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[le chat noir]

AABB members in the pub watching the F1 - what could be better.

Following Bumper's instigation of something that should become tradition last year I'm hoping to drum up more interest this year. (I must admit that I did not attend last year, but am very keen to this season, living just down the road).

For those not in the know, its an Australian pub that is one of the few to consistently show F1 races. It can be found at:

Address: corner Wilton Road/Gillingham Street, SW1V 1HP. Tube: Victoria station, serviced by Victoria and District/Circle lines. Directions: take Wilton Road exit, turn right going up Wilton Road, after about 150 yards you'll see the pub on the right hand side.

Map: http://www.streetmap...=178823&A=Y&Z=1

I've never actually been there I must say, so can an old attendee or Bumper himself can confirm that this will be taking place again this year (I'll go myself and ask as soon as I have a minute post and edit this, but until then...)

It would be good to here in the upcoming week if you'd like to do it, and from those there last year.

Best,

lcn

[SeanValen]

Hi,did you post in the old thread last year? Because I'll be damned, if you lived down the road, and never came in 2005, we needed more le chat noir last year, there should be charges made against you, atlas pub meet crimes.

From the old thread:


http://forums.autosp...y=&pagenumber=7



Us three were consistent regulars, be nice to have you as consistent regular, as once no one showed up, except three of us, Bumper, me and Radz, the low turn out record, we can't have a repeat of that.



Common regulars last year:
Bumper
Me, Sean
Radz-
Al-missed a few, but he intended most

The Atlas part time crew:
Cathexist-on and off he was, more of a atlas reader then poster
Jon Pollock-on and off
Ross Stonefeld-came to one
Jackman: Another special guest appearance from a atlas legend, he's a legendary boozer, James Bond journalist, travels the world, we'll be lucky to get him to come again


We got some more as well who attended, but there atlas readers, not posters, hopefully they'll see this thread, and come back knocking.

There's another atlas London forumer I know here, doesn't post much, but I'll be trying to get them in.


Special guest appearances last year at the Camel
Philhitchelings
Sith


Always can get some forumer flying in from another place.

[le chat noir]

I must admit I did post. Maybe I promised my presence.
I'm very unreliable it must be said. But by being the thread starter I've kind of commited myself now, haven't I? I guess you could see le chat noir disappear and il gatto nero begin posting but that would be a new low!!

I think those that are Middlesex based should make the effort too. You know who you are.

[SeanValen]

Originally posted by le chat noir
I must admit I did post. Maybe I promised my presence.
I'm very unreliable it must be said. But by being the thread starter I've kind of commited myself now, haven't I? I guess you could see le chat noir disappear and il gatto nero begin posting but that would be a new low!!

I think those that are Middlesex based should make the effort too. You know who you are.

Well, behrain, sepang, albert park, too early times for a meet I think, we'll have to start with the Euro season, IMOLA, unless there's other suggestions, ideas, interests from people.

[le chat noir]

Originally posted by SeanValen


Well, behrain, sepang, albert park, too early times for a meet I think, we'll have to start with the Euro season, IMOLA, unless there's other suggestions, ideas, interests from people.

No, no, no, no, no.
The pub'll be open won't it? What time is the race? 11am, 12?

It just allows for more (drinking) time to mull over the coming season. Would you rather be typing away here or sat with the same people, beer in hand?

And at what point will the action be ripest for drunken conjecture?
You know it makes sense!

[SeanValen]

Originally posted by le chat noir


No, no, no, no, no.
The pub'll be open won't it? What time is the race? 11am, 12?

It just allows for more (drinking) time to mull over the coming season. Would you rather be typing away here or sat with the same people, beer in hand?

And at what point will the action be ripest for drunken conjecture?
You know it makes sense!

Just remember you live down the road, I'm coming from East London, I won't be on atlas typing, but to wake up like 9:00am in the morning, get ready, get on a train on a sunday, it's over a hour a bit in the morning up there, go to the pub, it's long a haul for some, and I'll be late, I mean I don't wake up 9am on sundays, it's been a long time, I'm looking forward to sleeping and waking up, and going downstairs, to watch it on tv, I love a drink, but 10:30 in the morning, when coverage starts, much of a hassle, and right now, I'm job hunting, so I couldn't fork out the beer price right now, and travel cards have gone up in price, London is freakin expensive right now for me, all in all, I don't live down the road like you..


