playstation games, the 2000 review was later released separately, I dont think the 2001 review has ever been released separately.

2002 has never been released on DVD as far as I know.

#13 Tomecek

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Posted 10 November 2005 - 10:41

I just got Duke's Powersport Entertainment News 2006. They are already promoting 2005's DVD but what is more interesting they are offering set of 10 DVD's (1970-1979) plus 1980 is extra and free of charge.

150 pounds.

I am just interested if they will continue by decades up to end of 20th century? :)

#14 philhitchings

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Posted 10 November 2005 - 10:45

I'm just interested to see if Duke will always overprice their DVD's :rolleyes:

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Posted 10 November 2005 - 10:53

Originally posted by Tomecek
I just got Duke's Powersport Entertainment News 2006. They are already promoting 2005's DVD but what is more interesting they are offering set of 10 DVD's (1970-1979) plus 1980 is extra and free of charge.

150 pounds.

I am just interested if they will continue by decades up to end of 20th century? :)

That was on sale at HMV for under £100 a little while ago...

Frankly, I just don;t get this fixed price single DVd stuff either.

Bernie has a website all his own, and a TV production facility to call upon in order to allow fans to pop along to a website and download all the bits that they want to download.

Imagine buying a basic DVD - maybe at £10 or thereabouts. This has links to ALL the material for 2005 on it which you can follow and download iTunes stylee at an extra fee.

Not only would Bernie capture all the loonys here who would probably stop at nothing less than the full set, but he would also have a better income stream which is better controlled by him directly.

And the fans get exactly what they want.

#16 Tomecek

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Posted 10 November 2005 - 11:19

Originally posted by philhitchings
I'm just interested to see if Duke will always overprice their DVD's :rolleyes:

Yeah I agree but I think DVD's are generally toooo much expensive. I simply don't see appropriate to buy the movie for 20 euros.

#17 windsok

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Posted 10 November 2005 - 14:17

Originally posted by Tomecek
I just got Duke's Powersport Entertainment News 2006. They are already promoting 2005's DVD but what is more interesting they are offering set of 10 DVD's (1970-1979) plus 1980 is extra and free of charge.

150 pounds.

I am just interested if they will continue by decades up to end of 20th century? :)


Those 1970 to 1980 DVD's are the Brunswick reviews. 1980 was the last one they did, I think that starting in 1981 there were only official FOCA/FIA reviews? So no doubt they would have to licence it from Bernie. I dont think that Bernie owns the rights to the Brunswick Reviews.

Incidently, I emailed Duke recently asking if there was any plans to put 80's and 90's reviews onto dvd, and here is what they had to say:

Thank you for your enquiry.

We are constantly trying to secure deals to put back catalogue F1 Reviews onto DVD, unfortunately, it is a lengthy process as you will appreciate, all down to money and copyrights, hence I cannot give you a definite answer regarding dates. All I can suggest is that you keep an eye on our website for any further updates, but there is nothing in the pipeline at the minute.

Very sorry it wasn't better news..


Sounds to me like Bernie wants too much money :

#18 philhitchings

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Posted 10 November 2005 - 14:44

IIRC doesn't the Australian Broadcasting Commision own the rights to the 1980 review? and that is why it took so long for it to become available on any format

#19 windsok

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Posted 10 November 2005 - 18:13

Originally posted by philhitchings
IIRC doesn't the Australian Broadcasting Commision own the rights to the 1980 review? and that is why it took so long for it to become available on any format


Dont really see why they would, Maybe ABC were the only ones with a decent quality print of the film in their archives? According the Amazon the 1980 review was released on dvd around the same time as all the other Brunswick ones.

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Posted 10 November 2005 - 18:52

A bit off topic....

Does anyone know where I can find 1994, 1995 and 1998 season in review?
(VHS , NTSC format (US and Canada only.)

#21 philhitchings

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Posted 11 November 2005 - 11:07

check your PM ;)

#22 windsok

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Posted 28 November 2005 - 09:47

Just a reminder that the 2005 FIA Formula1 Review DVD was released today in Europe.

HMV has it for £13.99 at their online store.

Should be released next week in Australia.

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Posted 28 November 2005 - 20:09

Bought the review today and had a decent flick through it.

The first thing to catch my eye this morning was the title - Fantastic Fernando! It's always interesting to see what they title these end of year reviews. Anyway, looking at the back cover and it's the usual blah blah blah, running time 220 minutes........

220?! Cool, it was only advertised for 170 mins on the websites.

First thing to strike me when i played it was the opening menu being the same style as last year, only with an updated background If you were'nt looking carefully you'd think you'd put the '04 review in the player by accident.

