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[group 7]

dears users

I post some pics of a great british driver


brian redman

welcome yours pics

regards


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[Roger Stoddard]

How very appropriate! What with 2006 being Mozart's 250th birthday and all ...

[Gary C]

I do hate it when someone titles a thread 'Tribute to....', it always makes me think the worst.

[Stephen W]

Originally posted by Gary C
I do hate it when someone titles a thread 'Tribute to....', it always makes me think the worst.

Same hear. I thought the worst and immediately accessed the thread.

Thank heavens it was only a well meaning enthusiast!

[David M. Kane]

I talked a few weeks ago to Brian the day after is 69th birthday. He's doing very well.

[f1steveuk]

I have to say, so did I, oops.

Also, the first picture looks more like Howden Ganley? Did Redman ever use a peak?

[group 7]

dear sir

excuse me the helmet is of howden ganley the race is riverside 1971 year

regards

group 7

[Twin Window]

Originally posted by group 7

excuse me the helmet is of howden ganley the race is riverside 1971 year

This is correct.

[group 7]

dears users

hi I post other pic of brian redman

1973 year vallelunga circuit near rome Italy

group 7

[group 7]

dears users

two pics more

regards

welcome yours pics

group 7

[f1steveuk]

Originally posted by group 7
dear sir

excuse me the helmet is of howden ganley the race is riverside 1971 year

regards

group 7

No problem!! I was just amazed at the length of the injection trumpets!!

[Jerry Entin]

Group 7 very nice pictures but your first picture with the General Pants writing on the BRM at Riverside in 1971 isn't Brian Redman. Brian drove the car at Monterey that year. Myself and Sid Taylor helped him. He finished 4th. Jo Siffert finished 5th in a Porsche. Jo was tragically killed between the two races and Brian had to attend the funeral. Lou Stanley sent over Howden Ganley to drive the car at Riverside. Howden did a great job and finished 3rd. Also the engine in the car was really a McLaren engine. It was out of Sid Taylor's Inter series car that Peter Gethin had driven. When the car and engine came to California I had George Bolthoff modify it and he is the one who put the staggered injector tubes on. It ran very good.

[bradbury west]

To those of you with a high regard for Brian Redman, of if you want to remind yourself just how successful he was in formidable machinery in a bloody period in our sport's history, I must direct you to this month's Motor Sport, with Simon Taylor's "Lunch With" interview. IMHO his best yet, helped by a decent word allocation.

I had forgotten just how successful BR had been, having seen him in the early days, plus the first 100mph lap at Oulton IIRC, but only reading about long distance events in the magazines, plus trying to follow all aspects of our sport in those days.

Simon had the wisdom to fill in a few details and add a bit of salient background, otherwise reporting what Brian Redman said verbatim. It results in a very powerful interview, almost emotional, and perhaps cathartic for Redman, as he makes it very clear how stressful it all was, rather than glorious, especially in the 70s. , and that after the high death toll through the late 60s of those very close to him. It took a brave man to reject Ferrari's offer only to be asked a second time, uniquely, then seeing the politics and immorality of the tactics first hand at a time when drivers were seen almost as a consumable item, as many had found before.

I suspect BR felt better after the interview, not least for Harry Ramsden's fish and chips followed by spotted dick (translation available for our overseas readers)

Admiring and respecting him before, I hold Redman in even higher regard now

Read the interview for yourselves.

Roger Lund.

[Jerry Entin]

Brian Redman in 1972 F5000 series. Chevron B24. At Elkhart Lake.
photo lent site by Tom Schultz-copyright 2006 Tom Schultz

[wolf sun]

MotorSport´s April 2003 issue featured a good article on Brian...

[Gary C]

so does this months' !!

[Ray Bell]

One of the great drivers...

How about a change of thread title, Twinny, so we can enjoy these pics without any anxiety?

[Alan Cox]

Oulton Park Good Friday 1975

[mwphoto]

A few from Road America 1985....

[bradbury west]

For those who may not have had the opportunity to read the Simon Taylor interview in Motor Sport, with BR, see earlier post, one gem which emerged is that John Horsman later confided that at Spa, in 917 Porsches, Redman had been 4 seconds per lap FASTER than Siffert and Rodriguez. Read that again.. 4 seconds per lap FASTER than than Seppi and Pedro in a 917 at Spa, a place BR hated, but where he won several times in the major races.

Horsman apparently did not let it be known at the time, otherwise they would have had to pay BR more money, and the sums which he cites as being paid were by no means of the "gold bar" variety which some people think, and that for driving a 917 of all things at race speeds.

Just thought you should know that, for the next time you see, read or think of Brian Redman in a racing context.

Roger Lund.

[sterling49]

Originally posted by bradbury west
For those who may not have had the opportunity to read the Simon Taylor interview in Motor Sport, with BR, see earlier post, one gem which emerged is that John Horsman later confided that at Spa, in 917 Porsches, Redman had been 4 seconds per lap FASTER than Siffert and Rodriguez. Read that again.. 4 seconds per lap FASTER than than Seppi and Pedro in a 917 at Spa, a place BR hated, but where he won several times in the major races.


Roger Lund.

I always took it as read that Pedro and Seppi were the fastest around Spa in 917's........a very big hand for the Red Rose driver

[group 7]

hi

I add more pics of brian redman




riverside Imsa 1987 year




riverside Imsa 1985 year




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can am 1969 w. glen



1974 f 5000

[Jerry Entin]

Brian Redman at Monterey CanAm in 1971. Finished a fine 4th in the BRM P-167. Car run by Sid Taylor and prepared by Ron Bennett, engine by George Bolthoff. Brian's good friend Jo Siffert is behind Brian in this photo and he finished 5th in the non Turbo Porsche. Jackie Oliver is in the Peter Bryant designed Shadow. Sadly after this race Jo Siffert was killed while at a Formula One type race in England. Brian had to attend the funeral. Lou Stanley sent Howden Ganley over to drive the car at Riverside after Brian was unable to attend. The car finished a fine 3rd at Riverside. Under Howden's great driving. And Ron Bennett's great preparation. And George Bolthoff's great engine.
photo Dave Friedman-copyright 1999 Dave Friedman

[MCS]

Originally posted by Jerry Entin
Brian Redman at Monterey CanAm in 1971. Finished a fine 4th in the BRM P-167. Car run by Sid Taylor and prepared by Ron Bennett, engine by George Bolthoff.

With all due respect, Jerry, this looks like an Interserie race at Hockenheim.

But I'm happy to be proved wrong!

[Jerry Entin]

MCS you are right. I put up the wrong picture. My fault. Thanks for your help. I have switched it with the right one. It is the car he drove at Monterey however. Here is Brian in the BRM P-167 in the Interseries. Car run by Sid Taylor and prepared by Ron Bennett. Same number that is what threw me off.

[group 7]

mr jerry entin


many thanks for the nice pics


group 7

[Macca]

Redman in the Aston Martin AMR1 at Brands in 1989:



Paul M

[MCS]

Originally posted by Jerry Entin
Brian Redman at Monterey CanAm in 1971. Finished a fine 4th in the BRM P-167. Car run by Sid Taylor and prepared by Ron Bennett, engine by George Bolthoff. Brian's good friend Jo Siffert is behind Brian in this photo and he finished 5th in the non Turbo Porsche. Jackie Oliver is in the Peter Bryant designed Shadow. Sadly after this race Jo Siffert was killed while at a Formula One type race in England. Brian had to attend the funeral. Lou Stanley sent Howden Ganley over to drive the car at Riverside after Brian was unable to attend.

This is interesting. Brian Redman attended Jo Siffert's funeral - absolutely no surprise there; but Ganley (one of Seppi's team-mates that terrible afternoon at Brands), was sent off to do a CanAm race by Louis Stanley...

Interesting, as I say. Wonder what Ganley remembers about this?

[Roger Clark]

Originally posted by bradbury west
For those who may not have had the opportunity to read the Simon Taylor interview in Motor Sport, with BR, see earlier post, one gem which emerged is that John Horsman later confided that at Spa, in 917 Porsches, Redman had been 4 seconds per lap FASTER than Siffert and Rodriguez. Read that again.. 4 seconds per lap FASTER than than Seppi and Pedro in a 917 at Spa, a place BR hated, but where he won several times in the major races.