We never did do pub meets this early in the season last year, I very much doubt we'll get people for this early in the morning. I like to stay in and relax and watch the first 3 gps, there's plenty of pub meets coming up, it's like fine wine, we'll open up it up later.


I'll be available from Imola onwards. If I lived where you was, I'll be there, no hassle.

[kamix]

Could you guys explain the difference between an Aussie pub and a British one?

[Radz]

Originally posted by kamix
Could you guys explain the difference between an Aussie pub and a British one?

Well, essentially, the Aussie pubs:
(a) Serve Crown Lager
(b) Have lots of TV screens
© Show the Grand Prix races.

Typically, British pubs:
(a) Serve Fosters or Bitter
(b) Usually have one small TV somewhere
© Show the cricket.

Now, I'm generalising a bit, but in short The Elusive Camel at Victoria is a great place. On top of everything else, they do FANTASTIC Sunday lunches, so there's food, beer and GP racing. What more could a fan want? (Apart from a better season from Ferrari?)
As Sean says, last season was one of high promised attendance, but with low actual turn-outs. Let's see if we can't turn that around, eh?

And Le Chat Noir - if you really do live that close, then no excuses! Be great to get another 'regular' involved.

Now, where's Bumper?


Radz

[cathexist]

I'd echo Radz's comments- fantastic place, good food and (of course) great company. Last year they gave us our own little area with a big screen, and discounts on Crown lager too!

I'll be there on-and-off this year as Sundays are kinda busy for me at the moment. Looking good for Bahrain though.

[fifi]

if im ever in london on a f1 day (unlikely tbh ) i'll pop along
but dont hold your breath ;)

[Ross Stonefeld]

Malaysia is on at stupid-o-clock in the morning, so seems pub-pointless. However the Friday night is St Patrick's day, and as good an excuse as any.

Ill probably end up watching Bahrain at the gym due to the time of day.

[SeanValen]

Originally posted by cathexist
I'd echo Radz's comments- fantastic place, good food and (of course) great company. Last year they gave us our own little area with a big screen, and discounts on Crown lager too!

I'll be there on-and-off this year as Sundays are kinda busy for me at the moment. Looking good for Bahrain though.

Confirm Bahrain, given the tight number of people who could show up, we need a yes or no, are you IN, or OUT.

To quote Robert Deniro from HEAT, I need a driver "YES OR NO? RIGHT NOW."



If there was at least 4 sure members of atlas at Camel this Sunday, I'll make the effort to wake up early and get myself down there. But things happen at the last moment, could lose a sure member, so ideally need 6 people for sure, then if one drops out, it isn't too bad, so 6 is the number I say.

Le Chat Noir-seems a regular alll year now
Radz-waiting on others like me I think for turn out
Bumper-dunno yet

cathexist-50/50, which reminds me of the low turn outs of last year, we need loyality, you got enough money now cathexist from your current job? quit and relax, your young, drink more beer, take a year off , it could be MS's last year, live it up!!! Forget the pension, you wanna live forever. I'll buy you OMEGA watch when I win the lottery, MS ambassador class.

[zac510]

I have a decent TV at home now but I might pop in for another race one Sunday but it won't be Bahrain or Malaysia sorry.

Do any of you globetrotters know where I can see the Malaysian race in Paris? (apart from at the hostel)

[SeanValen]

Oh yeah I forgot to add Zac was a pretty consistent regular at times as well. Another name to add to the atlas camel collection bucket. Guess we won't see you until Imola then..


Enjoy your Paris holiday

[zac510]

Cheers - I'm going to see the Andros Trophy!

[Bumper]

I was gonna restart the original Camel thread on Monday but there you go, people are already inpatient which is a good sign!

Yes, I've arranged with The Camel that there will again be Camel F1 meetings this year (bar the early morning ones), hopefully we'll be able to greet a lot of new people.

The Bahrain race starts at 11.30am UK time with ITV coverage from 10.30. The pub opens at 11 am on Sundays so for the first race, as it will be on so early, I'm reserving the little seating area at the back rather than the big room.

Hope to see a lot of fans turning up this year, we've always had a great atmosphere going and we don't care what your allegiance is as long as we can take the piss out of everyone

Hope to see everyone on Sunday!

[le chat noir]

Originally posted by Bumper
I was gonna restart the original Camel thread on Monday but there you go, people are already inpatient which is a good sign!

Yes, I've arranged with The Camel that there will again be Camel F1 meetings this year (bar the early morning ones), hopefully we'll be able to greet a lot of new people.

The Bahrain race starts at 11.30am UK time with ITV coverage from 10.30. The pub opens at 11 am on Sundays so for the first race, as it will be on so early, I'm reserving the little seating area at the back rather than the big room.

Hope to see a lot of fans turning up this year, we've always had a great atmosphere going and we don't care what your allegiance is as long as we can take the piss out of everyone

Hope to see everyone on Sunday!

Thought it an idea to have the thread over the weekend - better to drum up interest. Not an intention to steal any kudos tho, and it helps motivate me to walk the 400yds I was too lazy for last year.

Good to know you've sorted arrangements. Would be good if it was Wi-fi'd so we could get sector times, and does anyone bring a radio to cover the adbreaks or remove the nauseating tones of JA?

So the little area at the back, that sounds easy to find. Tell me, do you spot AABB members when they enter - can you tell them from the crowd? Please say we blend in!!!

[Marcel Schot]

Originally posted by le chat noir
So the little area at the back, that sounds easy to find. Tell me, do you spot AABB members when they enter - can you tell them from the crowd?

No, but Sean will give you a call from about 10 feet away

As for me attending, not very likely. Maybe on the rare occurences I happen to be in the UK during a GP weekend.

[Radz]

Originally posted by le chat noir
...helps motivate me to walk the 400yds I was too lazy for last year....

400 yds??? Heck, if you don't turn up, we'll DRAG you 400yds!!

So the little area at the back, that sounds easy to find. Tell me, do you spot AABB members when they enter - can you tell them from the crowd? Please say we blend in!!!

New attendees usually walk in a little uncertainly, looking around. Don't worry though - we'll keep an eye open for you. And we're all very friendly - even the one's that support Montoya...

Sorry Bumper, couldn't resist ;)


Radz

[Ross Stonefeld]

Its like, less than 400 yards from the Cornish pasty stand in the train station to the pub...

[SeanValen]

Originally posted by Radz
400 yds??? Heck, if you don't turn up, we'll DRAG you 400yds!!

New attendees usually walk in a little uncertainly, looking around. Don't worry though - we'll keep an eye open for you. And we're all very friendly - even the one's that support Montoya...

Sorry Bumper, couldn't resist ;)


Radz

Looks like it's game on for Camel then, I hope to be there on Sunday, even though I need to walk more then 400 yards, by help of trains and more walking to stations and underground stations, le chat noir, you don't even have to buy a travel card, I have some major beef with you regarding you non attendence last year, then acting all authority like for your redemption this year, pushing me to come from the other part of London, when you live 400 yards away, you lucky bugger, you better attend all of them or else!

Originally posted by Marcel Schot

No, but Sean will give you a call from about 10 feet away

As for me attending, not very likely. Maybe on the rare occurences I happen to be in the UK during a GP weekend.

Invention of the Mobile, great thing.

[Bumper]

Originally posted by Radz
And we're all very friendly - even the one's that support Montoya...

Sorry Bumper, couldn't resist ;)


Radz

Hey! Fooking eediots No really, we're all very friendly, and hopefully we'll have a few visits from our very own Phil Hitchings cooking for us this season, rather than being dependent on the pub cook who tends to accidentally chop off a finger every now and then

[Jackman]

Is Seven 24 in the house?

[SeanValen]

Originally posted by Jackman
Is Seven 24 in the house?

Glad you menstioned him, he lives in Slough, last I heard he wanted to live more near London, he did come to a pub meet last year, I'll be starting a communications base to get message to him, to try and make it, but the type of person he is, can't see him waking up early on a Sunday, and getting into London from slough to make the race, I think we'll likely see him during the Europe season. But he may see my post, and treat it as a challenge to prove me wrong.


The fact that Jackman has posted here, may mean a surprise special guest appearance from him, because he travels the world like Bond, it's always good to go back to headquarters, London is your home, and we'll have supper on the pub table ready for you.



Why do the amercians call it supper anyway, I know it's dinner in UK, Jackman's supper time.

[le chat noir]

Originally posted by SeanValen
Looks like it's game on for Camel then, I hope to be there on Sunday, even though I need to walk more then 400 yards, by help of trains and more walking to stations and underground stations, le chat noir, you don't even have to buy a travel card, I have some major beef with you regarding you non attendence last year, then acting all authority like for your redemption this year, pushing me to come from the other part of London, when you live 400 yards away, you lucky bugger, you better attend all of them or else!

For the first time I can actually type

lmao

and mean it.
I've never used the phrase before.


I'm gonna be a major dissapointment after all this!!

Anyway, just so we're clear can we all post in here 'IN' or 'OUT' say at least 24 hours previous. I do intend to come, of course, and it seems that Sean has now resolved to come, so its all good, but you know, just in case....

Of course, the other way is just to post out if you renege.

[le chat noir]

Also I think there should be drinking games. Maybe there already are.

Perhaps you nominate a driver and for every postion lost or gained a drink must be drunk.
Or perhaps every time JA makes a nauseating comment a drink must be drunk. (Do we get commentary?)
Everytime STR is mistaken for RBR and viceversa (how would Murray have coped?!)

You get the drill. Think summat up.

[Bumper]

***BAHRAIN CAMEL MEETING CANCELLED***

The Camel has just contacted me with the following. There's good and bad news:

Bad news
- The Camel pub is under new management as per immediate effect.
- Opening times on Sundays now from 12.00 midday instead of 11.00 am.
- The function room is now only bookable for a guaranteed minimum of 20 people with deposit.

Good news
- We are booked in for all races (except early morning ones) for the little seating area at the back.
- If there's no function going on we are still welcome to use the function room, just not exclusively.
- The 20% Crown lager and food discount I arranged with old management last year still stands! (only for our existing Camel card holders)

The new manager is a spotty 20 year old kid in My First Suit attire, but my partner in crime Nicola who works there will make sure we still have a good time.

As the pub now opens at 12.00 midday on Sundays and the Bahrain race starts at 11.30, the Bahrain pub meeting will now not happen.

So we'll see you guys at lunchtime on Sunday 23 April, Imola GP for our first Camel meeting of the year

[SeanValen]

Originally posted by Bumper
***BAHRAIN CAMEL MEETING CANCELLED***

The Camel has just contacted me with the following. There's good and bad news:

Bad news
- The Camel pub is under new management as per immediate effect.
- Opening times on Sundays now from 12.00 midday instead of 11.00 am.
- The function room is now only bookable for a guaranteed minimum of 20 people with deposit.

Good news
- We are booked in for all races (except early morning ones) for the little seating area at the back.
- If there's no function going on we are still welcome to use the function room, just not exclusively.
- The 20% Crown lager and food discount I arranged with old management last year still stands! (only for our existing Camel card holders)

The new manager is a spotty 20 year old kid in My First Suit attire, but my partner in crime Nicola who works there will make sure we still have a good time.

As the pub now opens at 12.00 midday on Sundays and the Bahrain race starts at 11.30, the Bahrain pub meeting will now not happen.

So we'll see you guys at lunchtime on Sunday 23 April, Imola GP for our first Camel meeting of the year

Well I originally intended to start my season at Imola, was in two minds for Behrain, but I would of come.

I think the season will come on full force from albert park, Imola anyway, when it really gets interesting, so we'll have a strong start at the camel.


Good news about being booked for the all races, long term thinking, this is f1, no quick overnight solutions, you saw the opportunity, and took it!

hook
line
and
sinker

[zac510]

Bad luck

[kar]

Mmm, I will be keen to rock up, especially for Imola

[Radz]

Originally posted by Bumper
***BAHRAIN CAMEL MEETING CANCELLED***

Dammit!

Ah well. Them's the breaks sometimes. I'd invite you all to mine again, but:
(a) It's a long way for most of you,
(b) Due to a water leak, I have no carpets or bathroom floor at the moment

As for the 20 people with deposit yada yada yada, I know last year we had the 'F1 Only' sign up, but once the race started we often had other people sat in the function room area. Hopefully, not too many events will get booked in on a Sunday lunchtime during the season, so it shouldn't actually be that different.

And we'll sort out Captain "My First Suit". Maybe we'll introduce him to the finger-chopping chef from last year...

Sadly I won't be able to make the Imola weekend, as I'm actually running the London Marathon on April 23rd
It's all for charity, so if any of you guys want to sponsor me, there's a web page here...;)
And as we finish near to Victoria, if somebody could come to help peel me off the floor afterwards, that'd be great too...

Have a great Bahrain, everyone!


Radz

[Jackman]

That's a bugger, as it would have been a nice way into the season, as well as getting me on the way ahead of the big rugby match later in the day. I almost definitely won't be able to make the European rounds, so I was hoping to get at least one Camel day in before then. Bummer.

[SeanValen]

Originally posted by Radz
Dammit!

Ah well. Them's the breaks sometimes. I'd invite you all to mine again, but:
(a) It's a long way for most of you,
(b) Due to a water leak, I have no carpets or bathroom floor at the moment

As for the 20 people with deposit yada yada yada, I know last year we had the 'F1 Only' sign up, but once the race started we often had other people sat in the function room area. Hopefully, not too many events will get booked in on a Sunday lunchtime during the season, so it shouldn't actually be that different.

And we'll sort out Captain "My First Suit". Maybe we'll introduce him to the finger-chopping chef from last year...

Sadly I won't be able to make the Imola weekend, as I'm actually running the London Marathon on April 23rd
It's all for charity, so if any of you guys want to sponsor me, there's a web page here...;)
And as we finish near to Victoria, if somebody could come to help peel me off the floor afterwards, that'd be great too...

Have a great Bahrain, everyone!


Radz

The world is better place with ferrari fans like Radz are doing Charity, perhaps part of that good deed rubs off with the maranello outfit at Imola, and your both winners on that day.

Hey if they win, I'll be partying for 2 weeks until the next gp. Apart from 2001, they've had strong outings this century there, even last year.

It must be weird running on that day, as the gp might cross your mind, what has happened, who won etc

[SeanValen]

Originally posted by Jackman
That's a bugger, as it would have been a nice way into the season, as well as getting me on the way ahead of the big rugby match later in the day. I almost definitely won't be able to make the European rounds, so I was hoping to get at least one Camel day in before then. Bummer.

Hey you know London fairly well, why must the Camel be the only place, if anyone has ideas of places, where a pub might show the race, we should try for it, never give up, were back, that's the strength of the ferrari team!!!




I'll look out for some pubs, and keep your eye on this thread, since Jackman isn't coming to the Euro races, we owe him a bigger effort to get something arranged.


I'll be back, I hope to be in London on friday, scouting places, and meeting someone as well, so keep a eye on this thread all the way until saturday.


If I find a pub, it'll be dedicated to the great Jackman.

[SeanValen]

JACKPOT

This guy may open up 11am for us at FATHER TED's

http://www.viewlondo...ubbar_5697.html

they got tv screen, everything.


I know coverage starts at 10:30am, that means we literally will be entering as the race starts, better then nothing.......


He said ring me back on Friday to confirm


LOOKING BETTER Jackman, fingers crossed on friday hey. Amazing what a few clicks on the mouse and internet can do for you.


But wait for friday for confirmation.



Bumper has informed me she won't be coming even if this pub does open up at 11am.



So, we'll see who we got left if its on after friday.

[zac510]

I'm sure the Famous 3 Kings at West Kensington will be open. It is a pretty big sports pub with a few big screens and every sat channel in orbit. But best to call/check first..

[SeanValen]

Originally posted by zac510
I'm sure the Famous 3 Kings at West Kensington will be open. It is a pretty big sports pub with a few big screens and every sat channel in orbit. But best to call/check first..

Phoned, and they open at 12pm.

Father Ted's may open 11am though, on friday I will know.

[Cplus]

Originally posted by SeanValen


Phoned, and they open at 12pm.

Father Ted's may open 11am though, on friday I will know.

if the manager knew the F1 was on at 10:30 and thought he would get 20 people drinking - he'd open for sure.

this is the same man that re-opened at 2am for the Hatton / Tzu fight for what could have been 50 people tops - and didn't sell a drop of booze during the fight.....

[SeanValen]

Originally posted by Cplus


if the manager knew the F1 was on at 10:30 and thought he would get 20 people drinking - he'd open for sure.

this is the same man that re-opened at 2am for the Hatton / Tzu fight for what could have been 50 people tops - and didn't sell a drop of booze during the fight.....

Where do you live in London?

It'll be hard to get 20 people for us, 10 max, if everyone shows up and brings someone maybe.

[zac510]

Would struggle to get 20 people though, even in this big city.

F1 fans are everywhere but they seem to all disappear on race day..

[SeanValen]

Originally posted by zac510
Would struggle to get 20 people though, even in this big city.

