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#1 Eddie Knipe

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Posted 06 November 2006 - 22:00

On the 5th March 2007, it will be the 30th anniversary of the untimely death of "Wales' fastest man". Surely it would be a fitting gesture - with permission from Tom's parents and wife, Fenella - to erect a statue in his honour.
He may be gone but he certainly is not forgotten, especially by those who knew him best and loved him.
I have written to the town council in his home town of Ruthin relating to the above. I eagerly await their response.
If anyone knows how I could contact Fenella (remarried surname McCallum) who is now living in France, please email me.
What are the thoughts of other Tom Pryce fans?
Roger Williamson and numerous other F1 aces have statues erected to their honour.
I know that Tom and his wife lived in Otford and later in Ightham in Kent, but surely, Ruthin, his place of birth could honour this true gentleman and role model for our youth.
A statue would not only evoke wonderful memories but also serve as an inspiration to those who visit his memorial.
Tom Pryce - Rest in Peace ..............

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Posted 06 November 2006 - 22:10

Great idea, Tom became firmly a "Man of Kent" ...or is it a "Kentish Man"? but I agree that a memorial in his place of birth would be very fitting, one cannot begin to imagine what he could have achieved. His star burnt very brightly but sadly not for long.

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Posted 06 November 2006 - 22:12

I would have thought that Brands Hatch - the scene of his only F1 victory, near his latter-day residences and close to his place of rest - would be the most appropriate site.

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Posted 06 November 2006 - 22:27

Quite true - the ideal spot for a memorial - Brands Hatch. I'm sure that there is no better place than the venue of his great victory. I shall await the Ruthin reply - failing a reply I am going to push for Brands Hatch. But, I want permission from those who loved him as a son and husband to give their blessing first. It would be only right to respect their thoughts first before the sentiments of his fans.

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Posted 06 November 2006 - 22:37

As a Man of Kent (born east of the River Medway) myself rather than a Kentish Man (born west of the River Medway), whilst Tom and his young wife enjoyed their time here, his roots were in Wales and I feel his relatives should make the decision as to where a memorial should be placed. I'm all for supporting the idea of a memorial plaque/statue/whatever. :up:

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Posted 06 November 2006 - 23:53

Even though I never saw him race, I was fan and did a detour to visit Ruthin in my one and only visit to Wales.

He deserves a tribute of some sort - near the top of the great potential talents we never saw develop.

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Posted 07 November 2006 - 00:54

Originally posted by Eddie Knipe
On the 5th March 2007, it will be the 30th anniversary of the untimely death of "Wales' fastest man". Surely it would be a fitting gesture - with permission from Tom's parents and wife, Fenella - to erect a statue in his honour.
He may be gone but he certainly is not forgotten, especially by those who knew him best and loved him.
I have written to the town council in his home town of Ruthin relating to the above. I eagerly await their response.
If anyone knows how I could contact Fenella (remarried surname McCallum) who is now living in France, please email me.
What are the thoughts of other Tom Pryce fans?
Roger Williamson and numerous other F1 aces have statues erected to their honour.
I know that Tom and his wife lived in Otford and later in Ightham in Kent, but surely, Ruthin, his place of birth could honour this true gentleman and role model for our youth.
A statue would not only evoke wonderful memories but also serve as an inspiration to those who visit his memorial.
Tom Pryce - Rest in Peace ..............


Eddie,
Bravo!

I commend your effort as these things are easy to discuss but very tough to accomplish.

No reason why Mr. Pryce and the others can not be captured here at "Our House"!

Henry

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Posted 07 November 2006 - 01:29

Eddie- I'm sure You could organize an online petition, which many TNF members (myself included- and I'm from Croatia) would be glad to sign. So You could send that to council in Wales, to show the worldwide appreciation of Tom's talents (and hinting they wouldn't like to be swamped by our letters). :)

#9 Eddie Knipe

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Posted 07 November 2006 - 07:17

Thank you to all of the above for the encouragement - I aim to set up a 'petition' and send it to the relevant authorities, but I do stress that Tom Pryce's family and his wife, Nella, will need to be contacted re. this intention. I feel that I shall need permission from them to pursue the matter further. Any assistance in contacting Nella or Tom's Mom and Dad would be appreciated.

