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#51 dde

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Posted 02 January 2007 - 18:53

Originally posted by Menace


Looks right to me. Mika was considerably quicker then Schumacher in comparison vs. Brundle IIRC.


Is it a joke ?

Via Brundle, MS showed to be 0.3s faster. At least. MS being still a rookie, of course.

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#52 nestor

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Posted 02 January 2007 - 19:47

Originally posted by klover


Selective memory indeed. You remember the voice yet you conveniently ignore the fact. It transpired after the race that Fisi's problems were even more severe and his pace was actually pretty good. If you seriously think that any F1 driver is 2 sec faster than his peers in equal machinery, you must be dreaming.


OF course it is obvious that Fisi had some kind of problem with the car, as matter of fact , they confirmed after the race, that indeed there was a problem with his car , but my point is that Fisi wasn't helping at all , as far as i know , the problem was minor , and that's why the guy was yelling him to push .

Also i know that there is no such thing as 2 secs of diference between to F1 top drivers , but what i do believe is that in qualy , there is a least 3 tenths diference between FA and Fisi , and at least 8 tenths in race trim, althougth fisi can bring down that diference at least 5 tenths when thing works for him or he has a car of his liking, **** he can even beat FA if everything go absolutely perfect, the problem is that it doesn't or didn't happen so often.

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Posted 04 January 2007 - 11:05

I agree with Brundle, a lot of these drivers don't have personalities and have adopted the Schumacher stance towards the media. They are so dour. I do like DC's throwaway comments :lol:

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Posted 04 January 2007 - 11:19

Originally posted by Dalton007
I agree with Brundle, a lot of these drivers don't have personalities and have adopted the Schumacher stance towards the media. They are so dour. I do like DC's throwaway comments :lol:

I think it is the situation itself that forms them, not any kind of Schumi complex.
The press conference always look the same - the best three sitting at a table on a small podium, the (always he same) journalists and photograpers all trying to get a piece of them. TV cameras, microphones, flashes and desperate journous are enough to make most young men, and young women, quite reserved.

#55 angst

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Posted 04 January 2007 - 11:21

Originally posted by Clatter


His race engineer had all the info regarding the state of Fisi's car available in front of him, he would not have made that call from a position ignorance, he knew Fisi was slow.


If it's the race I'm thinking of then it was a damaged underbody/diffuser that was causing Fisi major problems. Quite how his race engineer would have the data on that during the race is a question worth pondering - quite amazing what the F1 teams can can discover by telemetry isn't it?

#56 Zmeej

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Posted 05 January 2007 - 04:58

Brundle is really saying that he wants a Villeneuve comeback. :cool:

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Posted 05 January 2007 - 10:37

Originally posted by Jacquesback


I think you mean "insight" and "Finnish". Perhaps you should stick to a forum that communicates in your own first language as you clearly possess fourth grade english skills.


I think you should at least try to get to fourth grade in any foreign language before making a completely misplaced comment like this! :down:

#58 Zmeej

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Posted 05 January 2007 - 21:03

Beamer :up:

#59 Spunout

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Posted 06 January 2007 - 02:21

Originally posted by Beamer


I think you should at least try to get to fourth grade in any foreign language before making a completely misplaced comment like this! :down:


:up:

Based on that comment Jacquesback should have first gotten to fourth grade in any subject before even registering here.

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#60 Jacquesback

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Posted 08 January 2007 - 01:34

Originally posted by Beamer


I think you should at least try to get to fourth grade in any foreign language before making a completely misplaced comment like this! :down:


Perhaps when Mipe can rid himself of his belief that North American sport stars only possess "forth grade oratory skills" and stop his germanic eurocentric elitism bigoted comments, then I will also stop making misplaced comments.

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Posted 08 January 2007 - 01:50

Originally posted by Jacquesback


Perhaps when Mipe can rid himself of his belief that North American sport stars only possess "forth grade oratory skills" and stop his germanic eurocentric elitism bigoted comments, then I will also stop making misplaced comments.

That' going to be difficult, notwithstanding the fact that I admit misspelling both words, as you had pointed out.

#62 Zmeej

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Posted 11 January 2007 - 06:01

North American sport stars only possess "forth grade oratory skills"

What's wrong with that? :confused:

Confirmed daily. :p

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#63 PassWind

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Posted 11 January 2007 - 06:27

Originally posted by Lifew12


Well I think that it may have a lot to do with the fact that, before the 'Schumacher era' drivers just seemes so much more interesting than they do since. I think the added point that every other post-race interview since the early 90#s has featured Michael has something to do with it, too.

had it been Bob Smith who had won 90 races and been interminably boring when talking about them, I would have been him, not Michael, I was castigating; as it happens, Schumacher remains the example of how not to excite an audience when speaking.

You may be a big fan, and of his driving so am I, but he's boring; full stop.




Well if you have to try and come up with 90+ interesting ways to explain in a second language how happy you are about winning then you may risk becoming boring to the average punter as well. MS was business from start to finish maybe its a key ingredient as to why he is so successfull and other drivers are attempting to stay as focused, mimickry of those sucessful is a world known not restricted to F1.

All fairly simple, and that he may come across as boring, which actually makes a journalist work for his supper is of little consequence to the fans frankly.

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Posted 11 January 2007 - 12:35

Originally posted by MiPe
I would like to see Brundle speaking to German press (in German, should they be actually interested to talk to him at all) after the race, especially had he experienced some traumatic conditions on the track just minutes prior a microphone gets stuffed into his face. Maybe in moments like these he would find out, that short sentences are the safest way how to satisfy protocol, and yet stay out of the danger for being misunderstood or misquoted, especially when you don’t want to talk to anyone at all, and/or are lacking words to describe your condition. MS had made mistake in trying to answer questions in Jerez in foolish believe, that anyone would be sympathetic to his condition, and he had learned of it. Why is that so difficult to understand why he cut his answers well back after that?

I, in contrast to Brundle, do applaud to drivers who had learned from Michael’ experience, regardless what Brundle or some other ex say about it.


Dont know whats Brundle talking now as tv person. But as a driver, during 90s his answers were more interesting than prolly of any other driver.

Once he was asked a question in english by french interviewer who was struggling with english. Brundle answered in french withut being asked to answer in french.

After the race in Imola 94, still in overalls, Brundle was asked something. He said just - Please, not today -. It sounded reasonable and polite.

When Brundle was involved in any on track controversy, he always gave straight and honest answer. It helped that he was usually on recieving end of such crashes. What speaks for him as a decent person, but obviously against him as a modern days race driver.

Brundle as a driver was exactly there where that qualy comparison puts him, but he had that added edge in the race what most midfielders dont have. Having seen good 95% of his races on tv and some live id say he would have done top f1 car more justice than berger, patrese or coulthard.