So onto the main programme itself. Ben Edwards is again the commentator, for the fourth straight year in a row, and so he's now done more of these official review gigs than anyone else (himself and Clive James had both done three each, 02 to 04, and 82, 84, 86 respectively) and with so much time to play with, to say the least it's pretty comprehensive. Now all of the main action and local bits of camerawork i'd seen before throughout the year, but there were still some excellent additions that have been withheld until now....

Standout moments previously unseen were the 4 car shunt on the Saturday morning of Monaco at the massenet, as we watch JVs on board of the incident. I'll spare you my take on it looking from his car, and you can judge for yourself how much warning he had. The other stuff that left it's mark on me were the pitwall shots that we had'nt seen before. Flavio's reaction to Alonso holding off Michael at Imola is a brilliant piece of footage, also Ron Dennis & Ross Brawn provide plenty of entertainment showing their emotions right in the heat of battle.

There's a few nice little off-track features along the way, mainly centered around Red Bull. The energy station gets a once over, and there's a clever short star wars piece in the lead-up to Monaco.

One thing that disappointed me ever-so-slightly about the main programme was how Indianapolis was handled. I was thinking beforehand that they might really go to town on that whole Friday into Saturday, Saturday night into Sunday episode, but no.. Friday and Saturday seemed to be done quickfire, although Edwards takes us through a good description of the last hour before the start. His WTF reaction to the field coming in however, is the one blot on his superb commentary through the whole thing, most likely a scripting issue though. If you'll recall most of the watching world knew with a few minutes to go (at the very latest) that these guys were gonna pull in. Indeed the shock at the start of the formation lap, would have been if the Michelin runners had gone to the grid. Thinking a little more about it, i'd say the Indianapolis part of the review is more political and glossing over the deep issues of the weekend than anything else. I'd be very interested to see what others think on this......

Aside from that, the main programme on the whole is brilliant, a really good, comprehensive account of the year, with good commentary, the pick of the camerawork, and some cracking unseen interviews as well, with a few musical background pieces thrown in. It's done pretty much the same way as 2004 was. 187 mins for the review.

I can hear you all saying yeah, yeah, yeah...enough with the bullshit, what about the extras!!!?

Again i found the extras menu almost hidden, like they don't want you to see it. From the main menu at the start of the disc hit the sub-menu to reveal it. Again, menu is the same as the 2004 review. It's a load of markers with an onboard lap from each circuit thrown in. The OB lap is commentated this year by the driver of that car, and it's not necessarily the pole lap either, witness Sato talking us round a lap of Suzuka during that wet weekend. Not having all the pole laps was a slight disappointment, they should come as standard. As i said, the rest are markers so you can choose to watch the intro to the event, race highlights or the classification onwards - just like last year. Reckon on 38 mins or thereabouts for the On-board lap extras. So there we are, running time 225 mins, pretty impressive.

Overall it's a good DVD and well worth getting just for the story of the season. FOM have done a good job with it save for Indy, but the rest of it just has this scent of "have'nt we been here before" about it.

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Posted 28 November 2005 - 22:44

Great overview there Sir Nigel, most valuable our potential buyers at atlas will find.
:up: :smoking:

#25 windsok

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Posted 02 December 2005 - 13:48

Just noticed Duke Australia have the DVD on their site for preorder, with a tentitive release date of 16 December - http://dukevideo.com...ct.asp?P_ID=561

They are also offering any of the following dvd's for free, when you order any duke dvd:

* 2003 F1 Review DVD - Free with any purchase
* 2004 Moto GP Review - Free with any purchase
* BEST BIKE GP'S OF THE DECADE - Free with any purchase
* WORLD’S FASTEST CARS - Free with any purchase

http://dukevideo.com...PageHistory=cat

Nice deal!

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Posted 02 December 2005 - 14:31

I already bought it from amazon.co.uk, it's a very good review I must say! Also another positive (for whoever considers it a positive anyway!;) ) it's that there are far less Ferrari and MS shots in this review which is understandable of course as they were hardly the team to watch this season! Also this irritating face of MS's at last disappeared from the DVD coverlet! :)
The only negative side in my opinion is the absence of shots and a short review of the teams car launches, something that older reviews had it! :(

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Posted 05 December 2005 - 06:44

Cheers, just ordered 2005, 2004, 2003 and 1980 from Dukevideo.com.au. Any idea anyway I can grab 2002? Can't seem to find it on Amazon.co.uk

#28 mark f1

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Posted 05 December 2005 - 07:35

2002 never came out on DVD, only Video.

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#29 Thanh Ha

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Posted 05 December 2005 - 08:17

Oh that sucks.

