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#1 djned

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 10:29

from the itv thread:

Originally posted by mikedeering
I have to moan about Allen's pronunciation of Robert Kubica. Brundle can get it right but Allen is intent on calling him KU-BIC-ER rather than KU-BIT-ZA. Not sure if he has been doing that all year - I didn't notice until yesterday.


that really irritated me this weekend. i'm sure before brazil they both used to say q-BITS-ah, but for whatever reason allen has changed to COO-bik-er. what is the correct pronunciation?

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#2 wingwalker

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 10:32

koo-bee-tza

(there was a page with drivers pronouncing their own names, but i can't find it)


edit: found it

#3 djned

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 10:47

hahaha, this site is a crack up. listen to mark webber's one. thanks wingwalker!

anyway, so the answer is COO-bit-sa...commentators take note :)

#4 fuz

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 10:50

Both Brundle and Allen pronounce it in different ways (In just about every race he's had) sometimes saying both types of pronounciation in the same sentence.

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 10:53

Originally posted by djned
hahaha, this site is a crack up. listen to mark webber's one. thanks wingwalker!

anyway, so the answer is COO-bit-sa...commentators take note :)


Don't expect the French to change.

Here we have for example:

"Shoomarreur"
"Briataw"

And Grands Prix such as "Saint-Marin"!

PdeRL

#6 jonpollak

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 10:55

It's kinda like the pronounciation of Bernie's wife's name..no?
SLAV-iitz-a

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#7 Dudley

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 10:58

The worst part is that James isn't "wrong" he's lazy.

About 25% of the time he gets it right.

#8 Foxbat

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 12:41

Originally posted by wingwalker
koo-bee-tza

(there was a page with drivers pronouncing their own names, but i can't find it)


edit: found it


Great fun :up:
Albers actually gives the english pronounciation of his name, as do Ralf and a couple of others. DC saying the worst was being called Ralf and Scott Speed's "pronounced Scott Speed" were so dry I had to laugh, too much fun really :rotfl:

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 12:45

Yes, those are English.

Kubica was on the Dutch SBS race preview (think it was China) and explained he didn't really mind, but that it was really pronounced like Tsj-oo-bi-tsj-a.

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 13:48

Allen when for both pronunciations during Sunday's race, seeming to be hopelessly indecisive.

Coincidentally, we have 2 different pronunciations for James Allen: "wan-ker" and "t-wat". Well, in my house anyway.

#11 united

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 14:03

Oh, my. I have always pronounced Neel Jani wrong :eek:

#12 SchuOz

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 14:07

Originally posted by RDM
Allen when for both pronunciations during Sunday's race, seeming to be hopelessly indecisive.

Coincidentally, we have 2 different pronunciations for James Allen: "wan-ker" and "t-wat". Well, in my house anyway.


:lol:

#13 Mauseri

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 14:20

I've been saying ku-bi-ca

k like kill
u like moon
b like brazil
i like eleven
c like carrot
a like amper

#14 djellison

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 14:44

Coo bits ah - that's the way it should be, the way MB's been saying it and the way JA has been saying it from time to time.

You forget the Olde-English way to say 'James Allen'

'Kock"

:)

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 15:57

Originally posted by fuz
Both Brundle and Allen pronounce it in different ways (In just about every race he's had) sometimes saying both types of pronounciation in the same sentence.


I noticed in Qually James "Stop The Cock" Allen was saying queue-bi-ka, in the pre-race build up he did a feature where it became queue-bitsa, then in the race he changed it back to queue-bi-ka.

The man truly is a cock.

#16 GrzegorzChyla

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 16:24

Originally posted by micra_k10
I've been saying ku-bi-ca

k like kill
u like moon
b like brazil
i like eleven
c like carrot
a like amper

allmost correct.
but in Polish c is pronounced as rather like tz
or like z in Monza (doubled in Regazzoni)

Grzegorz Chyla
(a Pole. I once in my youth made a bet with my friends that I will cut my hair bald when a Pole gets to F1. Fortunately I set a time limit so my hair are safe. But at the time I made this bet Robert's mother was just pregnant and I set a time limit to year 2000).

#17 Imperial

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 16:29

Originally posted by GrzegorzChyla

allmost correct.
but in Polish c is pronounced as rather like tz
or like z in Monza (doubled in Regazzoni)

Grzegorz Chyla
(a Pole. I once in my youth made a bet with my friends that I will cut my hair bald when a Pole gets to F1. Fortunately I set a time limit so my hair are safe. But at the time I made this bet Robert's mother was just pregnant and I set a time limit to year 2000).


I applaud you sir for still having hair after all these years ! :kiss:

Robert is what, 21?

I wouldn't bet too much that I would have much hair 21 years from now !!!!

#18 kamix

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 16:32

On the bright side he only has one pronounciation for Jenson Button, even if it sounds like he's creaming himself while he says it.

#19 GrzegorzChyla

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 17:22

Perhaps it is off-topic but I will share my best pronounciation memory.
I hope to manage to show it in writting.

I once asked a rally co-driver Dany Colebounders about pronounciation of his driver.

He replied:
In Spain he is pronounced Snee-khers, in Britain Snee-jeers (note: j pronounce as in jazz)
in Poland Snee-yers and he should be Sne-yers.

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#20 Juan Kerr

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 18:50

Originally posted by fuz
Both Brundle and Allen pronounce it in different ways (In just about every race he's had) sometimes saying both types of pronounciation in the same sentence.

Brundle changes each time though, he's doing it Kubica too. When Raikkonen first hit the scene he was calling him Rakkinen if he was doing well Rake-onen if he went across the grass and Rike-onen the rest of the time.
It is in fact Rai-ko-nen in three seperate parts

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 18:51

Originally posted by wingwalker
koo-bee-tza

(there was a page with drivers pronouncing their own names, but i can't find it)


edit: found it


Thanks for that, pity there's no Barichello entry. I pronounce it Barickello, whereas some say Barri-cello (Italian 'c', as the musical instrument). I've never been sure of the correct pronunciation.

The Coulthard entry is strange, unless my ears are playing up he pronounces it Coalthards (plural!?). In England it's either Cool-tard (not very flattering for a Monagasque driver) or Cool-thard.

#22 Orin

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 18:56

Originally posted by Juan Kerr
Brundle changes each time though, he's doing it Kubica too. When Raikkonen first hit the scene he was calling him Rakkinen if he was doing well Rake-onen if he went across the grass and Rike-onen the rest of the time.
It is in fact Rai-ko-nen in three seperate parts


He actually interviewed a novice Raikkonen in an attempt to score points over Murray's pronunciation:-

Martin: "Kimi, how do you pronounce your surname"
Kimi: "It's a little hard, but it sounds like Rye-ko-nen in English"
Martin, persisting: "That's Ray-Ko-nen, yeah?"
Kimi: "No, it's Rye-ko-nen"

I could just see Murray giggling at that one :D

Martin's pronunciation of Liuzzi makes my toes curl :o

#23 GrzegorzChyla

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 19:54

Originally posted by Juan Kerr
Brundle changes each time


I remember hearing his name pronounced by a Frenchman.
Bron-dol
with a very strong accent at 'dol'

Grzegorz
(a big fan of Martin)

#24 Haddock

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 20:21

I remember watching the champ car race while on holiday in France and being quite amused by the pronunciation of drivers names - Britain had two female drivers with "Kat-er-ine" and "Joosteen" and I can't remember quite how they murdered the pronunciation of Charles Zwolsman, but it wasn't pretty.;

#25 djned

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 20:37

haha OT but i saw england's first match in the world cup on tv in france as i was en route to germany. i still can't read about or watch joe cole without saying 'ZHO-col' out loud - all one word. classic.

#26 Scorg

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 20:37

I cant remember where I heard it, was either france or in spain but button was pronounced as "Booton"

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 20:41

I hear an outraged Graham Chapman declaring "No, no, no - it's spelt Robert Kubica, but it's pronounced 'Throatwobbler Mangrove'".

I like the differences in accents but I wish commentators would get the basic pronunciation right (eg. not give Nicholas Lapierre an audible 's').
And I wish drivers would stick to one pronunciation! Or say that there are several pronunciations and they are x, y, z....
I want to know that I'm roughly correct when I say 'Schumacher'.

#28 Exar Kun

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 22:19

I've always thought Bob Constanduras (sp?) did the best job pronouncing names but he only commentates at the track.

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 22:25

I'm not Polish and I don't understand the language but the question is simple: how do you say Kubica? easy.... FAST !!!!!!!

I like the guy. Another new gun to run 2008 with Heikki, Massa, Piquet Jr., Hamilton, Rosberg, Vettel, etc.

2008 is "the year"... we will probably not having DC, Rubens, Fisi, etc.... 2007 is a transitional year.

Cheers

#30 swaction

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 22:54

Originally posted by micra_k10
I've been saying ku-bi-ca

k like kill
u like moon
b like brazil
i like eleven
c like carrot
a like amper


I'm not a commentator, so no one can hear me say it - so I'm sticking with this one... This is how the Eurosport guys were pronouncing his name during the 2005 Macau GP (KEW-BI-KAH) ;)

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Posted 23 October 2006 - 23:36

Originally posted by Orin


Thanks for that, pity there's no Barichello entry. I pronounce it Barickello, whereas some say Barri-cello (Italian 'c', as the musical instrument). I've never been sure of the correct pronunciation.

The Coulthard entry is strange, unless my ears are playing up he pronounces it Coalthards (plural!?). In England it's either Cool-tard (not very flattering for a Monagasque driver) or Cool-thard.


You are right, like Barrickello, it's an Italian name. If it was Portugese would be like Barrishello. Barricello is not a choice.

edit: check for Fisico's name on the mentioned "Name That Driver" site (cool one indeed).

Ricardo

#32 Drifter

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Posted 24 October 2006 - 02:46

As far as Polish names go Robert Kubica is easy. I've worked with a couple of Polish guys and we used to just call them AS (Alphabet Soup) 1 & 2 :)

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Posted 24 October 2006 - 07:02

Originally posted by saudoso


You are right, like Barrickello, it's an Italian name. If it was Portugese would be like Barrishello. Barricello is not a choice.

edit: check for Fisico's name on the mentioned "Name That Driver" site (cool one indeed).

Ricardo


Thanks saudoso, so it's Italian in origin :)

#34 Gemini

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Posted 24 October 2006 - 09:09

Originally posted by Drifter
As far as Polish names go Robert Kubica is easy. I've worked with a couple of Polish guys and we used to just call them AS (Alphabet Soup) 1 & 2 :)


Kubica is easy, try to pronounce this one:

Brzeczyszczykiewicz :D

#35 SennasCat

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Posted 24 October 2006 - 13:20

The way James Allen says it, it sounds a lot like "PubicHair", or is it my dumb Aussie ears?? RDM is right - he is truly a tw@t....

#36 Mauseri

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Posted 09 February 2007 - 16:54

Wurz :lol:

http://namethatdrive...lect_driver.asp

#37 polaris

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Posted 09 February 2007 - 19:55

While living in Japan some years ago, before the days of cable tv there I had to endure f1 comentary in Japanese. I used to crack up every time I heard them try to pronounce mark bRundel and martin bLundel and work out who the hell they were talking about! :drunk:

#38 wrighty

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Posted 09 February 2007 - 20:07

Originally posted by djellison
Coo bits ah - that's the way it should be, the way MB's been saying it and the way JA has been saying it from time to time.

You forget the Olde-English way to say 'James Allen'

'Kock"

:)

Doug


rofl!!!!

#39 klover

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Posted 09 February 2007 - 20:10

Originally posted by djned
hahaha, this site is a crack up. listen to mark webber's one. thanks wingwalker!

anyway, so the answer is COO-bit-sa...commentators take note :)


I like Alonso's lengthy explanation, bloody Americans, calling him Alfonso :rotfl:

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#40 F1 Tor.

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Posted 09 February 2007 - 20:38

Fairuz "firehose" Fauzy- forget driving, do stand up comedy. :lol:

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Posted 09 February 2007 - 21:18

Originally posted by speedmaster
I'm not Polish and I don't understand the language but the question is simple: how do you say Kubica? easy.... FAST !!!!!!!


:up:

Cheers to that. Very entertaining site; thanks wingwalker.




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#42 pio!pio!

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Posted 09 February 2007 - 22:53

Sebastian Vettel's one is hilarious....the worst pronunciation is the French one LOL

#43 anjakub

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 21:14

Kubica in Poland has nickname Gargamel from magician from animated television series The Smurfs. Physical similarity.

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 21:45

ku-beet-sah

#45 Risil

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Posted 12 February 2007 - 18:05

Without wishing to be overly off-topic, it seems a little unfair that everyone's murdering James Allen over his pronunciation of Robert Kubica's name, when I'd be prepared to hazard a guess that the majority of us still stick to Murray Walker's famous mispronunciation/Anglicisation of Ay-eer-ton Senna.

Indeed, there was quite the outcry when Murray went back to the aforementioned 'correct' one, even, so he says, from the man himself.

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Posted 12 February 2007 - 22:25

I'm not Polish and I don't understand the language but the question is simple: how do you say Kubica? easy.... FAST !!!!!!!



I would say the more accurate pronunciation would be DOH - NUT. Despite all the hype, when you actually watch him drive, he does seem to spend more time spinning in circles than taking the driving line.

#47 Barry Boor

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Posted 12 February 2007 - 23:26

Best one I've heard was during a Champcar race last year where the American commentator was talking about a new driver to the series called Ing-gee.

It took me several minutes to realise he was talking about Thomas Enge! :lol:

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Posted 13 February 2007 - 11:44

Originally posted by polaris
While living in Japan some years ago, before the days of cable tv there I had to endure f1 comentary in Japanese. I used to crack up every time I heard them try to pronounce mark bRundel and martin bLundel and work out who the hell they were talking about! :drunk:

Reminds me of the sticker I saw once in Japan at a place a lived for a few days. Arrive alive. It was getting comical when different Japanese tried to say it.

#49 Ciao

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Posted 13 February 2007 - 19:12

too funny, "my name is Mark with a K obviously and Webbah!". Now I doubt it is pronunced the same in the UK....... :rotfl:

Thanks saudoso, so it's Italian in origin



Yeah, Rubens granfather is from Treviso, the North of Italy, not far from Venice.

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Posted 13 February 2007 - 19:33

Originally posted by anjakub
Kubica in Poland has nickname Gargamel from magician from animated television series The Smurfs. Physical similarity.


:rotfl: