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[Buttoneer]

I heard on the news this morning that the Spanish national anthem had no words. Even if he wanted to, Alonso could not sing along proudly, wiping a small tear from his eye as he listens to the brass band (or rather the more usual dodgy recording) playing his country's theme tune.

I then also remembered the outcry which grew up and eventually stopped Schumie 'conducting' his mechanics through the Italian National anthem.

Finally there's the Austria 2002 podium debacle which was frowned upon by the FIA.

There's obviously a lot of rules covering what can and cannot be done on the podium, but I don't remember seeing any driver in recent years singing along when his national anthem is played.

Has anyone sung along?

[Atreiu]

I don't know, but I think we need more models in white t-shirts up there when they spray champagne. Briatore would agree with me, it ought to spicen up the show.

[RDM]

Originally posted by Buttoneer
I heard on the news this morning that the Spanish national anthem had no words. Even if he wanted to, Alonso could not sing along proudly, wiping a small tear from his eye as he listens to the brass band (or rather the more usual dodgy recording) playing his country's theme tune.

I then also remembered the outcry which grew up and eventually stopped Schumie 'conducting' his mechanics through the Italian National anthem.

Finally there's the Austria 2002 podium debacle which was frowned upon by the FIA.

There's obviously a lot of rules covering what can and cannot be done on the podium, but I don't remember seeing any driver in recent years singing along when his national anthem is played.

Has anyone sung along?

I wish our (UK) one didn't.

Being asked to sing about "God" (who I don't believe in and find a laughably silly and childish concept) saving the "Queen" (monarchy being a concept I don't agree with and find an embarrassing anachronism in the 21st Century...inherited employment skills just don't always work) is so ****ing ridiculous as to warrant ditching the whole thing and starting again. I'd say just get rid of the lyrics but the tune is so turgid there seems nothing whatsoever worth salvaging.

Tunefully requesting one thing that doesn't exist to save one thing that shouldn't exist seems like as greater waste of time as one could possibly imagine.

I suggest if Lewis does win, during the British national anthem he slowly turns round, bares his arse, and slaps his arse-cheeks to the song's percussion, thereby providing some entertainment for us all, (and possibly proving Smirnoff Ice with orgasm-inspiring material ).

[Buttoneer]

It might also give lattitude some more material to work with.

[Fatgadget]

Originally posted by Atreiu
I don't know, but I think we need more models in white t-shirts up there when they spray champagne. Briatore would agree with me, it ought to spicen up the show.

Yep! Nubile cheerleaders in skimpy outfits jigling their pom poms I say!

[V8 Fireworks]

For some reason Australian's chose 'Advance Australia Fair' rather than 'Waltzing Matilda' as their anthem. Both are far too western to pay respects to the true founders of Australia. And the second is the better lyric that despite being by a famous poet, had some of it's best lines written by the marketing department at a tea company who modified and printed the well known version on the back of their tins.

We have to leave the extraction of the AUS.mp3 file from the hard drives of the world race centres to Bayliss, Stoner and co in the motorcycles realm for now and a very long time it seems though .....

[Buttoneer]

The way Webbers career has been going, it's unlikely that we'll get to see him sing/not sing on the top step of the podium for the foreseeable future.

[RDM]

Found the story on the Beeb website: http://news.bbc.co.u...ope/6721909.stm

[Tenmantaylor]

Originally posted by RDM

I wish our (UK) one didn't.

Being asked to sing about "God" (who I don't believe in and find a laughably silly and childish concept) saving the "Queen" (monarchy being a concept I don't agree with and find an embarrassing anachronism in the 21st Century...inherited employment skills just don't always work) is so ****ing ridiculous as to warrant ditching the whole thing and starting again. I'd say just get rid of the lyrics but the tune is so turgid there seems nothing whatsoever worth salvaging.

Tunefully requesting one thing that doesn't exist to save one thing that shouldn't exist seems like as greater waste of time as one could possibly imagine.

I suggest if Lewis does win, during the British national anthem he slowly turns round, bares his arse, and slaps his arse-cheeks to the song's percussion, thereby providing some entertainment for us all, (and possibly proving Smirnoff Ice with orgasm-inspiring material ).

I hope you voted Labour in 97 and are now "Royally" disappointed ;)

[Buttoneer]

Originally posted by RDM
Found the story on the Beeb website: http://news.bbc.co.u...ope/6721909.stm

That's the one. I had absolutely no idea this was the case.

Poor Ferdy.

As for ditching the UK national anthem, I believe Billy Connolly suggested the theme tune from The Archers as a possible alternative. Certainly wouldn't be dirge-tastic then.

[RDM]

Originally posted by Tenmantaylor


I hope you voted Labour in 97 and are now "Royally" disappointed ;)

For various reasons I was not registered at an address (although I was a fully paid up tenant at an address - I wasn't homeless...and meant I paid no council tax for several years o/ ) at the time, so I didn't vote. However, AFAIK, neither "New" Labour or the Tory manifestos included plans to abolish the monarchy, or class a belief in god as "officially stupid". (I wouldn't want to ban peoples' right to believe in god any more than I would want to ban their right to believe Tazio Nuvolari will win the 2008 WDC).

However, New Labour did start off on a thing about getting rid of Hereditary peers, which is a step in the right direction to getting rid of monarchy, but it would still mean a very long way to go.

And Tony believes in god....and he also believed in weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Perhaps he can invade the deepness of space when he finds that too is is also empty of what he claims to be there?

[lattitude]

Originally posted by Buttoneer
I heard on the news this morning that the Spanish national anthem had no words. Even if he wanted to, Alonso could not sing along proudly, wiping a small tear from his eye as he listens to the brass band (or rather the more usual dodgy recording) playing his country's theme tune.

I am sure Alonso would had loved to sing when he wins,...but this is something that he can't conquer,...that is sing his national anthem

Alonso's life would be incomplete...because he can't sing in his own national anthem

[Muddie]

Whats wrong with 'tum te tum te tum'? Works for me - and its multipurpose!

[Peri_Piket]

Originally posted by Buttoneer
I heard on the news this morning that the Spanish national anthem had no words. Even if he wanted to, Alonso could not sing along proudly, wiping a small tear from his eye as he listens to the brass band (or rather the more usual dodgy recording) playing his country's theme tune.

There are words, but it's not official.
Anyway he can sing Real Madrif FC athem, but it doesn't have words either, does it?
Or any of his wife's band songs.

[tidytracks]

Last one I can recall was Luca Filippi winning in Bahrain in GP2.

He sung his lungs off, bless him. It was awesome.

[Lifew12]

Originally posted by RDM

"Queen" (monarchy being a concept I don't agree with and find an embarrassing anachronism in the 21st Century...

You prefer the alternative? Let's see - a republic under Gordon Brown or.....no, no, please, long live the queen.....

[schead]

Originally posted by RDM
Found the story on the Beeb website: http://news.bbc.co.u...ope/6721909.stm

Apparently, in their quest for lyrics, the following is currently the number 1 voted choice of words.

I've paid my dues -
Time after time -
I've done my sentence
But committed no crime -
And bad mistakes
I've made a few
I've had my share of sand kicked in my face -
But I've come through

We are the champions - my friends
And we'll keep on fighting - till the end -
We are the champions -
We are the champions
No time for losers
'Cause we are the champions - of the world -

I've taken my bows
And my curtain calls -
You brought me fame and fortuen and everything that goes with it
-
I thank you all -

But it's been no bed of roses
No pleasure cruise -
I consider it a challenge before the whole human race -
And I ain't gonna lose -

We are the champions - my friends
And we'll keep on fighting - till the end -
We are the champions -
We are the champions
No time for losers
'Cause we are the champions - of the world -

[schead]

Originally posted by Lifew12


You prefer the alternative? Let's see - a republic under Gordon Brown or.....no, no, please, long live the queen.....

