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[F1Fanatic.co.uk]

A fair bit of overtaking and a decent battle for the lead. Rate that race!

[grg]

awsome race

even though i think that the mclarens must have been racing till the end

[Tuxy]

Unless your McLaren or Hamilton fan, boring race. Couple of nice passes but not nearly enough given the straightaway. ****in rev limiters...

[slapstick]

Boring like usual. Racing in F1 is destroyed for now.

[AFCA]

Originally posted by slapstick
Boring like usual.

Well you certainly can't say it was exciting...sigh...

[wingwalker]

Originally posted by slapstick
Boring like usual. Racing in F1 is destroyed for now.

what? it was easily the best "normal" (montreal is in the league of its own) race so far.


edit: by "so far" i meant "this season", obviously. duh.

[Apex]

Boooooooring!!!

[slapstick]

Originally posted by wingwalker

what? it was easily the best "normal" (montreal is in the league of its own) race so far.

Well if you started watching F1 before this season "boring" is a good description.

[slapstick]

Originally posted by AFCA


Well you certainly can't say it was exciting...sigh...

It wasn't so why should I say it was? To please you oh master? :yawn:

[imaginesix]

The race had 2 good moments; Hamilton's defense of the lead against Hamilton and Button's defense of 16th place against Fisi. (Props to the program editor who didn't just show the leaders).

Other than that, the top 4 finished according to their championship standings, the top 8 qualifiers all finished in the top 8 except for Vettel [EDIT: Sorry, I meant Webber] who benefited from Heidfeld's mechanical failure. So all in all nothing really happened so I voted 'boring'.

[vaavu]

Originally posted by wingwalker
it was easily the best "normal" (montreal is in the league of its own) race so far.

I definitely agree! Although it was a bit tedious that top 4 from the pole finished in that order... But otherwise, we saw passes and racing on the track!

[wingwalker]

Originally posted by vaavu


I definitely agree! Although it was a bit tedious that top 4 from the pole finished in that order... But otherwise, we saw passes and racing on the track!

but even in the top four, there were some good moments.

[JRUK]

I would give it a 7, it was very boring at the front apart from a few seconds where Alonso was challenging Hamilton and some points in the last 10 laps or so where Raikkonen was right behind Massa but there were some great battles going on further down the field like the big line of cars who got stuck behind Liuzzi (i think), Trulli/Webber towards the end, Fisichella moving through the field and a couple of others

[imaginesix]

Originally posted by wingwalker
but even in the top four, there were some good moments.

"Moments" plural? What was the other moment?

[SpamJet]

I thinks it quite exciting when a driver starts catching another driver by a huge chunk of time and then its really annoying when a cushion of invisible air stops the build up dead in its tracks.

[Go_Scotty_Go!]

Originally posted by slapstick
Boring like usual. Racing in F1 is destroyed for now.

I don't know how any so called racing fan could watch the midfield of that race and see boring...

I really don't.

[Wouter]

Originally posted by Go_Scotty_Go!


I don't know how any so called racing fan could watch the midfield of that race and see boring...

I really don't.

Seconded. This was by far the best race of the season (leaving SC's out of it). There was load of passing in the midfield, a Spyker running around in said midfield for a while, the comeback from Fisichella, a battle for the lead during most of the GP and 2 duels between 2 sets of teammates - at the topteams. In addition, a great fight for the lesser points and the first point at the first race for a 19 year old. And all that without artificial safety cars or major incidents, outside the first corner. It was a fantastic race

If this is boring to you, you probably shouldn't watch F1 as it is because I don't think we're gonna have much races this season who are going to be better or even as good. Would require SC **** or rain, I think.

[Wouter]

Originally posted by imaginesix
"Moments" plural? What was the other moment?

Well, in the top 4 we had the start, the first lap with an aggressive Alonso, the attempted pass from Alonso mid-race and a tense second stop for both McLarens. There was also the mistake from Heidfeld, top-4 at the time. In addition, we had Raikkonen who succeeded in passing Heidfeld on track (in this way reaching the top-4) and it was exciting for a while when he was chasing Massa. A pity he could not make an attack in the end, but it was plenty for modern F1.

[scheivlak]

Originally posted by Go_Scotty_Go!


I don't know how any so called racing fan could watch the midfield of that race and see boring...

I really don't.

I can only say: there's so much to enjoy that you're missing....
I really pity the people that call a race like this "boring".

[wingwalker]

Originally posted by imaginesix
"Moments" plural? What was the other moment?

kimi racing with massa for good 3 laps.

[emburmak]

Originally posted by Wouter

It was a fantastic race

If this is boring to you, you probably shouldn't watch F1 as it is because I don't think we're gonna have much races this season who are going to be better or even as good. Would require SC **** or rain, I think.

Totally agree!! I cannot understand some fans. A race this interesting with plenty of overtakes; Alonso's attack, LH's resistance, KR's charge, Massa's defence and then loads of other action in the midfield is called boring. Unbelievable. Perhaps those disgruntled fans are watching the wrong sport.

[Leyser]

It was a good race, I don't know why some people are still unhappy (well I know why slapstick is unhappy, but fanboy bias is not something relevant).

[Atreiu]

It was a much better race that most of them so far this year. It wasn't as dramatic as the Canadian GP, but was even more exciting because we had a real fight for the win.


I give it an 8.

Overtaking is far too dificult. Had this been a few years back when overtaking wasn't as impossible, we would have been treated with a modern classic, a battle of strategies and speed, racecraft and driving.

[Buttoneer]

Pretty good range of action all the way down the field, including a great attack on first place by Alonso. If anyone was under any illusion that the McLaren drivers are not allowed to race, I'm sure this will help to convince them. I voted 7.

[HSOF]

I rated it as good (7).
Not perfect but clearly the best race of the season with some good overtaking and exaitment on the track espesially Fisi way throu the field

But offcourse the rev limiters destroy alotof the fun we shuld have

[brunopascal]

Good race (7)

We had some racing and overtaking, and there was battle for the lead as well.

After the first pitstop when Räikkönen got up to speed and passed Heidfeld, I thought we might be in for some charge, but unfortunately it ended behind Rosberg until he pitted and then it was too late really.

[imaginesix]

Originally posted by Wouter
Well, in the top 4 we had the start, the first lap with an aggressive Alonso, the attempted pass from Alonso mid-race and a tense second stop for both McLarens. There was also the mistake from Heidfeld, top-4 at the time. In addition, we had Raikkonen who succeeded in passing Heidfeld on track (in this way reaching the top-4) and it was exciting for a while when he was chasing Massa. A pity he could not make an attack in the end, but it was plenty for modern F1.

It seems then, due to overwhelmingly positive reviews of the race and recounting of details that I don't remember, I have to conclude that I just wasn't paying attention to the race today.

[gerry nassar]

Originally posted by Wouter

Seconded. This was by far the best race of the season (leaving SC's out of it). There was load of passing in the midfield, a Spyker running around in said midfield for a while, the comeback from Fisichella, a battle for the lead during most of the GP and 2 duels between 2 sets of teammates - at the topteams. In addition, a great fight for the lesser points and the first point at the first race for a 19 year old. And all that without artificial safety cars or major incidents, outside the first corner. It was a fantastic race

If this is boring to you, you probably shouldn't watch F1 as it is because I don't think we're gonna have much races this season who are going to be better or even as good. Would require SC **** or rain, I think.

I totally agree. It was entertaining especially by the standard set by 2007 races (bar Canada) so far. Was Alonso going to get Lewis? Was Kimi going to pass Massa? It was exciting. Some action in the midfield and even in the infield section. So good enough for me.

Dont hold your breath about the next three races though - we could be in for another lull :yawn:

[Bruce]

Originally posted by gerry nassar


I totally agree. It was entertaining especially by the standard set by 2007 races (bar Canada) so far. Was Alonso going to get Lewis? Was Kimi going to pass Massa? It was exciting.

I don't know - I assumed (rightly, as events unfolded) that there would be no passing between team-mates, so the only possibility of a Kimi or Alonso pass was going to be acheived through a pitstop, or a mistake on the track by the car ahead. So, I didn't find it exciting, knowing that the order was pretty much set.

Originally posted by gerry nassar

Dont hold your breath about the next three races though - we could be in for another lull :yawn:

Absolutely right! Especially Magny Cours - that one seems to throw up a snooze fest every year...

