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[flatout911]

Has anyone information or pics of these relatively unknown drivers ?

Roy Baker, Franco Bernabei, Aldo Bertuzzi, Gerd Biechteler, Roland Binder, Maxime Bochet, Gino Bollinger,Warren Booth, Paolo Bozzetto, Roberto Campominosi, John Cardwell, Francesco Cerulli Irelli, Bernard Chevanne, Sandro Cinotti, David Cole, Paul Craven, Allan Deacon, Norman Dickson,Robert Ellice, Roberto Farnetti, Jean Claude Favre, Laurent Ferrier, Roby Filannino, Andrew Fletcher, Bruno Frey, Giancarlo Gagliardi, Julian Gerard, Carlo Giorgio, Ian Grob, Cliff Hansen, Francy Jerancic, Helmut Kalenborn, Peter Korda, John L'Amie, Gernot Lamby, Jürg Lienhard, Werner Lindermann, Freddy Link, Wolfgang Locher, Arriva, Corrado Manfredini, Gaudenzio Mantova, Bob Marsland, Kim Mather, Iain McLaren, Sergio Mignotti, Roland Minder, Fausto Morello, Lorenzo Niccolini, Lionel Noghes, Guillermo Ortega, Jean Pierre Paoli, Ferrante Ponti, Antonio Prado, Ettore Ricci, Philip Robinson, Marco Rocca, Adrian Russell,Georges Schäfer, Fredy Schnarwiler, Shangry La (Romano Martini), Jörg Siegrist, PaulSmith, Wyatt Stanley, Patrick Studer, Danilo Tesini, Jimmy Veitch, Francesco Vinto, Udo Wagenhäuser, Adrian Wilkins, John Wingfield, Bernhard Wissler and Severino Zampatti

Thanks for all replys

[Stephen W]

Paul Smith runs the tyre company BMTR based in Birmingham. They are one of the main suppliers to the Speed Event competitors.

and

Arriva is now a bus company!

[Cirrus]

You will find information on many of the drivers in your list by using the "Search BB" facility at the top of the page. For example, entering "john AND wingfield" will lead you to 12 threads in which he is mentioned.

This thread may also be helpful (there's very little on TNF that hasn't been discussed before in some form!)

http://forums.autosp...&highlight=lost

BTW Jean Pierre Paoli won at Angouleme a couple of weeks ago.

[Huw Jadvantich]

Roy Baker , Norman Dickson and Warren Booth were all fairly well known competitors in tin tops, and Kim Mather regularly raced a March in UK Formula libre. Ian Grob and Wyatt Stanley arn't exactly unfamiliar either perhaps Formula Atlantic links them all?.

[ian senior]

Werner Lindermann was sometimes known as "Noddy". although I have no idea why. There is a picture of him in the book "Race Report 3", showing a genial looking bespectacled chap.

Bernard Chevanne achieved fortune when he licensed his name to Vauxhall for the van version of the Chevette car.

No idea about Roland Minder - should that be Binder?

[ensign14]

Baker ran something in Group C2 in the 80s (an Argo? Pink IIRC), there are pics of Bertuzzi in the F3000 yearbooks, there's a pic of Binder or Minder in Automobile Year 1984 IIRC, Lienhard is snapped in Dr Lawrence's book on March as he nearly won a race through a tyre gamble, Marco Rocca took the nickname "Rollerball" and dominated the British middleweight wrestling scene on World of Sport and Wyatt Stanley raced F3 in the early 80s (came into it directly from karting?).

[cosworth bdg]

It's a real shame that EURO F2 was not run downunder..............

[David Beard]

Originally posted by ensign14
Wyatt Stanley raced F3 in the early 80s (came into it directly from karting?).

Not the usual 100cc karts though: he came from the gearbox 250cc jobs, which were capable of laptimes close to those of F3.

[Cirrus]

Marco Rocca took the nickname "Rollerball" and dominated the British middleweight wrestling scene on World of Sport

Didn't he drive a Cyanide Sid Cooper?

[Graham Gauld]

Reference Norman Dickson he is alive and well running the family motor business in Perth started by his father, ex-Lotus driver Tommy Dickson.
Andrew Fletcher lives just outside Edinburgh and has an interesting collection of cars including Alta F2, Alfa Tipo 33 and Chevron B16.
Gaudenzio Mantova was one of those characters who drifted into F2 on a shoestring. I remember being at Pau when he approached Norman Dickson about buying a spare gearbox. Dickson had two spares with him, a good one and a ropey one, he told his chief mechanic Colin Bennett to sell Gaudenzio the ropey one at a pretty serious price. Sadly it broke in the race but by that time we were on our way back to Scotland as poor Norman didn't qualify. Mantova came back into the news when he was truck racing, won a race at Silverstone then on the slowing down lap jumped out of his truck and ran away. I never found out if his truck was "bent" or whether he was charged with anything but Interesting guy.
John Cardwell is still a leading light in the BRDC and is normally seen at the Silverstone meetings.
I was told Irishman John L'Aime, who also used to race a Porsche 910, had died some time ago but am not sure.
Iain McLaren, another Scot, retired from racing to concentrate on his thriving BMC dealership. He then sold out the business and was last heard of in Ayrshire messing about in boats.

[Herbert]

Udo Wagenhäuser ran a team in the German Touringcar Chealleng (DTC), in 1994 his team graduated to the DTM with self-built BMW E36-class 1-cars. It was entered as WS (=Wagenhäuser) - DHL-Team.

[ghinzani]

Originally posted by Graham Gauld
Gaudenzio Mantova was one of those characters who drifted into F2 on a shoestring. I remember being at Pau when he approached Norman Dickson about buying a spare gearbox. Dickson had two spares with him, a good one and a ropey one, he told his chief mechanic Colin Bennett to sell Gaudenzio the ropey one at a pretty serious price. Sadly it broke in the race but by that time we were on our way back to Scotland as poor Norman didn't qualify. Mantova came back into the news when he was truck racing, won a race at Silverstone then on the slowing down lap jumped out of his truck and ran away. I never found out if his truck was "bent" or whether he was charged with anything but Interesting guy.

Graham did'nt he attempt to set light to his (I think) Volvo lorry on the slow down lap, then ran away? Classic!

[Andrew Fellowes]

Didn't Werner Linderman write off Brabham BT30-1 at Hockenheim on June 14th 1970 and yet F2R lists him as DNA, perhaps that should read DNS?

[Coogar]

Graham,
Sadly you're right about John L'Amie who did indeed pass away some years ago. However his son, Peter Guy L'Amie has contested a few Formula Ford races at Kirkistown, so perhaps we haven't heard the last of the name......
After his brief F2 appearance in Gerry Kinnane's Lotus 48, John ran a Porsche 910 in several sports car classics - Nurburgring 100ks, Monza etc, partnered by Brian Nelson - who also made at least one F2 appearance in the works Crossle, at Mallory Park I think.
Last month Brian made a 'one-off' return in a FF 'Masters' race at Kirkistown and looked pretty sporty for a lad of 67 !

[petefenelon]

Roy Baker ran Tigas in C2 for several years, through the WSPC and on into the British C2 championship IIRC. I've seen his team listed as "Roy Baker Racing", "Roy Baker Promotions" and even (possibly erroneously?) "Roy Baker Productions" - sounds like he was involved in the entertainment or PR business?

I think Roy might've acted as the de facto Tiga works team occasionally, too.

There's been an interesting thread on Biechteler, who seemed to do a lot of his racing with the mysterious/nefarious Klaus Walz.

I'm assuming John Wingfield is the same one who partnered Chris Lawrence a lot in the late 60s/early 70s and was sadly killed at Thruxton in a G8 race at Thruxton in '76?

[petefenelon]

> Jürg Lienhard

Primarily a showjumper! - his brother Fredy tends to partner Didier Theys in the Horag LMP2 Lola.

[2F-001]

Originally posted by petefenelon
> Jürg Lienhard...

And hardly 'unknown' after leading that wet International Trophy at Silverstone by almost two laps, if I remember correctly.

[Haine Kane]

Some informations for you Flatout911

Aldo BERTUZZI : b- 15 april 1961

Paolo BOZETTO : b- 13 january 1957 in Bassano del Grappa

Laurent-Georges FERRRIER : b-19 december 1946 in Geneve

Giancarlo GAGLIARDI : b- 26 december 1943 in Busto Arsizio

Corrado MAFREDINI : b- 21 november 1931 in Badia Polesine

Lionel NOGHES : b- ? but I find an article about him after his crash on the LE MANS track. He had burn in his car and his face was burned. If I refind this I give you more infos…

Jean-Pierre PAOLI : b- 3 may 1940

[Nanni Dietrich]

Franco Bernabei from Rome, had won the F.3 Italian Championship in 1968 in a Tecno. He drove the De Tomaso F.2 in 1969, then a Porsche in some WSC races in the 80s. His father Inico Bernabei was a famous sportscar driver in Italy in the 50s.

Fausto Morello I think is Fausto Me rello from Equador who raced two Surtees with team mate Guillermo Ortega.

"Shangrilà" look: http://forums.atlasf...920#post1741920

[Haine Kane]

Bernard CHEVANNES with "S" born 12 sep 1949 in Soissy-sous-Montmorency near Paris

[Ian McKean]

Originally posted by Coogar
Graham,
Sadly you're right about John L'Amie who did indeed pass away some years ago. However his son, Peter Guy L'Amie has contested a few Formula Ford races at Kirkistown, so perhaps we haven't heard the last of the name......
After his brief F2 appearance in Gerry Kinnane's Lotus 48, John ran a Porsche 910 in several sports car classics - Nurburgring 100ks, Monza etc, partnered by Brian Nelson - who also made at least one F2 appearance in the works Crossle, at Mallory Park I think.
Last month Brian made a 'one-off' return in a FF 'Masters' race at Kirkistown and looked pretty sporty for a lad of 67 !

Was Brian Nelson the fellow who rallied a lightweight BMW 2002? I met him before the Bushwhacker Rally in 1975; he had a very large house IIRC.

[Twin Window]

Originally posted by petefenelon

I'm assuming John Wingfield is the same one who partnered Chris Lawrence a lot in the late 60s/early 70s and was sadly killed at Thruxton in a G8 race at Thruxton in '76?

Is this the same John Wingfield, as in the Marshall-Wingfield car dealership (with Gerry Marshall)? Was it really as long ago as 1976 he died...?

> Jürg Lienhard

Primarily a showjumper! - his brother Fredy tends to partner Didier Theys in the Horag LMP2 Lola.

It was Jürg - as a complete unknown - who led the Silverstone F2 race in 1981, wasn't it?

[Richard Jenkins]

Originally posted by flatout911
Has anyone information or pics of these relatively unknown drivers ?

Julian Gerard

Son of Bob, the GP driver and entrant, Julian was born in Leicestershire.

I've got birth (and death) dates for a fair few you mentioned, but I think it's more biographical insight rather than dates you need, yes?

[Coogar]

Yes Ian, the same Brian Nelson. And that makes you the man with the MGB V8 rally car right ?

[ace woodington]

Julian Gerard is Bobs nephew not his son (I think) He still works in Leicester as a purveyor of previously used cars!! or did the last time I saw him.

[Stoatspeed]

Originally posted by Coogar
And that makes you the man with the MGB V8 rally car right ?

Well, this is a small world ... Ian, is/was your MG the white LHD development car originally bought from the works by Brian Field with his Harvest Gold car ....? HUD 576N, to make a stab at it ... or maybe 578N.
I spent many happy times with Brian at hillclimbs and rallies with that car, and also co-drove with him on a BP Economy Run in a "works" Allegro ( )

Dave

[swede917]

Cliff Hansen was a decent driver from Southern California were he had a large enough trust fund to support his racing. Starting with SCCA Fromula Fords and than selected Formula Atlantic Races here in the States and Canada in the late 70's to early 80's. Not sure were he is these days.
The same story is true of Don Breidenbach and John David Briggs who also ran in F2 in the late 70's, although they were from Northern California, if I'm not mistaken they transported their F2 Cars with an American Peterbuilt Transporter which was a big rig for Europe in those days.

[Alan Cox]

I remember the Briggs/Briedenbach Peterbilt truck, which, as you said swede, was a big rid for Europe in those days. IIRC it attracted more attention in the paddock than any of the F2 cars. I also seem to remember that they ran an informal race for the tractors at one meeting.

[Ian McKean]

Originally posted by Coogar
Yes Ian, the same Brian Nelson. And that makes you the man with the MGB V8 rally car right ?

I had no idea that Brian Nelson was a racer as well!

And yes, that was me.

[Ian McKean]

Originally posted by Stoatspeed


Well, this is a small world ... Ian, is/was your MG the white LHD development car originally bought from the works by Brian Field with his Harvest Gold car ....? HUD 576N, to make a stab at it ... or maybe 578N.
I spent many happy times with Brian at hillclimbs and rallies with that car, and also co-drove with him on a BP Economy Run in a "works" Allegro ( )

Dave

Wow! I had to open Paint Shop Pro and look at a picture to check the registration number. But you got it first stab. People keep remarking on the level of knowledge here, but this is ridiculous. I am a nonentity!

But mine was red. Funny, I thought Brian's was red as well. I first met him on the Tour of Epynt and he told me that the combined age of his navigator and himself was over 140. He looked quite a bit older than his navigator, but I didn't like to ask him the obvious question. I think he used an Offenhauser manifold and a Holley, and his car seemed pretty quick off the line. I think he was a retired ICI executive wasn't he?

Mine was one of 7 (I think) LHD USA prototypes. Here it is about to go a little banana-shaped.



Talking of economy runs, you would know John Kerswill from those days I assume. That's him in the B with me. We were on the Fleet World MPG Marathon last week.

[petefenelon]

Originally posted by Twin Window
Is this the same John Wingfield, as in the Marshall-Wingfield car dealership (with Gerry Marshall)? Was it really as long ago as 1976 he died...? It was Jürg - as a complete unknown - who led the Silverstone F2 race in 1981, wasn't it?

As far as I know, yes to (1) and yes to (2). Fredy was asked at last year's Silverstone 1000km about his performance there in the F2 in the wet - "That was my brother!"

[petefenelon]

Bob Marsland seemed to always be quite well-heeled - he drifted through Atlantics, Group 6 and F2 between about 72 and 81 or so without setting the world on fire and often seemed to have nice machinery.

For some reason I mentally associate him with Lola although he didn't seem to drive them (he seemed to favour Brabhams then Chevrons for a fair chunk of the 70s) - am I getting my wires crossed with Lola designer Bob Marston?)



A thread on 10/10ths says he came out of hillclimbing where he used to use an ex-works Reliant Sabre...

[Twin Window]

Originally posted by petefenelon

As far as I know, yes to (1) and yes to (2). Fredy was asked at last year's Silverstone 1000km about his performance there in the F2 in the wet - "That was my brother!"

Thanks; I'm glad to know I've not completely lost the plot just yet.

[FLB]

Originally posted by petefenelon


As far as I know, yes to (1) and yes to (2). Fredy was asked at last year's Silverstone 1000km about his performance there in the F2 in the wet - "That was my brother!"

That makes me wonder... Are the Bruno Frey mentioned in this thread and sometime CART driver Jean-Pierre Frey related?

