99 replies to this topic

[Bloggsworth]

Ouch! Rather him than me.

[president evil]

I'm glad he's okay but I cant deny I cheered when he went out.

[Dalton007]

Allen blamed him instantly

[djellison]

Originally posted by president evil
I cant deny I cheered when he went out.

Given the severity of the impact, and the obvious medical implications - that's a fairly sick vile thing to do.

Doug

[Bloggsworth]

Whereas Brundle spotted the pre-accident smoke.

President Evil - Shame on you!

[WACKO]

Ok, he's on oxygen but he's waving from the stretcher.

Btw: no such thread titles in potentially grave situations like this

[president evil]

Not really.. you see I cheered the moment I saw the car in the tyres obviously at that point I didn't know the implications .. I just thought he had run wide and speared on at the corner .. I'm sorry if I implied I'm glad if he's injured because I'm not.. okay ?

[airwise]

Originally posted by president evil
I'm glad he's okay but I cant deny I cheered when he went out.

****.

[Lazarus II]

Where is that thread about Americans only watching auto racing for the crashes?

Profile For president evil Administrative Options

Date Registered: 13-Apr-07
Status: Member
Total Posts: 49 Search for all posts by president evil
Posting Rate: 0.50 posts per day
Threads Started: 0 Find threads started by president evil
Last Post: Ouch! Where's the nearest Kwik Fit Tyre depot?
Posted on 21-Jul-07 08:09
Contact president evil: Click here to email president evil
Send president evil a Private Message!
Homepage:
ICQ Number:
AOL Instant Messenger Handle:
Yahoo Instant Messenger Handle:
Birthday June 22nd, 1972
Favourite Driver/Team Fernando Alonso / McLaren
Location Hampshire, England
Interests F1, boxing,online gaming,cooking
Occupation Inbetween jobs

[Ruf]

Sometimes we fail to realise that every accident in motorposrt can have extremely severe consequences. You are allowed to cheer when the car gets trapped in a gravel trap, I suppose, but when it hits the tyre wall cheering is less than the appropriate action.

[Enkei]

That was some heavy crash. Replay shows Lewis giving thumbs up. Is he ok?
Please keep us up to date here..

[wingwalker]

it's not gonna be up for long, FOM watchdogs are probably after vids of the crash already.

edit: replay showed him climbing out of the car, and he couldn't stand straight so a marshall helped him to sit down - obviusly some kind of leg injury.

update: according to ron dennis, lewis is fine, no broken bones or anything.



http://img265.images...82045010hz9.jpg

[Memory Loss]

I'm sick of the Hamilton hype - I was also pleased when I saw him in the wall...

We've become so used to the notion of safety and benign accidents in Formula One, it's an easy thing to do... It had nothing to do with any sort of desire to see cars crash. Stop being so judgmental.

[Mark A]

Ron is saying he has no injuries and they are keeping him in for a few hours observation.

Also said that the problem was a wheel gun failure so the wheel nut wasn't fully tight.

[SlateGray]

TSN says he is OK no injurys of note!!

[Wolf]

Hopefuly it hurt him a bit and he didn't want to put a full load on it in case it was injured. I hope the lad is OK.

Our commentators report Ron said nothing's broken.

[Ruf]

Can't say that I like hype much either especially hysterya. And altough the security of the drivers is now close to the one of an armoured tank, just couple months ago we've witnessed Kubica's horrific accident who reminded us that motorsport is still dangerous. We are allowed to be a bit judgmental.

[Enkei]

Phew that was scary! Wheelgun failure is what Ron Dennis told ITV according to our commentators (Dutch RTL GP) and McLaren were able to correct the problem on Alonso's car.

Hamilton will wake up a bit stiff tomorrow. Hopefully he will be able to defend his championship lead tomorrow from 10th place on the grid.

[Memory Loss]

Originally posted by Ruf
Can't say that I like hype much either especially hysterya. And altough the security of the drivers is now close to the one of an armoured tank, just couple months ago we've witnessed Kubica's horrific accident who reminded us that motorsport is still dangerous. We are allowed to be a bit judgmental.

The one in which he emerged almost completely unscathed?

[Ruf]

"almost completely" is a strange phrasing. But, as I said, the accidend was indeed very scary. Now, whall we go back to racing?

[Atreiu]

1 - Can they fit his engine in the spare car tomorrow?
2 - What about his fuel load?



I hope he's fit for the race. Having him out of the race can completely change the championship and it would't be too good.

[Deeq]

Anyway can this [pistol failure] have to with the hasty way they - Mechanics - replaced the wheels? Perhaps a bit too strong to phrase it, but both teams were taking too serious to a relatively unimportant factor [staying a head of the competiton at the moment] in the sesion.

OTOH McLaren were taking a careful look at FA car when[before the accident] they were replacing his tyres could they hade suspicions back then? If so why was not lewis called in?

[andysaint]

Unlucky for Lewis. I hope he is ok and fit to start tomorrow. If he does it will be his first major challenge of sorts. Coming off a big accident, getting back in coming from the midfield it will be a real test to see how high up he can get

[andysaint]

Unlucky for Lewis. Intital reaction was ooo who's in the wall then uh oh why isn't he getting out of that thing faster. Looking forward to see him race through the field if he's able to start tomorrow

[COUGAR508]

Great to hear that Lewis is basically OK. The neck brace, drip, stretcher etc are all standard precautions these days, so perhaps it was a bit less dramatic than it seemed.

I would expect Lewis to start the race tomorrow, provided he gets the all-clear from the medics. Even if he can't compete with the Ferraris and Alonso, he could score some valuable points.

[naiboz]

Firstly I hope Lewis is ok and is fit to race tomorrow.

but....

Did anyone else think the coverage was a bit OTT?

If you had tuned in after the accident you'd have thought someone had died

[Deeq]

Not trying to play high and mighty but...always that but

Anyway I really feel a litle bit guilty about not feeling too sorry - for - when a competitor from rival team goes out due to engine failure etc atleast not the way i do when a favorite does suffer the same. You really want to see them beat on track mano a mano...and feel there pain at the podium[naturaly the further away from the podium they are... the greater the feelings intensity ]
IF OTOH they make a dumb move/mistake hence out of the race and there is no serious harm involved i lol @them heartly

[Anomnader]

Originally posted by naiboz
Firstly I hope Lewis is ok and is fit to race tomorrow.

but....

Did anyone else think the coverage was a bit OTT?

If you had tuned in after the accident you'd have thought someone had died

not really with the ambulance being there, if he had got out and moved around yes, but not with him being laid on the ground so long.

[Paste]

Yet another great demonstration of why they use the HANS device. Had he not been wearing one, it would've been helmet into the steering wheel, no doubt. Glad to see Lewis is ok, and am hoping to see him charge to another podium from 10th tomorrow.

[Johnny Alpha]

Does anybody have Hamilton's sector times prior to his crash? I'm curious to know what sort of time Lewis was on course to do.

[Jacquesback]

Originally posted by Johnny Alpha
Does anybody have Hamilton's sector times prior to his crash? I'm curious to know what sort of time Lewis was on course to do.

He was about two tenths up on Massa.

[quasi C]

He did a 30.0 in s1 which was equivalent to Kimi's but Alonso did a 29.8.

[Hacklerf]

Originally posted by president evil
I'm glad he's okay but I cant deny I cheered when he went out.

Yes same here, as i thought it would bring my man back into the championship order alot faster, but then i realised he was hurt and was worried, as it is rare these days anyone gets hurt, i just expected him to jump out and sit on the other side of the barrier for the last 5 mins

[VresiBerba]

Can anyone here actually explain why the hell there's a curb on the outside of that turn? It's just so stupid in these days of F1-safety thinking I don't know what to say

[Hacklerf]

Originally posted by VresiBerba
Can anyone here actually explain why the hell there's a curb on the outside of that turn? It's just so stupid in these days of F1-safety thinking I don't know what to say

if he hit a curb going that speed he would most likely be pitched into the air 'ala kubica'

[canon1753]

I guess they will fix the corner of the car and make sure the car isn't bent. If he has to change cars can he start from 10th (I wouldn't think so) or the pitlane or back of the grid?

[Enkei]

Originally posted by Hacklerf



Yes same here, as i thought it would bring my man back into the championship order alot faster, but then i realised he was hurt and was worried, as it is rare these days anyone gets hurt, i just expected him to jump out and sit on the other side of the barrier for the last 5 mins

The first shot you saw was the car up in the barriers to to cockpit edge.
In this case Hamilton is my favorite driver, so I was shocked and a bit angry, but even if it were any other driver, I wouldn't cheer because you don't know if a driver is hurt or not. Furthermore, I would not want to win a championship by the misfortune of others...

[VresiBerba]

Originally posted by Hacklerf
if he hit a curb going that speed he would most likely be pitched into the air 'ala kubica'

Ehh, he DID hit the curb, and he DID go into the air. I was asking what that curb is doing there in the first place.

[Ruf]

I assume he'll start from 10th, unless the engine has to be replaced as well. (they can use the wrecked car's engine in the spare car). However, from strategy point of view they might decide to replace the engine anyway and start from the pitlane full gas tanks and what not. *shrugs*

[Mauseri]

Originally posted by Dalton007
Allen blamed him instantly

Finnish commentator said something that the pressure is building up

[noikeee]

Originally posted by VresiBerba

Ehh, he DID hit the curb, and he DID go into the air. I was asking what that curb is doing there in the first place.

I just watched the video and at the place where he went off I see nothing but a slight patch of grass before the sandtrap?

[Juan Kerr]

Ah I now know the real reason for the crash.....

"It would be wonderful for Lewis, McLaren and Britain if he won here and continued his staggering run of podiums"

Murray Walker

[Umbrella_Girl]

BBC reporting that he's been cleared to race pending sign-off from Gary Hartstein.

[sephiroth]

I remember this race in 99 when someone (god knows who it could have been!) broke his leg at silverstone and the british crowd cheered. Funny how all these people are playing high and mighty now. I am just glad that hamilton didn't injured otherwise the british media would be talking about how the championship was lost because of injury.

[JSF]

People at Silverstone cheered when Michael went off, that soon stopped when they saw he didnt get out of the car and could be injured.

It apears it's a natural reaction for some people to cheer when a rival has a problem and goes of, but that should and does stop straight away when it looks like a big impact with the posibility of injury. Only a prick would celebrate that.

[sephiroth]

And? Hamilton isn't hurt. We should be celebrating right?

[Umbrella_Girl]

Originally posted by sephiroth
the british crowd cheered......all these people are playing high and mighty now

And you know who cheered and what their reactions were today? I don't think so. I'd guess it was only a very small minority who you say cheered.

I didn't cheer when Schumi crashed. And I have absolutely no conscience whatsoever about being very, very happy indeed that Lewis is unhurt and apparently able to race tomorrow.

[JSF]

Originally posted by sephiroth
And? Hamilton isn't hurt. We should be celebrating right?

Celebrating he isnt hurt, certainly. Celebrating he will start as low as 10th for the race, if you dont back his championship aspirations then i am sure you will, it makes his taks more dificult. Me personally, i want to see Lewis win the championship, so i personally wont be celebrating anything other than the fact he is OK.

[Ruf]

Originally posted by JSF
People at Silverstone cheered when Michael went off, that soon stopped when they saw he didnt get out of the car and could be injured.

I wrote above. An "off" is one thing. An off that ends in a high speed inpact with the tyre walls is another thing. You don't really need more than two healthy brain cells capable of making a synapse to realise that the second scenario is not funny. You don't need to see if the guy gets out of the car or not. You don't even need to see if the car actually crashes; once you notice that he's "off" with too much speed you just shut down your cheerings and start praying.

[Jacquesback]

Originally posted by sephiroth
And? Hamilton isn't hurt. We should be celebrating right?

I hope you enjoy your celebration and you have many friends with which to celebrate.