Finally, I should qualify my statement by saying that I missed the first 20 laps, as I'm in Canada and had assumed that as it wasn't being shown on TSN, that I would just have to wait until midnight ot watch it - then I checked the forum and saw that Fox was carrying it... so I"ll get to see the first bit in an hour or so. So - having missed the most exciting part of the race (the start) I may revise my opinion...

[Go_Scotty_Go!]

Originally posted by emburmak
Totally agree!! I cannot understand some fans. A race this interesting with plenty of overtakes; Alonso's attack, LH's resistance, KR's charge, Massa's defence and then loads of other action in the midfield is called boring. Unbelievable. Perhaps those disgruntled fans are watching the wrong sport.

Sometimes I think I watched a different race once I come online to read other peoples views...there is a lot of unwarranted contempt for F1 these days in my opinion, like a fashion trend or something - and I don't really understand it. I think it comes mostly from the press and from BBs and other opinion forums like magazines and such.

My fiance and I really enjoyed the race, I was very impressed by Liuzzi, especially the battle with Wurz which was thrilling.

The coverage was excellent the camera work was always on the action on track. The Alonso attempt on Lewis was the climax of the race - the entire thing built to that moment.

I just don't get F1 fans anymore I guess. These last two races were brilliant.

[tidwell]

Loved it. Best race of the year, to me.

[gerry nassar]

Originally posted by Bruce


I don't know - I assumed (rightly, as events unfolded) that there would be no passing between team-mates, so the only possibility of a Kimi or Alonso pass was going to be acheived through a pitstop, or a mistake on the track by the car ahead. So, I didn't find it exciting, knowing that the order was pretty much set.

I did think they had a chance to pass each other - if say Hamilton or Massa made a mistake. But it wasnt too be. I guess with battles fought between teammates - you never do know if they are truly racing or not. But to me anyway - it looks like both teams had a go.

Originally posted by Bruce

Absolutely right! Especially Magny Cours - that one seems to throw up a snooze fest every year...

Finally, I should qualify my statement by saying that I missed the first 20 laps, as I'm in Canada and had assumed that as it wasn't being shown on TSN, that I would just have to wait until midnight ot watch it - then I checked the forum and saw that Fox was carrying it... so I"ll get to see the first bit in an hour or so. So - having missed the most exciting part of the race (the start) I may revise my opinion...

We need rain!!!;) France 1999 was good and 2000 (not wet) was also entertaining but since then even the Adelaide hairpin struggles to see one overtaking move. I'd expect this year to be even worse.

[SeanValen]

Originally posted by gerry nassar




We need rain!!!;) France 1999 was good and 2000 (not wet) was also entertaining but since then even the Adelaide hairpin struggles to see one overtaking move. I'd expect this year to be even worse.

Rain has become a fairytale for Sunday races, and Hamilton needs to proof he's the next rainmaster after Senna and Schumacher

Everyone needs rain when the aero is effecting following cars, breaking in the wet is a art.

[gerry nassar]

Originally posted by SeanValen






Rain has become a fairytale for Sunday races, and Hamilton needs to proof he's the next rainmaster after Senna and Schumacher

Everyone needs rain when the aero is effecting following cars, breaking in the wet is a art.

Its true - cuts out alot of the aero problem and allows for overtaking! Long overdue!!

[AFCA]

Originally posted by slapstick


It wasn't so why should I say it was? To please you oh master? :yawn:

Sorry, that wasn't meant at you. I actually agreed (by giving the rhetorical question you gave the answer to), and the sigh was for the state F1 is in nowadays....

[fnz]

Originally posted by slapstick
Boring like usual. Racing in F1 is destroyed for now.

Because your heros didn't get p1 and p2?

[Deeq]

He he This IS a day of days, for once - no exaggeration - a Mclaren silverwash gets an 8 from me... This race was that good.

Of course I am biased, for it might have got a cool 10 rating if Ferrari had won the race and 9 if anyone else - that is non McFia team - had.

[MattFoster]

6 - Not bad

[bringbackthe80's]

It was ok, some good stuff but they could easily have given out the points straight after qualifying and then had a race comprising the rest of the field! I reckon that would have produced a better race. Lets face the facts that the top 4 fished where they qualified, and of the final four points finishers only Webber dragged himself up into the points after qualifiying outside the top 8.

So, as a race it was ok and I especially liked the way Button resisted Fisi in what was a losing battle really for him. Who says he can't race? Also blows my theory that I posted a week or so ago about Button using his intelligence and never fighting a lost cause!

[Mauseri]

Much better than the Canadian race a week ago!

[Gareth]

Good to see the top two teams each have 2 drivers who are similar to each other, so we got to see a couple of good battles at the front. Much more exciting than the MS v Barrichello/Massa and Alonso v Fisi years, where it was always a cakewalk for the top dog.

Some fun stuff from Fisi carving back up through the field, a couple of good moves round the outside.

A few other overtaking incidents down into the first corner.

Overall, a very good race I thought.

[Orin]

Originally posted by Wouter

Seconded. This was by far the best race of the season (leaving SC's out of it). There was load of passing in the midfield, a Spyker running around in said midfield for a while, the comeback from Fisichella, a battle for the lead during most of the GP and 2 duels between 2 sets of teammates - at the topteams. In addition, a great fight for the lesser points and the first point at the first race for a 19 year old. And all that without artificial safety cars or major incidents, outside the first corner. It was a fantastic race

If this is boring to you, you probably shouldn't watch F1 as it is because I don't think we're gonna have much races this season who are going to be better or even as good. Would require SC **** or rain, I think.

I'll go along with that. Probably the best of the season so far: P1 and P2 separated by a hair's breadth all race; P3 and P4 fighting until the end; Fisi's fantastic charge back through the pack; Button fighting with a damaged front wing; the 4 car(?) fracas in the midfield. It was a race of constant pressure and overtaking in a season (Canada excepted) where overtaking has been largely absent.

No doubt normal service will resume in France and Britain.

[Orin]

Originally posted by Deeq
He he This IS a day of days, for once - no exaggeration - a Mclaren silverwash gets an 8 from me... This race was that good.

Of course I am biased, for it might have got a cool 10 rating if Ferrari had won the race and 9 if anyone else - that is non McFia team - had.

[Owen]

a bit dull sums it up. Mind you, Wurz did his best to keep us entertained!

[F575 GTC]

Originally posted by gerry nassar

We need rain!!!;) France 1999 was good and 2000 (not wet) was also entertaining but since then even the Adelaide hairpin struggles to see one overtaking move. I'd expect this year to be even worse.

They should have switched the US GP to France then! Le Mans was absolutly flooded for the last hour or so; massive downpour that lasted till the end of the race. It was so bad, the team's ordered the safety car to be brought out; more or less zero visiblity in some places on the track.

Race wise i'll admit i gave it a 5; i've never truly liked the track anyway so i'm not overly keen on the race anyway. Wasn't helped that Quick Nick didn't finish (and screwed up a couple of times...makes a change). Not the best race i've seen this year - and that's excluding Canada too. I can't say i'm expecting Mangy-Cours to be any better though.

[Wouter]

Originally posted by Bruce
I don't know - I assumed (rightly, as events unfolded) that there would be no passing between team-mates, so the only possibility of a Kimi or Alonso pass was going to be acheived through a pitstop, or a mistake on the track by the car ahead. So, I didn't find it exciting, knowing that the order was pretty much set.

You assumed wrongly, as Alonso did not get the memo and did a very serious attempt to pass anyway. Hamilton also didn't assume Alonso wouldn't try anything and blocked the pass, but that doesn't mean there was no attempt.

For that matter, Massa drove some very defensive lines in the infield at some laps. He wasn't too sure about Raikkonen no trying anything, either.

[Jodum5]

When I was voting I considered Canada the best race of the season. But that was due to plenty of safety car periods and DQs that opened the race for many drivers... INdy though definately was the most interesting 'pure' race.

I gave it an 8. IT wouldve gotten a 10 if Kimi and Alonso got past their teammates in the dying laps

[Zmeej]

IMO, we're edging up the scale.

I'll give this one a 7.8: a B+

Beginning with the most obvious, the top two spots were hotly contested from the start and it got positively torrid there for a while. Lewis faced down his first major pressure situation with flying colours.

I'm glad that Alonso was given a clear signal that if he wants to get by Hamilton, he'll have to do it no matter what the team's overall strategy is.

Raikonnen finally seemed to find himself inside that Ferrari and started scorching up the track in a most encouraging fashion. Massa made a few mistakes, so it kept things very interesting, but defended well when Kimi cruised right on up to him.

There's more to write about, but I'll do it later (mostly likely as an edit).

Suffice it to say: I'm pleased.