[Graham Gauld]

Reference a few of the above :

The Briggs/Briedenbach Formula 2 programme. Peter Gethin was team manager and tells a wonderful story about going over to Las Vegas to meet David Briggs' mother who owned a casino. She virtually aquiessed to everything David wanted including a car for his friend Don Briedenbach. The Peterbilt truck was certainly impressive. I remember it from the race at Misano in 1978. I had been asked by Norman Dicksons father, Tommy Dickson the ex-Lotus driver, if I would "keep an eye on Norman" that season when he was running a March. At the time Colin Bennett was preparing the car and my son Lance, who must have been all of 14 at that time, used to come along and do the pit signalling. Lance Colin and I travelled in the ex-Toleman coach and arrived at Misano to see this enormous dark blue Peterbilt. Peter Gethin told me that it would cruise at 100mph with three race cars, tools and crew. On theway back from Misano we were tooling up a French autoroute at about 70 mph in our truck when there was an enormous blast of air horns and the Peterbilt came past us clearly running at close to 100 mph. Our coach shuddered as they went past so I don't know how a poor Frrenchman in a 2CV would have managed to stay on the road.

Also reference to Brian Nelson. He was a very good racing driver and raced mainly for John Crossle. He raced the V8 Daimler engined Crossle amongst other cars.

[fausto]

starting with these, more to follow, be patient please
Roy Baker: has someone said before endurance racing in the 80s. both as
driver and later team manager/owner, with Tiga cars, with the S2000 derived,
Ford Turbo powered GC284, then GC286 (among them the famous Pink Panther),
if I remember well he acted later as team manager for Nissan BTCC team (if
I'm not wrong, again, died some years ago, turn of the century)

Franco Bernabei: as Nanni Dietrich said was an Italian F.3 champion in the
60s, returned to racing in the mid-70s, racing a Porsche Carrera RSR,
sometimes with fellow roman Gianluigi Picchi (a former F.3 champion himself,
and a works Alfa Romeo touring car driver)

Aldo Bertuzzi: a heir of the Astra (manufacturers of "heavy duty"trucks)
family (Astra sponsored Piero Necchi, Arturo Merzario and others back in the
late 70s, early 80s), after F.2 did some WEC and F.3000 races

Paolo Bozzetto: from the Veneto region started racing with Formula Italia,
running at the front, as he did in Italian F.3, with March and Modus cars.
Returned to racing with historics, probably still competing, occasionally.

Roberto Campominosi: a strong competitor in Italian F.3 in the second half
of the 70s, disappeared from the scene after some racing with Merzario
(raced for his team in F.3 in the early 80s)

[rateus]

Bertuzzi didn't just stick to four wheels - I recall a comment in Autosport some time during his F3000 days to the effect that his car was being driven by someone else as it's regular pilot was off "playing powerboats".

[EDWARD FITZGERALD]

regarding Brian Nelson his F2 appearance was at Mantorp Park in the Crossle.

[ghinzani]

Originally posted by David Beard


Not the usual 100cc karts though: he came from the gearbox 250cc jobs, which were capable of laptimes close to those of F3.

Hang on, I'l just invite him in as he is still very much involved in Karting, of the Historic variety.

[petestenning]

Robert 'Bob' Ellice, Kim Mather, Adrian Russell, all ran in Formula Atlantic the 1st two at the start and Adrian later with a Lola . And i remember also John Lepp former sports car hero running in Formula Atlantic


Adrian Wilkins i remember racing in Formula Libre at Snetterton in a F2/Atlantic car in the wet running rings round all but John Jordans Mclaren .


Pete

[Frank de Jong]

It's pretty amazing the tread starter hasn't responded to all this information - but some threads are self-supporting it seems ;)
Wish my "Bergischer Löwe" thread had the same sort of succes

[Jeff Bellamy]

Franco Bernabei: Raced for the works De Tomaso team in 63 and diced with Bob Anderson for the lead of the Rome GP that year. It must have been the only time that a De Tomaso F1 ever challenged for the lead, and bear in mind that this car was fitted with a tuned Ford Anglia engine! Strangely it was the last time that Bernabei raced a De Tomaso F1 although he did race for them in endurance races, with little success. He surfaced again in 69 in a Matra F2 having spent the intervening years racing in Italy.

Regards

Jeff