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Posted 07 November 2006 - 08:46

Eddie

Why not contact David Tremayne through his publishers for that information?

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Posted 07 November 2006 - 08:51

This is a great idea.

However, having spoken at length to a teacher who was working in a Ruthin school at the time of Tom's career and untimely death, he was adamant that there was actually very little interest shown in Tom within the town.

I guess once he had upped sticks and moved to England his achievements would have been glossed over far more than had he been wearing a red shirt and been throwing around a funny-shaped ball.

Brands Hatch is the place for a statue.

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Posted 07 November 2006 - 12:38

Eddie,

Well Done !

As I was a fanatical F1 fan living in Wales, Tom was very much one of my heroes, I was lucky enough to witness first hand some of his early F1 races in Europe and marvelled at his (and Ronnie' s ) car control. And years later to own one of the Shadows he drove.

A lovely man too by all accounts.

I have forwarded this page to David Tremayne who has all the contacts needed so no doubt he will decide if he wishes to be involved.

David Force

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Posted 07 November 2006 - 13:11

Barry, I would have thought you had lived on Anglesey long enough to know that rugby football is very much a recent and minority interest in the North. If Tom Pryce had indeed worn the egg-chasers red jersey, he would have found himself on one of the shortest lists in sport - North Walians who played international Rugby.

I wonder how strong Tom's connections actually were with Ruthin? His father was, of course, a policeman and the family moved from place to place. Tom was seemingly born in the border village of Rossett - as was Shane Summers - and certainly spent much of his childhood in the village of Nantyglyn, which is near Denbigh not Ruthin. His mother's nursing home business was in Old Colwyn and he went to agricultural college in St Asaph. Is the Ruthin connection one of those instances where something gets repeated so often it becomes a fact?

As to a memorial - a marvellous idea - for Maldwyn Pryce, hopefully his parents and wife will advise on the most appropriate location.

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Posted 07 November 2006 - 14:23

As I've posted elsewhere I spent a weekend in Cardiff last month. A tour of the Capital's bookshops unearthed not a single copy of "The Lost Generation". Slightly more upsetting was the frequently asked question "Tom who? ".

I'm afraid that neither the North nor the South of the Principality displayed any great enthusiasm for Tom and his exploits even at the height of his career. I was in Cardiff on the day T.P died and the news caused no more than a blip in the post-match euphoria of Wales' latest defeat of England at the Arms Park.

So Brands it surely has to be. My vote would be for a statue someway away from the maddening crowd, so not on the steps of the Kentagon but up at the top of South Bank or similar, perhaps gazing in the general direction of North Wales. I think that would sum up the man...

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Posted 07 November 2006 - 14:37

Originally posted by bill moffat
I'm afraid that neither the North nor the South of the Principality displayed any great enthusiasm for Tom and his exploits even at the height of his career. I was in Cardiff on the day T.P died and the news caused no more than a blip in the post-match euphoria of Wales' latest defeat of England at the Arms Park.


This is all a bit disappointing, but not altogether surprising. I sometimes wonder if it would have been different if Tom was still with us, and had taken a couple of World Championships. Sadly, I suspect not, but then I'm no expert on the Welsh national psyche. Frustrated Welsh enthusiasts can hopefully take heart at the fact that Tom was loved and appreciated by so many of us English too.

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Posted 07 November 2006 - 16:40

Originally posted by bill moffat
As I've posted elsewhere I spent a weekend in Cardiff last month. A tour of the Capital's bookshops unearthed not a single copy of "The Lost Generation". Slightly more upsetting was the frequently asked question "Tom who? ".

Wouldn't you get the same reaction if you asked about Williamson or Brise in the non-specialist bookshops in the English capital, or even in Leicester?

I'm afraid I can't accept the viewpoint that Tom Pryce was somehow unappreciated in Wales, that's not my recollection. How long did his frontline F1 career last after all, less than 34 months, barely time to enter into the awareness of the general public. His star was certainly rising as he began to be interviewed on Welsh TV - in English and in Welsh - but of course that growing celebrity was cut short.

The practical place for a Tom Pryce memorial is probably Brands, my own more romantic choice would be Nant y Glyn, the proper choice must surely lie with his family.

#17 Eddie Knipe

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Posted 07 November 2006 - 22:20

Originally posted by David Force

Eddie,

Well Done !

As I was a fanatical F1 fan living in Wales, Tom was very much one of my heroes, I was lucky enough to witness first hand some of his early F1 races in Europe and marvelled at his (and Ronnie' s ) car control. And years later to own one of the Shadows he drove.

A lovely man too by all accounts.

I have forwarded this page to David Tremayne who has all the contacts needed so no doubt he will decide if he wishes to be involved.

David Force

David, thank you very much for that info - have read the book written by David Tremayne. Thank you for forwarding this page to him and I eagerly await his response.

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Posted 07 November 2006 - 23:46

I also contacted DJT, straight after my initial post on this thread.

So, between David and I, we should hear something shortly!

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Posted 08 November 2006 - 12:46

I have just received an answer to a letter/email I sent to the councillors of Denbighshire, North Wales a week ago:-

It reads -

"This enquiry has been forwarded to the Ruthin Town Council, with my recommendation that they consider doing something to recognise Tom Pryce. I have also raised it with the Ruthin Partnership who are a group who represent the interests of the town. They are keen for the Town Council to
consider it as well.
I am sure that the Council will respond to you directly but if you do not hear anything please let me know"

Regards
Sian
M.Sian Owen,
Rheolwr Datblygiad Tref / Town Development Manager

From the above, it would appear that there is interest in honouring Tom Pryce in Wales. Hopefully this will lead to something, but again, thanks to David and Stuart and all who are offering advice and getting info from relevant sources.

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Posted 12 November 2006 - 12:04

For those who are interested, I have written a lengthy letter to the Ruthin Town Council / Ruthin Partnership as has Sian Owen (Town Development Manager) and hopefully I shall receive some more info to post here soon.
I have also received one encouraging email from South Africa - people who remember Tom Pryce from the 1977 F1 Grand Prix at Kyalami and who had the privilege of meeting him during practice sessions prior to that fateful day. As has been the case with almost everything I have heard/read about Tom Pryce, they spoke highly of him and testified to his humble demeanour - a somewhat shy young man, yet quietly confident about the race ahead.
As stated before, any info relating to Tom Pryce's parents/wife - contact details - will be most welcome as I would like to contact them before I go any further.
Please write to: Eddie Knipe c/o The New Beacon, Brittains Lane, Sevenoaks, Kent, TN13 2JQ
Thank you sincerely

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Posted 12 November 2006 - 13:23

some photos of Tom at Kyalami during the practise days

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My last autograph from Tom, given just before the drivers parade on that fateful Saturday

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Posted 12 November 2006 - 14:13

Andrew, I hope you don't mind my posting this memory, "Fan Recalls Tom's Last Race" as written for BBC - North Wales Sport .......... Could I also send this to the Ruthin Town Council / Ruthin Partnership?

Fan recalls Tom's last race:-

Andrew Harris, a Welsh schoolboy living in South Africa, recalls meeting Tom Pryce at the fateful Grand Prix at Kyalami in 1977.


"Having emigrated with my family from Wales to South Africa in 1974, you learn to recognise and understand your true national identity. Being Welsh in Wales I had no real understanding or concept of any form of national identity; sure, we had the odd Englishman in our school but that was about it. My family was Welsh and my friends were Welsh and that was all I knew.

However on arrival in South Africa as a 12 year old, I soon realised that there were very few Welshmen or women around, there were none in my school and the only few I knew were friends of my parents, in these circumstances you very soon learn to appreciate your heritage.

In 1976 I went to the South Africa Grand Prix, it was my first motor race, the race being held at the Kyalami race track, which is just outside Johannesburg. I instantly developed a passion for the sport which I still hold to this day. Not knowing anything at all about Grand Prix racing, I was very pleasantly surprised to see a Welshman driving a black car called a Shadow, this Welshman being Tom Pryce. He had a great race, finishing well after having to stop for a puncture.

When the time came for the 1977 Grand Prix, I had been to every motor race at Kyalami since the '76 GP. I had learnt all the ways possible to slip into the pits or paddock area without being stopped by the marshals (there were no security guards in those days). I had followed the GP via newspapers and my weekly subscription to Autosport, which typically took six weeks to arrive by boat to South Africa.

The teams used to arrive at Kyalami about two weeks before the Grand Prix for an extended test session prior to the start of the European race programme. During this time I took the odd day or so off school to visit the track. On arrival I made a bee line to the Shadow pit to meet Tom, where I was very fortunate to meet with him, talk, take photos and get his autograph, the usual things you do when you meet your favourite sportsman. He seemed very relaxed and was looking forward to a good race as his testing was going well, he tended to spend most of his time when out of the car just sitting on the garage wall very quiet and relaxed.

The night before the race I camped at the track along with my father and a few of his Welsh friends and it was very much a party atmosphere. I don't know how much interest the adults had in the race, but I was prepared and excited. The following morning after the Grand Prix practice, armed with my latest version of Autosport, which covered the Argentinean race, I slipped off into the pits just before the driver parade. I managed to get quite a few autographs: James Hunt, Niki Lauda, Emerson Fittipaldi, Mario Andretti, Jody Scheckter and a few others as well as Carlos Pace who was sadly to be killed a week later in an air crash.

On walking up to Tom, I noticed there wasn't a photo for him to sign, the only space being an unidentified car in the background of a spinning Fittipaldi. Tom and I agreed that this could be him as he couldn't remember Fittipaldi spinning so Tom duly signed this.

He was very quiet but seemed relaxed and only smiled without saying anything when, in my best Welsh, I said, 'Diolch i chi' (one of the few Welsh phrases I knew). He was the last driver I met that morning; that autograph must have been one of the last he ever signed. As he was preparing to get into his car for the drivers' parade I ran back to our seats which were at Jukskei corner, a few hundred metres from the pits. We all yelled and waved when Tom came past, one in our group had a Welsh flag, Tom waved back. I had been following Tom through the race and although he seemed to have had a bad start he was slowly moving up the field.

I immediately realised that Tom was out of the race when he did not come around as expected. From the top of the small stand that I was in you could look up to Crowthorn corner. Crowthorn was the first corner after the long straight and you could clearly see all the marshall activity, yellow flags etc. I was automatically disappointed that Tom had crashed but only when the ambulance came slowly around the track did anyone get the feeling that this could be serious.

Slowly the news that Tom had died filtered around the track. To say I was upset was an understatement. Only later that night on the news and in the newspapers the next day did I learn about the full horror of the way in which Tom died along with the young fire marshall. Although drivers died quite often in the '70s it was the first time that anybody I met or knew had been killed in an accident; Tom was and still remains the only Welsh GP driver I ever knew. "

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Posted 12 November 2006 - 22:09

A very moving piece Andrew, I never had the privledge of meeting him, but saw him at the Race of champions in very wet practice! Many years later when out on a long walk with some friends I came across Toms final resting place in Otford, I stayed a while on my own and thought about him. Have never done anything like that before or since? Dont really know why I felt like that.

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Posted 14 November 2006 - 09:43

Know what you mean -
It was a moving experience when I found his grave whilst walking in the grounds of St Bartholomew's Churchyard in Otford. I have lived in the area for almost four years before I found out quite by accident where my favourite F1 driver of the mid-70's had been married, lived and buried - Otford.
Also spent some time there thinking about what could have been. Just seeing those words on his gravestone, "tragically killed in the South African Grand Prix 1977" brought back my own recollections of the 5th March 1977.

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Posted 16 November 2006 - 10:35

For those who have emailed and asked to be kept informed re. matters relating to a possible memorial to Tom Pryce; here is a reply I received from Sian Owen, Town Development Manager - this assistance is gratefully appreciated:-

"Dafydd,
Please could you send a reply to Eddie Knipe to let him know what the Town
Council have decided re. this suggestion. I know the Ruthin Partnership are
supportive of doing something to recognise Tom Pryce,
Please let me know what you decide
thanks
Sian
M.Sian Owen,
Rheolwr Datblygiad Tref / Town Development Manager"

But, and again this is a big but; I am going to need some details re. contact info for Tom's parents and for Nella. I am still awaiting replies to mailed requests to relevant sources.
As any proposal always takes time, any further assistance besides that which I have already so kindly received will be most welcome.

Perhaps a good many more additions to this thread could go a long way in assisting the cause.

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Posted 16 November 2006 - 17:06

Perhaps a good many more additions to this thread could go a long way in assisting the cause.


Although far from this location our group is prepared to help in any manner possible.

These types of things accomplish two very important facts.

First , the individual or place is honored and second , people who may not know are educated.

The second goal is almost as important as the first.

I am prepared to help as directed. Just let me know.

Henry

#27 Eddie Knipe

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Posted 16 November 2006 - 17:12

Thanks Henry and also to Ken Jones for contact details. Have written to Mr and Mrs Pryce today and received the following communication from Ruthin Town Clerk:-

Dear Mr Knipe

I confirm that I have received both your e-mails through Sian Owen.

The matter will be discussed by the full Town Council at their meeting on
Monday 27 November 2006 and I will let you know what they decide.

Sincerely

Dafydd Williams
Clerc y Dref / Town Clerk
Cyngor Tref Rhuthun / Ruthin Town Council
Neuadd y Dref / Town Hall
Rhuthun / Ruthin
LL15 1AS

Moving forward .....................

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Posted 16 November 2006 - 17:26

Originally posted by Eddie Knipe
Thanks Henry and also to Ken Jones for contact details. Have written to Mr and Mrs Pryce today and received the following communication from Ruthin Town Clerk:-

Dear Mr Knipe

I confirm that I have received both your e-mails through Sian Owen.

The matter will be discussed by the full Town Council at their meeting on
Monday 27 November 2006 and I will let you know what they decide.

Sincerely

Dafydd Williams
Clerc y Dref / Town Clerk
Cyngor Tref Rhuthun / Ruthin Town Council
Neuadd y Dref / Town Hall
Rhuthun / Ruthin
LL15 1AS

Moving forward .....................


Eddie, though perhaps not as important to race fans, there are also economic advantages to the local economy!

Henry

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Posted 16 November 2006 - 17:53

Originally posted by Eddie Knipe


Perhaps a good many more additions to this thread could go a long way in assisting the cause. [/B]


Sorry for being so slow to see this thread.

Utterly brilliant idea for a memorial to Tom (subject to the wishes of the family).

As I have stated before he was a big hero of mine.

Geoff

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Posted 17 November 2006 - 02:44

A superb cause. I'm too young to have ever witnessed Tom race but my dad provided me with a thorough racing education. Best of luck. You have my full support and if there's anything I can do I'd be more than willing.

#31 Eddie Knipe

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Posted 21 November 2006 - 08:17

Gary - thanks a million for the copy of 'WALES' FASTEST MAN'. Much appreciated!

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Posted 21 November 2006 - 16:44

No problem!

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Posted 21 November 2006 - 17:39

I agree with KJJ and feel that Bill Moffatt is not quite correct. Tom was recognised in Wales and whilst Rugby was then very much the religion there was an awareness of what he was doing.

In fact news of Toms death was broadcast directly from the Arms Park ground during the rugby programme that fatefull afternoon and although brief I felt they did give due rcognition to this other Son of Wales.

Lets keep the momentum up on this one it is such a good cause, Eddie need support.

For all Tom's fans keep May 20th free next year...

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Posted 21 November 2006 - 20:48

Eddie, Ty Croes circuit in Anglesey is currently being redeveloped with extra corners, amongst other things. Have you thought of contacting them about getting a corner (or something else) named after Tom?



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#35 Eddie Knipe

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Posted 21 November 2006 - 22:00

John, how appropriate and a fitting name to be considered/added for the new track - will definitely be looking into this as well. Once again - to all Tom Pryce fans - thanks for your support.

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Posted 24 November 2006 - 22:02

:(
what a sad story.
I remember Tom Pryc as a young and brilliant driver, I'm italian, not welsh, but I think he should be Champion of the World in few years if he not had been so unlucky.
A great young champion, we should remember him and his short but so brilliant life.
RIP

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#37 Eddie Knipe

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Posted 26 November 2006 - 23:43

Monday, 27th November 2006 - the day that the Ruthin Town Council sits and debates whether they are to honour Tom Pryce next year - 5th March 2007. I am holding thumbs that they are willing to go ahead with such an honour. I am going to be contacted after this meeting and I shall post the outcome asap. I am still waiting for Mr Pryce (Tom's Dad) to contact me - only posted a letter a week and half ago re. the family's wishes. Hopefully the Ruthin Town Council has also contacted Mr and Mrs Pryce and Fenella in France. Nothing is to be proposed without their consent as stated before.

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 00:10

I've just been pointed in the direction of this thread by a friend of mine. I was formerly registered here as dbalban but I haven't visited in quite some time and I have forgotten the password to that username/account and the email I used to register isn't used anymore and I don't have access to it.

Anyway, some of you may remember me as dbalban and remember that a few years ago I was trying to set up a website to commemorate Tom and his achievements, unfortunately I suddenly found myself without any spare time to finish the project.

Although I am only 25 years old I am an avid Tom Pryce fan even though he is no longer with us. He is somewhat of a homeland hero for me and I share many of his personality traits being a quiet Welshman who's very shy and devoted to motorsport. Hearing about this memorial was a joy for me, I had allready thought about visiting Otford in March next year to pay my respects and so a memorial for Tom on the 30th anniversary would deffinately be a "not to be missed" opportunity. Had I realised this thread was here earlier than now I could have helped with getting in contact with Tom's parents as I still have a handwritten letter from Tom's father that he sent to me when I contacted him with respect to the website/archive I had tried to set up.

I would absolutely love to see a fitting memorial made for Tom, having read David Tremayne's The Lost Generation there would be nothing better than to see something to remember Tom.

Keep us updated with the progress on this, great work.

Bryn.

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Posted 29 November 2006 - 23:22

On Friday I may well get to meet Mr. Peacock who owns the Anglesey circuit.

If I do, I will certainly raise the idea of a Pryce Corner on the newly extended circuit.

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Posted 30 November 2006 - 01:50

Barry, that is very good news!

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#41 Eddie Knipe

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Posted 30 November 2006 - 21:05

Communication from Ruthin Town Council, received Thursday, 30th November:-

Dear Eddie Knipe

The Town Council discussed this at their meeting on Monday night - there
was much interest and an article appeared in the local Press yesterday.

It has been decided that 2/3 of the Town Councillors will research the
matter further and will report back to the Town Council meeting in January.

Will keep you advised

Dafydd Williams
Clerc y Dref / Town Clerk


I sent an email re. Anglesey Circuit - 'Pryce Corner' last week, but have received no reply so super if you could put forward a request to Mr Peacock Barry.

Could anyone living in the Ruthin - Denbighshire area, please post a copy of the article which appeared in the local press about Tom Pryce (Tuesday or Wednesday) or alternatively, send me a copy of the newspaper. I really would appreciate this and will reimburse postal costs.

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Posted 30 November 2006 - 21:25

The newspaper article you are looking for can be found here

http://www.denbighsh...reepress.co.uk/

#43 Eddie Knipe

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Posted 30 November 2006 - 21:40

Thank you so much Bill - very helpful!
Barry, I have also sent a Fax to Mr Peacock. Hopefully this will also lend some assistance if you do speak to Mr Peacock on Friday.

#44 Eddie Knipe

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Posted 30 November 2006 - 21:43

DENBIGHSHIRE FREEPRESS ARTICLE:-

Town plans tribute to tragic race ace


PLANS are in the pipeline to pay tribute to a Vale of Clwyd Formula One driver on the 30th anniversary of his death.

Ruthin Town Council has formed a committee to look into producing a tribute to F1 driver Tom Pryce who was tragically killed in South Africa in 1977.

Pryce, the son of a policeman, started his driving career in 1970 when he won a Lola FF1600 car in a Daily Express competition. He honed his skills through F3 and moved into F1 in 1974 after Brian Redman’s withdrawal from the Shadow Team.