Anarchy in the UK.

Vote NOTA

[4Wheeldrift]

For those that are interested, here are the regulations concerning the podium ceremony.

I believe that all the drivers must "dress to the right"

from FIA Sporting Regulations - sorry about the formatting


PODIUM CEREMONY
1. MASTER OF CEREMONIES
A master of ceremonies will be appointed by the FIA to conduct the entire podium ceremony.
2. PODIUM
a) ROSTRUM AND DAIS
The dimensions of the dais must follow those found in the FIA graphic design manual.
The distance between the edge of the winner's dais and the retaining barrier of the podium should
be a minimum of 120cm to provide a walkway.
The place where each person presenting a trophy should stand must be marked on the floor of the
podium.
Trophies must be laid out on a single table on one side of the podium. The champagne must be on
the dais.
b) FLAGS
Olympic Games style "flat flags" should be used. There must be a minimum space of 50cm behind
the podium structure for the flag men.
c) FLOOR
The podium and steps should be covered in green or dark blue carpet.
3. ANTHEMS
a) The national anthem of the winning driver and winning team will be played. The Nationalities of the
teams and drivers will be notified to the organiser by the FIA and will accord with Article 112 of the
Code.
b) A suitable sound system should be installed to ensure that national anthems, (initiated by the
master of ceremonies) are clearly heard with an audio link to the TV broadcast.
c) When the champagne shower begins, music should be played. This should not start until the
presenters have left the podium.
d) A commentary of the podium ceremony should be broadcast to the general public from the
platform erected for the TV cameras.
4. TROPHIES
Only 4 trophies will be presented during the podium ceremony:
a) winning driver
b) a representative of the winning constructor
c) second driver
d) third driver.
2008 F1 Sporting Regulations 34 of 41 28th March 2007
The trophies, which must be in the form of traditional cups, will be provided by the ASN and must show:
a) the FIA Formula 1 World Championship official logo
b) the official name of the event
c) the driver's position.
The height of the trophies shall be:
a) winner's and constructor's trophies - no less than 50cm
and no more than 65cm high
b) second and third drivers' trophies - no less than 35cm
and no more than 45cm high
The maximum weight per trophy must not exceed 5 kilos. Trophies must be of a design that is capable of
being handled and transported without damage.
5. SCENARIO (See attached designs)
a) Only three persons should be on the podium to present the trophies. In exceptional circumstances,
the master of ceremonies may increase this to four.
b) No police, bodyguards or persons not authorised by the master of ceremonies are allowed on the
podium.
c) The master of ceremonies will inform the TV and public address commentator of the names of the
persons presenting the trophies.
d) The master of ceremonies must be on the side of the podium where the trophies are located. The
persons presenting the trophies will be on the other side. The master of ceremonies will hand the
trophies to those presenting them.
6. TELEVISION
The ideal position for the TV camera is immediately opposite the podium and at the same height. Under no
circumstances must there be a TV camera man on the podium.
7. PARC FERME
The parc fermé must be positioned as close as possible to the podium, preferably immediately below, with
direct access.
As soon as all the cars have crossed the Line, a course car must go round the track to collect any driver
who has finished in the first three but is stranded on the circuit.
The drivers must not be delayed in the parc fermé. One person, nominated by the master of ceremonies
and in radio contact with him, will be responsible for moving the drivers from the parc fermé to the podium
without delay. Only persons authorised by the master of ceremonies may make contact with the drivers
before the end of the TV unilateral interviews.
8. UNILATERAL ROOM
The unilateral room must be adjacent to the podium. The master of ceremonies will see that the drivers
proceed there immediately after the podium ceremony. The room should be suitably ventilated (or air
conditioned if the temperature is above 25°C).
9. PRESS ROOM
Immediately after the TV interviews, drivers must go to the press room for interviews.
2008 F1 Sporting Regulations 35 of 41 28th March 2007
10. WATER + TOWELS
3 bottles of water must be put in the parc fermé (no identification)
3 bottles of water must be put in the unilateral room (no identification)
3 towels must be available in the unilateral room
No other drinks are permitted in the parc fermé or unilateral room.
11. PODIUM PROTOCOL (except for Monaco)
The winning driver's award will be presented by the head of state or the prime minister of the host country
or the FIA President. If such a person is not available, a comparable person within the host country, or a
dignitary of international status should be invited. Should neither of these be available, the President of the
ASN will be invited to present the winner's trophy.
The constructor's award must be presented by the official representative of the naming rights sponsor of
the Event. In the absence of a naming rights sponsor, the master of ceremonies will select a suitable
person.
The second and third drivers' awards must be presented by the President of the ASN, unless local
circumstances require an additional dignitary to be present. In this case, the latter will present the second
award and the ASN president the third. Should the ASN president be unavailable or presenting the
winning driver's trophy, the master of ceremonies will select a suitable replacement.
An invitation will be issued to each person attending the podium ceremony, with clear instructions as to the
procedure to follow.

[Lada Lover]

The Canadian National Anthem is doubly stupid. I don't even know the words to the English version. Lucky for me it's not on the F1 play-list.

[RDM]

Originally posted by Buttoneer


That's the one. I had absolutely no idea this was the case.

Poor Ferdy.

As for ditching the UK national anthem, I believe Billy Connolly suggested the theme tune from The Archers as a possible alternative. Certainly wouldn't be dirge-tastic then.

Would we be talking about the week-day Archers theme tune, or the weekend omnibus one, which is a bit different?

[Peri_Piket]

Originally posted by Lada Lover
The Canadian National Anthem is doubly stupid. I don't even know the words to the English version. Lucky for me it's not on the F1 play-list.

The South Park cartoon loooves the Canadian Athem: Ohhhh Canada...
There was an episode with Terrance and Phillip picking on Canadians and the Athem... very funny.

[daallo1]

Originally posted by Buttoneer
I heard on the news this morning that the Spanish national anthem had no words. Even if he wanted to, Alonso could not sing along proudly, wiping a small tear from his eye as he listens to the brass band (or rather the more usual dodgy recording) playing his country's theme tune.

I then also remembered the outcry which grew up and eventually stopped Schumie 'conducting' his mechanics through the Italian National anthem.

Finally there's the Austria 2002 podium debacle which was frowned upon by the FIA.

There's obviously a lot of rules covering what can and cannot be done on the podium, but I don't remember seeing any driver in recent years singing along when his national anthem is played.

Has anyone sung along?

Felipe Massa has sung in at least 1 of his last 2 victories (I think both of them) but he has done it surely!

[schead]

Originally posted by daallo1


Felipe Massa has sung in at least 1 of his last 2 victories (I think both of them) but he has done it surely!

With Massa, don't you mean "he has done it, FOR SURE"

[Limits]

It is very rare that a lone individual sings along in the anthem, that is typically a team thing where they find comfort in the fact that they are all out of tune.

[ashnathan]

Well when Alan Jones won in (i think) Austria, they didn't evn have the Australian national anthem so they played happy birthday :S couls be mistaken on what grand prix it was though.

[Orin]

Originally posted by Lifew12


You prefer the alternative? Let's see - a republic under Gordon Brown or.....no, no, please, long live the queen.....

There's a strong case to be made for stuffing the queen when she dies. Just put her in a vaguely regal pose and add hinges to the top of the thighs so that she can still attend state banquets. The alternatives don't bear thinking about.

Edit: and yes, Massa has sung his anthem on at least one occasion and probably more. I can't remember anyone else doing so.

[RDM]

Originally posted by Lifew12


You prefer the alternative? Let's see - a republic under Gordon Brown or.....no, no, please, long live the queen.....

Granted...an anything of Gordon Brown is a scary prospect. And we have had "President Blair" for the last 10 years anyway; the Queen is just a publicly-funded horse-race watcher and banquet attendee.

And not all countries that are republics are such bad places, just because a certain shrub-like-named leader of a republic has given republics a bad name shouldn't be a reflection on them all.

The Queen seems, as a person, a perfectly reasonable and intelligent woman, but I don't think that alone merits continuing with this out-dated method of "leadership".

[tidytracks]

Originally posted by RDM

Granted...an anything of Gordon Brown is a scary prospect. And we have had "President Blair" for the last 10 years anyway; the Queen is just a publicly-funded horse-race watcher and banquet attendee.

And not all countries that are republics are such bad places, just because a certain shrub-like-named leader of a republic has given republics a bad name shouldn't be a reflection on them all.

The Queen seems, as a person, a perfectly reasonable and intelligent woman, but I don't think that alone merits continuing with this out-dated method of "leadership".

Come on, lets keep this on topic and leave all Republican / Monarchist chat for the Paddock Club.

Any suggestion that the modern monarchy in the United Kingdom has any kind of actual leadership powers denotes a severe lack of understanding of British Constitutional Law anyway... if we're going to get political on this.

[Buttoneer]

Originally posted by daallo1


Felipe Massa has sung in at least 1 of his last 2 victories (I think both of them) but he has done it surely!

Excellent, I hadn't noticed this, thank you. And thanks 4wheel for confirming that it isn't banned though it does seem to be an overly complicated arrangement.

Good on Massa, anyway. They should all give it a go. Except Ferdy, obviously...

[FrankB]

OT, But

Originally posted by 4Wheeldrift


...The trophies, which must be in the form of traditional cups, will be provided by the ASN and must show:
a) the FIA Formula 1 World Championship official logo
b) the official name of the event
c) the driver's position.
The height of the trophies shall be:
a) winner's and constructor's trophies - no less than 50cm
and no more than 65cm high
b) second and third drivers' trophies - no less than 35cm
and no more than 45cm high
The maximum weight per trophy must not exceed 5 kilos. Trophies must be of a design that is capable of
being handled and transported without damage....

http://newsimg.bbc.c...sstrophy416.jpg

Is the trophy for the Australian GP "in the form of a traditional cup" and "no less than 50cm high"?

[Andy Donovan]

Originally posted by Buttoneer
They should all give it a go. Except Ferdy, obviously...

He could always sing 'do do-do do-doo' if he wants.

[FrankB]

Originally posted by Andy Donovan
He could always sing 'do do-do do-doo' if he wants.

Is that "Singing in the Rain"?

[Buttoneer]

I thought it was the Pink Panther theme.

[Rich]

Originally posted by Andy Donovan
He could always sing 'do do-do do-doo' if he wants.

Well, if he's going to rip off The Police, I'd rather he did I Can't Stand Losing (You). At least that would be in character.

[Andy Donovan]

Originally posted by Rich
Well, if he's going to rip off The Police, I'd rather he did I Can't Stand Losing (You). At least that would be in character.

"That was the Police, or as they're now known, Sting"

[nigel red5]

The last person i can remember seeing singing their national anthem in F1 was Eddie Jordan, who belted out the Irish anthem proudly in Magny-Cours in '99. His pride was such that he was welling up at the end of it. Fair play to him!

As an aside, i was watching the Estonia - England Euro 2008 qualifying game last night.
Was it just me, or did any of you also end up humming along to the Finnish national anthem?

[4Wheeldrift]

Originally posted by FrankB
OT, But



http://newsimg.bbc.c...sstrophy416.jpg

Is the trophy for the Australian GP "in the form of a traditional cup" and "no less than 50cm high"?

I have wondered about a few of the trophies. I think what it is trying to say is "No silver Qantas Jumbos or 3ft long silver Marlboro cigarettes please" !

[ExxonValdez]

Originally posted by Buttoneer
I heard on the news this morning that the Spanish national anthem had no words. Even if he wanted to, Alonso could not sing along proudly, wiping a small tear from his eye as he listens to the brass band (or rather the more usual dodgy recording) playing his country's theme tune.

I then also remembered the outcry which grew up and eventually stopped Schumie 'conducting' his mechanics through the Italian National anthem.

Finally there's the Austria 2002 podium debacle which was frowned upon by the FIA.

There's obviously a lot of rules covering what can and cannot be done on the podium, but I don't remember seeing any driver in recent years singing along when his national anthem is played.

Has anyone sung along?

Actually, from Franco's times (1936-1975), this was the lyrics of the Spanish Anthem:

¡ VIVA ESPAÑA !
Alzad los brazos, hijos
del pueblo español,
que vuelve a resurgir.
Gloria a la Patria que supo seguir,
sobre el azul del mar el caminar del sol.


¡ TRIUNFA ESPAÑA !
Los yunques y las ruedas
cantan al compás
del himno de la fe.

Juntos con ellos cantemos de pie
la vida nueva y fuerte de trabajo y paz.


But nobody wants to sing that because it reminds Franco.

It's good this way. Alonso is a really bad singer. He tried to sing the Asturias National Anthem last year and it was pathetic.

He sings better "We are the champions" by Queen.

For the British fans, I would suggest that you sing "God save the Queen" if Hamilton wins...

But "God save the Queen" by the SEX PISTOLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[douglasross]

Originally posted by nigel red5
The last person i can remember seeing singing their national anthem in F1 was Eddie Jordan, who belted out the Irish anthem proudly in Magny-Cours in '99. His pride was such that he was welling up at the end of it. Fair play to him!

As an aside, i was watching the Estonia - England Euro 2008 qualifying game last night.
Was it just me, or did any of you also end up humming along to the Finnish national anthem?

just as a pointr of correction EJ was not able to sing the Irish national anthem, The Soldiers Song, as the organisers did not have it The anthem that was played was in fact the UK anthemas Jordan were based at Silverstone

[tidytracks]

Originally posted by douglasross


just as a pointr of correction EJ was not able to sing the Irish national anthem, The Soldiers Song, as the organisers did not have it The anthem that was played was in fact the UK anthemas Jordan were based at Silverstone

Double point of correction, the team was entered and always raced on a British license, thus the British national anthem would have been played in any case.

I do seem to remember one time that Eddie Irvine was on the podium, I forget where, they raised the Ulster flag (or was it the Irish (ROI) flag?) instead of the Union Jack, and it kicked off big time. He even got death threats IIRC.

[nigel red5]

I would kindly ask you guys to look again.

France 1999 GP podium. German national anthem for Frentzen, followed by the Irish national anthem.....which Jordan was singing as loudly as he could. The flag that was displayed was never my point, the anthem was.

[douglasross]

Originally posted by douglasross


just as a pointr of correction EJ was not able to sing the Irish national anthem, The Soldiers Song, as the organisers did not have it The anthem that was played was in fact the UK anthemas Jordan were based at Silverstone

sorry i made a mistake as it was 1998 when hill won at spa that they played the British anthem asthey did not have the Irish anthem avaiilable. Re the flag for Eddie irvine they raised the irish flag when he won and as a fellow Ulstrerman to Irv the swerve it shoud have been the Union flag of the UK

[Andy Donovan]

Originally posted by tidytracks
I do seem to remember one time that Eddie Irvine was on the podium, I forget where, they raised the Ulster flag (or was it the Irish (ROI) flag?) instead of the Union Jack, and it kicked off big time. He even got death threats IIRC.

I think at the time there was talk of all sorts of ideas to avoid N.I.-related controversy, such as alternating Irish and UK flags each time he was on the podium or even using a plain white flag.

[tidytracks]

My apologies. I was always under the impression Jordan raced on a GB license.