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[JarnoRalfToyota]

Any news on NASCAR coverage for Europe?

There is no news with the season starting this weekend. It is a shame as the series had a great chance to increase their viewership in Europe.

Disappointed JPM fan.

[scottc]

MotorsTv usually cover NASCAR. If you can watch the race without dozing off, it will be amazing though.

[jokuvaan]

Install some p2p-tv program, like TVU, you might get lucky.

[scottc]

Originally posted by jokuvaan
Install some p2p-tv program, like TVU, you might get lucky.

Or he might get really unlucky and find it.

[robnyc]

Originally posted by jokuvaan
Install some p2p-tv program, like TVU, you might get lucky.

Last I checked TVU did not have FOX nor SPEED. They have NBC I think and perhaps some races would be shown there.

[Ciao]

NASCAR in Europe??? just as easy as finding World Cup brodcasts in Texas !!!!!! (was in Texas 2 days in June during world cup, in a small town of 200,000 people for work and as I visited every bar at night to find some sort of world cup update, if not broadcast, people were looking at me like I was a martian. "World Cup? what world cup? you mean the superbowl? It ain't February, boy!")

[robnyc]

JarnoRalfToyota, you are lucky. Just checked TVUPLAYER and it has "FOX" channel which will be broadcasting the races live.

[JarnoRalfToyota]

Thanks for the suggestions so far
NASCAR Busch was on Motors TV which I do have, Nextel Cup was on NASN which is easy, just pay for the subscription.
http://www.nasn.com/...nt/index-nascar
They are still negotiating.
I want TV coverage, my internet connection speed is poor at present.

[MrAerodynamicist]

If MotorsTV or NASN don't manage to pick it up, then Five are showing highlights

13/02/2007, 01:50 - 02:40, Five, NASCAR Nextel Cup

[Ciao]

13/02/2007, 01:50 - 02:40, Five, NASCAR Nextel Cup

Awesomne timing......just after lunch.....full stomac......three laps of Nascar.....ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

Thanks!!!!!

[fifi]

Originally posted by Ciao


Awesomne timing......just after lunch.....full stomac......three laps of Nascar.....ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

Thanks!!!!!

i actually beleive thats AM so if u are in the UK its not after lunch ;)

[jokuvaan]

As far as I understand, most channels in TVU are uploaded by individual persons mainly based by requests. So channels are popping in and out by daily basis. So if you want to be sure(to see some motorsport), you better have wider range of software available.

[glorius&victorius]

Originally posted by jokuvaan
As far as I understand, most channels in TVU are uploaded by individual persons mainly based by requests. So channels are popping in and out by daily basis. So if you want to be sure(to see some motorsport), you better have wider range of software available.

such as..

[robnyc]

Originally posted by glorius&victorius


such as..

Here are some.. TVANTS, PPLIVE, SopCast.. these are all chinese programs but they had loads of channels from all over the world.

[jb_128]

In Germany Premiere (pay-TV) is showing it in HD. Can't recieve it myself but I read somewhere that they only offer German commentary on the HD channel which of course makes it totally pointless.

I watched the last race of 2006 on TVU beause of Montoya and literally fell asleep.

[stevewf1]

Originally posted by Ciao
NASCAR in Europe??? just as easy as finding World Cup brodcasts in Texas !!!!!!

A very good comparison.

[jonpollak]

Originally posted by jb_128
I watched the last race of 2006 on TVU beause of Montoya and literally fell asleep.

Slingbox...Sheffield England
No sleep till Brixton
Jp

[scotchman]

I hope NASN get their 'negociations' sorted out pronto.

It's the Bud Shootout at Daytona this weekend and I'm quite keen on watching it!

[robnyc]

They are on practice right now for the Daytona 500. It looks like Montoya's car will be able to challenge for the win next week. He is currently 7th fastest ahead of many of the top guns.. Gordon, Johnson, Kenseth, Busch, Harvick, out of 30+ cars.

[BorderReiver]

Originally posted by robnyc
They are on practice right now for the Daytona 500. It looks like Montoya's car will be able to challenge for the win next week. He is currently 7th fastest ahead of many of the top guns.. Gordon, Johnson, Kenseth, Busch, Harvick, out of 30+ cars.

The times look ok, I'd be very keen to see how he handles a few hundred laps in that company though . . .

[robnyc]

Originally posted by BorderReiver


The times look ok, I'd be very keen to see how he handles a few hundred laps in that company though . . .

I actaully think he'll be ok. He's been already praised by other NASCAR driver as quick learner. Let's see what happens next week

[Denier]

I don't think he'll be competing for the win, personally.

Practice speeds are meaningless. Everyone is out trying to get their car handling well, no ones trying to burn off a fast lap (I don't think....).

I just have trouble seeing Montoya beating guys like Stewart, Johnson, Junior, etc., at Daytona. Maybe next year!

I hope you guys get this coverage thing worked out, its ridiculous.

[Tomecek]

Premiere.de is providing coverage, will be definitely watching

[robnyc]

I do not know much about NASCAR , but what I hear is that at Daytona you go flat out and its basically how well you can handle the car and how fast the car can go and the drafting.
Montoya's car was second in Daytona last year. Let's see what happens..

[Spunout]

Originally posted by robnyc
I do not know much about NASCAR , but what I hear is that at Daytona you go flat out and its basically how well you can handle the car and how fast the car can go and the drafting.
Montoya's car was second in Daytona last year. Let's see what happens..

AFAIK Daytona is easily flat out regardless of line. So it´s mostly about car/setup - the rest...race strategy and good luck with cautions.

[Denier]

The track isn't really an issue. Qualifying at Daytona is completely non eventful. As Tony Stewart puts it, "A monkey could do it." Its when you get out there with 42 other cars drafting that driving at Daytona gets tricky.

Montoya's problem won't be his car, it will be his lack of experience in restrictor plate racing. I'm not saying he'll be bad at it, I'm sure he'll be pretty good, but he's racing against guys who are absolutely incredible at plate racing. I just don't see him being able to finish ahead of those guys.

[Dudley]

Originally posted by robnyc
I do not know much about NASCAR , but what I hear is that at Daytona you go flat out and its basically how well you can handle the car and how fast the car can go and the drafting.
Montoya's car was second in Daytona last year. Let's see what happens..

The 2 plate tracks, of which Daytona is one are unique in that to get to the front you WILL need help. Montoya is going to be shorter on friends than a lot of others so it'll be hard to outright win for that reason.

At almost any other track he can do better.

[robnyc]

Originally posted by Dudley


The 2 plate tracks, of which Daytona is one are unique in that to get to the front you WILL need help. Montoya is going to be shorter on friends than a lot of others so it'll be hard to outright win for that reason.

At almost any other track he can do better.

His car is fast! I can tell you that. He is second fastest out of 30 drivers so far in qualifiers.

[Georg_Kuyumji]

Originally posted by Denier
The track isn't really an issue. Qualifying at Daytona is completely non eventful. As Tony Stewart puts it, "A monkey could do it." Its when you get out there with 42 other cars drafting that driving at Daytona gets tricky.

Montoya's problem won't be his car, it will be his lack of experience in restrictor plate racing. I'm not saying he'll be bad at it, I'm sure he'll be pretty good, but he's racing against guys who are absolutely incredible at plate racing. I just don't see him being able to finish ahead of those guys.

Qualy in Daytona isnt that easy as one might think, the track might be easy to drive, but try to be faster on an easy track than 42 other guys. Thats hard, you need to find a very smooth line threw the bankings.

[Spunout]

Originally posted by Georg_Kuyumji


Qualy in Daytona isnt that easy as one might think, the track might be easy to drive, but try to be faster on an easy track than 42 other guys. Thats hard, you need to find a very smooth line threw the bankings.

If you have the best car, it´s easy. If not, then it´s impossible.

3 40 David Stremme -0.217
4 42 Juan Montoya -0.256

What makes the difference between guys in equal cars - like Montoya and his teammate Stremme - propably has more to do with wind conditions than driver ability. Folks 1-1.5 secs from the pole...tough luck. You could put God behind the wheel and the gap would still be 1-1.5 secs.

I am not trying to trash NASCAR, but qualifying for this particular race really is all about car.

[robnyc]

I am quite surprised to see the Chip Gannassi cars in the second row. It looks like they've improved a lot over the winter. That is good news for Montoya if they can keep the same progress on the other races.

[Spunout]

Originally posted by robnyc
I am quite surprised to see the Chip Gannassi cars in the second row. It looks like they've improved a lot over the winter. That is good news for Montoya if they can keep the same progress on the other races.

I don´t follow NASCAR regularly, but didn´t they score 2nd place last year?

We´ll see. I have to say JPM is making an impact, though. I checked www.nascar.com for results, and the site looked like Montoya homepage No matter whether you clicked news, opinions or whatever..."ex-F1 driver" Montoya popped out everywhere. Even when the front page opened, the first thing I saw was a picture of 42 car - even though it was some other guy who took the pole.

And folks tell me F1 isn´t recognized by NASCAR community...

EDIT - more about the subject:

http://www.nascar.co...tona/index.html

[Mat]

I have only just realised that i cannot find any listing of the Busch Series in Australia??? The previous few years Fox Sports have shown all Busch races either live or slightly delayed. Now with Ambrose debuting we dont get any Busch this year at all??

Does anyone know if im missing anthing? I do understand that ESPN is showing Busch in the USA this year, but i just assumed they would show it here on either Fox Sports or out ESPN channel.

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[Dudley]

Originally posted by Spunout


If you have the best car, it´s easy. If not, then it´s impossible.

3 40 David Stremme -0.217
4 42 Juan Montoya -0.256

What makes the difference between guys in equal cars - like Montoya and his teammate Stremme - propably has more to do with wind conditions than driver ability. Folks 1-1.5 secs from the pole...tough luck. You could put God behind the wheel and the gap would still be 1-1.5 secs.

I am not trying to trash NASCAR, but qualifying for this particular race really is all about car.

Indeed, it should be noted that when making these comments about qualifying we are very strictly referring to just the 4 races at the 2 restrictor plate tracks.

And that comparison of 2 drivers in the same team, but with utterly different backgrounds is great evidence. As is the fact the two drivers ahead of them are the 2 Yates Racing teammates.

I don´t follow NASCAR regularly, but didn´t they score 2nd place last year?

In the race yes, but that's (bizzarely) actually a worse indication of speed than qualifying is. Casey started the #42 in 14th.

[Denier]

Qualifying at restrictor plate tracks is a complete joke. Literally, with an hour of practice, just about anybody could do it.

Just because your car is fast in open air at Daytona doesn't mean you'll be good in the draft. A good car at Daytona handles extremely well in the draft, and a good driver knows how to maneuver and when to make the right moves. He also has some buddies out there racing with him.

Qualifying isn't completely irrelevent... But qualifying at daytona and Talladega is as close to irrelevant as possible. Thats why they are racing the Dual 150s on Thursday to determine the starting grid.

The front row is determined by open air qualifying, the rest of the positions are determined by 150 mile draft races. Its a pretty good system, IMO. Racing at Daytona isn't a race against the track. Its a race against 42 other car. Period... The track is just... well.... there.

Here is a great article on Montoya, NASCAR, and F1.

"DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. - So will this year's biggest story in stock-car racing be Toyota, Juan Pablo Montoya, that quirky car of tomorrow, NASCAR's jump into the Montreal market, something odd businesswise out of that rocky Nextel-Sprint merger, or something else that blindsides everyone?

The biggest blind-side hit last season was delivered by Montoya, deep into the season, when he arrived by surprise in Chicago on NASCAR weekend to announce he was leaving Formula One and jumping to NASCAR.

It was a stunner.

Almost as stunning has been the general acceptance of Montoya by the NASCAR community. Jeff Gordon said that it's easy to understand why Montoya, an outsider, has been so quickly accepted into the NASCAR family: "It takes a lot of confidence - and there's a huge amount of pressure in saying: 'I'm leaving Formula One and going over to NASCAR.'

"You've got to give him credit for that, which is why he's been accepted so well.

"And it's good for the sport.

"But once that competition side starts coming out and he starts competing for wins, once he starts winning, that's all going to change."

It takes more than driving talent to succeed in NASCAR; it takes an understanding of the sport.

And make no mistake, Montoya gets it: "It's not about the cars, it's about the racing," he said. "That's what NASCAR is about. It's not about what the car is or what the car does, but about how close the racing is here.

"And if you think it's fun, just watching it on TV, come to one of these tracks and see it and you'll have a heart attack.

"A journalist came over from England and looked at these cars during testing and asked me why I was doing this. Now when you look at one of these cars in gray primer, before they're wrapped with all the decals, they're not very pretty. And the steering wheel here is big; in Formula One you've got a little steering wheel, with 15 buttons on it.

"But I told him, 'It's not about the cars; it's about the racing.'"

There is a sense that, for all the talk about Toyota, the bigger story will Montoya, whose outgoing personality has already made him a hit among fellow drivers, crewmen and the media.

"I think he's aware of his talents," Gordon said. "And he's aware of the commitment Chip Ganassi (Montoya's car owner) has made to him. Ganassi has stepped up that team in a way they've never had before.

"He understands he's definitely going to go through a period where things might come faster or might come slower. But I think he's prepared for that."

Learning curve

The car of tomorrow is a question inside the Montoya question, Gordon said, just as it is for every team here. "The car of tomorrow is a lot different than our current car," Gordon said. "If Juan Pablo were just starting in the car of tomorrow, it would be a little easier on him. But he's still got to drive the current car, and that probably is a bigger challenge.

"There are just so many things to learn. And this year it's going to be very competitive, with the new Toyota teams coming in and raising the level of competition."

But Montoya is more than just a Formula One driver making a dramatic career move. He's also Hispanic, from Colombia, at a point in time where NASCAR executives have a full-court press on to take this sport to the vast Hispanic market, in the U.S. and abroad.

Jeff Burton said he wishes things were a little different, that Montoya could just be Montoya, and not such a figurehead, with all the baggage that entails.

"I wish we were at a place in our society where we didn't have to talk about Juan Montoya because he's not from here," Burton said. "It's sad we're not there.

"It's not a NASCAR issue; it's a society issue. At some point we've got to get past that, and I'll be damn glad when we do.

"The thing that interests me more about Montoya than him being Hispanic is that we have a great opportunity for NASCAR fans to understand there are great drivers that don't drive stock cars.

"And I think we also have a great opportunity for Formula One fans to understand that this really hard. And that we're not just a bunch of dumb, unintelligent rednecks with cherry pickers taking engines out of trees.

"Montoya's ability is going to show. He has too much for it not too. And it's going to show quickly.

"You're also going to see the typical mistakes, typical to anyone that hasn't been doing this.

"You're going to see how hard it is to be competitive on a weekly basis.

"The Formula One guys are going to be watching Montoya and wondering what this sport is all about. So it's going to open the door to some people, and they're going to realize this is harder than it appears on the surface.

"But NASCAR fans are going to realize too that those guys who turn left and right over there in Europe, they're pretty damn good.

"It's going to be an eye-opener for everybody.

"All that interests me more than all the other stuff. It's just ridiculous we even have to talk about it, ridiculous that in 2007 we have to have a conversation about someone being a different color. We ought to be past that.""

http://www.journalno...d=1149193143712

[abf1]

In France ABMOTEUR cover all the Nextel Cup Race in LIVE
http://www.abmoteurs.tv/

[Dudley]

Originally posted by Denier
Qualifying at restrictor plate tracks is a complete joke. Literally, with an hour of practice, just about anybody could do it.

I'd suggest there's a fear factor involved which disputes that but I certainly agree the driver input is lower in restrictor qualifying than almost any motorsport.

Which is why if that hour person got into the race they would be sideways in the wall with 4 other cars probably because the green flag...

I like that they set the last places by the short races actually, it means that the people who get in are a better reflection of those who have the chance to place well rather than those who got a good setup and hung on for 2/3rds of a minute.

[Mat]

Originally posted by Mat
I have only just realised that i cannot find any listing of the Busch Series in Australia??? The previous few years Fox Sports have shown all Busch races either live or slightly delayed. Now with Ambrose debuting we dont get any Busch this year at all??

Does anyone know if im missing anthing? I do understand that ESPN is showing Busch in the USA this year, but i just assumed they would show it here on either Fox Sports or out ESPN channel.

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Well it looks like i got worried just a little too early.;)

Fox Sports Australia are showing the Busch Series. For some reason they are calling the Busch Series race 'Daytona 500' in the guide, so thats what threw me. Its all good!

Also, thought it was interesting that the online guide mentions it will be in W/S.

[jonpollak]

Just heard that in the UK channel FIVE will be showing the Daytona 500 @ 12.10 am Monday morning/ Sunday night.

Great to see the Irish Mafia lose out!!!

Jp

[Dudley]

Originally posted by jonpollak
Just heard that in the UK channel FIVE will be showing the Daytona 500 @ 12.10 am Monday morning/ Sunday night.

Great to see the Irish Mafia lose out!!!

Jp

Although that does condense a 3hr race into approximately 40mins of coverage total.

(No "So real time apart from cutting out the cautions" gags please)

[Ciao]

actually beleive thats AM so if u are in the UK its not after lunch

Oh, I see. Well then, anyone suffering from insomnia in the UK is finally getting a chance to rest

[Rob29]

According to 'Radio Times' its mon night tues morning.

[Dudley]

Yeah it would have to be, the 500 has half a chance of not even being over by 12:10 Sunday night.

[MrAerodynamicist]

Radiotimes is probably now out of date. The listings on five.tv have

Sunday 18th February 00:10 - 03:10 NASCAR Nextel Cup (ie Sun/Mon)
Monday 19th February 01:50 - 02:40 NASCAR Nextel Cup (ie Mon/Tue)

[Youichi]

Originally posted by MrAerodynamicist
Radiotimes is probably now out of date. The listings on five.tv have

Sunday 18th February 00:10 - 03:10 NASCAR Nextel Cup (ie Sun/Mon)
Monday 19th February 01:50 - 02:40 NASCAR Nextel Cup (ie Mon/Tue)

According to the story on Autosport, the Sunday night showing will be the Full race to Channel 5.

The actual race starts at 2pm ET, which is 7pm GMT, and is shown live in the US on Fox, which is supposedly on TVU if you've installed it.

The Duals start at 2pm ET (7pmGMT) , and 3.30pm ET (8.30pmGMT) both on Speed, which similarly is supposedly on TVU.

[jonpollak]

Originally posted by jonpollak
Just heard that in the UK channel FIVE will be showing the Daytona 500 @ 12.10 am Monday morning/ Sunday night.

Great to see the Irish Mafia lose out!!!

Jp

http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/56765
Good to see my little birdie is RIGHT ON THE MONEY..yet again.
Jp

[Bart]

I hope there are more races broadcast "as live" rather than just Daytona, since restrictor plate races are pretty tedious affairs. I want to see 'em racing at proper tracks like Bristol and Richmond (and all the tracks NASCAR threw out in favour of identikit 1.5-mile tri-ovals).

[Juan Kerr]

Originally posted by MrAerodynamicist
Radiotimes is probably now out of date. The listings on five.tv have

Sunday 18th February 00:10 - 03:10 NASCAR Nextel Cup (ie Sun/Mon)
Monday 19th February 01:50 - 02:40 NASCAR Nextel Cup (ie Mon/Tue)

Isn't it amazing how many people can't tell the time ?

[robnyc]

Originally posted by Juan Kerr

Isn't it amazing how many people can't tell the time ?

anybody watching? what happened to A.J why is he like 20 something laps behind?

[whitewaterMkII]

Originally posted by robnyc


anybody watching? what happened to A.J why is he like 20 something laps behind?

Someone checked up on Robby Gordon, Gordon came down and just nicked AJ's front right and took them both out. Robby had the good grace to call bad on himself, doesn't help AJ though, he's on the trailer.