F1 fans are everywhere but they seem to all disappear on race day..

Guess football is the main pub favorite.

f1 and pubs, a underground jungle private movement, a cult.

[Jackman]

I think it would be easier to get people to Kensington than to Hampstead, which is off the beaten track for most.

[SeanValen]

Originally posted by Jackman
I think it would be easier to get people to Kensington than to Hampstead, which is off the beaten track for most.

Yeah, but if its the only option, then it's the only option, Kensington said 12pm to me, no butts, but Hampstead said ring me back on friday to confirm 11am.

It's still in London, Radz has to drive from Houslow,to get to the Camel, so it's nothing new to us.

[kar]

Well I'm out at Watford, but I don't have real problems travelling wherever.

I realise how much of a pain it is organising these sorts of things, but I dunno, I'd rather watch Ferrari triumph or fail in the company of people who give a toss about F1 rather than my snoring golf playing flatmates ;)

Having a few pints of (hopefully decent) beer on hand would be a bonus too!

[SeanValen]

Originally posted by kar
Well I'm out at Watford, but I don't have real problems travelling wherever.

I realise how much of a pain it is organising these sorts of things, but I dunno, I'd rather watch Ferrari triumph or fail in the company of people who give a toss about F1 rather than my snoring golf playing flatmates ;)

Having a few pints of (hopefully decent) beer on hand would be a bonus too!

Check back on this thread on Friday, to see my confirmation if we have a bar ot not.

I need the atlas gang to be ready to pounce like MS, if a opportunity is available. Be ready!



Interesingly, no word from le chat noir, will you be up to going to this pub in hampstead le chat noir if its on Sunday? I notice you went quiet, after camel got canceled for behrain. You'll have longer to walk down the road this time, some train traveling, perhaps some punishment for not turning up last year, don't hide from me now!!!

[le chat noir]

Originally posted by SeanValen

Interesingly, no word from le chat noir, will you be up to going to this pub in hampstead le chat noir if its on Sunday? I notice you went quiet, after camel got canceled for behrain. You'll have longer to walk down the road this time, some train traveling, perhaps some punishment for not turning up last year, don't hide from me now!!!

I've only just noticed the thread getting active again. Been busy on that other one, which now I'll have to wait a week before I explain it.

Anyway, hampstead sounds maybe a bit far. I have two parties to go to, one on friday, one on saturday, with a pub crawl in between. Was hoping to crawl down the road to have a breakfast of champions with you all.

I won't say no to this new meet just yet, I'll confirm on Friday night, post party (unless its a really good party ;))

I will confirm to Imola though, so long as I'm in the country and not working.

[SeanValen]

Originally posted by le chat noir


I've only just noticed the thread getting active again. Been busy on that other one, which now I'll have to wait a week before I explain it.

Anyway, hampstead sounds maybe a bit far. I have two parties to go to, one on friday, one on saturday, with a pub crawl in between. Was hoping to crawl down the road to have a breakfast of champions with you all.

I won't say no to this new meet just yet, I'll confirm on Friday night, post party (unless its a really good party ;))

I will confirm to Imola though, so long as I'm in the country and not working.

[Lontano]

hi peoples!
i'll be going to London for the Malaysian GP weekend, that will take place on March the 19th. is the GP televised or something or i'll have to go and spend the morning with a bunch of gasoline sniffing English crazy guys... i mean... with all you charming people

[howardt]

I can't make this weekend, but I'll try and come along to the Camel for one or two of the euro races. I'll probably be an 'irregular', though. How'm I gonna recognise you guys so I don't walk straight past ?

If you want to win more numbers, keep bumping this thread up so that anyone passing thru london is aware of it.


BTW - in an australian pub, the landlord and the barstaff are australian. In an english pub, only the barstaff are australian.

[Bumper]

Howardt, look forward to you joining us at the Camel, most people can't make every race and/or are irregulars so don't worry. You can either find us in the big side room with the plasma screen, or in the little seating area at the back if we're banished by the rugby or cricket. If you're unsure and can't hear the cries of 'Ferrari!' or 'What a wanker that Montoya!', ask bar staff and they'll guide you to where we are Bring a beer on the way!

Lontano, the Malyasian GP is on here really early in the morning, about 7am, so the Camel will not be open at that time unfortunately. ITV always cover the race live though, if not on ITV1 then on one of their sister channels.