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#1 CRM

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Posted 28 September 2006 - 22:06

Just been looking at the website for the province where the F1 circuit is to be located ifor the 2010 South Korea race and the entire emphasis on the current attractions is culture and the environment. The link is below and if you take a look at the list on the left of the best 10 tourist attractions, the top one is a pottery making village, others are temples, mountain villas and folk villages. F1 will certainly make an impact here and I sure hope that they know what they are getting themselves into!!

http://namdokorea.com/en/main.jsp

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#2 ehagar

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Posted 28 September 2006 - 22:25

Build a track first. The on again, off again Champcar race in Korea is a bloody joke. Show the money and some organization and things will happen.

As far as the country goes... why not? The only limitation is that they can't expand the number of races too far. What I would suggest is that they have the four races in Asia-Australia (Japan, China, Korea, Australia) and drop one from the calendar for one year and then another race the next... So there are 3 GP's in the region during a calendar year and a country will get a race for 3 out of 4 years.

Just a thought... But that would mean Bernie would have chance to threaten a track and prostitute F1 to the highest bidder. What was I thinking :smoking:

#3 themark

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Posted 29 September 2006 - 01:19

Whatever happened to the Mexico guaranteed race? Didn't they have a deal penned for the future? It all sounds like BS (Ecclestone) to me. Another gun to point at the current courses that aren't feeding the slush fund (Silverstone, Spa). Every new track that Bernie can get built (or promised) is another one he can use to blackmail the others.

Frankly I can't imagine any country without an established fan base in some or other racing series paying out all that cash to host a race that they will lose money on. Look at Germany, they have to share a race now because they couldn't scrape enough funds out of the events to carry on with two. The only countries I think can fund two races are Italy and Japan. I can speak from experience about Suzuka... they are (were) definitely making money. It's sold out 9 months in advance, and General admission race day is standing room only. And I'm sure they were making a ton of cash on "omiyage" gifts for friends and co-workers. Hell... even the programs are sold out by mid-day Saturday!

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Posted 29 September 2006 - 01:39

I reckon you've hit the nail on the head there themark. In fact it makes me wonder why they didn't put the F1 theme park in Japan. Apparently the Japanese love theme parks and a little known fact is that Disney's most successful theme parks are not in the US but in Japan (the world's most visited in 2005 I remember reading).

#5 Zawed

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Posted 29 September 2006 - 01:45

Originally posted by CRM
Just been looking at the website for the province where the F1 circuit is to be located ifor the 2010 South Korea race and the entire emphasis on the current attractions is culture and the environment. The link is below and if you take a look at the list on the left of the best 10 tourist attractions, the top one is a pottery making village, others are temples, mountain villas and folk villages. F1 will certainly make an impact here and I sure hope that they know what they are getting themselves into!!

http://namdokorea.com/en/main.jsp


I'm actually quite surprised the circuit promoters chose Jeolla province for the circuit - the region is a bit of a backwater in Korea relatively speaking. Mind you, a lot of prominent politicians including Kim Dae-jung (past president) come from the region, so politically the region is quite strong, which probably had a role in the decision to have the circuit there. Still, it should have been near Seoul or Suwon for better accessibility to the average folk.

#6 Isamu77

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Posted 29 September 2006 - 05:30

Better South Korea than Singapore. :up:

#7 Jodum5

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Posted 29 September 2006 - 13:34

Actually a singapore GP would be awesome cause it would give me a reason to go to that country I've always wanted to visit or work there)

#8 Isamu77

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Posted 29 September 2006 - 20:34

I dont like my folks but thank god they got me out of that hole. Its a pathetic lil country. F1 doesn't need a street race on what used to be a swamp.

#9 mark f1

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Posted 02 October 2006 - 09:46

Official announcement made today. Tilke track of course. Can't find details of the track anywhere, Tilke's website doesn't seem to mention it.

#10 R Soul

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Posted 02 October 2006 - 10:20

Originally posted by Isamu77
F1 doesn't need a street race on what used to be a swamp.

Isn't Sepang built on former marshland?

#11 mark f1

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Posted 02 October 2006 - 12:52

Looking interesting now.

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Sounds a bit like Adelaide with part being permanent track and part street track. Want to see a plan of it now.

#12 Calorus

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Posted 02 October 2006 - 13:49

I think it's gonna be pretty amazing.

Taking F1 to new ports (pardon the pun) is the best reason and motivation for the removal of circuits. And the expansion of the calendar away from it's traditional European home seems really worthwwhile, in itself.

We need to get back to Kylami, too...

Plus there's nothing better than a bit of range, and anther wide harbour street circuit should be welcomed.

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Posted 02 October 2006 - 14:03

south is very capitalistm style. like hitler, staline or something.

news could be a north corean race.

#14 Calorus

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Posted 02 October 2006 - 14:07

Originally posted by lukywill
south is very capitalistm style. like hitler, staline or something.

news could be a north corean race.


Or Bush?

#15 lukywill

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Posted 02 October 2006 - 14:10

samora machel.

#16 Calorus

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Posted 02 October 2006 - 14:20

If he could be reincarnated, or otherwise brought back - he'd make a better leader than a great many in power today.

#17 lukywill

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Posted 02 October 2006 - 14:24

were you born in mozambique?

#18 Calorus

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Posted 02 October 2006 - 14:26

No, but I always have respect for anyone who struggles for equality.

#19 lukywill

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Posted 02 October 2006 - 14:28

like bush?

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#20 Calorus

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Posted 02 October 2006 - 14:33

The difference is the nature of the struggle to walk around the globe and inflict your will upon the masses of another country is one thing.

To be born in a situation find support from your compatriots and an agreement of wills amongst your peers and make changes agreed within the majority in your country, is quite different.

#21 lukywill

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Posted 02 October 2006 - 14:46

do you know machel was paid and suported by the soviets to make a perfect robery in mozambique witch still today they are lacking? he was made put there by assasins that killed proper local people like mondelane.

and yes i agree that old dictatorship should be throu up by most rich powers.

#22 Calorus

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Posted 02 October 2006 - 14:53

I agree that people can argue hearsay until they're blue in the face - if true, I'd agree that he were a hypocrit, liar and a thief.

However - the only thing we can say for sure is that the changes brought to public schools, public health and wage equality between workers were clear and welcome, and long overdue.

Whatever his flaws real or otherwise he certainly did a lot of good for his people.

#23 lukywill

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Posted 02 October 2006 - 15:36

i´m sorry for your ignorance.
there are millions dead there after the withdraw from 74 portuguese.
if you go today there you´ll cheer a lot with adse desead people. and pratically no industry alive.
the ones that make a lot of money spend it in paris buying bullshit and raise stupid and selfish chindren.

that´s what happens when oil - money - comes to peoples minds. they allways forget to recue good people. but irak was one of them.

#24 Calorus

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Posted 02 October 2006 - 15:40

I'm sure I'm sorry for my own ignorance, as well - but the Portuguese occupation seemed unjust and unwelcome on the part of the native people. The natives made their decision and supported the changes that were made. And in the throes of these changes the prime motivated died.

#25 lukywill

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Posted 02 October 2006 - 15:44

i´m sure this discussion will not be allowed in this place.
possible moved at pc. and there i will not step foot.

anyway: i´m sure you are well intented. but you must learn a lot more about africa.

i for one don´t have the same ideas as bush - i´m an anarquist, trostky style - but don´t think 'rich' people in the north amererica and europe disagree with him. for the wrong reasons.

#26 le chat noir

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Posted 02 October 2006 - 15:47

Steering clear of the politics best kept to the paddock, (and off-topic - its f1 suitability to SK, not SK's suitability to F1, after all) I think this SK race sounds very good.

What chance the Race of Champions or some Super Special Rally Stage taking place in that huge huge huge stadium in North Korea?!

#27 lukywill

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Posted 02 October 2006 - 15:50

it could kill a lot of people and make news all around the world.

#28 le chat noir

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Posted 02 October 2006 - 15:51

Originally posted by lukywill
it could kill a lot of people and make news all around the world.


what could?

#29 lukywill

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Posted 02 October 2006 - 15:53

taking place in the north.

#30 lukywill

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Posted 02 October 2006 - 15:55

as you see - or don´t - north korea doesn´t like at all laughs and much more stickers that comes along with a motor race.

#31 le chat noir

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Posted 02 October 2006 - 15:58

Indeed. The stadium is actually only used for mass displays or koreans waving flags and such. I was only being facetious anyway, its an amazing stadium tho.