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[brickyard]

Hi all,

I'm updating my site, and I'm trying to find out the chassis number of a Porche 906 that raced here in Portugal from 1969 to 1972.

Facts:

1) It was used by Jeff Edmonds in 1968 in some UK Sport Cars Championship races and at the Brands Hatch and Spa 1000kms.

2) In 1969 it was used by Nick Gold in the UK Championship and some international events including our Vila Real race where Gold shared the wheel with Filipe Nogueira who damaged the car and bought it from Gold after the race.

3) It was then used by Nogueira until 1971 and was then sold to Americo Nunes who became 1972 National Champion on it.

Any ideas?

BTW, it wasn't "906 130" or "906 126" which were used by other portuguese racers in those years.

Thank you all

[brickyard]

I'm stuned!

After a long search on the net, and some magazines, I still can't find anything about this car.
Even more confused after reading on L'Automobile Magazine's "BOAC 500" and "Nurburgring 100km" reports that Gold's car was a 910 not a 906.
And no photos either!

[ray b]

on the subject of 906 cars

on a local craigslist a repo and wreck sellor
claims to have a 906 for sale

unsure if it is a scam or not

[Rosemayer]

It seems to be a 910 Porsche

www.wsrp.wz.cz/intgb1969.html

[brickyard]

Originally posted by Rosemayer
It seems to be a 910 Porsche

www.wsrp.wz.cz/intgb1969.html

Yes it seems. But here it's a 906.

[brickyard]

Just a little information gathered this morning.

The car didn't have the two small front spoilers above the lights...

[RAP]

The entry in the programme for the 1969 BOAC for #23 was Spotscars Switzerland Brostrom/Gregory Porsche 910 but in fact the entry was taken over by N Gold, co-driving with J Fernandez in a 906. I was at the meeting and this is how I marked up my programme on the day.

I did not attend the 1.9.69 Brands meeting but the Autosport report says "Nick Gold was down to drive in his first race in his Porsche 910, the ex-Brostrom chassis rebuilt be Charles Lucas. "

So both entries in www.wspr are right. Can't help with the chassis number.

[brickyard]

Thank You RAP.

I did not attend the 1.9.69 Brands meeting but the Autosport report says "Nick Gold was down to drive in his first race in his Porsche 910, the ex-Brostrom chassis rebuilt be Charles Lucas. "

The Vila Real race was before the B. Hatch meeting so Gold didn't have the 906 anymore and had to buy the 910.

I've heard that Gold was very upset with Nogueira after his crash and the portuguese driver had to buy the wrecked car in order to calm down Gold's fury.

Is there any reports from the Vila Real meeting on Autosport? With so many british drivers/cars there, I supose the british journalists covered the event, or I'm wrong?

[RAP]

Yes Autosport carried a 3 page report - by some youngster called Doug Nye !! If you want to PM me an e mail address I will scan for you.
RAP

[brickyard]

Originally posted by RAP
Yes Autosport carried a 3 page report - by some youngster called Doug Nye !! If you want to PM me an e mail address I will scan for you.
RAP

Thank You RAP.

Check your e-mail, please.

[brickyard]

Well, after more than two years, I'm still looking for this one.

Any new infos?


Regards
Luis

[Rob Semmeling]

Although written in German, you may want to take a look at the recently published book "Porsche 906" by Jurgen Barth & Ulrich Trispel.

Motorbuch Verlag 2008
448 pages, 627 b&w photos, 493 colour photos
230 x 265 mm, bound
ISBN: 978-3-613-02961-3
69.90 EUR

[brickyard]

That's a good tip Rob.
But unfortunately I haven't this book. Any member who have it would care to take a look?

Thanks
Luis Mateus

[Formula Once]

I got it and will check it.

[brickyard]

Originally posted by Formula Once
I got it and will check it.

Thank you Formula Once

Regards
Luis Mateus

[andydolermo]

Hello Brickyard,

At Silverstone Martini Trophy 1969 the car was a definaltely a 906, not a 910. They modified (or maybe just even taped) the headlight in order to make it look like a 910 but it was a 906. At Brands Hatch 1000 Kms in 1970 it looked like a real 910, even if the enormous rear wheels make me think of the 906 chassis more than a modified 910. Am I making sense?
What about the car being a 906 and being later rebuilt as a 910?

[brickyard]

Originally posted by andydolermo
Hello Brickyard,

At Silverstone Martini Trophy 1969 the car was a definaltely a 906, not a 910. They modified (or maybe just even taped) the headlight in order to make it look like a 910 but it was a 906. At Brands Hatch 1000 Kms in 1970 it looked like a real 910, even if the enormous rear wheels make me think of the 906 chassis more than a modified 910. Am I making sense?
What about the car being a 906 and being later rebuilt as a 910?

Hello Andydolermo,

the Martini Trophy was in May and Vila Real in July. And Gold shared the car with Nogueira at Vila Real and it was a 906, not a 910. And since Nogueira damaged the car, he bought the car from Gold. I'm not sure if Gold get himself a 910 after or before Vila Real, but one thing is sure, after Vila Real he always raced a 910.


Regards
Luis

[r.atlos]

Looks like 906-133 was your candidate.

[mx906]

Hi,

I believe that Gold's 906 was 906-133. 906-133 definitely did go to Portugal and then Angola. I'll try to post a few pages covering 906-133 from my book.

Jerry Pantis

[mx906]

I'm not able to post PDFs but here's a summary of what I have for 906-133 after it left the US in '66 and before it returned.

Jerry Pantis


After '66, 906-133 was sold to Geoffrey Edmonds in England. He ran the car at the Brands Hatch Six Hours in '68. It was then sold to Nick Gold. With Juan Fernandez co-driving, it was a DNF at the Brands Hatch Six Hours in '69. Later, it was withdrawn from the '69 'Ring 1000 KM. And then Joaquim Felipe Noguiera had a pretty big crash with the car at Vila Real in '69.

Subsequent to the crash at Vila Real, 906-133 was sold to Noguiera. He repaired the car and then raced it in Portugal in '70 and '71. After the '71 season, it was sold to Americo Nunes. Nunes raced 906-133 successfully in Portugal, becoming the “Portugese Speed Champion” in '72. Races that he ran in included Vila Real, Vila do Conde, Estoril, and Rampa da Penha.

After an event at Mocamedes, Angola in '73, Nunes sold 906-133 to Herculano Areias in Angola. Areias was the President of Team Tuku-Tuku, a very active racing club that held events at Mocamedes and other tracks in Angola. 906-133 would remain in Angola until the mid-'80s.

[Formula Once]

OK, so I finally had time to flip through Barth's superb book on the 906...

133 was delivered on April 6 1966 to POAC Teanack (NY). Motor Car GTS then sold it to Schröder Import in Miami for whom Charlie Kolb drove in 1966. Fred Baker (boss of Tonka) bought the car for 1967b but hardly raced it. Alain de Cadenet and Geoffrey Edmonds brought the car to Europe in 1968 and raced it primarily in the UK. A year later the car was sold to Nicholas Gold. In the 1969 Villa Real race co-driver Nogueira crashed it and bought the car from Gold who went on to buy and repair a crashed 910, while Nogueira repaired the 906 and sold it to Americo Nunes. The now yellow-green car was raced in Portugal until 1972 before it was sold to Herculano Areias in Angola (after the Mocamedes race there). It was only once raced by Areias (in the Beguela 500 km). It then got lost before it appeared again in 1985, when Phil Bagley brought it back to the US where it was restored by Kevin Jeanette for new owner Tom Shelton, who painted it red (not knowing much of its history). Shelton sold the car to Ed Mettleman. Since then it has been sold 4 times and put back into its original red/brown metallic color. Now owned by Cyril Rocher of Switzerland. In 2000 a replica 906/133 was offered for sale at race-cars.com

The book has all the races it competed in/was entered for listed.

[David Birchall]

I think you mean 906/133, not 130 which also had a Portugese racing history.

[mx906]

Fred Baker was actually the son of Tonka's CEO. He bought Bruce Schroeder Imports early in '67 and inherited 906-133 with it. He would in fact buy 906-157 for '67 and never raced 906-133. It appears that 906-133 left the US with Porsche's Werkes cars after Sebring in '67.

It would stay in Angola from the early '70s to the mid-'80s, close to the "Black Widow" Alfa 33/2.

906-133 was bought by Benoit Couturier in '02 and was re-restored with a combination of two of its original paint schemes, a mix of the white doors it had for the bulk of the '66 season and the white stripes that it had at Nassau later that year. In Europe, Benoit towed the car with a paint-matching Ford Ranchero just like the one used in '66.

Also, PoAC was in Teaneck, New Jersey (not NY).

I have a photo of the car from the mid-'80s with "Team Tuku-Tuku" stickers on it. If anyone is interested, send me an email at jpantis@hotmail.com and I'll send you a copy.

Jerry

[Formula Once]

Yeah of course, 133

[brickyard]

Thank you friends, another mistery solved.
This one I was looking for years.
BTW Jerry, the correct spell is Nogueira.

Regards
Luis