There was a time when TNF would not accept a statement like this without at least a raised eyebrow.

Rodriguez was credited with fastest lap in the race at 3min 16.5. This was set at a time when he was recovering from a blown tyre. Redman and Surtees had taken over from Siffert and Ickx respectively but Rodriguez continued until almost half distance. To lap at such a speed after having driven nearly 500 kms is mind boggling. Redman was also driving very fast at the time, gaining 3-4 seconds a lap on Surtees at one stage. Siffert's first spell in the car had been in generally poor conditions, although he did lap in 3min 25 after 10 laps. Both Rodriguez and Ickx were lapping faster most of the time. By the time Siffert started his second spell, his lead over Ickx was such that it was not necessary to go so fast. I couldn't find any lap times for Redman but it seems clear that he couldn't be 4 secs a lap faster than Rodriguez. He may have been faster than Siffert, but not in comparable conditions.

none of this should diminish Brian Redman's reputation and the praise he is getting on this thread is well deserved. Reading contemporary reports, it is also clear that the 1970 Spa 1,000kms should be high on the list of greatest races of all time.

[bradbury west]

In the apparent absence of a raised eyebrow I was happy to accept, and repeat, Simon Taylor's account, since a lap time is a lap time is a lap time, unless of course John Horsman had got it wrong, which would seem unlikely.

To me, the prospect of doing 160mph at Spa is awesome, let alone averaging it.

On another tack, I note from a programme for the '69 British GP which has come my way, that BR was listed to drive the Cosworth 4wd car, but it did not turn up, according to the book. It is a pity that we do not thus have BR's views on the car.

I suspect the fact that he was co-opted to drive the device was indicative of his position as a journeyman driver, indicating that he needed to do such things to earn the dosh, as opposed to being a chap who was merely paid to further his own indulgent hobby, see earlier post.

Roger Lund.

[Stephen W]

Originally posted by bradbury west
On another tack, I note from a programme for the '69 British GP which has come my way, that BR was listed to drive the Cosworth 4wd car, but it did not turn up, according to the book. It is a pity that we do not thus have BR's views on the car.

I suspect the fact that he was co-opted to drive the device was indicative of his position as a journeyman driver, indicating that he needed to do such things to earn the dosh, as opposed to being a chap who was merely paid to further his own indulgent hobby, see earlier post.

Roger Lund.

Roger, I suspect far from being regarded as a 'journeyman driver' Brian Redman was 'co-opted to drive' the Cosworth 4wd because of his talent for setting up cars and getting the best out of them. I suspect Cosworth approached him rather than the other way round.

[bradbury west]

Steve, if you check my previous posts you will be in no doubt of either my admiration for BR or my readiness to champion his cause. His skills are not in question. My point was that in ST's s article BR makes the point that it was only with Ferrari that he was paid "serious" money, therefore the drive with the Cosworth would be something which he undertook/accepted because he was paid to do so, the correct understanding of the term "journeyman". His availability would have been to hand, since he was not contracted to drive anything else at the GP and was thus available. I have no doubt that Mike Costin would have readily appreciated BR's car skills in all respects. It may also have been that BR found the notion of racing a 4wd single seater both a novelty and a challnge, being of the era when he recalled the Ferguson no doubt. There is no question of the term "journeyman" used in a pejorative or derogatory sense, just the opposite, since the term presupposes the person to have the requisite skills. No offence intended.

RL

[ReWind]

Something about Brian Redman here
&
something by himself here.

[raceannouncer2003]

OT, I guess, but Brian Redman's story about Vasek Polak mentions:

"...he (Vasek) eventually made his way to America..."

For more detail on that, see this page:

www.tamsoldracecarsite.net/GeorgeKeckFerrari1.html

Frank Juhan's son Frank, Jr. lives in Vancouver...the escape by his dad and the others is quite a story in itself, I understand!

Vince Howlett, Victoria, B.C., Canada

[Fr@nk]

I remember Brian Redman as a great driver, his partnership with Jacky Ickx and Jo Siffert in the Gulf Team was fantastic.
He had a great season also in 1972 with Ferrari 312 PB, and I think Brian was one of most affordable driver of his age, the perfect companion of the "heavy feet" like Jo Siffert, but a very fast driver too.

Fr@nk