Pryce won the non-title Brands Hatch Race of Champions and claimed pole position at the British Grand Prix in 1974. His best drives came with a third at the Austrian GP in 1975 and another third at the 1976 Brazilian GP.

Pryce was killed in 1977 while racing at Kyalami, South Africa, when he collided with a marshal who was walking across the track. A fire extinguisher carried by the marshal hit the visor of the driver and the Shadow carried on, crashing into a barrier.

Cllr Murray Bragg this week said that the town council had contacted Prodrive boss David Richards, of Ruthin, in 2004 and he had supported a tribute to the F1 driver, suggesting part of the Ynys Mon circuit be named after the ace.

Although the council then contacted the circuit to ask it to name a corner after Pryce, the council has now decided to look closer to home to provide a tribute to the F1 driver.

#45 Barry Boor

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Posted 30 November 2006 - 23:04

If Dave Richards has been contacted regarding the Anglesey circuit matter I doubt that any comment from me will carry any weight with Mr. Peacock.

Knowing that Eddie has contacted him and that Dave Richards has/plans to, may cause anything I might say to be irrelevant and possibly even over-egging the pudding.

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Posted 01 December 2006 - 12:48

Great news and all credit to Eddie and those others for keeping the momentum going.

I have forwarded the newspaper link to David Tremayne.

I think we could all well understand that the Ruthin council would be more supportive of something in their town which would also bring interested folk to the locality rather than something on Anglesey.

If I might make a suggestion it is that those of us interested put all our efforts and enthusiasm behind one idea rather than see it dissipated over a number and therefore lessening the impact. Its hard enough to get united support from town councils for anything so perhaps we should get behind the ruthin memorial ? Its not my decision so what does Eddie think ? :cool:

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Posted 02 December 2006 - 20:01

David, I couldn't agree more. I somehow think that my enthusism to see this through to fruition has perhaps got the better of me. In retrospect, the focus should very well be on Tom's hometown considering that his Mom and Dad are still residents in the area. What an honour it would for this well-respected Welshman to be honoured at home. Thank you for your sound advice.

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Posted 07 December 2006 - 10:31

hello again - it's been a while.
I'm James, the man behind the BBC site http://www.bbc.co.uk...tom_pryce.shtml, as very kindly referenced by Eddie.
i think we have to realise that the level of motorsport interest in wales is approximately nil. In south Wales, rugby flourishes, and in north Wales it's football which holds sway.
Councils are keen to commemorate sporting and political heroes in Wales, but only if people have heard of them! I would doubt there's a great appetite for spending a few thousand pounds for casting Tom in bronze, unfortunately.
That's not to say that I don't think he shouldn't be commemorated in Wales - and for the sake of argument, Ruthin!
How about the council or local businesses set up a Tom Pryce award to encourage local kids to achieve in the field of sport or something? A small financial help for young people?

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Posted 07 December 2006 - 11:19

I see someone else has similar views to myself.

See post #11.

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Posted 07 December 2006 - 16:56

Originally posted by mclaren_jk
hello again - it's been a while.
I'm James, the man behind the BBC site http://www.bbc.co.uk...tom_pryce.shtml, as very kindly referenced by Eddie.
i think we have to realise that the level of motorsport interest in wales is approximately nil. In south Wales, rugby flourishes, and in north Wales it's football which holds sway.
Councils are keen to commemorate sporting and political heroes in Wales, but only if people have heard of them! I would doubt there's a great appetite for spending a few thousand pounds for casting Tom in bronze, unfortunately.
That's not to say that I don't think he shouldn't be commemorated in Wales - and for the sake of argument, Ruthin!
How about the council or local businesses set up a Tom Pryce award to encourage local kids to achieve in the field of sport or something? A small financial help for young people?


In the BBC site Mr.MT wrote about the marshall Janssen Van Vuuren that died in the Pryce crash too.
He edited anothers four marshalls in similar situation:
2C Jean-Patrick Hien, Gary Avrin, Graham Beveridge, Paulo Ghislimberti

Does anyone know where and when occurs the accident with these marshalls?

Obrigado,
Sergio Sultani.