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#1 MortenF1

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:10

A commanding drive from Massa today - congratulations to him and Ferrari on a fine win!
Räikkönen has not been able to match his team-mate today, and has to settle for third.

-Hamilton has totally outclassed Alonso this weekend, performing fabulously all weekend to score his third consecutive podium-finish. A fantastic second.
Alonso, being very bleak this weekend, brought his car home in a dissapointing fifth.

-Hamilton warned not to rule out BMW, and indeed, Heidfeld again drove superbly to finish fourth. Well done! Kubica scores points as well -sixth - his first so far, but he has been some way off his team-mate's pace, but today the explanation was a problem with the fuel-flap.

-Toyota and Trulli continue their consistency; another seventh for him, but the other side of the garage; Ralf Schumacher, spent the day battling Barrichello to finish 12th.

-Fisichella grabs the last point, while Kovalainen reaches the flag eight seconds adrift in ninth.

-Williams probably performed a bit below par, no points but they entertained today and battled hard.

Further down it was a cracking race from Coulthard; from 21st he raced his way up to a very convincing seventh- catching Kubica even. Webber too had a strong day early on atleast, destined for a point, but then the fuel flap stuck open again. Eventually both Red Bull's retired - a huge pity as they deserved to open up their points account.

Another weekend to forget for Honda, Barrichello 13th and Button out in a crash on the opening lap with Speed. Liuzzi too tangled, and eventually threw in the towel with mechanical problems.
The performance of the Super Aguri's has been good, but not their reliability. Both drivers out with shot engines. Some critisism has to come Davidson's way, who stayed on the racing line when his engine spit out oil.
Both Spyker's finish, but clearly slowest, and that by a margin that has to be a bit of a surprise, as they looked quicker earlier in the weekend.


Over to you - share your views and verdicts on what was a very entertaininng race!

(a one month break now till the Spanish GP, but there's atleast a test in between - Circuit de Catalunya 30th of April to 2nd of May.

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#2 jokuvaan

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:12

Kimi's win chances went today when Alonso got pass. Kimi needs to get that pole in next race.

Sad day for Williams and sad day for my gaming bets.

#3 Limits

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:12

I am now in the "Kimi the Cruiser" camp. Extremely disappointed that he was unable to attack either Alonso or Hamilton and the restart was a brainfade of cosmic proportions. Alonso surprisingly weak as well. Go Lewis! :up:

Seems like there is nothing between Ferrari and McLaren at the moment and BMW is propably right there with them.

#4 Amrl

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:12

Faultless drives from Massa, Heidfeld :up:

Raikkonen heaviest but getting stuck behind a McLaren on the first stint again ruined it for him. Most likely would have came out first after the first stops had he managed to keep Alonso behind :

Another good drive from Hamilton, what was with Alonso?

The result sure keeps the championship race interesting!

#5 clampett

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:13

Amazing that both Kimi and Alonso were owned today. Good job Massa for once, Hamilton is a real deal. :up:
Heidfeld again very fast, hopefully he grabs the podium and win soon. :up: :up:
Shame for DC.
Renault had craptastic race, Fisi lost around 20 secs in the second stint. :

Kubica... disappointment.

#6 K-One

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:13

Great result for WDC :up:

Massa and Hammy above their teammates. Kimi mediocre and Alonso disappoiting.

Great races from Nick and DC, lost of overtaking :up: :up:

#7 Jacquesback

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:14

Kimi and Nando firmly trounced by Flippy and Lew.

Great race by Nick. :up:

Shame for DC, he was on for good points.

#8 RiDE

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:14

Massa :up:
Hamilton :up:
Raikkonen :up:
Heidfeld/BMW :up: :up:

DC's car :down: :down:

Honda :cry:

#9 Lazarus II

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:15

Great drivers by Massa, Hamilton, and Heidfeld. Honorable mention has to go to DC; it was great while it lasted. :up:

#10 slapstick

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:15

Originally posted by Limits
I am now in the "Kimi the Cruiser" camp.


Who cares everybody knows you hate the guy. :lol:

#11 Cheap Wine Alesi

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:15

:up: good race

Awesome to see the Great Alonso getting owned by a rookie. Where are those "alonso will lap Hamilton" stories now :rotfl:

Best man of the race - Nick Heidfeld. Killed the whining Kubica.

Kimi - stupid on the restart. otherwise very good pace in the race. Could have won, but didnt :mad:

:up:

#12 tifosi

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:15

Congradulations to Massa for a fine weekend.

Kimi looked slow both on the start and re-start. Decent pace through the race but never really challenged Hamilton.

Great job by Hamilton, showing no signs of being a "rookie".

Be interesting to hear what may be wrong with Alonso's car. Pretty unremarkable race other than the start.

And a big :up: :up: :up: BMW. Great job this season and nice to Heidfeld get a good result. Would be nice tosee them maybe sneak in a race win at some point.

A :down: for Ron Denis whining about BMW stradegy. What's up with that? Their stradegy shouldn't be to beat McLaren?

#13 ensign14

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:15

Bravo Felipe, great way to bounce back from the comparative disaster last time out.

Bravo Hamilton, it's taken him three races to beat the guy who drove MS into retirement. [/ITV hype] On a similar basis Kova was about eight seconds behind Fisi, he seems to be getting to grip with this Formula 1 lark.

Such a shame for DC, he was on a monster today.

Can someone again remind me why Ralf Schumacher is driving anything other than a milk float? Perhaps he was affected by a remark about the cut of his racesuit or something. Trulli at least showed some balls.

Can we start a sweep on whom Sutil will take out at the next race? Once is unlucky, twice is careless, three times looks like wankery.

And a three-way tie in the points "race".

Great remark from Brundle when the Honda engine in Sato's car let go..."there are five thousand pieces in a Formula 1 engine, I think one of them made a bid for freedom..."

Remind me again why everyone criticizes Bahrain? That was an excellent race, the sand adding a slippery element.

#14 Choda-Boy

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:16

FA :up: :up:
LH :up: :up: :up:
KR :down:
NH :up: :up:
FA :down: :down:

A very good comeback for FM, second consecutive bad race for KR, third consecutive brilliant one for LH, very pale performance for FA, NH was excellent again!

A cool race - the day of the so-called second drivers!

#15 Cheap Wine Alesi

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:17

Originally posted by clampett
Amazing that both Kimi and Alonso were owned today. Good job Massa for once, Hamilton is a real deal. :up:


Massa wasnt faster than Kimi on pure pace. Hamilton on pure pace was easily faster than Alonso :up:

#16 ademm

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:17

How come Kimi came 3 laps later than Hamilton in the first stops and before him in the second pit?
How can they be so stupid? They will need Brawn.

#17 MortenF1

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:17

So sorry for DC, drive of the day for me easily, but there's still a lot of positives to be taken into the break we're now approaching. The car works well, and he had a cracking race!

Heidfeld too - another fantastic day. BMW might well move on to becoming genuine podium-contenders.
I wonder what reasons Theissen has for not taking up that option immediately.

Alonso? :

Räikkönen bleak as well, but the WDC-fight will still be between him and Alonso.

A bit surprised to see many set their fastest laps with the hard tires.

#18 K-One

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:17

Originally posted by ademm
How come Kimi came 3 laps later than Hamilton in the first stops and before him in the second pit?
How can they be so stupid? They will need Brawn.


They wanted to get ahead of Alonso.

#19 RamzanChick

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:18

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:clap: MASSA CHAMPION :clap:

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#20 Limits

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:18

Originally posted by slapstick


Who cares everybody knows you hate the guy. :lol:

Because I don't defend everything he does? Well, if that is hate I hate everyone in this world.

#21 Choda-Boy

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:18

Originally posted by Cheap Wine Alesi
:up: good race

Awesome to see the Great Alonso getting owned by a rookie. Where are those "alonso will lap Hamilton" stories now :rotfl:

Best man of the race - Nick Heidfeld. Killed the whining Kubica.

Kimi - stupid on the restart. otherwise very good pace in the race. Could have won, but didnt :mad:

:up:

KR wasn't nowhere near close to winning. Bad qualifying, bad start, indifferent race, no attacks, totally owned by FM, phew :down:
Only bright spot was that he performed better than FA today.

#22 Deeq

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:18

David couldhart...drive of the YEAR, takes a bow, F1 racing the way it was meant..:cool: .. :up: :up: :up: :up: :up:
Massa a masterfull drive ala meastro :up: :up: :up: :up:
...Alonso got spanked good by...., it ALMOST makes up for last weekend...almost :D

#23 robnyc

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:18

Kimi looks pissed.

#24 RDM

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:18

An enjoyable, exciting race from start to finish.

Great work by Massa, Lewis, Heidfeld and Davidson.

Good from Kimi except when safety car in.

Alonso - problems with car today?

3 drivers on equal points in champ.....that can't be bad. :up:

#25 K-One

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:18

Originally posted by Choda-Boy
KR wasn't nowhere near close to winning. Bad qualifying, bad start, indifferent race, phew :down:


What about FA then

#26 Limits

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:19

Originally posted by Cheap Wine Alesi


Massa wasnt faster than Kimi on pure pace.

No? If you saw something that indicates Kimi was faster than Felipe today, please share.

#27 tifosi

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:19

Originally posted by ademm
How come Kimi came 3 laps later than Hamilton in the first stops and before him in the second pit?
How can they be so stupid? They will need Brawn.


Because they wanted to jump Alonso, which they did.

#28 Jacquesback

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:19

Originally posted by Cheap Wine Alesi
Kimi - stupid on the restart. otherwise very good pace in the race. Could have won, but didnt :mad:

:up:


:rotfl: :drunk:

#29 RamzanChick

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:19

Pole, fastest lap, victory! :clap: :clap:

Massa is the best!

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#30 robnyc

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:20

I wanna here Kimi's excuse today, or not Kimi;s but his fans..

#31 slapstick

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:20

Originally posted by robnyc
Kimi looks pissed.


Too bad we cannot see FA's face.

#32 512 TR

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:20

The boy wonder did it! He bounced back! :clap:

I'm so happy at the moment. I need to calm down before I can say anything with meaning.

Great! :up:

#33 slapstick

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:20

Originally posted by robnyc
I wanna here Kimi's excuse today, or not Kimi;s but his fans..


Please you tell the excuses for FA first.

#34 Choda-Boy

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:21

Originally posted by K-One


What about FA then

Phew :down: as well!

#35 cordell777

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:21

Originally posted by robnyc
I wanna here Kimi's excuse today, or not Kimi;s but his fans..

So, what are yours ? :)

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:21

The race as it unfolded in the live thread: http://forums.autosp...&threadid=94024

#37 Spunout

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:21

Very good race, easily the best of the season so far :up:

3 drivers having 22 points in the WDC, with Massa closing in.



Massa :up: :up: :up: Perfect drive all the way. Scores "hat trick" and stops talks about 1B for now. The WDC is alive!

Hamilton :up: :up: :up: Outclasses 2-times WDC on track and battles both Ferraris, beating one of them. Fantastic!!!

Räikkönen :up: :down: Had the pace but not the track position. Sleeping that restart was his mistake all the way.

Heidfeld :up: :up: :up: Give Quick Nick decent car and he´ll perform...

Alonso :down: :up: Very average weekend this time. Still, few solid points.



Other :up: drivers: DC, Nico, etc.



Conclusion? All top 4 drivers move to Europe with good points. Big updates for all cars in Imola, and very telling race in Spain coming up. Whoever does well in next two races, will be in strong position.

#38 RamzanChick

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:22

Fantastic drive from Massa

Today he proved that he is WDC material!

Kimi drove like a number 2 whom he was born to be! :p


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#39 klover

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:22

Originally posted by robnyc
I wanna here Kimi's excuse today, or not Kimi;s but his fans..


No excuse - Kimi blew the start and paid for it. Totally his fault. Why are you resorting to cheap shots like this?

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#40 Johny Bravo

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:22

Alonso who?

#41 Cheap Wine Alesi

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:22

Originally posted by Choda-Boy
KR wasn't nowhere near close to winning. Bad qualifying, bad start, indifferent race, no attacks, totally owned by FM, phew :down:
Only bright spot was that he performed better than FA today.


Hey again Hrvoje, hows life?

Kimi had traffic in qualifying and more fuel than FM :up:
Start was bad indeed, probably due to the big amount of fuel. Restart was embarrasingly bad, obviously.
Ferrari is very aero-sensitive and not good for overtaking other cars.
Pacewise he was equal to Massa throughout the race :up:
Massa was overall the better man.

#42 clampett

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:22

Anyone had an idea what happened to Fisichella in the middle stint? He really lacked pace and the car looked very unbalanced. On merit, this would be enough for 10th and 11th from Renault. :down:

#43 Choda-Boy

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:22

Originally posted by Cheap Wine Alesi


Massa wasnt faster than Kimi on pure pace. Hamilton on pure pace was easily faster than Alonso :up:

FM finished 10 secs ahead of KR and posted fastest lap :up: :up: :up:

#44 robnyc

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:22

Originally posted by slapstick


Please you tell the excuses for FA first.


Dude I don;t have to, I am not his fan, I only admire him because he is great champion.

#45 RDM

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:22

Originally posted by robnyc
I wanna here Kimi's excuse today, or not Kimi;s but his fans..

Excuses? For what? Oh, the restart - yeah, was a bit asleep, but still did enough to beat Alonso, and that was main thing.

#46 MortenF1

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:22

Spunout - Imola? :)

#47 slapstick

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:22

Originally posted by Cheap Wine Alesi


Hey again Hrvoje, hows life?

Kimi had traffic in qualifying and more fuel than FM :up:
Start was bad indeed, probably due to the big amount of fuel. Restart was embarrasingly bad, obviously.
Ferrari is very aero-sensitive and not good for overtaking other cars.
Pacewise he was equal to Massa throughout the race :up:
Massa was overall the better man.


Very sensible analysis. :up:

#48 Fortymark

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:23

Great victory by Massa :up:
Hamilton continues his impressive form, beating his teammate fair and square.
Kimi was weak, got overtaken in the start and never got up to real pace.

Massa and Hamilton :up:
Kimi and Alonso : :down:

Nicks pass on Fernando was great and Heidfelds performance :up: :up: :up:

Man, kimi looked so pissed on the podium. He didn´t want to spray or even look/congratulate Massa

#49 klover

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:23

Originally posted by robnyc
Kimi looks pissed.


If Kimi's pissed, I wonder how Alonso feels?

#50 Choda-Boy

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 13:23

Originally posted by slapstick


Very sensible analysis. :up:

For you and CWA, yes...only for you two :rotfl: