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[F1Fanatic.co.uk]

Champ Cars at Long Beach this weekend, three British drivers racing including Justin Wilson who's been quick in testing, plus Katherine Legge and Dan Clarke making their debuts. US start time is 4pm, that's 9pm over here.

There's obvious British interest so are British Eurosport (the rights holders) showing it live?

Are they hell.

Instead they're showing a repeat of the Moto GP (which is live on BBC anyway) on Eurosport 1 and news on Eurosport 2.

The soonest they have the Champ Cars on is eleven hours later, at 8am on Monday morning when I'm on my way to work.

British Eurosport, you suck. I'll be watching over the 'net instead.

(stomps off to compose irate letter to the same effect)

[ensign14]

Confucius, he say "never trust a product with Euro in its name".

[F1Fanatic.co.uk]

Or 'British'...

[BRG]

Originally posted by F1Fanatic.co.uk
British Eurosport, you suck

Agreed 100%! But thanks for telling when the champcar race is being shown - I would never have tracked it down to 8am on Monday morning and would have missed it as usual. Time to crank up the trusty old VCR!

Why Eurosport cannot even remotely keep to their schedules in the first place, and change them all the time for no apparent reason, I have never understood. There was a classic the other week, where we had extended snooker coverage - but there was no play because the tip of one player's cue had fallen off and he was repairing it. But Eurosport still broadcast all the (in)action live and overran so that the WRC coverage was an hour late. And why, when they are running late, do they persist in running all their lengthy adverts for themselves and trailers for next August's programming, instead of getting on with tonights shcedule!!

Trying to use their Champcar, and GP2 last year, coverage is hugely frustrating as they are hidden away as if they don't want anyone to see them! I missed most of them last year.

Still, there's always the lefthanded over-55 women's tennis open from Krakatoa to watch...

[cska]

Eurosport (International) has the race LIVE, Sunday at 22:00 CET.

http://www.eurosport...lng0_day4.shtml

[F1Fanatic.co.uk]

I keep on top of it using the Radio Times website and when the ChampCar's not on live I use the stream friom champcarworldseries.com. If they miss a GP2 race I'm screwed on that front.

It seems to me that if a sports channel buys the rights to show something live then they should commit to showing it live. If they decide to skip an event then they should be forced to hand over the rights to that particular event to another channel if they request it. And that doesn't just go for motor sport.

But to drop live action in favour of pre-recorded stuff is just insane, I mean, what are they thinking?

[F1Fanatic.co.uk]

Originally posted by cska
Eurosport (International) has the race LIVE, Sunday at 22:00 CET.

http://www.eurosport...lng0_day4.shtml

Ugh. That doesn't exactly make me feel better! But thanks for the tip.

[F1Fanatic.co.uk]

Now this is interesting. On Eurosport.co.uk under TV listings they now have Champ Car marked in for 9pm Sunday. Radio Times still say Moto GP. My Sky guide last night still said Motot GP but I see on Sky.com the British Eurosport listings for Sunday aren't available.

So - fingers crossed - maybe they will show it after all. And then I can retract my charge of sucking.

[cska]

Originally posted by F1Fanatic.co.uk


Ugh. That doesn't exactly make me feel better! But thanks for the tip.

british eurosport has it too, i think

http://www.eurosport...lng2_day4.shtml

at least so says the TV schedule on its site

[Kilted Wanderer]

Originally posted by BRG
Why Eurosport cannot even remotely keep to their schedules in the first place, and change them all the time for no apparent reason, I have never understood.

It's Eurosport's own patented DRM strategy - make it impossible for anyone to record anything with any confidence. It's the only channel that renders Sky Plus useless - makes you wonder whether its part of their pitch to advertisers - sports obsessive viewers desperate to watch action that isn't broadcast by anyone else will sit through hours of crap advertising in the vain hope that "their" sports event might actually appear...

[F1Fanatic.co.uk]

Originally posted by Kilted Wanderer
It's Eurosport's own patented DRM strategy - make it impossible for anyone to record anything with any confidence.

[ensign14]

Originally posted by F1Fanatic.co.uk
Or 'British'...

Not true, British Sea Power are really good.

[FredF1]

My space telly box is constantly giving the wrong programme info for Eurosport. Last Saturday, I was flicking channels and noticed the WTCC qualifying from Monza. That certainly hadn't been advertised at all - my channel guide told me it was footy that was on.

[BRG]

The worst thing about Eurosport is that their own website and teletext listings are usually wrong. If they don't know what they are showing and when, what chance do the rest of us have?

[Buttoneer]

I'm confused. Is British Eurosport the same as Eurosport 1 or Eurosport 2 or neither? And is the satellite channel the same as the freeview one?

[F1Fanatic.co.uk]

I think this is how it works at the moment:

I've got British Eurosport ('1') and British Eurosport 2 in my Sky package. I believe Freeview just has British Eurosport.

Continental Europe get Eurosport and Eurosport 2 - similar but different content to their British counterparts, and they run on Central European Time.

If you go to Eurosport.com and click TV Schedule you get the listings for Eurosport and Eurosport 2.

If you go to Eurosport.co.uk and click TV Schedule you get the listings for British Eurosport and British Eurosport 2 - but they are listed as 'Eurosport' and 'Eurosport 2'.

Confused? Me too.

[selespeed]

does anybody know if eurosport will have gp2 on programe this year???

[Jackman]

They are supposed to, but there's no mention of this week's race in Valencia, which may be a problem because it's their only non F1 weekend race.

[BRG]

Originally posted by Jackman
They are supposed to, but there's no mention of this week's race in Valencia

That probably means that they are going to show it, but don't want any of us to know when....

[Jackman]

There will be cameras there, just as there were in Bahrain, so it should just be a matter of accepting the feed. Although when I checked their website on the weekend, Eurosport made no mention of showing it.

[Buttoneer]

Madness. Doesn't sound worthwhile getting a topuptv Cam for my freeview box in time for the weekend then.

[Haddock]

Eurosport's TV schedules seem to be subject to completely random change. The least worst way of finding out what is on when is to flick through the listings on your set top box on the day in question - but even this has its considerable limitations. At least they're showing Champ Car this year - I missed the whole of the 04 season because I don't have the means to stream it online.

[jonpollak]

In the past I have found that if you bombard them with phone calls and e-mail's

They cough up the coverage

0207 4687777
(ask for programming)


Get Dialin'

Jp

[Scorg]

Wasnt this the reason motors TV had the rights for a year, due to british eurosports lame coverage of the season before.

Does sound like the coverage is back to that level again

[bnlflo]

don't get too exited about the race being scheduled on Eurosport intenational.

They will probably find a Snooker tournament, the re-run of a Bowling game from 1998, Curling Classics or some teleshopping show that will replace the race.

[Rob29]

Currently I think only those with internet access will be aware it is on at all.

[FredF1]

Don't forget classic champions league or world cup action from the archives. So much more important than showing contemporary stuff that is.

[F1Fanatic.co.uk]

Originally posted by jonpollak
In the past I have found that if you bombard them with phone calls and e-mail's

They cough up the coverage

0207 4687777
(ask for programming)


Get Dialin'

Jp

I like the 'proactive' approach. Will give them a call during lunch

[cska]

Originally posted by BRG
That probably means that they are going to show it, but don't want any of us to know when....

Why don't you just go to their website and just check it out?

both eurosport.co.uk & eurosport.com have both GP2 races live.


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Saturday race is LIVE on Eurosport 2 (12:30 CET for the international channel & 11:30 GMT for British Eurosport 2)

Sunday race is LIVE on Eurosport (12:30 for the international channel & 11:30 GMT for British Eurosport)

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go and check it for yourself, if u like.

[F1Fanatic.co.uk]

Originally posted by cska
Saturday race is LIVE on Eurosport 2 (12:30 CET for the international channel & 11:30 GMT for British Eurosport 2)
Sunday race is LIVE on Eurosport (12:30 for the international channel & 11:30 GMT for British Eurosport)

Have you got a link? On eurosport.co.uk it doesn't say that on their Motorsports page, their GP2 page, or on any of their top GP2 stories, or on their TV schedules.

(And they didn't reply to my e-mail yesterday and I couldn't get them on the 'phone today.)

That said, hopefully it is actually going to be on. And the Champ Car...

[BRG]

Originally posted by cska
Why don't you just go to their website and just check it out?

Just because they advertising something on their website does not , in my experience, mean that they are going to show the coverage at that time, or indeed, ever show it all. But I shall now look out for it, although I confidently expect to find myself watching overweight American women chopping logs or some other such sporting 'highlight' instead.

[cska]

Originally posted by F1Fanatic.co.uk


Have you got a link? On eurosport.co.uk it doesn't say that on their Motorsports page, their GP2 page, or on any of their top GP2 stories, or on their TV schedules.

(And they didn't reply to my e-mail yesterday and I couldn't get them on the 'phone today.)

That said, hopefully it is actually going to be on. And the Champ Car...

looks like you did not look close enough, it's in the TV Schedule section:

Saturday:

http://www.eurosport...lng2_day2.shtml

Sunday:

http://www.eurosport...lng2_day3.shtml

[cska]

Originally posted by BRG
Just because they advertising something on their website does not , in my experience, mean that they are going to show the coverage at that time, or indeed, ever show it all. But I shall now look out for it, although I confidently expect to find myself watching overweight American women chopping logs or some other such sporting 'highlight' instead.

well, don't know about you and british eurosport as i only get the international version but i can hardly remeber cases that their tv schedule listed at the website to be much too different from the actual one ... apart from the days during the olympics ... but i guess that was normal.

[F1Fanatic.co.uk]

Originally posted by cska


looks like you did not look close enough, it's in the TV Schedule section:

Saturday:

http://www.eurosport...lng2_day2.shtml

Sunday:

http://www.eurosport...lng2_day3.shtml

Cool - it wasn't there when I first looked, or the Champ Car, they must have updated it.

British Eurosport, you don't necessarily suck anymore. But perhaps you could update your website a bit more often and do a better job of supplying your listings to third parties...

[OO7]

I really do hope they show the races. I scrolled ahead to Saturday & Sunday on the Sky Guide TV menu.

Saturday on Eurosport UK 11:30am is MotoGP, on Eurosport UK 2 at the same time is Top 24 Clubs followed at 12:00pm by UEFA Champions League.

Sunday on Eurosport UK 11:30am is MotoGP followed at 12:00 by Live Pro-Tour Cycling, on Eurosport UK 2 at the same time is Live Rotterdam Marathon.

I can't see any mention of GP2 at all, fingers cross those listings are to be update, or simply wrong.

Obi

[LB]

Well I don't blame them on the cycling it is the Paris-Roubaix classic

Motorsport weekend is scheduled for 8.30pm Sunday, I guess GP2 will be there because it certainly isn't anywhere else and directly after that at 9pm uk time

LIVE Champ Car coverage of the second round of the champ car world series from Long Beach.. at least its there I suppose.

[Imperial]

Eurosport from an NTL owners perspective:

What others may call Eurosport 1 is British Eurosport on NTL (and I believe the onscreen logo states that anyway).

What others may call Eurosport 2 is titled Eurosport GB 2 on NTL, even though the onscreen logo just states "British Eurosport 2" - this is the channel that used to be Eurosport News, but that channel no longer exists and is now just British Eurosport 2.

I had never heard of Eurosport International and it certainly isn't no NTL on any package (and I have full 100% of available channels).

For what it's worth, British Eurosport single-handedly decided for me whether my "allegiance" should remain to Champ Car or switch to IRL. I in fact made the switch several years ago to IRL, as it was impossible to find Champ Car in it's correct timeslot on Eurosport and compared to Sky Sports superb Indycar coverage (and on time - even when it's time delayed, which is rare, they stick to the scheduled time), well.....there really is no comparison and still isn't. I did pay out for the internet feed for Champ Car Race Director (by the way, are they still charging or is that free now?) but I couldn't get comfortable watching a race for 2 hours at a computer screen. Sofa, armed with beer and pizza/curry is the only way to watch these things.

I would like a sponsor to read this actually, so they will understand why Champ Car declined to a worse state than even Indycar.

Nowadays I enjoy Indycar live on Sky with amazing coverage (both from the US and Sky Sports UK's own studio team) and I follow Champ Car via the Autosport magazine reports.

[cska]

Originally posted by Imperial
Eurosport from an NTL owners perspective:

What others may call Eurosport 1 is British Eurosport on NTL (and I believe the onscreen logo states that anyway).

What others may call Eurosport 2 is titled Eurosport GB 2 on NTL, even though the onscreen logo just states "British Eurosport 2" - this is the channel that used to be Eurosport News, but that channel no longer exists and is now just British Eurosport 2.

I had never heard of Eurosport International and it certainly isn't no NTL on any package (and I have full 100% of available channels).

you're wrong.

in fact there is difference in the programming and that is what distinguishes the continental europe version and the british one.

go to eurosport.com and eurosport.co.uk and you'll see that they both have different tv schedules for today.

they are also on different satellites:

you can get the british one only on Astra 2A in Sky Digital package:

http://www.lyngsat-a...rt-British.html

and the international version you can find on various different packlages on numerous satellites

http://www.lyngsat-a.../Eurosport.html

besides the commentators too distinguish between the international & the british version. i follow all the olympic weightlifting on eurosport, because i don't get that live on my local tv's, and those 2 british guys that commentate the sport on the international channel often complained that british eurosport does not show the sport and no weightlifting is shown in Britain.