Thanks Mark

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Posted 05 December 2005 - 09:05

Originally posted by Cittànuova
A bit off topic....

Does anyone know where I can find 1994, 1995 and 1998 season in review?
(VHS , NTSC format (US and Canada only.)


http://stores.ebay.com/F1-Super-Store

#31 Kjetil

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Posted 05 December 2005 - 11:14

I just wonder why they have to add a stupid sound-effect when a car crash.

#32 WACKO

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Posted 07 December 2005 - 21:31

Just finished watching it tonight after receiving it at the beginning of the week. I have to say :up: :up: As good as you can wish for, I think. It's a good review, capturing all the action. Not too long, not too short. Commentating is OK, despite indeed some annoying 'Oww what's that's'
But overall I think Ben Edwards is a good man for the job. Funny are some of the onboard laps commentated by the drivers. Nice add-on. I would have preferred the pole laps, but I guess the producers didn't want to make us listen to Kimi's usually vivid remarks on each of his pole laps. ;)

Overall a DVD by F1's standards (Read: in terms of DVD coverage ;) ) You won't be disappointed by it.

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Posted 08 December 2005 - 09:12

The Duke DVDs are generally good but what I can't stand is the asinine commentary... it's just shockingly bad.

Some of the earlier videos have better commentators - '82/4/6 have Clive James who's not to everyone's taste but I quite like. The '93 one with Johnathon Ross is good.

But has anyone got the 1983 video? That has got to be the worst commentary I've ever hear on anything, ever.

#34 philhitchings

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Posted 08 December 2005 - 09:16

Is that the one with that stupid woman? I've not watched my copy for ages

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Posted 08 December 2005 - 10:31

Originally posted by philhitchings
Is that the one with that stupid woman? I've not watched my copy for ages


Yeah - Barbara Rosenblat and Brian Kriesky. I understand some people who've seen it have since formed a self-help group...

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Posted 08 December 2005 - 13:31

Originally posted by F1Fanatic.co.uk


Yeah - Barbara Rosenblat and Brian Kriesky. I understand some people who've seen it have since formed a self-help group...


I know. You wouldn't mind but 1983 is a great season but the only record of it is unwatchable due to that pair. How the hell did BE, after a winning season for his driver, let those two eejits near the microphone?



For those of you who have been spared this aural assault - think Fran Drescher's nasal Noo Yoik accent doing the commentary.

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Posted 08 December 2005 - 14:16

Originally posted by FredF1


I know. You wouldn't mind but 1983 is a great season but the only record of it is unwatchable due to that pair. How the hell did BE, after a winning season for his driver, let those two eejits near the microphone?



For those of you who have been spared this aural assault - think Fran Drescher's nasal Noo Yoik accent doing the commentary.


that one was really horrible - I hate that woman.
if you haven't watched it and don't believe how bad it is, get a copy - you won't be disappointed about how bad it is.

#38 WACKO

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Posted 08 December 2005 - 14:25

With current dvd technology it should be possible to divide the commentating audio from the racing sounds and be able to watch it without. I hope that's what the future will bring for TV too.

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Posted 08 December 2005 - 14:45

89 wasn't bad. I remember Tony Jardine and someone else did commentary and it was fairly good I thought.

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Posted 08 December 2005 - 15:08

Jardine is good - although he had a tendency to put on other people's accents at times (posh British, Australian) especially in the 1988 video if I remeber correctly, which was really embarassing...

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Posted 08 December 2005 - 16:12

That's the one. Ol' Jardine must be a frustrated comedian.

I really like the 1988 through 1991 ones - oodles of content and between 2-3 hours in length. I have from 1981 through 1993 but am wary of the later ones due to the reported bad quality, lousy commentary and poor content.


One of my favourite bits of the annual reviews is up and coming drivers getting the "He's a future champion" routine when it somehow never came together for them. It's nice to be able to get a feel for the opinion of the time.

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Posted 08 December 2005 - 17:03

Yeah - especially Modena and Alesi in 1991. And how long did Modena last? (In more ways than one...)

#43 philhitchings

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Posted 08 December 2005 - 20:51

having said all this, unless your are nigel red 5 or one of his regualr customers, for most of us this is all we've got. Often I turn the sound down anyway and just watch, yeah it's a bit strange but seeing the cars go round and round on my wide screen TV still look cool

#44 FredF1

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Posted 09 December 2005 - 10:04

Maybe so Phil - but you still have to endure those awful 1980's "Look mum, I've got a video editing suite!" style effects.

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Posted 09 December 2005 - 10:09

I know but nothings perfect, not even me :lol: