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[Tenmantaylor]

Anyone bet on F1? I was thinking of having a flutter. Seems the Ladbrokes guys are fairly wise- they know Kovy is more likely for title than Fisi having never raced.

Given recent form and comments BMW could be worth a couple of quid for the constructors if the car is as impressive as it sounds. Good odds on RK and NH too. Again Ladbrokes favour the rookie.

Ladbrokes current odds on WDC:

K Raikkonen 6/4
F Alonso 2/1
F Massa 9/2
J Button 10/1
H Kovalainen 14/1
G Fisichella 16/1
L Hamilton 20/1
R Barrichello 33/1
J Trulli 50/1
R Kubica 50/1
R Schumacher 50/1
N Heidfeld 66/1
A Wurz 100/1
D Coulthard 100/1
M Webber 100/1
N Rosberg 100/1
S Speed 250/1
V Liuzzi 250/1
A Davidson 500/1
A Sutil 500/1
C Albers 500/1
T Sato 500/1

Ladbrokes current odds on WCC:

Ferrari 10/11
McLaren 7/4
Renault 5/1
Honda 8/1
Toyota 20/1
BMW Sauber 33/1
Williams 50/1
Red Bull 100/1
Toro Rosso 100/1
Spyker 150/1
Super Aguri 500/1

If anyone recommends any other good betting F1 sites post em here. Maybe we could keep this thread running throughout the season and celebrate any winning stories.

[gerry nassar]

Yes I do!

Start of the year is the best time to bet on F1.

Those Kimi odds are ridiculous!

The best bets would be the Renault guys and also the BWMs. Can't wait for the Melbourne race odds are up. If the BMWs and Renaults are that low - it would be worth putting some $$ on them.

Also the Williams may be worth a bet or two early in the season.

Offcourse for the championship it should be limited to Mclaren, Ferrari, Renault and perhaps BMW.

Interesting to see Kubica ahead of Heidfeld and as you said Kova ahead of Fisi.

[slapstick]

Bet and win:

2007 Constructors' Championship - 6:00 PM
Antepost Winner

Ferrari 1.75
McLaren-Mercedes 2.90
Renault 7.00
Honda 16.00
Toyota 20.00
BMW Sauber 40.00
Red Bull 70.00
WilliamsF1 80.00

2007 Drivers Championship - 6:00 PM
Antepost Winner

Kimi Raikkonen (FIN/Ferrari) 2.60
Fernando Alonso (ESP/McLaren) 2.70
Felipe Massa (BRA/Ferrari) 5.50
Jenson Button (GBR/Honda) 14.00
Heikki Kovalainen (FIN/Renault) 15.00
Giancarlo Fisichella (ITA/Renault) 20.00
Lewis Hamilton (GBR) 30.00
Rubens Barrichello (BRA/Honda) 30.00
Jarno Trulli (ITA/Toyota) 60.00
Alexander Wurz (AUT/Williams) 60.00
Nick Heidfeld (GER/BMW-Sauber) 60.00
Robert Kubica (POL/BMW-Sauber) 60.00
Ralf Schumacher (GER/Toyota) 60.00
Mark Webber (AUS/Red Bull) 80.00
David Coulthard (GBR/Red Bull) 80.00
Nico Rosberg (GER/Williams) 100.00

[gerry nassar]

BTW - here are the Australian odds from Sportsbet.com.au

Kimi Raikkonen (Ferrari) 2.45
Fernando Alonso (McLaren) 3.20
Felipe Massa (Ferrari) 5.50
Jenson Button (Honda) 15.00
Heikki Kovalainen (Renault) 19.00
Giancarlo Fisichella (Renault) 21.00
Lewis Hamilton (McLaren) 31.00
Rubens Barrichello (Honda) 31.00
Robert Kubica (Bmw Sauber) 41.00
Nick Heidfeld (Bmw Sauber) 67.00
Jarno Trulli (Toyota) 67.00
Ralf Schumacher (Toyota) 67.00
Mark Webber (Red Bull) 67.00
Nico Rosberg (Williams) 101.0
David Coulthard (Red Bull) 101.0
Alexander Wurz (Williams) 126.0

Ferrari 1.80
Mclaren 3.20
Renault 7.00
Honda 15.00
Toyota 26.00
Bmw Sauber 51.00
Red Bull Racing 81.00
Williams 101.0
Toro Rosso 151.0
Spyker 251.0
Super Aguri 501.0


And here are the MOTOGP and NASCAR odds....

Valentino Rossi 1.75
Daniel Pedrosa 5.00
Nicky Hayden 7.50
Loris Capirossi 9.00
Marco Melandri 19.00
John Hopkins 41.00
Casey Stoner 41.00
Chris Vermeulen 51.00
Alex Barros 67.00
Shinya Nakano 67.00
Kenny Roberts 67.00
Colin Edwards 81.00
Toni Elias 101.0
Carlos Checa 151.0
Makoto Tamada 251.0
Randy De Puniet 301.0
Olivier Jacque 501.0
Sylvain Guintoli 501.0
Alex Hofmann 501.0



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Nascar Championship Winner 13-2-2007 3:40 AEST
Winner
Tony Stewart 6.00
Jimmie Johnson 6.50
Dale Earnhardt Jr 9.00
Matt Kenseth 9.00
Jeff Gordon 9.50
Kevin Harvick 13.00
Denny Hamlin 15.00
Kasey Kahne 15.00
Carl Edwards 19.00
Greg Biffle 19.00
Kyle Busch 21.00
Jeff Burton 21.00
Mark Martin 21.00
Kurt Busch 26.00
Casey Mears 31.00
Clint Bowyer 41.00
Ryan Newman 41.00
Martin Truex Jr 51.00
Scott Riggs 51.00
Brian Vickers 51.00
Jamie Mcmurray 67.00
Juan Pablo Montoya 67.00
Reed Sorrenson 67.00
Elliott Sadler 81.00
Bobby Labonte 81.00
Dale Jarett 101.0

[slapstick]

Ladbrokes seems to have crappier odds in general.

[scheivlak]

Always interesting to look for comparisons and differences on an international scale.

This is http://de.sportingbe...tion.asp?ecid=7|-35136

"Alle wetten fuer F1 World Drivers Championship 2007"

Fernando Alonso 2.75
Kimi Raikonnen 2.75
Felipe Massa 5.50
Jenson Button 17.00
Heikki Kovalainen 19.00
Giancarlo Fisichella 26.00
Lewis Hamilton 34.00
Rubens Barrichello 51.00
R Schumacher 67.00
Jarno Trulli 67.00
Nick Heidfeld 81.00
Robert Kubica 81.00
David Coulthard 126.00
Nico Rosberg 126.00
Mark Webber 126.00
Alexander Wurz 126.00
Christijan Albers 501.00
Anthony Davidson 501.00
Takuma Sato 501.00
Scott Speed 501.00
Vitantonio Liuzzi 501.00
Adrian Sutil 501.00

[Tenmantaylor]

Lol sportingbet have just slashed odds on RK and NH from 80/1 to 40/1.

When do sites start taking bets on the first race?

Not long now!

[jokuvaan]

Our(Finland's) monopoly betting agency is so sissy that they allow F1 betting only week before or something. So that they can have most secure odds...

[gerry nassar]

Yeah its a shame they dont open first race betting till later or else i'd say most of us could potentially clean up on the BMWs.

Still the bookies dont get everything right. I did very well on the Renault's in Melb in 2005.

[Ilaya]

Originally posted by gerry nassar
Those Kimi odds are ridiculous!

How dare you say that about the big Kimster, everybody in the know knows that Kimi is gonna destroy the F1 competition this year in the awsome RED-machine, it's a miracle that you can even earn money by betting on super Kimi winning this year, that's for sure and every fanb... errr.. F1 fan knows it ;)

But seriously nice thread, was thinking about betting a bit on F1 after winning some flimsy intra-company competiton last year, hope to get some pointers as to where to best place some bets.
Do most of those agencies also accepting bets on individual races?

[gerry nassar]

Well you know im a Kimi fan right... hehe but i do still think they are too low - for now anyway.

Yes they take bets for every race during the year. I dont bet online but do go to my local betting agency and bet their.

Most agencies take bets for : Driver Wins and Places (top 3), Team Wins and Places, Quinellas (1-2 combos - which are the most lucritive) and some do points placings aswell. Betting early in the season is best as the bookies are pretty much in the same position as we are and dont know who are truly competitive.

[gerry nassar]

On a side note - who made any money off Indy 05?

I went to my local TAB to bet on MS/RB aswell as the Jordan's and Minardi's but they closed 5 minutes before hand. It would have been a windfall!!!

[Ilaya]

Originally posted by gerry nassar
I dont bet online but do go to my local betting agency and bet their.

Because that's not possible here I'll be taking my chances online, I found out last year that having another (financial or other) interest in a race, spices up even the most boring races.

[gerry nassar]

Originally posted by Ilaya


Because that's not possible here I'll be taking my chances online, I found out last year that having another (financial or other) interest in a race, spices up even the most boring races.

Seriously that is probably the main reason to do it. It really does make boring races interesting. It can also be interesting when a driver you dont like wins - atleast you still come out a winner.

I was looking at about $180 for Alonso/Kimi in Monaco last year but when he DNF'd - I made $350 on Alonso/Montoya instead

Though you tend to have a few bad weekends in a season aswell.

Good luck

[SphereTL1000S]

Originally posted by Ilaya


Because that's not possible here I'll be taking my chances online, I found out last year that having another (financial or other) interest in a race, spices up even the most boring races.

[Tenmantaylor]

Went in the local Coral yesterday- they only take bets on the first race a week before the start of the season.

Luckily I only breathed out whilst speaking to the attendant and hence still have my lungs intact.

[Oho]

Originally posted by gerry nassar
On a side note - who made any money off Indy 05?

I went to my local TAB to bet on MS/RB aswell as the Jordan's and Minardi's but they closed 5 minutes before hand. It would have been a windfall!!!

I made about 1000€, did not dare to bet anymore on account of fearing the Michelin tams might actually race.

[Youichi]

Originally posted by Tenmantaylor
Seems the Ladbrokes guys are fairly wise- they know Kovy is more likely for title than Fisi having never raced.

As a non-betting person, I have a question, or two.

How do Ladbrokes generate these odds ? is there an F1 fan who works there, whose job it is to estimate them ?

And then once they've posted the odd, if they take a ton of money on say Kimi, so they lower the odd on Kimi and raise everyone elses to "balance" their books whatever the outcome ?

I guess what I'm really asking is, "Are the odds on Kimi thier opinion of the odds, or really just the odds, which mean they won't loose money if Kimi does win ?"

[RDM]

Something to do with bookies and bicycles (or lack thereof).

[kNt]

I was thinking about betting, but as there are no more stint-times I don't feel like having a clue which team has the edge (not that I was actually 100% right last year).

[sainsburypeter]

This is probably the best site for comparing what all the bookies are offering.

http://www.oddscheck...aone/scard/8650

Given McLarens recent form it looks pretty good value to go each way on Hamilton @ 33/1. You can still get 40/1 on BMW for constructors (Honda @ 14/1 and Toyota @ 33/1).

[Dudley]

Originally posted by Youichi


As a non-betting person, I have a question, or two.

How do Ladbrokes generate these odds ? is there an F1 fan who works there, whose job it is to estimate them ?

And then once they've posted the odd, if they take a ton of money on say Kimi, so they lower the odd on Kimi and raise everyone elses to "balance" their books whatever the outcome ?

I guess what I'm really asking is, "Are the odds on Kimi thier opinion of the odds, or really just the odds, which mean they won't loose money if Kimi does win ?"

At first they "guess" and yes, then it's just maths.

[V8 Fireworks]

Heidfeld's odds are far too low if BMW is fastest. $100 for $6600 that is quite profitable, bookies appear to be gunning to lose money on F1, mad bookies!

[gerry nassar]

Originally posted by Oho


I made about 1000€, did not dare to bet anymore on account of fearing the Michelin tams might actually race.

Good stuff! I was fearful they would race to - but it worth the gamble.

[Brian O Flaherty]

Originally posted by V8 Fireworks
bookies appear to be gunning to lose money on F1, mad bookies!

Ooh, famous last words there ;) Bookies are no fools. Tread carefully


On a general tone- Kovalainen is shorter than Fisi because Fisi is a known quantity and the bookies are confident he wont win it. But Kova is a wildcard who could be a phenomenon so they'reslightly hedging their bets. I'd be sligtly surprised if Kova beat Fisi in his first year although not half as surprised as I would be if LH beat FA.

An each way bet on Barrichello might be an idea. He has also lost 5kg this off-season. Those WCC odds are too short though and I've no faith in going as far down as Toyota.

[Alfisti]

Some of you guys are nuts.

As if BMW or Hamilton or Hekki is going to step up and win a championship.

It's Kimi/Alonso and McLaren/Ferarri over the season as the odds suggest.

[sainsburypeter]

Originally posted by Alfisti
Some of you guys are nuts.

As if BMW or Hamilton or Hekki is going to step up and win a championship.

It's Kimi/Alonso and McLaren/Ferarri over the season as the odds suggest.

I agree that they are the deserved favourites for the title, but betting is all about value and however unlikely an event is if the odds offered are 40/1 when it should be a 20/1 chance then its worth covering.

[noikeee]

I don't think BMW will win the championship, but their testing form indicates they're likely to be a lot better than what most of those odds suggest.

Opposite for Jenson Button. There's no way in hell he's the 4th biggest favourite right now.

Altho I think bookmarkers have kept up with BMW's nice pre-season, here's the current odds on betandwin:

Kimi Raikkonen (FIN/Ferrari) 2.60
Fernando Alonso (ESP/McLaren) 2.70
Felipe Massa (BRA/Ferrari) 5.50
Jenson Button (GBR/Honda) 14.00
Heikki Kovalainen (FIN/Renault) 15.00
Giancarlo Fisichella (ITA/Renault) 20.00
Nick Heidfeld (GER/BMW-Sauber) 30.00
Lewis Hamilton (GBR) 30.00
Rubens Barrichello (BRA/Honda) 30.00
Robert Kubica (POL/BMW-Sauber) 30.00
Alexander Wurz (AUT/Williams) 60.00
Ralf Schumacher (GER/Toyota) 60.00
Jarno Trulli (ITA/Toyota) 60.00
Mark Webber (AUS/Red Bull) 80.00
David Coulthard (GBR/Red Bull) 80.00
Nico Rosberg (GER/Williams) 100.00

BMW dropped from 60.00 to 30.00 already?

[slapstick]

Originally posted by Oho


I made about 1000€, did not dare to bet anymore on account of fearing the Michelin tams might actually race.

From Veikkaus? Their odds for MS-RB were only ~14 at the end IIRC so getting 1000 from them would have been not bad at all.

[Bumper]

If betting per race, aside from wins, going each way on certain carefully selected non-favoured drivers could still earn you a nice payout on certain tracks. Hoping to apply that luck again this year on a few well-placed bets to finance my expensive travel habits Well, or at least pay for the return ticket Gatwick Express.

[Nobody]

Massa is a good bet, touted to be able to beat Kimi, and at twice the money

[SphereTL1000S]

Originally posted by Nobody
Massa is a good bet, touted to be able to beat Kimi, and at twice the money

Agreed. If you go for the underdog with good information and don't want to loose serious money, Massa is the best bet. That's where Bernie's money is, and I doubt he would put 100 bucks one way or the other. More like [edit]a hundred times that.

But if you just bet money you don't care loosing, people sometimes just go for the really odd chances, just in the hope of making profit out of relatively little money. If they lost, they don't care very much. Go BMW for the WCC? It is a win-win situation!

(Edited for clarification.)

[Alfisti]

The best bet is a little on either or both Kimi and Alonso. I find it near impossible that anyone else can win this thing.

[SphereTL1000S]

Originally posted by Alfisti
The best bet is a little on either or both Kimi and Alonso. I find it near impossible that anyone else can win this thing.

Sorry, mate, you are contradicting yourself. You have said previously above:

Quote:

"Some of you guys are nuts.

As if BMW or Hamilton or Hekki is going to step up and win a championship.

It's Kimi/Alonso and McLaren/Ferarri over the season as the odds suggest."

Well, all the odds put on a reasonable chance for Massa, far from "impossible". If you follow what the odds suggest, that is.

[meheeco]

Originally posted by Tenmantaylor
Anyone bet on F1? I was thinking of having a flutter.

Sure. I do sports betting for a living, and have had some good seasons in F1 as well (although the new qualification rules for 2006 cost me my edge on qualification h2h betting).

For odds comparison I see you've already got a recommendation about oddschecker.com, but www.betbrain.com is slightly better for comparing outright odds at online bookies (oddschecker.com mostly includes UK bookies with betting shops), both WDC/WCC and for each race.

There are different betting options on an F1 weekend, where most bookies put up odds on qualification and race winners and podium. Quite a few also include points betting, where going for the Heidfelds and Coulthards of the last couple of seasons at 2/1 and above really pays off in the long run (steady finishers who will pick up the 7th and 8th spots after the McLarens and Hondas blow up). The problem with all these outright markets though, is that the bookies usually present a market with only 75-80% payback, which means they have a huge theoretic advantage compared to the punters. A more interesting market is therefore the race and qualification h2h's or group betting (usually 4 drivers), where you place a bet on which driver will finish the best. These markets usually has around 89-92% payback.

I could make some recommendations on online bookmakers as well, if requested.

[Alfisti]

Originally posted by SphereTL1000S


Sorry, mate, you are contradicting yourself. You have said previously above:

Um yeah, I said alonso/kimi for drivers and Ferrari/mcLaren for constructors. I never said Massa was a shot at the drivers title.

[meheeco]

Originally posted by Alfisti


Um yeah, I said alonso/kimi for drivers and Ferrari/mcLaren for constructors. I never said Massa was a shot at the drivers title.

If you actually believe what you're saying, you can make a surebet of about 50% by combining Raikkonen at 2.75 and Alonso at 3.30 for WDC. But I'm guessing you won't be putting your money behind your word.

[Alfisti]

Originally posted by meheeco


If you actually believe what you're saying, you can make a surebet of about 50% by combining Raikkonen at 2.75 and Alonso at 3.30 for WDC. But I'm guessing you won't be putting your money behind your word.

I will but not yet, too early, i wait until the late tests to make a call.

I remember Rubens at 33/1 to finish second in 2002 and I waited a week ...... dropped to like 2/1 ...... DOH!!!!!

[jokuvaan]

Paf:
www.paf.fi
Drivers Championship 2007 - Winner

1 Räikkönen Kimi (FIN) Ferrari 2,60
2 Alonso Fernando (ESP) McLaren 3,25
3 Massa Felipe (BRA) Ferrari 3,25
4 Button Jenson (GBR) Honda 20,00
5 Fisichella Giancarlo (ITA) Renault 20,00
6 Kovalainen Heikki (FIN) Renault 20,00
7 Hamilton Lewis (GBR) McLaren 25,00
8 Heidfeld Nick (GER) BMW-Sauber 35,00
9 Kubica Robert (POL) BMW-Sauber 35,00
10 Barrichello Rubens (BRA) Honda 50,00
11 Schumacher Ralf (GER) Toyota 85,00
12 Trulli Jarno (ITA) Toyota 100,00


Nordicbet:
https://www.nordicbe...egories_id=3900

Kimi Raikkonen (Ferrari) 2.50
Fernando Alonso (McLaren) 3.05
Felipe Massa (Ferrari) 3.75
Heikki Kovalainen (Renault) 15.00
Jenson Button (Honda) 15.00
Giancarlo Fisichella (Renault) 20.00
Lewis Hamilton (McLaren) 25.00
Nick Heidfeld (BMW Sauber) 35.00
Robert Kubica (BMW Sauber) 35.00
Rubens Barrichello (Honda) 35.00
Ralf Schumacher (Toyota) 75.00
Jarno Trulli (Toyota) 75.00
Nico Rosberg (Williams) 100.00
Alexander Wurz (Williams) 100.00

[sainsburypeter]

Early betting for the Aussie GP

F Massa 3.25
K Raikkonen 3.50
F Alonso 4.50
G Fisichella 13.00
H Kovalainen 15.00
L Hamilton 15.00
J Button 17.00
N Heidfeld 21.00
R Kubica 21.00
R Barrichello 41.00
N Rosberg 51.00
A Wurz 67.00
J Trulli 67.00
R Schumacher 67.00
D Coulthard 101.00
M Webber 101.00
S Speed 201.00
V Liuzzi 201.00
A Davidson 501.00
A Sutil 501.00
C Albers 501.00
T Sato 501.00

Edit:From Ladbrokes I should say.

[Tenmantaylor]

Thanks for the recommendations Meheeco. V.Interesting to hear you bet for a living! What sports do you make most from? And is it just sports you bet on or do you do Casinos?

Anyone else feel that alonso is worth a punt for oz? I have

[F1Fund]

Personally, I don't see much value in betting on the title's. The return on your investment combined with the risk over the best part of a year isn't attractive enough for me.

I would (and do) prefer to bet on each race as it comes. The only reason I would bet on the drivers title, would be with the intention of trading off the bet on the exchange. Someone like Hamilton would be perfect for this - if he gets of to a good start his odds should tumble.

Belive it or not the two drivers who have given me the best return of the last couple of years are Montoya and Massa. Wether it be on a pole position or race win, the 'pre-conception' people have about 2nd drivers effects the odds and presents good opportunities.

On a number of occasions these '2nd' drivers have been quicker in practice on tracks they enjoy and tracks the first team driver hates and is going slow in practice. Yet - the first team driver will still be favourite. This is when it's worth a bet.

For example odds of 9-1 on massa to get pole in Turkey last year! The real odds should have been as low as 2-1 at least.

[sainsburypeter]

Heres the latest points spread prices from SportingIndex

Raikkonen 88 - 92
Alonso 84 - 88
Massa 82 - 86
Hamilton 52 - 56
Button 46 - 50
Kovalianen 42 - 46
Fisichella 42 - 46
Heidfeld 40 - 44
Kubica 38 - 42
Barrichello 24 - 27
Rosberg 18 - 21
Wurz 17 - 20
R Schumacher 14 - 17
Trulli 14 - 17
Coulthard 14 - 17
Webber 14 - 17
Liuzzi 3 - 5
Speed 2.5 - 4
Davidson 2.5 - 4
Sato 1.5 - 3
Albers 1 - 2
Sutil 0.5 - 1.5

Think theyve got most of the bases covered really. Could see a potential sell of Button at 46 early in the season and maybe even the Toyota's.

[HoldenRT]

Originally posted by Tenmantaylor
they know Kovy is more likely for title than Fisi having never raced.

Maybe I am in the minority but I expect Kovi and Hamilton to struggle much the same way Nico did. Hamilton more so, because the year of testing surely must have helped Heiki, and also the new Friday rules. But even if he does turn out to be a better driver in the longrun, I don't expect him to score many more points then Fisi. I expect Fisi to score more points this year.

We will see how it turns out at the end.

As for the betting, don't like to myself but the prices and points spreads are very interesting. It'll be interesting to see how much they change after the first race.

[sainsburypeter]

Originally posted by HoldenRT
Maybe I am in the minority but I expect Kovi and Hamilton to struggle much the same way Nico did. Hamilton more so, because the year of testing surely must have helped Heiki, and also the new Friday rules. But even if he does turn out to be a better driver in the longrun, I don't expect him to score many more points then Fisi. I expect Fisi to score more points this year.

We will see how it turns out at the end.

As for the betting, don't like to myself but the prices and points spreads are very interesting. It'll be interesting to see how much they change after the first race.

Think you've got a good point there, especially in relation to Heikki's odds / spreads. Although people have written Fisi's championship chances off its still unlikely that he'll get the measure of Fisi until later in the season.

[noikeee]

Originally posted by HoldenRT
Maybe I am in the minority but I expect Kovi and Hamilton to struggle much the same way Nico did. Hamilton more so, because the year of testing surely must have helped Heiki, and also the new Friday rules. But even if he does turn out to be a better driver in the longrun, I don't expect him to score many more points then Fisi. I expect Fisi to score more points this year.

That's what I'm thinking too.

Now obviously, both Hamilton and Kovalainen have shown lots of talent in lower formulas, so they could surprise, but I'm not expecting any more than what you said.

[meheeco]

Originally posted by Tenmantaylor
Thanks for the recommendations Meheeco. V.Interesting to hear you bet for a living! What sports do you make most from? And is it just sports you bet on or do you do Casinos?

Handball, cycling, winter sports, Formula 1 and football (soccer), in that order.

The only way to make a living from Casinos besides owning them is to play live poker, because the house has a statistical edge in all other games (though it's very close to 50-50 in blackjack if you're counting cards in a sophisticated manner). Therefore, Casinos are for fortune hunters and pro poker players, and none of these groups includes me

My opinion is that F1 is good for betting because it is more like a game of chess than real racing, so the race scenarios are easier to build without the randomness of too much on-track passing.

[slapstick]

Here are the latest joke odds (especially for the home boys) for the WDC from the Finnish agency Veikkaus:

Voittaja 1
FORMULA 1,MAAILMANMESTARI 2
Pelaaminen päättyy la 17.3. klo 22.00
Alustavat kertoimet 16.03.2007 klo 16:53. Vaihto 16996 euroa

1. 6 RÄIKKÖNEN K 1,85
2. 5 MASSA F 3,89
3. 4 KOVALAINEN H 4,87
4. 1 ALONSO F 5,47
5. 3 FISICHELLA G 16,74
6. 2 HAMILTON L 28,94
7. 7 BUTTON J 31,00
8. 11 SCHUMACHER R 53,11
9. 8 BARRICHELLO R 53,71
10. 10 KUBICA R 61,32
11. 16 ROSBERG N 71,24
12. 9 HEIDFELD N 77,86
13. 14 COULTHARD D 107,67
14. 12 TRULLI J 109,65
15. 17 WURZ A 138,83
16. 15 WEBBER M 156,34
17. 19 SPEED S 626,19
18. 22 SATO T 699,86
19. 23 DAVIDSON A 721,07
20. 20 ALBERS C 1 189,77
21. 18 LIUZZI V 1 487,22
22. 21 SUTIL A 1 487,22

[sainsburypeter]

Originally posted by slapstick
Here are the latest joke odds (especially for the home boys) for the WDC from the Finnish agency Veikkaus:

You'd never guess they were Finnish would you?

[Oho]

Originally posted by sainsburypeter


You'd never guess they were Finnish would you?

They really are not odds offered by Veikkaus. Veikkaus is simply the bookie thus the odds reflect distribution of bets over contestants. Hence they seem ridiculous because home boys have made ridiculous bets...

At those odds best bets seem Hamilton and Heidfeld, perhaps I should put a fiver on quick Nick. That said I hope/guess/believe, what ever difficult to tell apart, that Kimi finally takes it.