[Imperial]

Originally posted by cska


you're wrong.

in fact there is difference in the programming and that is what distinguishes the continental europe version and the british one.

go to eurosport.com and eurosport.co.uk and you'll see that they both have different tv schedules for today.

I've never heard of Eurosport International. How am I wrong about that? I'm right, 100% right in fact, because I had NEVER heard of it !!

Just because I'd never heard of it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It means I'd never heard of it !!!

[cska]

well you said that eurosport 1 is british eurosport plus eurosport 2 is british eurosport 2, then you say you never heard of eurosport international, whereas the international channels are mostly regarded as eurosport and eurosport 2, while the british one are called BE & BE2

it seemed to me, that you think eurosport 1 & 2 are the same channels both in britain & continental europe.

sorry for the misunderstanding if you did not say that.

[OO7]

I just checked the Sky Guide TV Menu again and Eurosport UK 2 have changed their scheduling, now showing GP2 on for 11:30am today

Obi

[FredF1]

Not for me though.

Checking the Eurosport tv guide against the Eurosport daily schedule on my digibox - it seems to switch between Eurosport and Eurosport 2 throughout the day.

According to this - I'll have Moto GP when GP2 is on but then switch over to Eurosport 2 the minute GP2 is finished for coverage of Diving.

[Imperial]

Ha ha !! No no, just saying that on NTL the channels are labelled British Eurosport and Eurosport GB 2.

Eurosport GB 2 has Eurosports own logo on the screen named "British Eurosport 2" so NTL are confusing the issue by calling it Eurosport GB 2 on their channel index.

Unfortunately for we NTL owners, Eurosport International is not available.

[Youichi]

During todays MotoGP coverage on British Eurosport, there was a small advert in the corner of the screen advertising the Cart coverage starting at 8:45 pm, UK time Sunday night.

So it seems they are showing it.....

[Imperial]

Yes, the Moto GP race was a very nice surprise in itself (I thought it was tomorrow, not today!!) so it was a double surprise to see them advertise Champ Cars for tomorrow night. Can't wait !!

[Imperial]

Writing this post-race, "good" to see British Eurosport as "reliable" as ever.

Champ Car programme due to start at 8.45pm, the ice-curling ran overtime by nearly 15 minutes. What a joke.

To make matters worse, British drivers Justin Wilson finished 2nd and Katherine Legge finished 8th (on her debut), yet the race finished and British Eurosport immediately went bye-bye. NO interviews with two of the three Brits in that race ?

[MAJP]

Originally posted by Imperial
Writing this post-race, "good" to see British Eurosport as "reliable" as ever.

Champ Car programme due to start at 8.45pm, the ice-curling ran overtime by nearly 15 minutes. What a joke.

To make matters worse, British drivers Justin Wilson finished 2nd and Katherine Legge finished 8th (on her debut), yet the race finished and British Eurosport immediately went bye-bye. NO interviews with two of the three Brits in that race ?

that happened also in eurosport international and in Astra Satellite (I think that one is half german).

The race was stoped by time, so they didn't had much time left.

[LB]

Originally posted by Imperial
Champ Car programme due to start at 8.45pm, the ice-curling ran overtime by nearly 15 minutes. What a joke.

To be fair that was LIVE coverage of the world championship final (congrats Scotland )and they were there in plenty of time for the start.

[Rob29]

Originally posted by Imperial
Writing this post-race, "good" to see British Eurosport as "reliable" as ever.

Champ Car programme due to start at 8.45pm, the ice-curling ran overtime by nearly 15 minutes. What a joke.

To make matters worse, British drivers Justin Wilson finished 2nd and Katherine Legge finished 8th (on her debut), yet the race finished and British Eurosport immediately went bye-bye. NO interviews with two of the three Brits in that race ?

Curling actually overran by 45mins! 'Motorsport Weekend'highlights programme postponed until after the champcar.I have just read elsewhere that the start was delayed due the same problem affecting US coverage-an overrunning ball game!! So we did not miss anything vital-though I would have preferred to hear the national anthem rather than Eurosport comentator waffling over it.
Still any complaints more than made up for by the amount of in-car footage of my idol Katherine!

[BRG]

As a NTL subscriber, I get some sort of [British] Eurosport - reading the above, I am thoroughly confused which feed it is. Except that it was the feed that got NO GP2 coverage, despite what it may say on the Eurosport websites. Still, we did get the champcar race - despite Eurosports desperate attempts to cock it up by staying with a bunch of grown men playing ice-slides.

And WHY do Eurosport ALWAYS run their Motorsports Weekend magazine show before the final WRC coverage, and spoil it by giving out the result?